Royal commission for Murdoch PLUS Guardian, ABC, SBS…

Earlier this week from Kevin07:

The former Australian prime minister Kevin Rudd has launched a petition calling for a royal commission into NewsCorp’s dominance of Australia media, arguing Rupert Murdoch’s media company employs tactics that “chill free speech and undermine public debate”.

The petition, launched on the Australian Parliament website on Saturday, had gained more than 38,000 signatures by Sunday morning, with Rudd tweeting that the popularity of the petition had caused the website to suspect users signing it were robots.

On Sunday the Labor leader Anthony Albanese distanced himself from the push.

Fine. Bring it on. Just so long as while it examines the editorial biases of the Murdoch press, it equally examines the biases of The Guardian, ABC, SBS, as well as the corruption of journalism at Domain.

That’s the thing, you see. It’s all well and good to call an RC into the media of your political opponents but what about your allies, who are equally biased?

In the major media that I process daily the biases are obvious:

  • The Australian and the AFR are Coalition propaganda sheets.
  • The Guardian is the Labor propaganda sheet.
  • Nine’s metropolitan dailies are reasonably balanced but the Domain offshoot offers daily, deeply corrupt journalism.
  • News is pretty balanced as well, with boobs.
  • Daily Mail is tripe with even more boobs.
  • The public broadcasters are equally oriented more towards Labor than Liberal though less so than The Guardian. This is largely a function of the issues emanating from collapsing globalism – Chinese tyranny, mass immigration, climate change etc – than necessarily a tribal political bias. ABC is bad enough but SBS is nothing more than a migrant lobby and rent-seeker these days and should be shut down.

The numbers split this way:

I don’t listen to radio so can’t comment. Same for TV.

In print, at least, the spread is good and that’s before you start digging into more niche products like MB, Crikey, MamaMia etc.

The problem is not too much Murdoch. It is that the Fake Left (which champions globalism over national interest and Australians) and the Fake Right (which champions “business” rent-seekers over markets or liberalism) no longer talk to each other at all.

Kevin07 is only encouraging that.

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  1. “Fine. Bring it on. Just so long as while it examines the editorial biases of the Murdoch press, it equally examines the biases of The Guardian, ABC, SBS, as well as the corruption of journalism at Domain.

    That’s the thing, you see. It’s all well and good to call an RC into the media of your political opponents but what about your allies, who are equally biased?”

    Nothing more to say – you nailed it.

  2. ABC is completely biased to the LNP.
    Look at last weeks 7.30 report interview with Albo.
    They pander to the inner city greens voter with the Q&A stuff and then everything of substance they side with LNP.

    Plus no other organisation is making the country ungovernable like Murdoch is.

    • kierans777MEMBER

      Agreed. Look at how they handled the Somyurek branch stacking vs the Bastiaan/Sukkar stacking. 30mins on Insiders for Somyurek with denunciations of branch stacking and how it’s bad for democracy (it is). The Termite Crusher gets busted using a proxy for branch stacking and Insiders gives it 3 minutes. No questions about why The Age claims he endorsed Bastiaan’s plan, or anything. No questions have been put to any government minister on the issue on the ABC.

      • Sukkar is a good example.
        Pressure from the ABC, Murdoch etc. forced Labor to put the branch into Administration the next day. Lack of pressure from journalism means Sukkar is still in parliament.

      • Murdoch has completely subverted Anglo democracy for 30 years. Look at the merger of between journalism and politics. Tim Smith and Rachel, the Stutchburies, the Bolts. The point is the right wing has melded journalism with politics, completely suppressing any alternative views until the internet opened Pandoras box, for good and bad. Murdoch succeeded to find, develop and inoculate a small part of the english speaking world to its story, which is a parasitic anti climate, anti progress, big business neo liberal hyper capitalist bs. James Murdoch summed it very well last week.

        “I reached the conclusion that you can venerate a contest of ideas, if you will, and we all do and that’s important, but it shouldn’t be in a way that hides agendas. A contest of ideas shouldn’t be used to legitimise disinformation. And I think it’s often taken advantage of. And I think at great news organisations, the mission really should be to introduce fact to disperse doubt — not to sow doubt, to obscure fact, if you will.”

      • David …

        We have marched lock step with the U.S. on media due to business – market demands since Australia started buying their product and readership being reduced to marketing segments for targeted advertising.

        Journos on the other hand have become increasingly sourced from the offspring of the upper class and passed through what environment exists in university and how that shapes both their world views and mental palate, which considering where school was attended pretty much dictates where the widget gets placed in some cog.

        • Jumping jack flash

          Exactly.

          When news becomes a commodity you get boobs and pandering to your key demographic to sell ads.

          An RC is useless, it will simply show that private news companies need to make certain business decisions to stay competitive. There is no solution that can be found. It is very similar to the RC into the private banks.

          • I knew of some old boys, that have passed away now, that worked for the 3 private tv media stations and fondly reminisce about the junkets to the U.S. to buy programming – yanks always put on a big spread and lots of fun entertainment.

            So were right back to old Milgram and a can of Coke, but can’t do anything about it because of some dogma [packaged for your convenience of course] ….

