Thank god for ScoMo, last of the patriots

The Australia/China divorce is widening with every passing day and with it hope is renewed, via Bloomie:

“The cause of the current difficulties in our bilateral relations is very clear,” Wang Wenbin, a spokesman for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, told reporters in Beijing on Thursday. “For some time Australia has been violating basic norms governing international relations, and made erroneous words and deeds on issues concerning China’s core interests, including those related to Hong Kong, Xinjiang and Taiwan, and blatantly interfered in China’s internal affairs.”

Wang added that “without any evidence, some in Australia accuse China of so-called interference and infiltration into Australia.” Those critics “politicize, stigmatize and put wanton restrictions on the normal bilateral exchange and cooperation,” he said. “These deeds severely undermined mutual trust, poisoned the atmosphere of bilateral relations, and restricted the good momentum of our practical cooperation.”

Nobody lies like a wolf wanker diplomat. Australia did nothing to stoke any of China’s internal divisions. It was China that violated Australian sovereignty with its shadowy influence operations.  The “silent invasion” as it became known. Not that that should stop us from being friends now. There’s no point in holding a grudge in international relations.

But what we cannot do is allow those operations to resume and that is the real sticking point to a resumption of trade. China only wants a relationship that results in its steadily taking control of Australian democracy via secretive channels so that it quietly kills democracy, supplants it with its oligarchic system and displaces the US as the regional hegemon. So, no deal.

Instead, ScoMo is appropriately shoring up the alliances, via the AFR:

Scott Morrison has used his first conversation with US President-elect Joe Biden to stress the importance of American engagement in the Indo-Pacific and to seek his co-operation in maintaining global order by restoring the status of key institutions and multilateral bodies such as the G20.

The Prime Minister spoke to Mr Biden on Thursday, as did the leaders of regional allies South Korea and Japan, ahead of a visit to Tokyo next week by Mr Morrison to meet his new Japanese counterpart Yoshihide Suga.

Mr Suga told Mr Biden in his call that the “security situation is increasingly severe”.

“Japan is a very special relationship with Australia,” [Morrison] said.

“It’s not just an economic one, it’s not just a trade one, it’s not just a cultural and social one, importantly, it is a strategic one that we form together with the United States and India, a very important quad relationship. We play a very important role together in working in the Southwest Pacific together.’

Damn right. Only by sticking together will Pacific democracies prevail against the CCP.

And thank god that it is the Coalition in power and not Labor. What is the Opposition doing? Sniping at the Government for months, ignoring that it is China that has become unmanageable not Australia, and demanding that we give in to Chinese demands via “diplomacy”. Then, just this week, it began tearing itself apart because Joel Fitzgibbon, a direct beneficiary of Chinese corruption and Labor’s most intense critic of the Government on China, is taking a tilt at the leadership. Is it just a bizarre coincidence that his backers in the NSW Right are the most intensely China-bribed faction in Australian politics?

Of course, Fitzgibbon is not alone. There are other elite beneficiaries of Chinese largesse that are cheerleading the death of the very liberalism that so elevated them. Also at the AFR:

Woodside Petroleum chairman Richard Goyder said he was deeply worried about the withdrawal of Chinese investors out of Woodside’s process to sell a stake in its $16 billion Scarborough gas project in Western Australia and warned the $100 billion iron ore export sector was not immune to the trade spat.

…Wesfarmers chairman Michael Chaney said the government had to balance trade and political considerations in what was a “very difficult” situation with China.

…With no sign of an end to the diplomatic deadlock, the Morrison government has been advising exporters to consider diversifying away from China.

Patrick Hutchison, CEO of the Australian Meat Industry Council, said “It is easy to try and diversify volume to get volume. It is a lot harder to diversify away to get value. That is what China delivers to our industry, value. We are one of Australia’s biggest exporting manufacturers,” he said.

…Australia’s ambassador to China, Graham Fletcher, made it clear to businesses based in China last week that the Morrison government was not going to back down.

