John Howard slams kow towing miners

Good stuff from the old battleaxe at. of all places, the Diggers and Dealers event:

“China remains an authoritarian country. But the economic importance of China to Australia is overwhelming, and we should never lose sight of that. Successive governments in Australia, from both sides of politics, have worked very effectively to keep a good balance in the relationship between the two societies.

“But it is getting harder, because the regime in China now is a lot more authoritarian than the one that was in power 10 years ago. And what we are seeing in Hong Kong perhaps represents a glimpse of the future for Chinese society.

“I’m almost inspired by the sight of so many hundreds and thousands of people peacefully demonstrating. When you think of the total population of Hong Kong and the number of people taking part in those demonstrations, it is a remarkable reminder of the resilience of the human spirit.

“I think it is something very challenging to the authorities in Beijing and it is hard to see how it finally works itself out.

“But it might be a reminder to all of us that this idea that you can have some kind of hybrid model of government whereby you have economic growth and economic liberty but people are still told what to do … maybe that hybrid model is not going to be successful after all.

“I hold a rather old-fashioned view, but I think it is a valid view, that if somebody is born into poverty and transitions to comfort in their lifetime they might put up with being told how to live their lives because they are grateful at no longer being poor.

“But if you are born into relative affluence and comfort you take that for granted and resent being told how to run your life.”

Bravo. Some self respect at last.

Comments

  1. Yeah, except he started the economic war on Australians by turbocharging immigration whilst claiming he was stopping the boats. Bet he wouldn’t think it was so great if aussies had the backbone to demonstrate about how their living standards are going backward due to policies that cvnt started and have continued under both parties. I just wish these old fvckers would piss off and die quietly. They had their chance to fvck us over, and boy did Howard do a good job at that, go die in a corner.

    • Exactly. This old turd has no idea and never has. He should just shut his mouth and go silently to his grave. God knows he’s inflicted enough damage to the country. He only had free reign for so many years because there was nothing better on the other side of the bottom of the barrel.

    • aussies had their living standards going backward due to policies that cvnt started and have continued under both parties but they were getting rich because they were becoming millionaires

      • He’s just realised he might actually still be around when TSHTF and for this country it’s largely because of the idiotic/ greed driven, short sighted policies he and his govt were happy to implement. He was the baby boomers’ wet dream but history has already written him off as a small man.

    • Howard’s a bloody hypocrite and always has been. I have no doubt he would view widespread protest against high levels of immigration very dimly and if he was in power it would be met with the full force of the law.

  2. Thank you Mr Howard.

    Hong Kong protests: second car rams protesters as fights break out – live updates

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/aug/05/hong-kong-protest-brings-city-to-standstill-ahead-of-carrie-lam-statement-live

    Hong Kong protests: Police and protesters fight running battles … BBC

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49231143

    Flights canceled, major roads blocked as Hong Kong protests escalate … CNN

    https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/hong-kong-strike-protest-intl-hnk/index.html

    • Hong Kong housing affordability rates the worst of the 309 urban markets surveyed in this year’s survey … again … with dwellings at an astronomical 20.9 times gross annual household incomes (median multiple) …

      2019 15th Annual Demographia International Housing Affordability Survey

      http://www.demographia.com/dhi.pdf

      What structural ‘affordable’ is for various dwelling types …

      Definition of an Affordable Housing Market – Performance Urban Planning

      http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/affordability.html

      What have the Hong Kong authorities done to date in addressing this extremely serious long term issue ?

      • Hugh, have you looked into their social housing programs?
        I understand there is a heavily discounted first home program where the initial price is low not a government contribution to a market price.

      • Interesting take on the HK protests, Hugh that I haven’t seen anywhere else before. The astronomically high housing prices may have sown the seeds of discontent there. Lucky Australians are so apathetic and docile.

  3. if somebody is born into poverty and transitions to comfort in their lifetime they might put up with being told how to live their lives because they are grateful at no longer being poor.

    “But if you are born into relative affluence and comfort you take that for granted and resent being told how to run your life.”

    The West is taking freedoms away:

    New Zealand forces tourists to hand over phone passwords at airport

    tourists will have to provide their mobile phone password when requested at customs or face a fine of up to £2,500 under new tough entry regulations – and privacy rights groups are calling for them to be removed.

    WTF?

    US set to request five years of social media history for all visa applicants

    WTF?

    Morrison government to make it easier to strip citizenship from people

    Bugger off. Down with the hypocritical West. Control freaks and psychopaths.

      • david collyerMEMBER

        Authoritarianism must be contested wherever it emerges. Public servants masquerading as anti-terrorist activists while imposing panopticon consequences on citizens are not to be tolerated. There are other ‘tells’ available to identify enemies of the state.

      • china is at least not hypocritical about its authoritarianism which makes it less dangerous than this hidden secret kind

      • “The Communist Party is in essence a secret society… presenting a striking resemblance to an underworld mob. It fears daylight, feeds upon deception and conspiracy, and rules by intimidation and terror.”
        – Pierre Ryckmans

      • China – where your social score matters.

        Between the States, NZ, China and now face recognition technology in my local shopping mall…. I’m pretty sure we are heading toward total authoritarianism.

        and a recap for those who have forgotten the plot…

        Nineteen Eighty-Four, often published as 1984, is a dystopian novel by English writer George Orwell published in June 1949, whose themes centre on the risks of government overreach, totalitarianism and repressive regimentation of all persons and behaviours within society.[2][3] The novel is set in an imagined future, the year 1984, when much of the world has fallen victim to perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance, historical negationism and propaganda.

  4. Complex Carbon Unit

    I use to watch the direct satellite to the stations, the rodent would have a continuous smile on his face and when the make up artist asked him to relax his face so she could prepaid him to go one air, he replied… this smile is never of my face for any television appearance even behind the scenes, what a false repulsive person if ever get to see him in the real light !!!!

  5. What can you say: China is an enigma.
    The more you know China the less you really understand China.
    It’s simultaneously the most authoritarian and yet also the freest society
    The state tells you exactly what to do and yet average citizens make a sort of sport out of adherence when the ref (police and authoritarian body) is watching and flaunting every rule the second the refs back is turned.
    You could always tell if the police were around by the presence (or absence) of street vendors that operated at the legal fringe (DVD’s, street food and popup markets) Most days they’d be there selling umbrellas the second it started to rain but sometimes they’d simply disappear for a week or even two.. It was strange how correlated the appearance / disappearance of street vendors was to the timing of official state visits. I used to be able to see into the official state visitor residence from my balcony, if the lights were on you didn’t even bother going out to look for a DVD…it was completely pointless.
    I guess it’s something that an Australian will never really understand…in a strange way we’re the ones that politely genuflect to authoritarian figures …and what’s more amazing we do it even when their back is turned.
    As I said China is an enigma, you just got to accept it for what it is.

    • Indeed. You would see protesters and then tanks would appear and drive over them and they would disappear. Enigmatic China.

    • That’s right….HK’ers are protesting against the too much freedom about to be imposed by Beijing.

      And umbrella selling really cuts to the heart of the matter too.

      • Like I said China is an enigma.
        It’s exactly what you say it is while also at the same time being what I say…makes no sense, buts that’s China

    • You’re kind of right, fisho. But I’d look at it another way. Law to the average Chinese is what ethics is to the average Christian. There needs to be fear of punishment behind it to enforce observance.

  6. Locus of ControlMEMBER

    “of all places, the Diggers and Dealers event…”

    What’s wrong with good ol’ Kal’? Lots goes down at Diggers and Dealers… Even alternative points of view, not just the usual tropes…