Sunday Supplement: 27 September 2020

La Perouse, 1947, William Dargie, Art Gallery of NSW


Macro & Markets








Terra Specufestor


…and furthermore…


Vale Max Merritt……Died Los Angeles 24/09/2020

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  1. SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

    chynese are morons, they cannot drive, walk in a straight line, eat with their mouth shut and yet they out bid each other! for this! what a joke this dumb fckn dumb country has become, there is nothing Australian left in sydney, nothin

    Vale that painting of LaPa (as us bogans and lebos call it) soon to be full of chynese in high heels walking on sand(fckn morons)

    • boomengineeringMEMBER

      Chinese refused to buy my client’s wine exports so now I have to change a bottle labeler to label smaller bottles for canibis oil. Btw his father was in the SS back in his old country

      • Cannabis Oil?

        If cannabis oil is what your client is exporting that may explain why their Chinese “wine” customer rejected the shipment.

        SS ?

        So the “boys” didn’t all end up in Brazil !

        • No, they didn’t! Been a couple of public exposures of the ranking ones here many years ago. I met a few old ones among many old soldiers from all over when I was a young lad in the Cross…. they weren’t bragging, but they weren’t hiding it either – & they were all drinking together after shooting at each other decades earlier – commonality.

          • Any stories?

            My mate at school Andrew D had a dad who was in the Hitler youth.

            Sometimes when his dad argued with his missus (which was quite frequently) he would goose step around the house singing Deutschland Uber Alles.

            Also they were swingers apparently, quite a shock in the quiet Beresfield community.

      • Interesting point. You’d wonder how much of this is funded by jobkeepers channelled to their shell company.

  2. Good link to the IEA: on Carbon Capture and Storage: “Without it, our energy and climate goals will become virtually impossible to reach,” IEA head Fatih Birol said”. To date it doesn’t exist in any meaningful way, which Angus Taylor knows.

    So there’s the rub – without CCUS we have civilisation-ending runaway climate change. The only alternative is an end to growth, which also happens to be civilistion-ending-as-we-know-it. All the renewables in the world are not going to change that.

    China is now responsible for more than half the world’s existing, and under-construction, coal fired power stations and is building and expanding more of everything at break neck speed, making a mockery of it’s new claim to be carbon neutral by 2060.

    Fatih Birol of the IEA is the most reliable global authority. Should be headlines around the world but sinks largely out of sight from MSM, Greens and politicians of all persuasions in the biggest Ponzi of them all.

    • Could I ask a silly question – I apologize.

      As a simple mechanic, small business, but who has a few clients and a few apprentices and staff, the opinion of most of the people I bump into is that we are bever going to reduce energy usage to get carbon in the atmosphere down.

      So with that line of thought as the starting point, what is the actual problem with developing technology to simply pull the carbon from the air – massive machines if needed?. I also think we need to start building mega nuclear reactors for desal plants, and planting trees in the sahara and Oz, and that sort of stuff. Like I know that isnt ‘natural’ but I dont think we get there by natural. I think we are going to need to engineering. But from what I see that line of thinking seems to be beyond the pale for a lot of people in the field.

      • C02 is product of exothermic reaction, hence Carbon ‘locked’ to Oxygen in ‘low energy’ state (if you will) hence extracting/sequestering the Carbon (or even the C02) is possible but requires massive energy inputs, that need NOT to involve producing more CO2 or else just chasing tail. Logic is that if you can find an alternative energy source just use if for primary energy consumption.

        Trees very good for slow CO2 removal but need water++ There are not many places even in this empty nation that trees are not presently growing but would if someone would just plant a few seeds and wander off.

        If people would just bite the bullet, nuclear to cover electricity needs for the country and to desalinate water and pump it a LONG way (> 2000KM) inland from e.g. Port Augusta +/- through Barrier Ranges would be the game changer we are all looking for. But won’t happen, because Uranium bad etc.

      • Username checks out 😉
        All these technologies could have been developed if the money and effort wasted in Middle East wars had been directed to that. It’s hard to conceptualise the treasure lost in order to make one country there feel safer.

      • More machines?

        Too many people. Too much land clearing.

        Where’s Greens and MSM talking about that?

      • Diogenes the CynicMEMBER

        Carbon capture isn’t economic even when you site the device right in/on a coal fired power station chimney let alone in the middle of nowhere. There is also this issue of what to do with carbon captured (it’s no issue for plants!) – Chevron have been planning to inject carbon into the ground (sequestration) at Gorgon and either were not being realistic about their promises or faced genuine technical difficulties that delayed this for years. Assuming the latter – if they can’t get it right then most companies have no hope.

        • Arthur Schopenhauer

          It cost almost as much energy to pump the CO2 back in as was extracted. Same outcome for Victoria.

          • It takes a huge amount of energy to cool and compress CO2 into a liquid. It’s cheap and easy to grow algae and with it though.

      • @ the Mechanic
        I agree with the people you know that we are never voluntarily going to reduce energy for two primary reasons 1) the entire world is dependent on never ending growth of consumption 2) the human species is seemingly incapable of envisioning its own end or of acting to prevent it, and instead, occupy ourselves with minutiae. This shows up worst in politics, which faced with now overwhelming and irrefutable evidence of imminent end-times, is mired in the small, the local and the relatively trivial in every country in the world. Even here on MB.

        The problem with developing technology to ‘simply pull carbon from the air’ is that a) we’ve been trying and have so far failed, b) the sheer scale of what’s needed in the time left is prohibitively expensive and like renewables, is actually hugely energy intensive and expensive to manufacture and install in the time left, and at a time an increasingly fractured and debt-ridden world is falling apart at the seams.

        Sadly, although our species is hugely inventive, what we’ve invented has depended on the planet to provide us with for free – all the resources, minerals, and natural elements such as clean air, water and topsoil, and we’ve failed to price these in. Now we find ourselves at a point where we’ve picked the all the low hanging fruit and are now backed up a blind alley with only the dregs remaining, and have poisoned the planet in the process.