        • Was surprised to see you were the only one to highlight that News are not balanced. Definitely leaning towards the LNP at the very least (still with boobs).

    • The ABC is dividing the country with constant reports about how certain ethnic or gender groups are “discriminated” against.

      They have a few good journalists left, but most are just useful idiots.

      • Virtually nobody pays attention to that stuff. It’s a small but vocal group who play the culture wars.
        Relentlessly campaigning that removing franking credits is theft from pensioners before an election has a real impact

    • The ABC is on the path of BBC which is to take it from a well funded public broadcaster with a bit of left wing bias, and gut and twist it to a right wing parrot and platform for conservative pollies. It’s not dead yet but it’s on the way, and it’s been an orchestrated campaign of many years to get to this point

  3. The BystanderMEMBER

    >The Guardian is the Labor propaganda sheet

    I’d say it leans heavily Greens, as does the ABC (since it’s a safer position to back than Labor, which would arouse the Coalition’s ire). But in general most of the ‘left’ leaning media and broadsheets are little more than spruikers for status quo of high immigration, low wages and no major reforms that might improve quality of life for people outside the inner city bubbles

  4. ABC is obsessed with trying to appear unbiased towards the three large political parties: Labour, Coalition and Greens.

    But it ends up being very biased on many other issues. For example it mostly ignores minor political parties. It also has multiple articles per day about women’s issues, but rarely publishes anything about men’s issues. I’m surprised that problem hasn’t received more complaints about bias. ABC is also biased in favour of mass immigration and urban over-development.

    A royal commission into 1 media outlet is ridiculous. There are now so many ways to get news that there is opportunity to get a different viewpoint if people want to.

  5. Totes BeWokeMEMBER

    Fairfax are the masters of deception. Pushing immigration and housing stimulus while appearing woke.

    Australians would embrace a RC into media IMO. It needs resetting.

    What we’d actually get is extreme wokester Ray Martin investigating the ABC for bias, and not exploring bias by OMISSION.

    LNP scam us, because we’re so easy to scam, and of course LNP and Labor are now exactly the same thing.

    • The90kwbeastMEMBER

      I would suggest from my own observations bias by omission is the greatest issue in our media landscape.

      Bias in what is reported is a much smaller issue, and very nearly a distraction in the scheme of things.

      If every story presented a FULL version of events rather than selectively presenting what suits a pre-set agenda, every news organization would be far more objective.

      • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

        So true. If any of the investigations into bias at the ABC included omission bias would be shown off the scale. If they considered the way issues were presented along with tone and body language it’d be off the scale.

        ABC is horrendously biased and should be reformed or defunded IMO. It just isn’t okay that the ABC, a publicly funded broadcaster are on the extreme left while the electorate is in the middle, literally by definition.

  6. Yeah but how much harm is the ABC doing via Fake News? Murdoch is a blight on society and is creating problems for future generations through climate change denial etc.. far more damaging than anything ABC supports. I signed Kevin’s petition fwiw.

  7. The public broadcasters are equally oriented more towards Labor than Liberal though less so than The Guardian. This is largely a function of the issues emanating from collapsing globalism – Chinese tyranny, mass immigration, climate change etc – than necessarily a tribal political bias. ABC is bad enough but SBS is nothing more than a migrant lobby and rent-seeker these days and should be shut down.

    LOL.

    The ABC has been corrupted by decades of LNP stacking. More oriented towards Labor ? When was the last time you watched some Leigh Sales interviews ?

      • The fantasy that there is a mostly even split between “left” and “right” (and therefore by definition a “sensible centre”) must be maintained at all costs !

        (When in reality pretty much the farthest “left” you get is some third-way neoliberalism-with-a-part-time-social-conscience and probably 2/3-3/4 of media is “right”.)

    • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

      I actually partially agree with you. I knew that day could happen.

      So why aren’t Labor demanding the ABC be investigated?

      The problem is ABC sell wokeness so Labor can’t attack them.

      One day you’ll put all this together and understand what you’ve helped happen to this country.

      You’re either a politician, a woke journalist and or with the ABC. I haven’t worked it out, but you’re invested, that I’m confident of.

      • Because Labor have become too polite and intimidated by Murdoch. Gillard launched the independent Finklestein inquiry which found rampant Murdoch bias against the ALP.
        And they were attacked for that inquiry. Imagine if they launched one into the national broadcaster.

        • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

          In my view Labor’s lack of spine is behind their downfall and will ultimately be behind Australia’s downfall.

          The government make the rules. The government can advertise and hold press conferences at will.

          Trump knows that. Labor doesn’t.

          Actually Labor can’t sell a narrative. They failed with MRRT, that says it all.

          They’re elites, meaning they’re both completely out of touch, and are horrifically conflicted.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            Skip, if Labor hadn’t changed we wouldn’t be in this mess. I’m not misreading the situation.

          • Modus ponendo ponens.

            Its not even basic logic to assert that what the right was already doing would have been limited if the left had not gone third way – too much polisci and history exclude such a deductive rationalization.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            BS skip. Labor were winning elections prior to them embracing immigration. When they’re in government they make the rules. When they’re in opposition, if there was a difference between the two, they keep the government honest.

