Lowy Poll: Resistance to mass immigration skyrockets

We’re all racists now, from the new Lowy Poll:

For the first time, the Lowy Institute Poll has found that a majority of Australians oppose the current rate of immigration to Australia. In 2018, 54% of Australians say that ‘the total number of migrants coming to Australia each year is too high’. A minority (44%), say it is either ‘about right’ (30%) or ‘too low’ (14%). These results represent a significant rise in opposition to the existing migration rate – up 14 points since last year, and up 17 points since we first asked this question in 2014.

Australians have been generally positive about the benefits of immigration in the past. In 2016, almost three-quarters of Australians agreed that ‘overall, immigration has a positive impact on the economy’, and that ‘accepting immigrants from many different countries makes Australia stronger’.

In 2018, attitudes appear to have shifted. While they may remain positive about the contribution of migrants, Australians are expressing unease about immigration rates. This shift may reflect the rhetoric of politicians such as former prime minister Tony Abbott, who advocated in a speech in February 2018 (just before fieldwork for the Poll commenced) for cuts to the immigration rate to ease pressure on infrastructure, house prices, and wages.[7]

Australians also appear to be questioning the impact of immigration on the national identity. A majority (54%) say ‘Australia’s openness to people from all over the world is essential to who we are as a nation’. However, a substantial minority (41%), say ‘if Australia is too open to people from all over the world, we risk losing our identity as a nation’. Attitudes vary according to age: 66% of younger Australians aged 18–44 say Australia’s openness is essential, compared with only 41% of those over 45.

Australians are more divided on this question than Americans, who responded to the same question in late 2017 with only 29% saying that ‘if America is too open … we risk losing our identity as a nation’.

That suggests firmly that it is not about ethnicity for the majority. It is about numbers. Too many.

These results align with nearly all other recent polls.

We are winning the debate.

Comments

  1. You might be winning the debate, but no one important is talking about it.

    Both political parties support “quantitative peopling” via mass immigration, so immigration is unlikely ever to become an issue, outside of Sustainable Australia or One Nation supporters.

    • Oh they’re talking about it alright. Hosing it down constantly. It will boil over to policy eventually.

      When we began this campaign everyone that mentioned immigration was an automatic racist. It’s now the complete opposite with defenders under siege.

      This the biggest bulwark of the bubble that there is and it will take time to dismantle but we are winning.

      • We’re all racists now, from the new….
        . . .
        …When we began this campaign everyone that mentioned immigration was an automatic racist….

        It was the racists and xenophobes (and all other -isms and -phobes) that saw and used the opportunity to peddle their agenda and this is what kickstarted opposition to immigration (and by extension to excess immigration). Pauline “it” Hanson may be dumb and shallow but non-racially/non-ethnically motivated opposition to excess immigration would have never had a chance against our own (and our master’s) 1%ers

        IMO majority still oppose the immigration primarily due to undesirable ethnicity or would not be complaining (as much) if immigration pool was filled more from a pool of cherry picked ethnicities. Opposition to cultural evolution is a telltale. “if Australia is too open to people from all over the world, we risk losing our identity as a nation’.

      • Calvin, Backpackers in the 80’s always said Sydney was different to the rest of Australia. Not bad, just different – although they’d come to see Australia! I reckon they’d say the same about all our cities now. Except you could swing a cat in them back then…….

        Djenka, Everything evolves & I think that’s accepted, as is, that we are a nation of immigrants, but it might well be more about the pace of it?

    • Abbott, Dutton, Bolt, Dick Smith, CBA’s economist Gareth Aird, Mark Latham, Judith Sloan, Bob Brown, Australia Institute, 2GB & others.
      Okay, not Turnbull or Bill, but the voices are building.

  2. mild colonialMEMBER

    Absorptive capacity, Aust vs US. Our overlords have totally abused our capacity. Can’t wait to see the reaction in MSM. And a race by the parties to cut. I reckon this will be a real moment where we see politics turn on a dime.

    • sydboy007MEMBER

      It’s amazing just how long the elites choose to ignore the voice of the people. Look at Europe. Voters are having to go further right than they’d probably like just to get parties that will cut immigration and enforce the law of the land.

      • haroldusMEMBER

        ah – that comment crystallises my thoughts, i had been trying to find words to express an impression i had.

        ta!

      • haroldusMEMBER

        ah – that comment crystallises my thoughts, i had been trying to find words to express an impression i had.

        ta!

    • MSM will say nothing on this, neither will the two major parties. It will never be an issue because they all make money out of it.

      • DominicMEMBER

        Money, sure. But it’s more than that. The economy is sitting atop a gigantic, destructive bubble and immigration is one of the key supports. As a result immigration levels are non-negotiable. If it weren’t the case, one of the major parties would be contesting the next election on the immigration issue. It has been mutually agreed that immigration is a no-go zone.