        As the IEA article said, to reach net zero CO2 emissions by 2050, CCS must rocket from around 40 million tonnes today, to 800 million tonnes in 2030, costing around $160 billion – at a time the world is facing the worst depression in a hundred years, and with declining soil, air and water the world over. China, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, all of central Asia and the ME are facing critical water and food shortages to boot. Faced with hunger, humans go to war.

        So sadly, we’re out of time and have overstretched ourselves like a field of rabbits that has bred itself right up to the fence line and eaten down the grass to dirt, and are now in an impossible position.

        I believe the crux of the problem is the human species itself and our inability to realistically think and plan ahead, and although we’re inventive and resourceful, we remain genetically no different from the humans of a million years ago, when immediacy and small local living and survival were the most serious challenges we faced.

        A good book if you want to understand the cumulative and complex challenges, is Australian author, Julian Cribb’s 2019 book “Food or War” (in which he names pestilence on a global scale as a threat)

          • Yes, seems like peanuts, but it’s also not currently scaleable in any meaningful way, then there’s NIMBYism, and like nuclear waste, the captured CO2 has to remain underground for 100s of years…..

          • Arthur Schopenhauer

            Usually the plan revolves around pumping the co2 into exhausted gas wells. The geological cap that trapped the gas, has to be impermeable to whatever by-product the co2 and water in the former gas basin create. It’s really a fiction promoted by oil and gas interests, along the same lines as recycling plastic.

        • “Tragedy of the commons” is what will bring humanity down. It’s inevitable. It’s a flaw in human nature, and never really mattered until we invented the petrol engine (and believed globalisation was in our interests).

          We’re doomed. No other logical outcome.

      • Wrote reply but it’s been moderated for some inexplicable reason – a massive waste of time. Will try and post to Duke6 reply below.

        • Edit – tried to post reply to The Mechanic, but moderated multiple times for no reason. Infuriating. MB needs to fix its moderating

          • Maybe there’s a moderation algorithm which estimates the writers frustration. Higher the frustration index, longer the post stays in moderation. This metric could then feed into an overall engagement index..

          • Metrics are part of Service level management, the purpose of which is to set clear business-based targets for service performance, so that the delivery of a service can be properly assessed, monitored and managed against these targets.

          • That presents as a long-winded way of saying very little. Have you considered a career in politics?

      • Building a machine to capture C02 from the atmosphere is unlikely to ever be able to remove as much carbon as was required for the construction and operation of said machine. I have read several ideas for such a machine but they always get stuck at the energy required per unit of CO2 removed from the atmosphere.
        One of the best ways to achieve this goal is by growing algae in the worlds deep oceans. Most of the big oceans are basically deserts (as far as life is concerned) because once you move more than about 200km from the coast the water is so lacking in nutrients that it simply can sustain even the most privative life forms. However if you add Iron to the water then Phytoplankton can grow in water that today supports no life. If the dead Phytoplankton simply sink to the bottom of the deep ocean then the CO2 captured will remain locked up for a long time. Trouble is that doesn’t appear to be what happens, instead the captured CO2 gets recycled and the deep oceans also lose some other critical minerals and trace elements.
        So any factory (or environmental process) that can really reduce atmospheric CO2 needs to focus on the energy in Co2 captured equation.
        One promising technology that could provide very cheap energy is Dye sensitized solar cell.
        These are very cheap to produce and if they can achieve greater than 10% efficiency (basically 100W/m2) electrical output then they can be combined with other cheap technologies to desalinate water and thereby achieve tree growth in desert environments. One of the cheapest Desalination technologies is Electrodialysis, it is not very energy efficient (for Ocean salt water), but it is cheap to manufacture and cheap to operate especially in remote areas and very good for Desalinating Brackish water.
        Combine the two technologies with appropriate agriculture and maybe you have the beginnings of a solution.

      • Good question Mechanic.

        I reckon that geo engineering is the way we will go. It is just a matter of time. I dont know if it is the way we should go, because as you say it isnt natural, and I fret about the possibility we will end up with an air conditioned world and the temperature settings will reflect the priorities of those with their hands closest to the control panel.

        I dunno about where, but I tend to the view that somehow we need more water down the Darling, and I have thought there may be something in simply slapping a desal plant somewhere up in QLD.My environmentally conscious friends (or more conscious than I) tell me the idea is not a goer because what Desal plants do is create lots of extra salty water, which you wouldnt really want on the Great Barrier Reef in QLD, and I wouldnt have thought would be all that environmentally OK in the waters around Port Augusta either. What I was told is that they are best where there is deep water close in offshore – so that has me sort of thinking coast of WA, coast near SA/VIC border, or NSW coast.

        I think that the world (thinking mega scale) is going to have to look at uber spending and massive projects as a way to fend of economic meltdown, and it wouldnt really surprise me if over time we started to see some mega projects – the forestation of near deserts and mega freshwater creation, and probably mega canals or pipelines too.

        I know thats not all that appealing to a lot of people, but I dont really think we are going to get the temperature down any other way.

        • Thank you for all the work you obviously put into all your comments.
          It is really appreciated.
          On a totally different note, I really like the painting again- great painter.
          Is there a particular reason they are all posted from art gallery of nsw website?

          • Thank you! One of the beauties of being an ‘ex’ journo is that you can take your time to write what you think, and I tend to write quite quickly. So I do when it comes to writing what I think.

            On the paintings – I try and make them all Australian paintings – I generally go to NGV or AGNSW, because they have loads in the public domain. I attribute, and put them here as an ‘education’ of sorts (making people aware of some of the great painters Australia has had whom most of us have never heard of – I know a few of them, I wanted to be a painter when younger). The other state galleries tend not to have decent collections online. The NGV has recently rejigged their online collection so that you cant really just go and wade though ‘Australian Paintings’ any more and pretty much have to be looking for a specific artist or painting. So the AGNSW ‘wins’ because of my laziness.