As we shouldn’t. Australia cannot resume relations on the terms that are being offered. Beijing is using Australia as a test case for the expansion of “Xi Jinping thought” into economics and economic relationships as tools of geopolitical power. Does China benefit economically from its Australian blockade? No! This is all about crushing the Australian political system which will benefit the CCP as it seeks to destroy US-guaranteed democracy across Asia. It has nothing whatsoever to do with free trade. If we give in, then the policy will roll out wherever or whenever any objection is raised to Beijing.

As for our meat and other commodities. As the good lobbyist says, the volumes will go out anyway. Moreover, over time, prices will rise again. Chinese demand is not disappearing. It is being shifted to other nations. So their supply will be displaced from other customers opening new markets for Australia. Once that process is completed, a new price equilibrium will return.

It is extraordinary how intellectually backward and unpatriotic these so-called leaders are. The deepest foundations of Australian freedom are under direct attack and all they can do is whine about a few dollars more. I will call it pathetic. But I can think of a few much harsher labels that the Australian public would apply behind closed doors:

All I can say is thank god for ScoMo, last of the patriots.

David Llewellyn-Smith
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  1. Scomo a patriot? You need help.
    Yes, he is not going to sell to China but will sell to his mates and any western bidder. That’s not a patriot – still a traitor.

    • Yeah but its the CCP that is coming after us now and “offering” to resume relationship only if we surrender, beg on their terms. Nuts to that. And with all of their actions against Australian exports, it’s high time we took action against imports from China.
      Trump like tariffs, or we could rearrange our internal affairs by eliminating tax deductions for Australian tax paying entities for all good and services purchased from China. CCP efforts to meddle in Australian internal affairs are long running, tiresome and it is about time we took stern action.
      Other action needs to be buying more anti-ship missiles from the US, and adding to the long range radar capabilities. Threats not just formal naval fleet but also their ‘fishing’ fleets that have infected South China Sea and also Korean waters. Building more fuel storage so we don’t have to store oil in Louisiana would be good also.

      • US will also be coming after us if we ask UN to investigate US for arming IS in Syria and for UN to investigate who created IS and how they ended up with hundrerds of brand new Toyatas.

  2. Scomo’s China stance is the sole, but key, reason I’ll vote for the Coalition in the next election. Frankly, the man is a grubby, arrogant and stupid political hack who lucked into politics through connections rather than merit, and in any other circumstances I’d vote him out with relish. But the China issue is the most serious threat to our democracy this century, and so far his response has been exemplary and exactly what I want the government to be doing.

    Meanwhile, Albo is too cowardly to tell us what Labor will do if it was in power – more evidence that his role as opposition ‘leader’ is primary that of keeping the seat warm until someone else knifes him. Despite the presence of some China hawks in the party, it seems to me that most people in Labor are pro-PRC shills who are wilfully ignorant of the dangers we face if we cosy up to the CCP. Many in fact seem to have swallowed critical race theory hook, line and sinker, and think that any criticism of what is effectively a Sino-Nazi government is evidence of white supremacy that is beyond the pale. Never mind the Uighers or Tibetans, or political dissidents or any other group being persecuted, imprisoned and murdered within the Chinese borders – calling the PRC ‘Nazis’ is the greater of the two evils.

    I’m well aware that my personal grievances will fall on deaf ears within Labor (and most left) circles – their minds are made up, or at best, their capacity for critical thought extends no further than “is taking this position going to get me preselected/retain my seat?” And that’s their choice – they’re ostensibly adults who have the freedom to make their own choices in life.

    But I, and other voting Australians, also share that freedom. Perhaps they’ll express shock when their unscrupulous support for evil leaves them in opposition for decades, but if they shared half a brain cell between them, they’d realise that that was the ultimate consequence of abandoning our democratic ideals for short term political gain.

      • For my part I’ll largely be switching my vote away from Labor (and even further away from the Communis… Ah, I mean the Greens) and voting Sustainable Australia. They seem to be the Center left party we need right now.

