China has lost Australia

Anyone wondering why the Liberal-National Federal Government did a U-turn on Australia’s relations with China over recent years?  Wonder why Australians still aren’t enamoured with the ALP opposition, despite a government coming across as misogynist, incompetent, and prone to pandering to the whims of corporate Australia and the 1%?

Ironically, the barely concealed CCP propagandist outfit at UTS, Australia-China Relations Institute, has nailed the answers.  This week a new report on Australian views on the Australia-China relationship’ reveals that Australians are seeing through the Chinese propaganda with laser-like vision.  Scott Morrison, the man from Marketing, has obviously twigged, but the focus group results for the ALP must still be waiting on the line.

Let’s start with the obvious one – do we have too much economic reliance on China?

It doesn’t get any more obvious than this.  Australians – virtually 4 out of every 5 of us – think we are too economically reliant on China, with the chickens of that over-reliance coming home in the form of Chinese restrictions to Australian imports over the last 18 months.  This is after a generation of Australia’s exposed sectors being fried alive with a currency far higher than it would otherwise have been but for Chinese commodity buys, and Australian manufacturing being exported wholesale.  That is 4 out of 5 Australians are are looking for a plan of how we prepare to earn a living once China calls time on Australian iron ore exports, and tells its students to look elsewhere for their University courses.  Hello Government or Opposition – come in, over……

Now that economic reliance wouldn’t need to be that much of an issue, but in the case of our largest trading partner – we simply don’t trust their government.

That 4 out of 5 who think we are over-reliant becomes 76% who overtly agree with the idea that they don’t trust the Chinese government or 92% of us who don’t actually trust them.  On the one hand, this shouldn’t be that much of a shock – after all how many Australians would actually trust our government?  But it goes right to the nub of concerns a lot of Australians obviously have about trusting an opaque political regime in a nation where they have no say whatsoever, where Australians do get locked up behind a mystifying legal process, and where, let’s face it, even Chinese citizens don’t seem to get that much of a say.

When it comes to issues on which they can;t trust the Chinese government, the world is our oyster.  It could be run-of-the-mill corruption, or it could be treatment of Uyghurs or the Tibetans, or the protestors in Hong Kong.  It could be Australian citizens locked away without much explanation in the Chinese legal system. It could be Chinese security and police types acting as crowd control at Australian universities, or keeping tabs on Chinese students in Australia.  It could be the internet police state. It could be the blocking of Australian imports, or the inability to recognise that Huawei could be seen as an agent of the Chinese state.  It could be the nine-dash line laying China’s claim to the South China Sea. It could be concern about what all those Chinese military aircraft are doing near Taiwan. It could be a once per century pandemic likely released from a lab. It could be bribing the Australian parliament. It could being spat on daily by wolf warriors threatening the end of Australian freedom.

The overwhelming majority of Australians would like to meet all of this with calling out bullshit when they see it.  That isn’t that much of a surprise really, except perhaps to ACRI. The real mystery is in considering why the administration of a nation to whom we have sold our soul would think that this is the way to engage with us:

More than half of us disagree with the idea that our government – manifestly incompetent when it comes to handling Covid or rolling out a vaccine it may be – needs to tone things down when it comes to stating some simple home truths about Beijing.  And of course, that sentiment is nowhere more pronounced than when it comes to the thought that there should be some sort of international investigation into the Origins of Covid.

The overwhelming theme of the report is that the majority of Australians have reservations about almost every aspect of Australian engagement with China. Regrettably the report also points to a degree of discomfort for Chinese Australians who have made Australia their home, with the degree of questioning of the relationship between the two nations.

But the real import of the survey and report on what Australians really think, is to underline the utter failure of the narrative Australians have been force-fed until just a short time ago –  that the economic rise of China was an unquestionable good, and that in engaging more closely with China the Chinese state would adopt behaviours more like administrations in the developed Western world. The collapse of that discourse goes to the very heart of the failure of Australian politics over the course of a generation.