        • See my comment to The Mechanic below for the likelihood of there ever being an air conditioned world. To paraphrase: Never Going To Happen…

          • Yeah I get that, cheers. I wasnt thinking so much of a big machine which magically takes zillions of tonnes of carbon from the air, but rather infrastructure to create shunt and deploy water in places where it isnt ‘naturally’ occurring. I get that there will be loads of dangers in that approach too, and presumably loads which science hasnt yet thought of. The reason I think we will start to draft that way is the human race (or the global economy) has spent a generation pulling future demand forward (mainly to the benefit of the 1%), and to fend off the risk of the next financial collapse it now (and for some time) will need top spend a lot more. My guess (and it is only a guess) is that the 1% will get the governments to deploy their balance sheets and to ‘create money’ and the 1% will take the enfilade position on extracting the juiciest cuts of the money deployed thus. That would presumably buy time for the 1% to fend off an unemployment driven revolutionary impulse in the developed world, by keeping enough of the punterariat in gigs to support the debts they already have. At the moment I assume the 1% are aware of a general global concern about global warming (having spent large sums of money trying to discredit the science pointing to global warming with a view to extracting the juiciest monies to be extracted from the petro era) so they will be presumably OK with governments deploying public funds to mitigate/head off/ react to the impacts of global warming, as long as it keeps punters in jobs and enables them to soak up the bulk of the funds thus crated.

            That is gloomy, I think I will go for a walk now.

        • I completely agree with your take on the political aspects around money creation and the 1%’s ability to extract the juicy bits on the way down.
          With this worldwide leaning to money printing, with the 1% being the major beneficiaries, I do wonder at what point the rest of us globally cease to agree that money actually has value (given that fiat currency *only* has a value because we all agree that it does)
          And I further wonder happens then.
          No wonder I’m a farmer these days, instead of an inner city IT type…

        • Thanks for the Max Merrit clip.
          Takes me back to Brisbane in the late 1960’s.
          I was involved in the anti Vietnam war / civil liberties movement back then.
          The Union movement was one of our allies, and lent us the top floor of their Trades Hall building one Sunday a month.
          We turned it into a cultural centre called a Foco ( a Spanish term I think). The beauty of the having the Trades Hall was the coppers were not keen on upsetting the Union movement and stayed away, which in Brisbane in those days was a real blessing.
          There were 8 big rooms on the top floor, one of them very big, (i’ll come back to it )
          In each room was an activity, Folk music, theatre, poetry readings, old movies, political lectures, cultural events ( the Wave Hill elders came and told us their story.)
          The whole thing was based around the political book table in the lobby , the only way in was by the lift.
          The book table was the embyo of what became the Red and Black Bookshop that ran for decades in Brisbane.
          To enter you paid a dollar, of which 40cents was your membership. We ended up with over 4,000 members.
          At 9 0’clock each Sunday evening the very big room became a disco, the like of which had not been seen in Brisbane even though there was a terrific music scene in the city, mostly coffee lounges and clubs.
          It was the first time I saw a strobe, there were 2 wires diverging from the floor to the ceiling which carried an electiric charge like horizontal lightning, colour wheels and psychadelic projectors.
          Starring acts were, The Purple Hearts with Lobby Lloydd, Matt Taylor and his Blues band, Jeff St John and the CopperWine and the best of all Max Merritt and the Meteors.
          So Popular was Foco that we ended up bringing Max and the Meteors exclusively every month for about 6 months.
          Better days.

          • innocent bystander

            brought back memories that clip of Max and his band. Saw them a few times in Sydney in the 60s, probably at The Troc.
            also saw St John quite a lot as he played around Sydney quite a bit (often on campus). Saw him a few years ago at a wine bar in Perth/Freo (actually, quite a few years ago now) – think he was/is living hereabouts.

        • desmodromicMEMBER

          To get more water down the Darling, simply stop sucking it out in the upper catchment. Barnaby’s mates are hard at it and what they don’t use they have sold to the Chinese. If it is not criminal, it should be.

      • It’s worth trying to stick a few numbers around drt’s reply above to get a feel for just how big the task of extracting the CO2 from the air is.
        In making these back of the envelope calcs, I’ll have to make some assumptions, a number of which are wrong. The first wrong assumption is that, photosynthesis aside, CO2 can actually transformed back into something stable like elemental carbon plus O2 (the only practical reaction to date is 2 x CO2 => 2 x CO + O2, which doesn’t really get you anywhere wrt sequestration, as it’s just making fuel to turn back into CO2).
        So leaving that aside, we need to look at the amount of energy required to make the reaction happen.
        As I said, no practical reaction exists, so I will simply take the energy produced by burning CO2 and assume the same amount of energy to reverse the reaction (that’s wrong assumption number two, the energy required to reverse redox reactions is often more than that produced by the forward reaction).
        I’ll also assume that you want to return the CO2 to pre-industrial levels, which we are currently approximately 48% above.

        So, energy produced by burning C in excess O2 = 32.8 MJ per kg.
        Total amount of CO2 in the atmosphere = 2.06 x 10^15 kg
        Amount of CO2 to remove = 6 x 10^14 kg (~600,000,000,000 tonnes)
        Energy required for the chemical reaction alone > 1.97 x 10^16 MJ

        For this to work, you’re going to need to access one third of the atmosphere and extract all the CO2 to feed your reaction. For that, you’ll probably need some big fans, compressors and freezers. It’ll take some time to process all the air, so I’ll assume you’ll build something that will do the job in 25 years.

        So let’s see where that takes us:

        Total mass of atmosphere = 5.15 x 10^18 kg
        the portion we need to process = 1.54 x 10^18 kg
        Density of air at sea level = 1.225kg/m3
        total volume of air to process = 1.23 x 10^18 m3

        A decent industrial fan at low pressure can move 10,000m3/hr at 1kw power consumption
        which converts into 1.23 x 10^17 kW/h or 123,000,000 TW/h or 4.43 x 10^17MJ

        At this point I’m going to get really lazy and assume that the compressors will consume the same energy as the fans (highly unlikely, more like ten times as much energy per m3, but I’m needing to get on to other things just now…)
        So, compressor energy required = 4.43 x 10^17MJ

        Total energy required to move all that air, compress it and run the reaction:
        (1.97 x 10^16)+(4.43 x 10^17)+(4.43 x 10^17) MJ
        = 9.06 x 10^17 MJ

        To put that in perspective:

        Total world energy consumption = 155,481 Twh (5.5 x 10^14MJ)
        (2014 numbers, latest I could find easily)

        Or, you’re looking for 1,547 times more energy that the entire world consumed in 2014, or 65 times total world consumption for the next 25 years. And we haven’t even factored in the energy required to build the system yet.

