Uhlmann: Straya a China pussy

Via Chris Uhlmann comes a rare voice of sanity:

What is it that terrifies the people of Hong Kong about the Chinese Communist Party that eludes so many pliant Australian academics, business leaders and ex-politicians?

In the same breath, some local cognoscenti lament the Australian government’s weakness in barely mentioning the troubles in the Chinese territory before returning to their rote gripe that Canberra’s national security establishment is too hawkish.

Australia’s intelligence agencies are better described as cautious about the balance of risks and opportunities that come with China’s rise because, unlike their critics, they are not wilfully blind…On the streets of Hong Kong a people’s visceral fear is on parade. They fear they are to be subsumed by what looks increasingly like a nasty totalitarian regime.

…Expect no parades of courage here. Australia’s problem with China isn’t that it is too assertive, it is that we are weak.

Much more at the piece. Too right. As UBS discovered, kissing the CPC’s butt encourages it to sit on you harder.

Australian groveling is all the more bizarre when we note that it has been on the wrong end of CPC influence operations much more than elsewhere. There is a good reason for that. We have power. Via ANZUS and iron ore, which directly supports CPC economic legitimacy. We cannot be pushed around.

Unless we let ourselves be.

Comments

    • Any comment germane to the content of his article? Or just a pointless ad hominem?

  1. As i’ve said so many times now, Aus govt are cowards, go eat a meat pie and watch footy fck, embarrassing, i along with all my aussie mates up here are shocked at my countries response, we have all what they want!!! and we are being pushed around…fck sake…pussies, go watch masterchef or the block…nothing to see here…let govt let you down on all rules that protect you like building qualities, proper finance regulation etc but hey he eats a meat pie and drinks beer…let immigration flood in and off course let China run rings round you…nobody cares except the more worldly ones who understand the future ramifications…dont stand up for the ones who stand up, thats the aus mentality now….terrible.

  2. The United Front are trying to encourage us to believe that the rise of China is inevitable and that the CPC speaks for China. Both are in fact not true at all; but fit the Sun-Tzu approach that the best wars are the ones you with without needing to fight.

    The Chinese economy has massive flaws in it and the CPC is a brutally repressive regime with no legitimacy

    • John Howards Bowling Coach

      Peter I spend a lot of time there, I spend a lot of time trying to get actual market stats, they don’t exist. From what I can see the actual true economy in China is not nearly as large as they say. Perhaps it is more like the Russian Missiles we found after the cold war were made of Papier Mache but had fooled us for at least a decade. I think China’s real economy is likely smaller than that of Japan. Certainly for most exporters globally they find the market disappointingly small unless you’re a commodity trader in very few commodities.

  3. I’m a simple man
    If I take the mans money than I do the mans bidding, if I don’t wish to do his bidding than I don’t take his money Simple!
    All form’s of Strayan structural/political independence begin with this simple concept and require diversified Income Diversified Income means breadth and depth in our Export markets, absolutely nothing else works, again it’s simple to understand.
    Every Australian that cares about Sovereignty needs to stop bitc#ing and instead understand where each dollar they spend comes from. Furthermore every Australian needs to ask themselves what they can do to broaden our Export Income base.
    Since the above is nothing but wishful thinking I’ll work instead on perfecting my kowtow. ….you gotta be good at something!

    • pussy..we are not selling cars or clothes, we are selling stuff THEY NEED…no one else has it and if they do they are not reliable….they need food and commodities, we have it they need it…1.3 billion people apposed to 25mil…thats called the upper hand..

      • Agreed.

        Call their bluff.

        Australians think they are tough – ’till you threaten their ute and investment property, and then they melt.

        Chickens.

        Can’t even reform our own economy.

        Have some real guts, Aussies.

      • @Rob the underlying problem is not who holds the upper hand commodity price negations but rather do we really have the option to engage, or not engage in the sale of said commodities.
        In today’s economic environment Australia does not really have the option to not sell Iron Ore to China because exercising this option would undoubtedly collapse the economy. Compare this outcome to that of a Diversified economy where Iron Ore say constituted 10% of our total Export Revenue with China buying less than 30% of said Ore.
        Indirectly we’re arguing for the same outcome but my point is that we don’t need to give up iron ore or even reduce it rather we need to leverage this income source to build additional diversified export income sources. It’s the last stage that is completely missing, and it’s something that every Australian can change through their own actions.
        So in my world view success has nothing to do with the price you sell items for and everything to do with the way that you use / leverage the income from these primary products.
        To illustrate my point look back at the time Iron Ore traded for over $150USD per tonne and tell me if the Australian economy was broadening or narrowing its focus.

    • Fisho, i get what ur saying but you have to understand Iron ore is at 5 year high and China is going thro a trade war, now is the time to use that…it will only make iron ore go higher if we stand up to them, they do it to our miners when there is a glut and now is our chance. Never Kow -tow when we are holding the better hand cause they never do and never will, they will screw all of us if they get too powerful, this is the whole point..and may i add, they never Kow-tow to anyone, its not there way, they are bullies…(govt not the people)

  4. ChinajimMEMBER

    That’s what we get when our “leadership” has the ideology and imagination of a small town chamber of commerce.