Australians will be going to the polls in less than a year.  They will be comparing a government which is now obviously deriving political capital from the stance it has adopted towards China only within the very recent past, with an opposition which appears to be still adrift in its ability to come to terms with its own failed China narrative over a generation.  Both the government and the opposition need to start explaining to the Australian people how it is they intend to position Australia’s economy for the future, and how they are going to bring about changes to facilitate that positioning, as well as which Australians are likely to bear the brunt of adjusting away from a narrative they have pushed for a generation.


    • Nope. Pure polemics again. It misses the distrust in the scummo gov, especially re their on the record planned indue card rollout to the aged pension if re-elected. Indue card guarantees a solid win for the albatross and partial win for china. The more scummo’s mob says he/they never said what he/they said (yet again, it’s all they do) the more they… well suffice it to say it’s game over as the oldies will bury them.

  1. Duke_WellingtonMEMBER

    The fact that labor policy thinktanks (probably a stretch to call them that…) have not understood this earlier, if not at all, speaks volumes as to the rancid nature of thier leadership.
    I guess the opinions of 4 out 5 Australians is just plain racist, including ex-chinese nationals.

    They will never form government again unless they cull pretty much the whole party leadership and most sitting MP’s.

    • They don’t want to form government at federal level.

      The ALP is there to provide the veneer of democratic choice when it’s obvious that Australia is little more than a plutocracy these days.

      The natural party of the plutocratic elite is the LNP.

      Federal Labor is there to make up the numbers and occasionally form government if the LNP become too complacent or annoy the wrong people.

      • MathiasMEMBER

        So Labor wants to sit on the dole ( I mean, be an opposition and throw some angry words once in a while ) lol.

        Honestly though, I dont blame them. Assuming Labor did get in power and take things seriously, what can Labor build constructively that Liberals wont tear down again next term anyway.

        Its kind of pointless.

        What Labor is doing is wrong for the Australian People on many levels… but at the same time, I kind of understand it. Why would you bother? Australias too hostile against itself, let alone a Leader who wants to step up and help.

        Labor probably knows an economic crash, really is the only way.

  2. SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

    labor have become comfortable in opposition, they earn good money for writing self righteous books about themselves, they live in the inner city, and preen their feathers with our cash

    • Duke_WellingtonMEMBER

      err swampy , were you not on the “This misogyny will bring the government down” brigade a few months ago? Not so sure the guilty before proven innocent approach worked out so well now huh? Interesting.

  3. TailorTrashMEMBER

    ACRI …..isn’t (wasn’t) that Bob Carr’s nice little earner?
    ….and set up by Dastisri’s best mate that got turfed out .
    They must be very upset with those results and wish they were in China so they could get the kind of results they want . Good onya straya !

  4. I used to spend a good deal of time in Beijing and was once there for a conference – about 2010 – and as I was the guest speaker, I was chaperoned by a pretty young intern from the Foreign Ministry. We started talking in the car – the traffic in Beijing was awful even then – and I asked her what she wanted to do when she graduated. She spoke perfect English, could also speak several other European languages and was an ideal candidate, in my opinion, for the Foreign Ministry, which is what she wanted to do. When I said will they take you, her answer was a clear “no”. They were keen to have her as an intern, but the Ministry was controlled by middle age, PLA men and someone like her wasn’t welcome. She then opened up about what was going on there then, and it was from that point that I became increasingly alarmed by China. The country is controlled by hard-liners who view themselves as locked in a struggle with the West – principally the US – and they saw our friendship as a sign of weakness, to be exploited. Economic growth wasn’t there to improve the lot of the Chinese people – despite all this bulldust about ‘China Dream’ it was there to be used in the struggle.

    Until the Millennial Generation comes through, I just can’t see how China and the West can see eye to eye and that’s probably a generation away (if ever)…

    • MathiasMEMBER

      > Until the Millennial Generation comes through

      Sorry Peter but what do you mean by that?

  5. They have given the West a choice. Surrender – and face the same fate as all the other peoples who have been subjugated by Beijing – or stand up to them and protect ourselves and our values. To me, the choice is clear. To hell with them…

    • Many countries have chosen surrender as it makes their elite filthy rich. I guess we are different here as we have a resource rich endowment to plunder.

    • MathiasMEMBER

      Aussies are stubborn by nature Peter.