        Let’s put it another way. Even if you build new nuclear power to do it, it’s Never. Going. To. Happen.

          • A lot of coal was formed during the carboniferous period when CO2 was 10000ppm. Until 20 million years ago it was 800ppm. We are currently in an Ice age and a CO2 drought. But apparently were doomed because computer models that can’t predict the weather 2 weeks from now said so. Unfortunately people can’t recognize obvious pseudoscience because they are blinded by their own self righteous ideology. Who cares about the scientific method, mertonian norms and intellectual humility. Anyone who disagree with the self proclaimed experts is in the pay of big oil (oh look a conspiracy theory) If you don’t question you deserve to be swindled by the elites.
            It always ammuses me that MB is a contrarian website devoted to showing the corruption of the elites and their captured media, yet blindy accept the narrative on global warming from those same corrupt elements. At least Covid stripped them of their 6 monthly junkets.

  3. For anyone interested, COVID update from the ground here in Florida: one of our neighbours is the nurse manager for major hospital in our area. They are down to ~one new covid patient per day. Down from the spike around April/May. Hospital now very quiet as all elective surgery still on hold. She is about 65 and pretty sure she had it before they began testing (~March). A few of her nurses been off work still sick. Plenty of old people still getting around over here business as usual, not worried about it at all, going to restaurants etc. and they are just fine. Just hits everyone differently.

    • Sounds like Herd Immunity, and sounds like the Flu – hospitals get very busy each year from that too.

      • Yes we know a lot of people, and a lot of those we talk to say they have had it, and had it earlier than you would expect (Nov-Feb) and prior to covid testing being available. They were tested for flu and found negative. Of everyone we know, we know of two people who have died from it. One is a grandparent of a friend (elderly) who was actually living in Peru. The other was an old man (90+) in our neighbourhood who lived alone. Apparently someone decided back in June that he shouldn’t be living alone, they moved him to a hospital where he caught Covid and didn’t make it. We only found out because his chickens were roaming the neighbourhood.
        Most people over here are not concerned about this virus any more. At the checkout line, the cashiers find the plexiglass ‘protector’ panels put up between them and the customers to be annoying and stand beside them to talk around them. Everyone recognises that this is an aerosol so none of these measures make much of a difference. Now they are repealing the mask ordinances and the kids have been sent back to the schools. Here it is more liberal than other states where they are still extremely afraid and believe in these precautions (i.e. NY, D.C.)
        A lot of people seem to be somewhat sick but still struggling through it with a bit of a cough and some congestion. This virus seems notably more spreadable e.g. aerosol and more adaptive. Therefore, I am concerned about how this will play out during the normal flu season.

    • The partial lockdown worked. The question is, will reopening in September cause another spike like in July?

  4. desmodromicMEMBER

    Tales from the road. Having got to Winton and the realisation that the Birdsville Track was unlikely to open anytime soon, I resigned myself to waiting it out on a mate’s cattle property. Mercifully the day was cooler than the previous day’s 38C. I then changed direction and started heading for Longreach but everything changed again. I received a text that the SA/NSW border was likely to open. A quick look at the NSW website on my iPhone failed to elicit any insights into what I needed to cross from Queensland into NSW, so I rang. Informed that if I went to the bottom of page ……………. ‘Can’t be bothered, just tell me the answer’. Nothing required! Okay, Plan C is to ride home the long way on the bitumen via NSW. Started heading east having set out in the morning heading west. Now I picked the pace up wanting to make as many kilometres as possible but also wondering whether the knobby tyre I fitted for the desert tracks would last the distance. I got to Blackall late afternoon but couldn’t find accommodation, so pushed on an extra 100 km to Tambo. I found a room but the meal options were limited and not particularly attractive. Outback towns are currently very busy and the food and coffee options range from the very good to ‘walk away’. The following day the weather was getting noticeably cooler and I was enjoying the riding until I ran out of fuel 6 km north of Charleville. My dilemma was quickly solved with a call to the RAA and I set about finding breakfast—more undrinkable coffee! Back on the road some uncertainty remained as the border opening was conditional on no new cases in NSW. I pushed on only to realise that if the border opening wasn’t confirmed, I didn’t have enough fuel to return to Cunnamulla and was therefore committed to getting to Bourke. This day isn’t my best. I crossed the border into NSW and the only bed I could find for my 194cm frame was a single bed in a rough motel. The next day I had planned to ride along the Darling River through Louth and Tilpa heading for Broken Hill but the roads were closed due to rain. So, I stuck to the bitumen and travelled via Cobar. The run from Cobar to Broken Hill was once very familiar as we lived in Broken Hill in the late 80s and early 90s. Revisiting those ever-changing landscapes was a delight as the recent rain had worked its magic. Broken Hill is different and I settled into an afternoon of good coffee, great food and a couple of reds. The weather for the final run to Adelaide was predicted to be cold, wet and windy. The run to Oodla Wirra was cool and windy but also provided dramatic skies. I was getting cold (9-11C) so stopped at Manna Hill to put on more clothing. The SA Police were waiting at Oodla Wirra and processed travellers quickly. Then the weather Gods put on a show. Extreme wind guts, 4C at midday and snow!

    Four weeks, desert tracks, rainforest, heat, humidity, torrential rain, and snow in 6770 km from Adelaide to Cooktown and back. The second tyre was trashed on the bitumen but home safe.

    • Mining BoganMEMBER

      You missed the Betoota pub being reopened!! Although if you were heading down through Boulia you would have missed anyway. You also could have confirmed if the Bedourie Pub had burnt down. Hearing uncomfortable rumours.

      Your trip has me thinking and planning. Got family heading out to Jundah as we speak.

      • desmodromicMEMBER

        Yes, missed out on a visit to Betoota. I can confirm that the pub/shop/servo at Bedourie burnt down as I saw notices that no fuel was available.

