In defence of Novak Djokovic

Victorian Premier Dan Andrews has warned reigning Australian Open champion Novak Djokovic that he won’t be allowed into Melbourne to contest the 2022 tournament unless he is fully vaccinated against COVID:

The appearance of the world No.1 at the Australian Open looks certain to rely on him being fully vaccinated after Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews doubled down on his no-jab no-play stance…

The Premier said while the ultimate decision on letting unvaccinated players into the country rested with the Commonwealth government, if spectators had to be fully vaccinated then players should.

“You try getting into the US … most of Europe, really, (and) so many different parts of Asia if you haven’t been vaccinated,” Andrews told the ABC.

“Like, you’re just not getting a visa – why would that be different here?”.

He said the tennis players would be coming to Australia under a work or visitor visa, and “I don’t think it’s too much to say, if you want one of those visas and you want to come here, then you need to be double-vaxxed.

“All the people who are watching the tennis at the Australian Open, they’re going to be double-vaxxed, all the people that work there are going to be double-vaxxed,” Mr Andrews said.

“It stands to reason that if you want to get into the country to be part of that tournament, then you should be double-vaxxed as well.”

This might sound controversial, but I think Djokovic should be permitted into the country to play irrespective of whether he is vaccinated. The reason is simple.

Novak Djokovic caught COVID in June 2020 after he played in a series of exhibition matches he organized in Serbia and Croatia. Thus, Djokovic likely has more antibodies and better natural protection than somebody that is vaccinated but has not had the virus.

Maybe it is time to exempt those that have recovered from COVID from needing to be vaccinated? Proof of infection and recovery should perhaps be treated like proof of vaccination?

What do you think?

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    • TheLambKingMEMBER

      There’s no money in natural immunity.

      $2-$80 for a vaccine compared to a $10,000 hospital stay and pumping full of anti-viral drugs? But logic doesn’t get a look-in for many anti-vaxx comments.

      • Yep!
        Mate of mine got the bug in Austin Texas. 6 days in ICU and $100,000 later, he survived, unlike those with no health insurance in the same ward.
        Vax is pretty cheap. Not sure how “natural immunity” works. Folks can get the seasonal flu years after year as the variant transmogrifies.

          • Good news!
            “the study findings do not translate to vaccines that are not mRNA-based such as AstraZeneca-Oxford and the Johnson & Johnson vaccines”
            I’d rather get immunity from a series of vaccinations than the actual disease, which could kill me.

          • @Peter S You can relax, because no one’s trying to suggest banning vaccinations. It’s trying to ban unvaccinated people that has everyone in a frenzy right now

          • Anders Andersen

            Not according to the CDC.
            hese data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections. “If you have had COVID-19 before, please still get vaccinated,” said CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. “This study shows you are twice as likely to get infected again if you are unvaccinated. Getting the vaccine …

            This was released on the 6th August, the reinfection period was May-June 2021 (Kentucky), so I would have thought that is likely Delta. Didn’t read the lot!

          • Anders would that be the same CDC that overruled their own expert panel in deciding to recommend boosters? This study you’ve posted and admit you haven’t read says nothing of disease severity, only testing positive. I’m amazed that a mutating RNA virus like the coronavirus might reinfect people with a healthy immune system. That’s what the common cold does too. It’s normal.

      • Bruce Brucington

        Exactly. Big pharma wins when you stay for weeks in hospital getting fed cocktails of drugs. Morons.

      • Pretty sure Novak didn’t need to go to hospital like a majority of fit and health people. Grumpy fat old bustards like you, maybe not.

      • The article was about having immunity from prior infection being counted as equivalent to being vaccinated. The comment you responded to mentioned that the reason immunity from prior infection is not counted is no one can make money from it. You had two opportunities to read and comprehend what people were talking about and you still failed.

  1. This makes absolute sense which is why our Governments wont support it due to their current ‘vaccinate or perish’ narrative. Why is it so hard to get an antibody test for Covid?

    • And natural immunity has been been proven to be over 10 times more effective, since you have the ability to produce antibodies for every single protein of the virus, not just the single spike protein vaccines produce.

  2. “Fully Vaccinated” will be a shifting and ever changing definition for the Victorian government.
    By the time the tennis and F1 hit next year, there is a good chance “Fully Vaccinated” will mean they need their third booster shot.
    The whole thing might not even go ahead anyway until Victoria reaches 95% fully vaccinated with a third booster shot including children over 6 months. Then again, perhaps I am being over dramatic.

    • Agree

      But, I guess MB has a point, given he’s had it.