        Unfortunately whenever I mention them as an alternative to anyone they tend to write them off as racists. I assume because of their sane immigration stance?

    • kierans777MEMBER

      The China issue, immigration, housing. There are so many critical issues that the ALP needs to act on, and in doing would probably be able to win government. Instead the LNP will be in until ~2025 in which case we can kiss the rest of the environment goodbye and watch as a changing climate really starts to bite.

      • If you think anything that Australia does in regards to its energy policy between now and 2025 will have any measurable effect on local or global climate, you’re kidding yourself!! you’ve been duped bud!

        • I’m well aware that actions we take regarding carbon emissions will take decades to “work through the system”, but we’re not even really trying to limit emissions, and the government is cooking the books.

          But there are things we can do other than energy policy. What about stopping the rampant land clearing? How about we reform agriculture to be more regenerative. Recognising the fundamental facts that population growth has on all our environmental issues.

          There is so much we can do, but we’re not.

          • Agree on that! Population policy is the only way Australia (and the world) can save the planet… its past the point where going all-out building wind farms and solar arrays will make much measurable difference. in ten years, we’ve come virtually nowhere in a massive quest to build out low-carbon electricity generation, and we’ve spent US$4 Trillion trying.

            Climate change debate (in its current form) is the ultimate distraction that says nothing of the fact that our plague is fast exceeding habitat carrying capacity

          • We can’t do anything (ethically) to address climate change through population in a meaningful timeframe.

            Consider an extreme example: if the whole world held back from babymaking until 2030, we’d get global population back to ca. 2013 (approx 600m deaths, population from 7.8b to 7.2b).

            The only approach that can maybe be productive in time (within a few decades) is to target consumption, through reduction of use and efficiency of production.

            Addressing it through population requires billions dead from war/plague/starvation in the third world, or basically the entire first world to commit suicide.

          • @drsmithy.

            I agree. However more often than not, the debate gets bogged down with people out there who paint the problem as one or the other ie: it’s all population or it’s all consumption. Even though I didn’t mention consumption above, I believe it’s both. We need to reduce both. It’s been shown again and again that all efficiency gains gets wiped out by population growth. If we reduce both our consumption and population growth then we have a better fighting chance.

          • It is both, but targeting consumption might have a chance at working on a timescale of decades (vs a century or two) and as a side effect, will almost certainly “fix” population at the same time, and in basically the same timeframe as a big focus on population would do.

            Consequently, the obvious path is to aggressively and primarily target consumption. Because outside of massive war/starvation/suicide there’s literally nothing that can be done on the population side in a useful timeframe.

            Reduce the gross overconsumption of Anglosphere countries (and to a lesser degree, western countries in general), increase the efficiency of production, then the increasing wealth levels of the third world will reduce population.

            The only people I see “bogging down the debate” are the ones who a) opposed to any reduction in their consumption (= quality of life to them) and/or b) obsessed with population (very frequently as a result of (a) ).

          • When you say ”we’re not doing anything’. What do you propose counts as anything.

            We’ve pretty much consigned coal to the dustbin, there won’t be any new plants in Australia
            Every 2nd house has rooftop Solar
            We’re maybe 10 years away from Electric vehicles going mainstream
            We fixed all the lightbulbs etc over the past 20 years
            Houses have to be built with much higher energy efficiency standards
            Solar plants seem to be springing up everywhere. There’s like 3 in the ACT now and there were none 10 years ago.

            If all this is nothing then what exactly is something?

            I agree with you on population. It definitely should be a focus point. What people don’t realise is that by stopping immigration we’re not allowing other countries to keep breeding past their carrying capacity by taking the load. It will mean they’ll have to deal with it sooner.

            From what I’ve read the global population will start to decline naturally at the end of the century anyway. It wouldn’t take much to make that start happening 20-30 years sooner. I’d like to start dealing with it now rather than get Australia up to 100M people each with our own shoebox to live in just so we can feel ‘enriched’ by all the multiculturalism.