    I’ll say it again because I like saying it:

    Those who live by the shoeshine, die by the shoeshine.

    I’m sure that’s somewhere in Sun Tzu (🙄) as well.

  5. Have you ever had your butt kissed, properly kissed ? It feels awesome. Who could blame the Chinese for wanting some deep tongue action up there ? Australia’s business community is properly submissive, just the right girl for the job.

  6. You left out the most interesting thing in the article, the direct threat that the CCP will tell local Chinese not to vote Labor:

    The security tsar urged Labor to reconsider and issued an extraordinary threat: “Mr Meng said it would be a shame if Chinese government representatives had to tell the Chinese community in Australia that Labor did not support the relationship between Australia and China,”

    • That comment should have immediately been met with, “due to national security risks, we-chat is now banned in Australia”

    • So it should be seen as a tacit threat that apparently large portions of the Chinese community will follow instructions given to them by CPC?

    • Firstly, we should not accept that this person actually speaks for Chinese Australians! Bullcrap is the first thing that will come from the CCP (and most pollies, sadly…).

      Secondly: That’s actually a threat of insurgency…

  7. ChinajimMEMBER

    H&H you often like to differentiate between the Communist Party of China and the Chinese people. Given the current power of propaganda and education bordering on brain-washing that distinction is debatable, but I digress.

    It’s important for westerners who are unfamiliar with the many differences among Asians to start to understand some of the nuance in this respect.

    This is well explained by Ian Young here:

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3015104/why-dont-hong-kong-canadians-just-say-they-are-chinese-because

    As SBS says “it’s our differences that unite us”. Yeah, right!

      • ChinajimMEMBER

        Yep, just like all old empires. And in that sense Mao and the CCP was/ are like Tito in holding the whole thing together. And it’s that truth that terrifies the CCP.

    • Ok – let’s break it down then.

      Put aside the Chinese in Australia who were born here or migrated to Australia from a third country such as Malaysia or Indonesia & have been here for at least a generation or so.
      There is still1.3 million+ mainland born communist Chinese in Australia.
      Mostly the Hukuo underclass exported by the Chinese communist party in collaboration with the Chinese criminal syndicates after the failure to shift this Hukuo underclass from the tier 1 cities to the ‘ghost cities’..

      China will not stop their hukou outflow into Australia until Australia itself puts in border and visa controls like other countries (Canada, US, UK).
      Until that happens the Chinese mainland born Hukuo communist underclass will continue to flood in.
      Along with the associated crime, vice and non assimilation..

      China today has 100,000,000 – yes 100 million Chinese Hukou* internal illegals to either move to the ‘ghost cities’ or now increasingly send overseas as ‘migrant guestworkers’ or to exploit Australia & other countries borders & visa loopholes.

      *Chinese Hukou – 2nd & 3rd generation peasants that moved to the tier 1 cities in china’s industrialisation. Lowlife peasants, petty criminals, failed social credit score, vice Workers, broken down old & sick, socially undesirable. Denied a tier 1 city pass, limits in health care, education, not able to register to live permanently in the Chinese tier 1 cities.

      Fact check.
      https://www.cultivateleadership.org/blog-1/2018/2/15/chinas-middle-class-is-pulling-up-the-ladder-behind-itself

      “Roughly one-fifth of China’s population, some 250 to 300 million people, have irregular hukou status. The reform of the hukou system is a major plank of the Five Year Plan from 2016 to 2020. Under the reforms, 100 million internal migrant illegals are to have their hukou status ‘regularized’ by 2020. The first-tier cities opted to regularize their populations by expelling hukou applicants. Second-tier cities like Chengdu grant hukou status only if they have a masters degree. Third-tier cities will take them if they buy local real estate. But the Hukuo are poor & uneducated with no access to higher education”.

      The Chinese communist government in conjunction with the Chinese criminal syndicates have collaborated over the last decade to export & traffic this Chinese social welfare & economic burden overseas.

      Over 9 million Hukou poor, lowlife, criminals and failed social credit score have been exported so far as ‘China 🇨🇳 First’ colonisation of foreign countries in exploiting the borders and visa systems of foreign countries.

      The West, South Asia, Africa etc.

      To enter Australia as ‘Foreign students & partners, business & sponsored visas, or increasingly as ‘visitors in long stay & repeat stay.

      Australia now has 1.38 million mainland born communists Chinese onshore.

      The vast majority – especially the last decade have been this peasant and criminal Hukuo underclass.
      For anyone who has been in China it’s fairly easy to distinguish a Chinese educated elitist from the Tier 1 cities from what is flooding into Australian.
      Their dialect, skills, social attitudes, appearance, all give it away immediately.
      And let’s see their Hukuo status and social credit scores.. They are dominantly a mainland born chineee communist Hukuo underclass.

      🇨🇳235,000 mainland born Communist Chinese – mostly the earlier wave of export and colonisation, from China or via other countries.

      🇨🇳426,000 PR mainland born on Chinese passports – mainland born communist.

      🇨🇳367,000 TR mainland born Chinese communists on pretext foreign student, partner, skilled & other visas.