      Maybe its the beautiful land, the cheeky kookaburras, the koalas, the kangaroos, the little possums or just the sun rising over a beautiful landscape.

      I dont think we care one way or another… but try and attack our familys and the things we love so much, and we will do whatever it takes to make things stay that way.

      I think what makes Australias Politics so destructive is its an Aussie doing this to us. I think thats what confused many Australians and left us in disarray.

      I think the question which has Aussies lost is… ” How can an Aussie do this to another fellow Aussie? How can they turn on there own people? “. I think that really has people confused.

  6. I highly recommend reading Peter Hartcher’s new book Red Zone for a rather unsettling summary of China’s behaviour towards Australia over the last 10 years.

    I couldnt be happier with the pivot away from our biggest trading partner.

  7. MathiasMEMBER

    I dont know why the Young love China so much. My fight is to see a Free and Independent Australia. Free from both America and China.

    Australia is for Australians. Its the way it is… and way it should be.

    I had a conversation earlier with a mate. Here is what my mate said:

    > Yeah
    > We are pretty screwed
    > The boomers put us in this situation
    > And they are fing us down to the last standing boomer
    > ScoMos generation
    > Half of our generation have just tried to exist under their regime. A few of us have stood on its edge and laughed and cried

    Australia needs to change. It needs to put Australians first.

    I had a rather emotional experience a few days ago. I admit, Im cold at the best of times. I basically told someone, ” You spent all your life building all of this… and for what? In a few years, your health will collapse and most likely, you’ll be in a wheel chair. When are you going to wake up and realise that everything up until now has only been done for you and you’ve never had a plan for tommorrow. When you do die, what will be the point of anything you’ve just done? ”

    Apparently, I made that person cry. I’d sympathise but I’m all out of sympathy. My sympathy died 15 years ago. Now I just dont give a sh*t anymore.

    Australia needs to change. Some people need to wake the F up. If they dont, violence has to ensure before more Australians die.

    Sympathy doesnt erase away the fact many Young Australians will probably die before they get to live a healthy life. If the young in your family dont care enough to look after the Elderly, then why does Australia need you anymore? Your days are done.

    One more dead young person is one too many. Its the death of future Australia.

    One more dead Boomer changes nothing. Your time was over anyway.

    The Boomers are already dead. They just dont realise it yet.

    • C'est de la folieMEMBER

      Who me? 180 of course. I saw the charge at Balaclava first hand from the Sapouine heights. I am sure it was all a misunderstanding between Nolan and Cardigan. But the composure and formation all the way down the valley to Liprandi’s guns, under intense fire from front on and both sides, was surely the greatest testament to discipline and courage I will ever see. There were about 22 thousand Russians watching on from behind those guns, every man of them thinking ‘they surely cannot be serious’ but even if they werent or it was all a terrible tragic error, it was simply so insanely memorable.

      • okradovicMEMBER

        No, ’twas actually meant for the Mathias’s comment just above, but I clicked a wrong button. All this constant talk of boomers vs young people and self-pity made me wonder what generation are we dealing with here. But thanks for the history lesson, in any case.

  8. “……. with an opposition which appears to be still adrift in its ability to come to terms with its own failed China narrative over a generation.”
    Oppositions throw mud. When the government has required support from Labor on key points they got it. Example, when the government put forward legislation against foreign interference. Some of the ham-fisted language over aspects like Taiwan was always going to draw fire from the opposition. I believe you are mistaking political theatre for something more (as another here does). It’s propaganda/political spin.

    ” Both the government and the opposition need to start explaining to the Australian people how it is they intend to position Australia’s economy for the future, and how they are going to bring about changes to facilitate that positioning, as well as which Australians are likely to bear the brunt of adjusting away from a narrative they have pushed for a generation.”
    Now on this I completely agree and in all honesty, that illustrates my point– there is no real difference between the two parties. If there was we would see something more substantial – wouldn’t we?

    • The difference is the indue debit card greedy fundraiser for the LNP and its post election extension to old white pensioners.

  9. Note to Wolf Wankers.
    If President Xie offers you a new suit fitting, you ain’t being fitted out for formal attire. Think of it as an organ sizing event as a measure of appreciation for all the effective diplomacy you have foisted on the world.