COVID-19 ravages Victorian healthcare workers

Yesterday it was announced that there were 381 active COVID-19 infections among Victorian healthcare workers, an increase of 81 on 24 July. And this doesn’t include hundreds on leave due to possible infection.

Doctors contend that inconsistent training in use of personal protective equipment (PPE) is contributing to the rise in infections, while the Victorian government has been attacked over its unwillingness to disclose how many healthcare workers have been infected in their workplace:

The head of the Australian Hospitals and Healthcare Association, Alison Verhoeven, says the pressures on hospitals and healthcare workers as they deal with the second wave of Covid-19 “has been immense”.

“Without strong community cooperation, our health services will be overwhelmed and the risks faced by healthcare workers will be even greater,” Verhoeven says. People need to adhere to public health directives to wear a mask, get tested and stay at home, she says, or health workers in the community risk being infected…

On Sunday the Victorian premier, Daniel Andrews, acknowledged the gravity of the situation. “Whenever we have clinical staff and other critical health workers away, furloughed because they are a close contact or in fact as an active case, that does put some additional pressure on our system,” he said…

This highlights why Melburnians must stay home as much as possible. And if you do leave the house, you must wear a mask, maintain physical distance, and wash and sanitise your hands.

Don’t add further strain to an already over-burdened medical system.

Leith van Onselen
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  1. how do U know this cant spread inside, like if the virus is airbourne and getting into ppl’s housing inside is the last place you wanna be

    this is getting ridic, you have almost no chance of dying from this unless you’re old/fat/really unhealthy anyway, just let it spread. trying to control this is like canute telling the tide not to come in, but at least canute was trying to make a point to his nobles that he can’t control nature and only god can; this is more like xerxes having the hellespont whipped for defying his attempt to cross it

    • almost no chance of dying from this unless you’re old/fat/really unhealthy anyway,

      Unfortunately, quite a few fit, slim, healthy younger people have died from this virus too, for idiosyncratic reasons, probably a genetic foible.

      Apart from dying, significant numbers of the “recovered” are experiencing long term problems, with the CDC saying that one-third of COVID-19 patients who aren’t hospitalized have long-term illness
      https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/monumental-acknowledgment-cdc-reports-long-term-covid-19-patients-n1234814

      Also called post-covid syndrome
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7320866/

      • Apart from dying, significant numbers of the “recovered” are experiencing long term problems.

        Yeah this is a big problem, I wish there was some data on what percentage of people are suffering effects long after the infection is cleared up. Over the coming years I guess we will get some numbers on this, but, the sooner the better. Healthcare costs could blow out significantly if it is a high percentage and if we can’t develop a vaccine or very effective treatment.

      • you are full of sh1t my dude, i remember you used to have a poo avatar on here well put it back bc nothing advertised the turgid alarmist bile that is your posts better than that did

        • Argue the facts, don’t play the man. Otherwise people will suspect —probably accurately— that you have no worthwhile argument. Having a hissy fit is not convincing.

    • you have almost no chance of dying from this

      Exactly.

      106-year-old woman has recovered from coronavirus

      113-year-old woman – believed to be the oldest woman in Spain – has recovered from the coronavirus

      106-year-old man recovers from Covid-19

      • Except if your one of hundreds of medical staff who have died despite being young and healthy. The risk of dying is 1 in 1000 for 20 to 50 year olds. Thats like driving with a blood alcohol of 0.2 while steering with you knees because your trying to shoot up.

  2. I really cannot believe we’re still having the same stupid PPE issues.

    Until there’s a vaccine, the hospital should look like a silicon wafer factory.

  3. Males are overwhelmingly in the lead for infections and this is not coming from nursing homes or healthcare workers.

    There were half a dozen – at least – tradies vans, along with cherry pickers, mulchers and chippies all down at the park today bumper to bumper. Looked really odd as it was next to the river in Ivanhoe – went down for a look and yup – all sitting around with their eskies out having lunch. Ten maybe fifteen ?

    Saw one building site with at least half the blokes wearing masks – that was good.