    • The right-wing have started to call the Chinese ‘Nazi’ as a talking point in order to label them as “evil”, but the Chinese are not Nazi at all. A much better analogy is ‘The Borg’ in Star Trek the Next Generation. “Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated”. This is what is happening in Uyghur and Tibet : the ‘Collective’ doesn’t want to kill everyone, they want everyone to become ‘Chinese’. That has been the way ever since China was unified from the Qin dynasty.

      • “This is what is happening in Uyghur and Tibet :”
        and you know this because of _________ independent facts?

        ” they want everyone to become ‘Chinese’. “
        It is the policy supported in western democratic world, e.g. when someone demands under threat of expel that new Aussies assimilate into existing culture as if that culture is 1000yo and it never evolved ever since.

        • It’s the official Chinese government policy. It’s on their website.

          There is a huge difference between immigrants voluntarily move to a country, and a country being taken over by force. Tibetians and the Uyghurs did not willingly choose to become a part of China.

          • Neither have Hawaiians and yet we take the invader for a beacon of democracy.

            The loop goes endlessly in double standards applied to not-Western countries and ‘western’ countries.

      • I see China as a country that just hasn’t kept up with advancements in civilized thought. As the western world gradually progressed through the late 20th century they largely were isolated and left behind. They may have caught up economically, but their societal evolution is lagging.

      • As a big Star Trek fan I’ve often thought the same.

        “We are the Borg, lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.”

    • Nicely put. However…

      it seems to me that most people in Labor are pro-PRC shills who are wilfully ignorant of the dangers we face if we cosy up to the CCP

      I don’t think that captures it. I don’t think they’re wilfully ignorant. I reckon they know exactly what the results will be, and they’ve decided that they want to profit under the new masters they want to bring in. They see opportunities for the acquisition of power and wealth and want to be the local rulers under the new regime. Villainy and corruption is the name of the game in the ALP today rather than stupidity.

    • How do you reckon it will play out…China goes full steam ahead wolf wanker until what – can’t see Aus changing the current direction (mostly because I don’t believe it’s set by us) – or will they pull their heads in and try actual diplomacy…?? Even toddlers know there’s only so many tantrums you can throw before people stop noticing.

      • The Chinese government have many factions. The ‘wolf wankers’ have bypassed the normal government department by telling importers “your goods will not clear custom”, and therefore forced it into official government policy. Food prices is going to rise. As long as Australia doesn’t kowtow as demanded, the “Wolf Wankers” will not survive.

        • rob barrattMEMBER

          Oh yes they will. Enough internal terror can achieve anything. Ask Joe or Adolph. You just need to bribe the military leadership while at the same time threatening them. A time-honoured formula.

    • First, we shouldn’t ever allowed to become so dependent on China or any single country. This is the biggest mistake both Labour and Liberal governments made.
      Once we got ourselves stuck in this situation, we should have realised the risks we are exposed to and should have started to diversify slowly without picking fights.
      Where we are making big mistake is we picked a fight while are totally unprepared. There was no reason to go so openly hostile.
      There will be price to pay for this as China holds all the cards. All the cards literary. If someone thinks we can blackmail them with our Iron Ore, they should think twice. Yes, we can hurt them but it will be suicidal to us. If Brazil gets on our side and they hit China with some IO restrictions, then this is different story, but I doubt that would happen.
      Now that we are going full on trade war and decoupling I hope we get new leader in charge so they can guide the country through this difficult period as it will be difficult and painful for lot of people.
      If anyone thinks Scott is that person they need their heads checked. What Scott will do is, he will take this opportunity to sell to his mates and large US corps who will now own whatever little is left in our hands.
      I still think labour is not going to be the answer as they will probably try to make peace with China while we need our independence and diversified economy.

      • To your point about reliance — all these dropkick CEOs whining about Chyna being a vital market should never have allowed their companies to become so reliant on one market in the first place. Talk about concentration risk — they should be sacked for incompetence.