    • Diogenes the CynicMEMBER

      Nice travelogue. Reminded me a bit of Investment Biker by Jim Rogers which I read when I was travelling around Asia.

  5. “Ukraine’s the Old Rotten System is alive and well – BNE Intellinews”

    Has a lot of comparisons to how governments world wide are run ,Australia not much different .
    Very sad state of affairs.

    • I worked out of Moscow a long time, but went into Ukraine tonnes of times (Kiev, Dnepro, Kharkiv mainly). My wife comes from a family which has relatives literally both sides of the border.

      A long period of time in that part of the world – which I left from an Australia I thought was fairly square in terms of its politics and corruption and legal processes – has sheeted home the suspicion and awareness of corruption here – I did (and sometimes still do) a lot of work with legal outfits in Moscow and co-wrote a book for large multinationals on how to deal with corruption in Russia. I have seen straight out some fairly spectacular examples of corruption. But for mine Ukraine was a completely different league – even from Russia. There I think the Oligarchs have literally bought the country (or been given it) and they have very little civic awareness, or awareness of anything other than their own pockets. A good mate of mine from the time I was over there was a Ukrainian journalist who used to join us for drinks in Moscow regularly, and was big into chasing down corruption. One day we just got word. he had been found in a ditch bound by barbed wire with his nuts cut off and shoved in his mouth. Another time I went to have a drink with a legal mate. I walked into a bar, and he had had about 4 shots before I got there and was behaving a touch strangely. When I asked him if he was OK, he told me he had gone around to meet a client (just outside Moscow) and had found the client face down in the pool with their hands tied behind their back, and a control shot in the back of the head. It can be a touch confronting.

      I tend to the view the tragedy of my lifetime is that Australia has become far more overtly corrupt and moved towards a Russia/Ukraine flavour of administration (or American, which is also far more openly corrupt than the Westminster style system Australia once had).

      • Thanks for your thoughts Gunna and wow you are certainly well traveled. My Baba (grandma) didn’t get to see the collapse of the USSR and the “freeing “ of Ukraine from Russian rule and in a way glad she didn’t as what was replaced IMO is as bad if not worse.
        At the out break of WWII the memory of the genocide (starvation) of the Ukrainian’s by Russia was etched in the Uke’s minds so they welcomed the Germans as saviours and what a mistake that was and Ukrainian’s took part of or were complicit in some of the most unsavoury events of the war . One good thing is that there are true nationalists still trying for a true free Ukraine and that is why I admire what you are trying to do with the setting up of a political party that has principles trying to stop Australia becoming a lost EZFKA

        You are fighting for Australia like a “true” Ukrainian Cossack 🇺🇦🇦🇺

    • People loves reading about scandals at private schools that charges over 30k a year. Regardless of why, they just do.

      • But top story? Really? It is just another smh bias. This one is against private schools. They actually think these lists don’t exist in public schools.

    • Sludge should be sacked but when you’ve only got a one seat majority, you for and say whatever you want. Shifty from Marketing will protect you and the LNP’s PR arm NewsCorp and 9Fax will make sure any fuss will be minimal.

    • SMH studiously avoiding the $50,000 damage done at Fairfield West High School in the muck up day high jinks.
      An unsavoury list concocted by immature, hormonal Shore Boys which shows no actual evidence of being acted upon is a million times worse than actual criminal damage done by the honest working class youth of Fairfield West who have made an early start on getting acquainted with the law.

  6. A couple of gems from the headlines:

    “Inflation to miss RBA targets for half a decade”. Worth filing that article and taking some names.

    P&I is worried that property is ‘becoming’ something you live not somewhere you live.

    Which rock you been living under these past two decades, liver lips?

    • Let the fireworks begin.

      I wonder who they’ll drag out of the closet to accuse her of sexual assault at uni or wearing blackface etc

      • Pretty good chance there will be some undocumented workers keeping her household on the road.
        I wonder if she has worked out what caused them yet.

        • Pretty good chance there will be some undocumented workers keeping her household on the road.

          Yes – probably those two Haitian children she adopted.

          The leading lights off the Progressive left are currently seething over the fact that a wh!te person has adopted a black child and is indoctrinating them in the culture of whiteness….

          “Some White colonizers “adopted” Black children. They “civilized” these “savage” children in the “superior” ways of White people, while using them as props in their lifelong pictures of denial, while cutting the biological parents of these children out of the picture of humanity.”

          – Ibram X. Kendi

          With his NYTimes #1 best selling book “How to be Anti-Racist” Kendi is a leading progressive black figure and proponent of “anti-racism” and pusher of the ideology that there is no such thing as “not racist”. Claiming to be colour blind is not enough, according to Kendi, Martin Luther King was wrong you MUST see racial differences and act on them in order to prove yourself as not being racist.

          He was also given a $10m USD dollar donation from @Jack of twitter in order to facilitate and enhance @Jack’s virtue signalling status.

      • She’s a “devout Catholic”. If wanting to overturn Roe v Wade isn’t enough, she will have some history of supporting some pedo priest somewhere.

    • The Penske FileMEMBER

      “noticing” the statistical facts about this strong case of flu doesn’t suit the narratives (even on this site).
      Lets just bunker down and wait for a vaccine to an illness with a 99% cure rate. Yes I know the short term studies about the long term effects say…..

    • “Notice deaths not increasing”

      There are many reasons why this will become less with time, none is because it is just a flu. Overreaction claim is what I agree with but not in the same sense. VIC lockouts and handling was probably the worst authoritarian approach so far. Physical isolation and distancing is the only universal pandemic solution that always works instantly. It is just that the VIC style handling adds unnecessary excessive harm.

      Awareness is at peak atm, most normal people with mild symptoms will test and isolate thus stopping the spread. Physical distancing is fairly well adopted and asymptomatic cases (the highest danger) are less likely to be as effective in spreading (in comparison to “it’s all good mate – life as normal” as in earlier months this year), and at last we must not forget that most vulnerable are already pushing daisies.

      I like the claim that Sweden will soon have developed herd immunity with their under 9000/1mil infection rate versus places like Brazil, South Africa or US which have by far greater infection ratio and rising – without herd immunity.