            You’ve drunk too much academic coolaid.

          • Everything you just said is ex ante deductive posturing … the right has been doing the same thing for a long long time and before FDR the US democrats were just like now – FDR reformed the party only to have it rolled back by Clinton.

            Not that you would know, but back in the day lots of labour movement was due to immigrants from the Mediterranean region, local anglophone labour just copped it sweet and said – yes sir!

            So put it this way … your either having a discussion about economic rights or its just a bad case of oh look squirrel.

      • So why aren’t Labor demanding the ABC be investigated?

        Labor, like most of the “left” have operated for decades under the foolish and frequently disproven belief that compromise with Conservatives is possible, and that “facts matter”.

        Therefore, they try to find middle ground, win-win outcomes and rarely, if ever, “attack” either on ideological or moral grounds (ie: basically the complete opposite of Conservative politics, which is pretty much entirely about intuition, hierarchy and dominance). You can watch this happen time and time again, predictable as clockwork – workers rights, public services, privatisations, same sex marriage, blah, blah, blah.

        Since the media – and especially the media that matters – is largely controlled by Conservatives, when the “left” gets too uppity, they’re attacked by accusations of bias or (attempted) censorship. Then the ratcheting cycle repeats.

        This is why even if Labor do ever regain power, they will do little to wind back what the Liberals have done. Or, to use an obvious example, why we still talk about “believing in” Climate Change rather than understanding and addressing it.

        Running alongside this is the corruption and destruction of language to make rational discourse as difficult and unproductive as possible. “Political Correctness”“woke” being an obviously trendy example.

        You’re either a politician, a woke journalist and or with the ABC. I haven’t worked it out, but you’re invested, that I’m confident of.

        As usual, you’re wrong. I’m nobody but a bloke with an opinion on the internet.

        If you want to see someone who’s in either politics or media (or has been in the past, or wants to be in the future), I’d suggest focusing on Clive. Nearly every post he makes reads like a political speech or soundbite.

        • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

          While Labor are pro immigration no one’s listening. Their story doesn’t add up. It’s BS and everyone can see through it.

          I love Clive, and I won’t hear such slander. Clive is infinitely too smart and astute to be a grubby politician.

          Clive is a professor with integrity is my guess.

          • Lot of the royal we being deployed here without anything too substantiate it IMO.

            The idea that one issue is driving all political choices fails because firstly both parties are complicit and secondly because it does not effect everyone equally. Although the right has been banging that drum for a long time to keep its members fixated on a problem that the business lobby has pushed, it detracts from the actual agency behind the agenda and funnels the faithful right back into the trap.

          • PS. the right has a endless supply of suits and a few skirts to cop it on the chin one election cycle and be ready for the next. Either way they force the right faction of the left to keep one step behind them as they inevitably move farther right.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            You’re over thinking it skip.

            Party A gets enough votes then they make the rules. If Party A have become so incompetent, conflicted and corrupt they no longer match their constituents, they don’t win the election, nor make the rules.

          • Your seeking bias confirmation.

            The path was set decades ago and neither major party can deviate or stray far from the path or suffer the consequences, that’s why most of the frackus is all about identity stuff and not economic rights. It taboo to talk about the economic aspect unless its couched in TINA.

        • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

          “Conservative politics, which is pretty much entirely about intuition, hierarchy and dominance

          As opposed to the progressive left’s dogma, gender and race…. mention class nowadays and the “left” blush with embarrassment: “Class? How common.”

  8. A news service could be completely neutral , giving equal weighting to all stories based on importance and reporting unemotionally. However, when you have a media empire loaded with right wing opinion givers, toeing the same line, relentlessly focusing on negative stories about one side of politics and then failing to report on the other, it is going to appear that the neutral news service supports the left side of politics. Twisted reality.

  9. Was I dreaming yesterday or did former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull in his defence of the NSW Premier, say that many politicians are quote [my emphasis] “…..duplicitous [deceitful] , two faced and scheming”?
    And an admission like this from a former PM isnt news worthy? While this isnt really news to anyone, but surely an admission like that deserves more discussion.

  10. I’d like to work at SBS but being a white Anglo Saxon male I have no hope.
    Reckon if I put on a dress, heels, a BLM t-shirt and wave the rainbow flag might just do the trick.

  11. Salvatore Babones had an interesting take on the ABC. He was of the view that they were totally captured by their staff. Thus in Melbourne one hears on radio the presenters from North Fitzroy as if it is their private station. On Radio National one hears CNN and one would almost think one was in the US with Orange man bad. The greens get a very good run in Melbourne ABC. Chairman Dan had to wait until Sky News reported on his News Conference before he got a hard question. *00 deaths and no accountability. ABC total failure.

  12. I am amazed that so many here think the ABC biased towards the LNP. As with most things look at who attacks and who defends for where the bias is. The LNP seek to de-fund and the ALP always want to give more to “our ABC”.

    Seems pretty clear that the LNP expects it sides left and the ALP appear to agree ….

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