      Assuming he flies here on private jet with no testing prior to boarding:
      – yep you can come, hotel quarantine at the IBIS Darling Harbour for you (why were Clooney and ROberts allowed to sequester themselves in palatial surrounds to quarantine but poor old Joe Citizen can’t get home. Thankfully NSW is leading the way on this for expats, if vaxxed)
      – testing every 3 days whilst you’re here?

      It’s also a bad look if this guy gets special treatment whilst unvaxxed can’t go…so maybe there’s a broader convo about unvaxxed/who’ve had it having similar arrangements as vaxxed.

      Like I said yesterday, getting real messy real fast and all a bit disconcerting.

      • Don’t disagree that this has a long way to go. But if it pisses off Djokovic, I’m all for it.

  3. Agree 100%! And if the government followed her science they would too AND it would kill off some conspiracy theories!
    He almost certainly has better protection than the vaccinated, given the stronger immune response generated by natural infection (and he’s fit as)

    • Anders Andersen

      What has fitness to do with it; does it stop him from infecting others? And there is plenty saying natural immunity isn’t better.

  4. Mark WalmsleyMEMBER

    Double vaxxed. Are you kidding. He needs double vax, plus at least three booster shots.
    Boosters to infinity!!!

  5. whenever think of dan andrews wonder how below applies to him and how electorate will treat him at upcoming election

    democracy defined as “a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives”

    and then john adams comment “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy.”

  6. I was speaking to my old man about this (who is a specialist doctor). He reckons that is already the international system. If you can get an antibody test you can get an equivalent vaccine certification.

    I think the position sounds reasonable.

    • Muttafukabuttasaurus.MEMBER

      I worked with an ED consultant, he caught CV early on and was still required to get vaxxed a few months later.
      It’s gone political, don’t expect common sense to appear soon.

  7. Every recovered “case” is a vaccination NOT REQUIRED – particularly when we are talking about mRNA gene therapies. I consider there is potentially a benefit to recovered persons from NovaVax/CoVax/SpikaGen synthetic protein based vaccination (when it gets the TGA tick of approval).

    As many have pointed out there is nothing to be gained from subjective medical apartheid when the risk profile and transmission between vax/unvax is symmetrical.

    • Reus's large MEMBER

      So true but there are so many bedwetters out there that cannot grasp the basics of how natural immunity works and how data shows that it is 13x better than the vaccines, that will protest about him being un-vaccinated because they are too dumb to admit they are wrong.

    • Jumping jack flash

      The aim seems to be though to become exposed to the virus and not get sick. At all.

      Well while it is possible to achieve that, thats simply not how a normal immune system works when faced with a “rapid” virus like flu or SARS. Getting sick is just part of the journey.

      We may achieve “immunity” to the virus with 6-monthly boosters forever to prime our immune system into a state of perpetual readiness, but at what cost?

  8. Good English Youtube doctor explained that catching Covid and then getting a vaccine after almost makes you bullet proof – at least initial studies show that. So I think he should also be vaccinated.

    • I reckon all of Australia’s problems can be traced back to when the Aussies stopped sledging. As evident by the virtue signalling bans on Smith and Warner.

      • Their problems started when their great players retired and the sledging didn’t match the threat they posed on the field.

  9. Goldstandard1MEMBER

    Good luck with that sell. Millionaire Tennis player ok to travel unvaccinated into our country, but construction worker you lose your job if unvaccinated even if you’ve had covid.


  10. There seems to be pretty clear evidence that he’s been vaxed. Probably standing up for some principles, or simply being a pain in the arse…

  11. Big dumb rules. They are simple to police and no one can be accused of receiving special treatment.

    Someone up above had raised that an antibody test might be a good substitute. If it can be shown to be a better test to protect the community from a quarantine perspective and be easy to implement, then go for it. Until then vaxx passports for the win.


    Whilst we’re trying to get folks vaccinated so we can actually open the fck up, I don’t think govt can reasonably be seen to give an exemption to someone who’s claim to fame is hitting a ball over a fcken net for stupid amounts of money.

    Plus the cnunt is an anti-vaxxer so yea nah.

    Maybe 2023.

  13. Makes absolute sense.
    The lack of allowing people who have had covid a vax passport is not helping at all.

  14. A vaccinated individual has a smaller window of opportunity to transmit the virus compared to a non-vaccinated individual.

  15. Of course natural immunity is better, for the simple reason that the body creates a variety of different antibodies to various parts of the virus as it is exposed to the whole virus, as compared to mRNA vaccine that codes for a part of the spike protein.
    What the hell does Dan Andrews know anyway with his BA in politics and classics?

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    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a socialist.

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