  7. roylefamilyMEMBER

    It is well known that some viruses take up residence in the body long term. Chickenpox, herpes, shingles for instance. I had a strange occurrence in the middle of Melbourne lock down 1. I was going to work two days a week to a giant office with three people in it. Other than that I was at at home with the missus. I got a bog standard cold. It was mild and lasted three days. Where TF did that come from. No one in the group of 5 was sick. I didn’t go anywhere and didn’t use PT. What if my bog standard corona virus cold was resident in me. Reactivating as my lungs drew in colder air each autumn.

    What if the WuFlu goes resident?

    • We all carry flu and virus bugs all the time that are just waiting for us to get a little run down or wet/cold etc, and off one of them goes, merrily multiplying away. 🙂

  8. I have a home Reno question. My roof is likely an older colourbond roof. Originally dark brown in colour. The sun and Aussie weather has caused the roof to lose its original colour and in parts you can see the raw metal colour coming through as the paint has worn off.. some fasteners are rusty. But overall the roof is solid, doesn’t leak and is in good condition still.

    But it’s right at the point where I sort of need to do something so it will last another 15-20 years without problem..

    I also want to install solar panels, but makes sense to deal with roof before the panels.

    Looking to repaint/seal it before laying down solar.

    My mum suggested getting quotes because doing it myself will be time consuming and I may not have all the equipment etc..

    So I got 1 quote. $4-6k (from internet due to Covid-19) will come out and look for more firm quote. Seems high given its just paint etc.. but paint adds up I guess. 2-3 days of work.

    Has anyone painted their roof? What paints did you use? Did it flake off again? Would you recommend getting a pro? I can find the time. I know paint is all about prep work. I have an air compressor and spray gun but also a pressure washer.

    I figure I could save some money doing it myself. Mum isn’t a fan of the idea.. I understand why, but in these uncertain times trying to be frugal.

    I do think repainting will lift home value due to roof being very prominent from street appeal perspective.

    Example photos..

    • Need to be sure they fix any damaged sections. We had our roof repointed and was talking to the roofer about painting the roof and he said you need to be careful who you get or more to the point what you ask for. Some will just paint the roof, no repairs. He’s had people who thought they were getting repairs done while they were getting their roof painted. Some will do minor fixes etc.

    • @Gav you will need to pressure wash the roof down with an additive to get rid off the residue of the colourbond and to aid adhesion of the roof paint. (disconnect downpipes from gutters and collect run off) . I would replace every roof screw with a new one colour matched to the colourbond colour you intend to repaint with. (old screws may have surface rust and rubber washers perished.)
      You will have to tape up windows (as per your pictures) etc and be mindful of overspray (non windy day).
      P.S you will need to leave the roof for a few days after cleaning.
      Will take time but roof area fairly flat so maybe have a go and get in contact with a Dulux or Taubmans rep or the like for advice on products application and what ever you use get the data sheet emailed prior to purchase as they can be a great help with application requirements etc.
      All the best.

      • From what I have heard, to get a good result when painting a roof it’s a bit like painting a car, 90% preparation and 10% paint. Painting over the rust doesn’t get rid of the rust. Painting over leaky roof screws doesn’t suddenly make them seal (well not for very long). So when you get a cheap quote you probably get a cheap job but that doesn’t mean that an expensive quote equals a good job.
        But not to worry because within a couple of years you’ll know if they did the job properly or not.

    • just hodl until ResponsibilityDodger comes in then sell and buy something with a better roof using the fat profit.

    • lovely place mate, reminds me of the german-outfit built houses from the 80’s in my area SEQ, high quality.

      • It’s a hand crafted mudbrick built by an Italian immigrant in the 80s. Top notch built quality. Very rustic (which is the look I love). Very happy with it. Just want to maintain it and improve where possible.

    • Can you get the government reno stimulus 10k and install a new roof!
      Oh reminds me with that old double 00 double 00 add with the seal

    • Colorbond metal roofing has 5 layers of protection.
      If it’s only fading paint, I would leave it. Probably looks better with the evolving metallic look, better than the original brown colour. Give BlueScope a call.
      I used to have a red Colorbond on my pervious home, however the painted rooves tend to fade, so now have a Zinculume roof, Zincalume looks good with age.

    • How big and how steep is it ? I did our zincalume one for $ 600 and it took me three weeks but it is a small house with low pitch. I hand scraped the loose stuff with stiff wire brushes with long handles and put proper roof paint on at the right time of year, but the oily finish was long gone. Scaffolding is pricey now if needed as well now.

      Depends how house proud you are….it won’t look like a new one but good enough but it is hard work…….if it is a solid roof and you are not flash I would price Insulpaint or similar for the long term. By the way here in Brisbane the economics of solar panels doesn’t work but solar hot water does for us over a 20 year period.

      • It’s probably double what you can see in the photos. The roof guy reckons it was around 220sqm from the Google Satellite view.

        • Check if they were quoting scaffolding and whether you have to have it, it doesn’t look too steep. I found I needed a coat of sealant and two coats of paint with anti-fungus ingredient so that the water can go in a tank. If the roofing nails have rubbers and are only surface rust the right sealant should handle that.

          Don’t try to do it all at once if you do it yourself and brighten up the gutters at the same time it makes a difference to how it looks. Much of the time is taken up with drying of the paint between coats and checking the weather forecast windows.

          If you have to have scaffold and use quality paint I am guessing $ 2,000 all up. Don’t be too proud to put some ring bolts in and use a harness.

          • The roof is not very steep, I’ve been up there a few times to clear gutters and uncap a chimney which had been sealed over. Also went up to check for mice/rats or possums because I kept hearing noises at night. I also cleaned the windows of cobwebs etc.. so it’s pretty accessible.

            I’m just worried about the paint flaking off and looking horrid if I do it myself and waiting for the right weather conditions etc.. Scaffolding may be needed for the sides of the house but not 100% sure it would be worth it.

            The fasteners are rusted up top (surface rust) and likely have their rubber grommets perished by now. So it’s worth replacing them all again.

            I was thinking I could experiment by doing the carport roof first, since that’s smaller and I may end up re-doing the carport to turn it into my garage in future anyway, so if I make a balls of it, at least it’s only the small car port area.