      • mild colonialMEMBER

        Yes, they won’t actually cut, they’re addicted. But there might be a farcical drama where they pretend they’re going to, pre-election.

    • Bloody hell!! You can’t do that. It would let the bloody cat out and bedlam would ensue

    • Right.

      A survey will give you the results you want if you word the questions correctly.

  3. reusachtigeMEMBER

    54% is hardly convincing. I still think most people love the vibrancy of freshly imported human capital but right-wing racialist propaganda is infecting their minds.

    • Attracting diverse human capital and skills is vitally important for our economy. Translation: we can goose GDP by counting ever increasing Asian rub ‘n’ tug joints, and who doesn’t love a happy ending?

      • Don’t you like that you can go to Sheep Creek and still get your Tum Yum with prawns and stir-fry, followed by a massage???
        😉

    • Talk about Vibrancy:
      Just what we need, another mining investment boom and we are still counting the cost of the last boom!

      The last boom saw us add 550,000 people to Perth over ten years to 2016. As a result, the real cost of housing soared, while we became accustomed to crowded roads, trains and hospital surgeries along with sipping $5 cups of coffee and $10 pints, while demountable classrooms spread like a fungus across what was once school sports ovals.

      Functional shopping strips in the inner suburbs converted into canyons bordered by six to eight-story apartment blocks. Rising rents and the arrival of parking meters saw most retailers move to gaudy malls, brought to us by the same investors who built the dog-box apartments. The remaining coffee shops and late-night bars support the vibrant sound of ambulances and police sirens after midnight to keep residents sleep deprived.

      Ashen-faced residents depart for work, where they find jobs servicing a few individuals who are lucky enough to earn big bucks in the mining game. As they pass little vibrant pools of vomit, urine and worse, signs of the joy of inner-city living, they look to the bright shiny new stadium that provides circuses and beer and they wonder whether the mining boom has delivered any real net benefit to the community.

  4. LabrynthMEMBER

    The Yes vote won with 62% of the vote. As the commentators called it, it was a resounding result, a clear result, a just result.

    Seems like to make any change 62% is the threshold. Only at 54%.

  5. Rate of immigration should not exceed the rate of absorption/integration. Otherwise we risk disintegration of our society. There is always a danger that we could become like Europe.

  6. FiftiesFibroShack

    I’d bet if you asked that 41% their views on ‘Identity Politics’ they’d respond negatively.

  7. It’s way too late. Totally reactive measures now as usual.

    The Harvey Norman’s, the Woolies, the Coles, the property developers have well and truly stuffed our children’s future through their vested interests in cahoots with both sides of treacherous government that have put our kids last.
    Well done backward Australia.

    Through mass immigration, we have:
    1.Declining living standards
    2.Over-population
    3.Increased youth suicide and hopelessness
    4.Sky rocketing cost of living
    5.Property solely for the Chinese and cashed up Boomers that both play their insidious part in pricing young kids and their dreams out of a ridiculous market driven by greed.

    It’s always been about the Baby Boomers. And nothing will change until their selfish asses have gone.

    Meanwhile, you have radio ads by Harvey Norman himself where in one instance, he actually says “Thank you Government”.

    Why do you think for so so long now politicians have NEVER wanted to address this population rort?

    Pathetic.

    Kids….leave.

    Don’t get left burdened with a massive debt that should have been the domain and responsibility of your predecessors to pay.

    The Chinese are thought of more highly than you.

  8. All well and good, but this means I could ask 7 seven random people about Aus immigration and 1 would tell me it’s too low !!

  9. All this indicates is that arguing against the undeniable benefits of immigration exposed critics as either racist, stupid or both and did nothing for their cause, and that shifting the argument to immigration rates has proven to be a more productive approach. The benefits however remain an undeniable fact and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.

    Immigration is Australia, it is what makes it great and without a constant inflow of migrants, we would not have the skilled workforce we have today, our schools would be empty, our communities in decay, our economy and society would have collapsed long, long time ago. If anything given the economic headwinds politicians need to develop policies that will not only uplift rates but also attract the best migrants, particularly from our key trading partners in Asia. Our future economic prosperity can only benefit from the strengthening of our connections in the region with the ties migrants establish, and our children benefit growing up and going to school amongst the children of intelligent, industrious, hard working contributors from our region and beyond who come here determined to succeed. We have an empty continent, half empty cities, and an ageing population, immigration is a necessity and the racists, the views of the Trumps, Abbotts, Hansons, and the elderly out of touch cohort these creeps represent are an existential threat to be stamped out by any means necessary.

      • If your question is do I live in Aus, yes I do. In the vibrant and cosmopolitan inner suburbs of melbourne to be exact. Where you can grab a Turkish burek for a quick bite or enjoy a sashimi and sake dinner, all in the same street. All thanks to immigration. My kids, go to the same school I went to, only without the boganism and among a more positive and warmer classmates. Again thanks to immigration. I have a good job that pays well. Again thanks to immigration bringing their skills and money here.