        • +1. Bipartisan shtick that started in the 80s and really accelerated under Keating.

          Jim Rickards explained this really well in terms of lazy western corps being seduced by large market of consumers they could sell a tshirt and can of coke to. Problem is they now want to do the same with India.

        • when profits are so high in deals with Xina, they’d be sacked for not seizing the opportunity.

          It is a heroin addiction game… one always just samples a bit only to enjoy it so much not to be able to stop until dependency is so strong it is impossible to give up.

      • ‘What Scott will do is, he will take this opportunity to sell to his mates and large US corps who will now own whatever little is left in our hands.’
        Yes, I do think these are our only two alternatives, but if I have to choose, I chose the US. People living in China live every day with a ‘hammer above their heads’ (literal statement from a Chinese person when I was there). That is why they are clamouring to get out of there. At any point in time, the govt can come in and take their assets and any member of their family with no recourse, never to be seen again. Whilst the US is totally corrupt and in the elites pocket, I would prefer that to the average chinese person existence. Poor set of choices however for the average Aussie.

    • “That sums up the current relationship between China and Australia right now.”

      Indeed… they asked for it by sending their military naval ships just a stone throw away from Aus eastern coast and all because they are Pyoutin’s lap dog.
      Slippery ‘slopes’

  3. I am continually surprised and impressed with the degree of psychological projection in the wolf wanker statements.

    They have made it an art, and have mastered it.

  4. Totes BeWokeMEMBER

    When nothing separates the two parties, (where both big Australia parties are a complete disaster for the plebs and environment), but a couple of key issues (Wokeness, China and boats), Labor have absolutely zero chance of winning.

    The Labor party is sick, and it’s making our democracy and country sick too.

    Most Australians don’t want LNP, but want Labor even less. That’s the problem.

    …” In effect, Labor, having driven much of its former working-class support base into the Coalition ranks, has left these voters with nowhere else to go”…..

    https://tapri.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Big-Australia-finalV6.pdf

    • The Labor party is sick, and it’s making our democracy and country sick too.

      Our democracy [model] and country is sick and it’s making The Labor [and every other political] party sick too.
      * Response wrt the other conversation

      • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

        Fair comment.

        Labor have the microphone. Fix it. Tell Australia what the situation is, and how Labor can help us out of the mass immigration, corporate driven mess THEY helped us get into.

        Today’s Labor politicians are incapable of dialogue beyond wokeness. It’s a tragedy bringing the whole country down.

  5. I’m on a vessel (Oil & Gas) sailing down from South Korea to Singapore at the moment – Japanese, American, South Korean and Chinese warships everywhere. Whole area feels like it’s about to kick off.

    The Chinese fishing vessels (which are everywhere) have been shining green lasers at our bridge every night. If it ever does kick off you can be pretty sure on who instigated it.

  6. rob barrattMEMBER

    Si vis pacem, para bellum. Actually, that saying pre-dates the Romans. Remember, dictators are like wine, it takes time for them to reach their maximum potential… Xi Jinping is no exception. Elected in 2013 where the voting went 2942 for, 1 against. Now where have we seen those kind of results before(?)….

    China in it’s current state is a deadly enemy. We’ve been feeding a pet crocodile.

  7. First time I’ve ever seen a reputable poll where 94% of Australians agree on one thing. If the ALP can’t see what that means they are too blinded by ideology (or greed, or stupidity, or whatever combination of things is blinding them) to be allowed to govern.

  8. Thus post doesn’t mean we should all be voting for Scomo. We should be looking for people who can stand as independents in the Senate and the House of Representatives.

    • Only problem with this approach is that it presupposes that Labor would not gladly cross the floor and vote with the LNP if that’s what was required to maintain their two party strangle hold on our Political environment.
      These days I have trouble telling the Labor party political pitch from the LNP political pitch so I have no disillusions about the lengths that they would go to to defeat a viable third party or simply undermine the political and economic value of Independents.

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