    • call me ArtieMEMBER


      Same as cars. You will always get a better job if you do it yourself, so long as you have the patience, the time and the nous

      • Presumably Jasper & it’s known to fade. Colourbond has a long warranty so check it – the tech & longevity is in the paint, not the steel. Get it sorted before surface rust turns malignant. Ukraine Fn has the way mate. Just remember a large flat surface like that will take a bit of consistent paint mixing, application & weather to look professional & even, when done. You’re up to it!

      • Here’s my 2 bob Gav
        If you don’t want to do it yourself and you don’t want to worry about it for another 25yrs, here’s something you could consider.
        * As mentioned by others, Zinc is the best option.
        * Get in contact with your local roofing centres and see what they have in 2nds ( you would be surprised how many people order sheets/gutters etc and don’t pick them up or give the wrong measurements and have to get it re-rolled)
        * Get a price for 0.48 sheets, (the standard is 0.42) it is a lot better quality and if you did get Zinc it should be roughly the same price as colorbond 0.42.
        * Find a 4yr roofing apprentice and offer him cash to do it, ours are forever doing weekend cash jobs as they are still paid peanuts but are treated as qualified.

    • $4-6 grand for that is a rip off. Nice, easy access roof, I’d do it myself if I were you. You’d only pay someone that sum if they needed a crane for stepp or no-access roof. Guerney and clean the roof well first, then a good quality undercoat sprayed on and two top coats early in the day to make sure it dries before nightfall. Last for 10-15 years, easy.

      My Mum had her (very steep) roof done which was in much worse nick and it lasted 20 years.

      • Thanks that was kind of my thoughts also. I was expecting to pay about $2k. The guy is going to come up and suss it out and will confirm his quote then. But I’ll ask a few places. I’ll also inquire with places like Dulux etc..

        • Good idea. I actually did our corrugated iron colour bond roof that had also faded, but used a specially configured corrugated iron foam roller (shaped like the corrugations). The danger with spraying may be that you have to thin the paint too much. The roller might take longer but may last longer too.

          The roof came up looking like new, still looking good four years later. Touch wood.

          PS love the house! Hope all’s well with bub and the job too 🙂

          • Sounds good, I would prefer to roll it on too, because spray can get everywhere (especially if it’s windy) and I’d have to mask off everything!

    • No sh1t

      A highly asymmetrical virus that targets western demographics (diabetes, obesity), western demographics (much higher proportion of elderly over 80 compared to Ch1na) and western priorities (favor the elderly).

      Originating from Ch1na

      At a time described by Lacy Hunt as a “very inopportune time” economically, with a very sick global economy in 2019

      Leading into the USA election with all the division that would bring

      And Ch1na using the distraction to throw its weight around SCS, HK, Taiwan ….

      No sh1t

      • Education/Academic qualification

        Doctor of Philosophy, University of Warwick

        1 Jan 1990 → 31 Dec 1992

        Award Date: 14 Jul 1993

        Who said Eugenics was defunct.

        • call me ArtieMEMBER

          Hi Mr Marsupial.

          Where did you find this information? (if references cannot be checked, it is not real)

          What is the implication, please? I know what eugenics means and it seems to have no relevance to anything these rather intelligent, studious and self-effacing people are talking about

          I don’t quite follow your (no-doubt well-thought-through) 🙂 comment (ironic smile to all other MB commentariat)

          To whom do your comments apply? Gomes or Masterjohn?

          Honestly…impenetrable and useless, as usual

        • Biography
          MGM Gomes graduated in Applied Mathematics from the University of Porto in 1987, and completed her MSc and PhD in Mathematics from the University of Warwick in 1990 and 1993, respectively. In 1999, she was awarded a Wellcome Research Training Fellowship in Mathematical Biology. In 2002, established her independent group at IGC, initially supported by a Marie Curie Excellence Grant, with a spectrum of projects ranging from fundamental mathematical concepts to management of population and ecosystem health, public engagement in science and development of research infrastructures. In 2015, she moved to the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine and, in 2020, became a Professor at the University of Strathclyde. She has published over 70 peer-reviewed research papers in international journals, initially in Mathematics and Physics and more recently in Biology, Ecology and Epidemiology, and supervised 6 PhD students and many postdocs.

          Gomes held visiting positions at the Institute for Mathematics and its Applications, University of Minnesota, at the Mathematical Biosciences Institute, Ohio State University, and at the University of São Paulo.

          • Yes. A point she made during the interview.

            Her work is describing WHAT has happened. The shape of the epidemic curves in each country, heterogeneity in relating R0 to HIT, and what the HIT may be.

            Others (including immunologists) need to figure out the WHY. Why is HIT 20%?

          • It boils down to if enough people get sick the infection can’t find more people to infect and out pops a number.

            This number unfortunately says nothing about death or morbidity in the near or far term from a broader perspective E.g. its as bad as the Newtonian perspective some use in economics ie. do you consider yourself a number – ????

    • Arthur Schopenhauer

      That’s a very clever way to wage war, and a lot simpler explanation than suggesting it was an emergent property of social networks.

      • Unlike chemical or radiological WMDs, biological weapons have the advantage that it can appear as a natural process.

        Lacy Hunt is worth a listen. He makes the point that in the previous 3 recessions, growth reduced by an average of 4%. On those occasions, growth leading into the recession had been very high.

        This time, the economy was sick in 2019 with growth of about 1.5%. Take away 4…..

        As he said, COVID came at a very inopportune time. We had too much debt. And COVID is forcing us to take on more

    • happy valleyMEMBER

      The chin-ahmen must be sitting back laughing at how the rest of the world is imploding from its wuhanflu?

      • Yes, it all does look to me to be an integrated plan towards increasing Ch1nese power.

        This virus has locked in the weakening of other economies for many years to come.

        It looked like a biological threat, but I now feel it was an economic attack.

        I wonder what’s next. Taiwan?

    • LOL, it was Xina that was really bad for locking out its cities, then it was bad that in early JAnuary it did not threaten sanctions to countries that said “it’s just a flu” or did not listen to WHO warning, now it is a full 180deg shift to blame XIna for lockouts adaptation (as the only working solution atm in containing the plandemic).