        The anti-immigration sentiment on this site is driven by two motives,
        a) desire for a house/competition for jobs (fair enough everyone wants a roof over their head and nobody wants to be unemployed)
        b) racism
        Falling immigration will not fix (a) in fact it will make it worse. The best fix for (b) is to get out of your comfort zone, travel and/or participate in the community in things that give you exposure to various cultures that make up australia.

      • Fred, why can’t you “grab a Turkish burek for a quick bite or enjoy a sashimi and sake dinner” with SOME immigration rather than HUGE immigration? It’s great to have a variety of food, but can we only do it if we have the highest immigration rate in the western world?

      • md – I am not advocating “huge” unmanageable rates. Current amount is sustainable and right amount, could even be increased IMO. Our cities are not crowded as claimed on this site.

      • A lot of those bogans you so deride work hard on Low wages beside these immigrants Fred. Not every opportunist like yourself has been able to parlay immigrant sweat into lining their own pockets either. Perhaps some have more respect for them than to just use them for food & labour & the Lucre they bring? Are they handy footstools as well?

      • No Fred, the immigration level is not sustainable.

        How can you think it is, when Australia has the second highest house prices in the world after Hong Kong and Melbourne, the vibrant city you live in, has 20% youth unemployment?

        When the children in a country cant afford to feed themselves or put a roof over their heads, the government is doing something severly wrong.

        As for racism, as I said above, its only racist if you name a race. Nobody is talking race except you. Everyone else is talking numbers and the immigration numbers are too high.

      • drsmithyMEMBER

        Nobody is talking race except you.

        Plenty of people are talking race. Often they like to throw a figleaf over it by saying “culture” instead. Regardless, their belief is that destiny is determined by birth.

      • drsmithyMEMBER

        Our cities are not crowded as claimed on this site.

        Well, I don’t know Melbourne, but Sydney was overcrowded when I lived there 15 years and a million people ago. Brisbane is well along the same path and has gotten noticably worse just in the last 3-4 years.

        Trains and buses full, commutes long, roads congested even on weekends, can’t find a carpark at the shopping centre, road rage increasing, etc, etc.

    • blacktwin997MEMBER

      Ah yes, I fondly remember my freshman Social Studies elective too! Two hours a week and after 1pm, talk about intensive…

    • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

      What a load of baloney – Australia was built before we had the bullshit of populate or perish forced down our throats by the growth lobby in the 50s and the Diversity through Multicutluralism will lead us a bright and happy future, stronger and more unit, bullshit that the growth lobby have been pushing on us since the turn of the century.

      Australia was built – it was a nation with one of the highest standards of living in the world, with a high trust society, deep social capital and one of the most stable and homegenous nations on earth.

      If we hadn’t continued pouring people in to satisfy the likes of Gerry Harvey’s desire to sell another toaster, we’d have more affordable housing, perhaps a higher rate of natural population growth, our schools would not be crowded sausage factories, but better resourced education institutes, instead of importing masses of Chinese, Tawainess labours to plaster walls and paint the walls for Harry Triguboffs next human battery cage of new units, we’d have an economy shifting more towards the servicing of the needs of our existing residents – higher demand of nurses and careers might actually be addressing the wage imbalance between the genders instead of ridiculous propositions like gendered tax rate and diversity quotas.

      • You are describing a time when much of the world was undeveloped, recovering from war and desperately poor. Having the highest living standards then was meaningless, Australian’s were by today’s standards poorer, less educated, and more deprived of opportunity than today.

        If Australia shut its borders in the 50’s, it would have shut out skilled workers and lowered consumption, depriving local industry, employment opportunity, wealth creation, and its natural mineral wealth could not be exploited without sacrificing sovereignty, poverty, crime and corruption would have filled the void. Without immigration it would have become a scarcely populated continent, with an economy size of fiji, a worthless currency and high unemployment rates. If you were lucky enough to buy a house it would be constructed entirely out of locally sourced mud and sticks. lol!

      • Australia didn’t have world class living standards in the 50s – they came much later. Go to the immigration museum in Melbourne- comment after comment of people coming from bombed out Europe and finding there was even less here than back home

      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        “Oh no – I can’t find a Zucchini and the grocery store and when I asked for a coffee they only had filter”

        Said EVERY Bugman ever.

        Australia had the 5th highest earnings per capita in the world in 1950… so what if some wog couldn’t get a decent coffee and went crying home to Mama.

        https://www.quora.com/What-was-the-richest-country-in-the-world-after-World-War-II

        Houses made out of stick and mud – what sort of frigging idiot are you…. just ignore the fact that we remained one of the most educated people in the world and sit on the biggest mines in the world, yeah, we would have been all dirt poor idiots scrabbling around in the dirt waiting for some noble immigrant to come and save us from our filthy white heritage, everyone knows that if White People weren’t constantly surrounded by a flow of people whose highest cultural achievement literally was a mud hut, we’d never have been able to invent the microchip, discover penicillin or put a man on the moon.