      🇨🇳135,000 mainland born Chinese communists on the NZ SCV loophole

      🇨🇳220,000 mainland born Chinese communists on long stay & repeat stay visitor visas – many working illegally.

      Total 1.38 million 🇨🇳Chinese communist hukou🇨🇳

      1.25 million or a 90% concentration or Sydney & Melbourne.

      🔹Sydney 750,000 Chinese mainland born communists in vast Chinese only ghettos.

      🔹Melbourne 575,000 Chinese mainland born communists in vast Chinese only ghettos.

      And the other Chinese mainland born communists in similar ghettos in the other capital cities.

      China has 3 major rebellions underway, a debt laden crashing economy, trouble in Hong Kong (on a simple criminal repatriation treaty showing just how corrupt and criminal these ex colonies are in resisting Chinese control).

      A criminal repatriation treaty that Australia and China should sign as well as a ‘sharing proceeds of crime’ in xfer back to China of the $80 billion or more looted out and used by the Chinese criminal syndicates…
      In money laundering into established Australia property as cash in hand migrant only bunk share, in vice, drug and people trafficking.

      Net.
      ▫️Expect even more Chinese Hukuo.

      ▫️More poor as Chinese puts tighter controls on the money outfiow the Chinese Hukuo mules & proxies traffick in & out for the Chinese foreign criminal syndicates washing the dirty money.

      There are still over 90 million Chinese Hukuo to be dumped somewhere.

      To flee China and the forced resettlement to the ghost cities – and to come & live and work in Australia illegally.

      $2k in China now buys an Australian PR.
      And the Chinese government bends all the rules and a blind eye to the people traffickers to assist in export of the Hukuo underclass.

      ➡️ The Chinese government and their criminal syndicates will still target Australia as an easy place to dump their criminals, aged, sick & social burden.

      That will be the trend.

      Nothing will change until Australia starts to enforce border & visa controls to prevent Australia from being swamped by this Chinese underclass being dumped here.

  8. There is no single reason for Australia to get into the business of spreading democracy around the globe. Our agencies should make sure none spreads other thing into Australia and Australians should finally start worrying about significant decline of our democracy, rise of top level corruption, destruction of commons and diminishing personal freedoms in the name of “growth” and other neoliberal gods.

  9. Ronin8317MEMBER

    Chris Uhlman got it wrong : the people of HK did not protest because they’re afraid of China : they marched because they’re not afraid.

    It’s been over 20 years since the handover, but HK people still don’t see themselves as part of the ‘mainland’, and they don’t want to be just another city in China. ‘One Country, Two System’ has enable HK to survive as a financial hub because it is independent of Beijing, but the extradition law will change all that : it means anyone in HK can be extradited to China on Beijing’s request. With China and the US engaged in a trade war, HK will become a no-go zone. This is why 2 million people marched on the street : the future of HK is at stake.

    • All across China is a simmering hatred of the Chinese communist party – 3 open rebellions & insurgency as China buckles & implodes from within.

      The Chinese ex communist system has now become ‘Socialism with Chinese characteristics’ – left wing national socialist or Nazi, with extremely racist collectivism, and a fascist or dictatorial regime.

      With past good times the natural trait of the Chinese to corruption, graft, vice and criminal activity has now percolated thru all of Chinese society.

      Now a downturn, and the corrupted Chinese peasantry & petty bourgeoisie are at odds with their corrupt elite.

      This is the stuff that lead to the French Revolution and will lead to the same in China.

      -/-

      However I don’t think you are correct on the China / Hong Kong repatriation agreement.

      If you think about it – that is actually a recognition by China of the two seperate judicial systems. Not suppressing it.

      It is no different to China having a repatriation agreement with another country.

      China has many repatriation treaties with the France, Thailand etc * see the list below.

      It is notable that the most appealing overseas destinations for the Chinese criminal syndicates, money laundering and migrant trafficking are those without
      a China repatriation treaty.

      Hong Kong, like Australia and New Zealand has become a safe haven for Chinese criminals and the operation of large scale Chinese criminal syndicates activity.

      So a China HK repatriation treaty not only makes sense, but is also a recognition of the ‘two systems’.

      -/-

      Australia needs a criminal repatriation treaty with China.

      We also need a ‘sharing of proceeds of crime like China & Canada have.

      That would see Chinese foreign run criminal activity and their dirty money in Australia come to an abrupt halt.

      The Australian government would be forced to repatriate tens of thousands of Chinese criminals hiding here – many on false identities – and up to $60 billion of Chinese corrupt & dirty money laundered here in property or other assets can be seized, sold or proceeds of crime, and shared back with China.

      Countries with which China maintains extradition treaties

      China maintains extradition treaties with 40 nations. Among them are:
      Belarus, Bulgaria, Cambodia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, France, Laos, Mongolia, Lithuania, Peru, Russia, The Philippines, Portugal, South Africa, South Korea, Romania, Spain, Thailand, Tunisia, The United Arab Emirates, Ukraine, Uzbekistan.

  10. A reality check and an infinitely better article than the apologist trash published in the SMH yesterday. The China fan club needs a reality check