      No, I don’t exclude a possibility that XIna has nefarious interests at times, every power has them. It is just a big LOL moment to blame them for what is directly the result of laid-back approach gone wrong…

      • I suspect Ch1na knew a lot about this most unusual virus, and understood how asymmetrical it was. I would not be at all surprised if it was studied in those Uyghur camps.

        Ch1na has not contained this. But with their demographics it can pretty much fly under the radar. A great elderly Chinese die of old age, and their younger population gets a cold. And off to an education camp if anyone says COVID. So they may appear to have pretty much contained it. But I don’t buy it.

    • Orr come on, give the oldies a break. They’re entitled to get more back from the government than ever contributed.

    • Arthur Schopenhauer

      From what I’ve heard it’s to put fast chargers in your Supermarket or Hardware Super Store, ‘cause mates. Pretty sure it’s not for us plebs.

  9. Split emerges over policies to lift population growth – Ninefax….a crack in the Ponzi…

    “But Market Economics managing director Stephen Koukoulas, University of Western Australia Professor Jakob Madsen and Newcastle University Professor Bill Mitchell all strongly opposed any moves to encourage population growth in The Sydney Morning Herald/The Age Budget 2020 Scope Survey.

    At the same time many others warned the economy would struggle to recover without efforts to increase the migration rate, including University of Melbourne Professor Neville Norman, BIS Oxford Economics’ Sarah Hunter, Housing Industry Association chief economist Tim Reardon and a swathe of banking chief economists.”

    Housing Industry Association… and a swarm of banking locusts.

    Of course they would say that.

  10. Only nationalism can stop climate change –

    “Surely one of the starkest ironies of environmental politics is the mismatch between the ideology of those who take climate change most seriously, and the likely outcome if their prophecies come to pass. Green activists make dire warnings of the catastrophe to come, while also advancing a random assortment of ultra-liberal causes as part of their electoral platforms; yet if the predictions of the climate scientists are correct, the forthcoming age of blood and fire will surely not advance the ideals of liberalism, but bury them entirely.”

    • You are looking in the wrong direction. Why bother with the Greens? Of course, they are going to be all doom and gloom. But here’s a tip: go look at what the actuarial firms are factoring into their predictions for insurance companies. The couple of recent reports I’ve seen produced by actuaries that specialise in insurance both factor in climate change as having a significant and growing impact.

    • Great article, thanks for posting. One way to get the Greens/Left on board is not to call it Nationalism, but ‘localism’ – the saveur du jour, and of course, anti-globalism.

    • The threat is such that both liberals and conservatives must abandon their political hobbyhorses just to survive: “if the Greens and the left continue their blind ideological commitment to open borders,” Lieven argues, “they will feed white chauvinism, tear their societies apart, and make effective action to limit climate change impossible. If Right-wing parties allow aversion to Left-wing ideologies to blind them to the existential dangers of climate change, they will betray the vital national interests of their countries and doom them to eventual extinction.”

      This is an absurd false equivalence fallacy.

      The accusations against the “green left” are largely fabricated hypothetical constructs of conservative-dominated media, whereas the “right wing” policies are very real policies in existence today, pro-actively working against meaningful climate change action.

      The roadblocks to climate change action today, are right-wing culture warring and enthusiastic support for corporatist greed.

      Simple fact is that “left green” politics has zero real influence, so trying to assign it any responsibility for the upcoming catastrophes is prima facie ridiculous.

      But that sort of ridiculousness is what you get when the breadth and depth of conservative politics for decades has been simply opposing whatever it was the lefties wanted to do (or have done).

      That being said, there’s a vary valid point here:

      Therefore, he insists that a Green New Deal — a total rebalancing of national economies, on something approaching a war footing, around halting carbon emissions — is urgently necessary, and — counterintuitively — that it should be led by the security establishment and the political Right. The dismissive attitude to climate change displayed by conservatives must be jettisoned immediately, otherwise they will lose everything they profess to hold dear.

      This is just “well, duh”.

      Most, if not all Western Governments are controlled by right-wing parties and this is unlikely to change to any meaningful degree in the foreseeable future. Further, it is clear that action on climate change could be taken without said right-wing parties even needing to concede anything on their irrelevant culture war issues were it not for their own inability to separate them.

      Fundamentally, the roadblocks for doing anything about climate change lie almost entirely with a bunch of greedy old white blokes who control pretty much every institution of power and influence in the world. So whether or not a bunch of poor young multicultural hipsters are prepared to compromise on their irrelevant “utopian” issues is, well, utterly irrelevant.

      The whole argument presented is basically a derivative of “if she didn’t want to get raped, she shouldn’t have gone out dressed like that” only it’s “if those hippies wanted to save the environment, they shouldn’t have been so concerned about human rights”.

  11. I’m not sure if this has been posted before at MB but it’s certainly worth a read:

    Bob Birrell – Post-COVID Australian universities: The need for a new teaching and research vision –

    “The sudden interest in a more self-reliant Australia offers Australian universities a potential new business model as the facilitator of new knowledge intensive industries both though their training function and their applied research potential. They have been invited to play this role by the Coalition Government. It wants the universities: To be even more entrepreneurial and engaged with industry. In the post-COVID world, universities need to re-focus on domestic students and offer greater alignment with industry needs (Minister for Education, 2020).

    There is no sign yet that the universities are ready to embrace this message. Rather, their focus is on sustaining their existing business model. This includes desperate measures to revive the influx of overseas students.

    It also involves continued assertions that their existing research achievements will drive the Australian economy to a new and more productive future. The hollowness is evident, given that this achievement has occurred at precisely the time that Australia’s lack of self-reliance in advanced industry has become obvious.”

  12. This story didn’t last long, infact less than three hours on the top stories banner at the SMH. Infact, can’t see it on the homepage at all. Got bumped into oblivion by an lead story camels milk is the new goat’s milk, women prefering C sections, NZ pot referendum etc but no comment on Sludge.

    No doubt support for Barilaro came from stacked branches.