      • A screen shot of some dude’s phone, posted on Quora, that refers to a different topic (e.g. GDP (!) rather than development, whether cultural or technological).
        You’re funny.

      • Stewie and now we have the 4th or first highest incomes depending on who you ask. Jeez the immigrants have really ruined the place. I suggest you get a job instead of posting on here 24×7 and enjoy your life dickhead.

    • One of the best piss takes I’ve read in a while! REus you have some competition!

    • Australia’s immigration ponzi strategy will be possible until Asia’s population starts falling in roughly 30 years. It was kicked off around 70 years ago straight after WWII, so we’re noticeably past the mid way point. Trouble is, no one’s working on the plan for what we do next, and I reckon we’re going to need most of those 30 years to figure it out.

    • Freddy boy is a special kind of stup1d!
      Probably works for LibLab department or some other entitled entity. Hasn’t been in touch with the real people for a long time. Obviously doesn’t drive and couldn’t care about anyone other than himself!
      As long as he has a few restaurants to chose from.
      How about you ask the people at the restaurant’s whether they are happy with $hit traffic, high rents etc etc.
      He got me the sneaky shister. Took the hook.

  10. If having an opposing view equates to trolling in your mind, you have spent too much time here drinking kool aid. The xenophobia and support of obnoxious Trump, Hanson and whatever other nutjob promising Armageddon is why I left this site.

    • blacktwin997MEMBER

      Far be it from me to be pedantic, however it appears that you haven’t actually left this site for a good two posts at least.

      • I returned out of curiosity too see what remains and with my suspicions confirmed I will leave once more. Don’t worry you can continue unloading your xenophobia among your narrow minded self pitying buddies without fear of being challenged.

      • blacktwin997MEMBER

        Hmm yes, point well made Fred. Some might argue however that leaving a third comment is not entirely compatible with your lofty ideal of actually leaving the site.

  11. This is all very well but nothing is going to change because Malcolm, Scummo, Cormann, Shorten, Bowen, Albanese are NOT listening. Period.

      • blacktwin997MEMBER

        That’s 5 comments on this article alone now Fred, all the more amazing given your second post’s claim of having already left the site! You must be some sort of magical inner-suburban time travelling history revising genius. Maybe a wizard.

      • blacktwin997MEMBER

        If you say so:

        Fred
        June 20, 2018 at 12:44 pm
        If having an opposing view equates to trolling in your mind, you have spent too much time here drinking kool aid. The xenophobia and support of obnoxious Trump, Hanson and whatever other nutjob promising Armageddon is why I left this site.

        Fred
        June 20, 2018 at 12:54 pm
        I returned out of curiosity too see what remains and with my suspicions confirmed I will leave once more. Don’t worry you can continue unloading your xenophobia among your narrow minded self pitying buddies without fear of being challenged.

        Fred
        June 20, 2018 at 4:03 pm
        Didn’t say I left, I am leaving.

        It’s not clear which of you is the real Fred!

        Then again as an accomplished time traveller and migration agent you’ll no doubt be attending to this potentially embarrassing situation presently.

      • Insulting people because they hold opposing views to you Fred is not strengthening your argument – it is making you look like a twat.

        Also, wanting to increase immigration by 10% a year puts you in the minority of voters as only 14% agree with you.

        One quote from you “The xenophobia and support of obnoxious Trump, Hanson and whatever other nutjob promising Armageddon is why I left this site.”
        This is blatant lie, you have no credibility Fred.

  12. When everyone tells me how amazing immigration is I just have to agree with them. It’s amazing how you can go from having levels of amenity that are the envy of the world to everything is broken in less than two decades. It’s absolutely amazing.

  13. drsmithyMEMBER

    A majority (54%) say ‘Australia’s openness to people from all over the world is essential to who we are as a nation’. However, a substantial minority (41%), say ‘if Australia is too open to people from all over the world, we risk losing our identity as a nation’.

    That’s a terrible question since you can quite consistently and coherently say “yes” to both.

  14. Like most polls it lacks any detail of background, methodology, objective questions, analysis and profiles of respondents or sample. However, it does mention how conservative and/or nativist MPs, media and influencers have become obsessed about reinforcing the negatives of post 70s (undefined) immigrants based upon pseudo science; post WWII polls did not support Catholic or Jewish immigration either.

    • And nor would polls in the ’70s and ’80s have been very positive about Vietnamese immigration, ‘Vietnamese street gangs’ being the ‘African gangs’ of the time.

      Plus ca change…