    The rest – nope.

    Victoria is going to hover around this rate of infection for months until we realise that we can’t just shut down “soft” and “white collar” industries.

    Can’t play sport – but we can work on a factory floor together.

    • They’re putting up townhouses at the end of the street and doing a knock-down rebuild a few doors down. In both cases everyone wears masks on site – carefully positioned to cover chin only – ensuring mouth and nose free to interact with the world.

  4. we had half a year to get extra hospital capacity, PPE, training and procedures in place to protect people in hospitals and aged care facilities but instead we were locking people down and cheering our great success via suppression/eradication strategies

    now, Vic failed as much as Italy that got surprised and didn’t have time to prepare

    • Pfh007.MEMBER

      The other states are managing to control infections without a lockdown.

      Must be just a Victorian (and Northern Italian) thing.

      Are you south of the Murray or North?

      • When it looked like things were quieting down, hospital bureaucrats cancelled a number of these projects and diverted equipment funding elsewhere. These were the same people who prevented doctors from bringing in their own masks and PPE on the grounds that it didn’t meet regulations.

      • The Royal Exhibition Building has an interesting history including being the first parliament, the Spanish flu clinic, a motorcycle speedway track and later a migrant hostel. I forsee these uses being applied to Jeff’s Shed.

    • Dont forget all the backslapping going on at hospitals about how wonderfully they have done – despite seeing sweet fa. number of cases.

  5. According to the latest update there are 245 Covid hospitalisations in Victoria. That seems like a really small number to be putting the state’s hospitals under pressure. Something doesn’t add up here…

    • Nope. That’s enough to bring the system to its knees. There are several hundred hospital staff now off sick with the virus and over 1000 in forced isolation due to exposure without adequate PPE (it’s important to make this point – if you’re wearing proper PPE when you’re exposed you don’t need to isolate).
      But the real problem is dealing with sCovid (suspected Covid). Any patient that presents with a symptom that may be due to Covid has to be treated as Covid until proven otherwise. That’s anyone with shortness of breath or a fever. Hospitals see a lot of shortness of breath and fevers. That means all of those patients have to treated with isolation and PPE. It’s extremely slow and resource intensive and a bigger burden than the actual Covid patients (for now).

    • There are 476 ICU beds in Victoria. A large portion of those would already be in use for non-COVID-19 patients. There might be room for about 200 patients in total, then you need to start deciding which people have to die.

      • ICUs in Melbourne and most of Australia have been mostly empty since March

        there is joke that if you really want to do nothing while being paid well become ICU doctor

        • Between the flu being stopped by social distancing, less traffic accidents and way less post surgical infections the ICU would be quiet for this time of year. Normally it’s close to capacity in winter.

      • Robert Johnson

        As soon as it became clear that you could treat patients just as well with nasal oxygen cannula and lying them prone, instead of a ventilator, the requirements for ICU decreased by about 50%. Building or buying ventilators was always dumb because the bottleneck was the nurses and doctors to intubate patients and monitor the ventilators, not the actual machines themselves.

        At this point any Western healthcare system can handle the surge from COVID. NYC and Italy was putting *everyone* on vents at the start. With proper knowledge Italy would have not run out of capacity at any hospitals and not been required to make any triage calls (which they only had to do for a few hours at a few hospitals).

        Ok, final backup, if we run out of healthcare capacity and someone dies because of it, pay their estate $10million in compensation. Much cheaper than our current approach.

  6. The only reason we haven’t lived in suburbia for 3 decades is my folks decided to follow a dream, and in 88 pulled my brother and I out of school for 6 months, went from 2 to half a wage and we traveled around Australia in a pop-up Jayco and a dome tent. It was an amazing time. Needless to say when we got back none of us could stand having people so close sothat was the end of suburban life for us. They ended up buying 2 acres in a small town just outside of Hellbourne. None of us could have forseen this pandemic but we are all so very bl00dy grateful we made that move in 89. It cost my parents, and Dad in particular, because the housing market then tanked and they had put us in a private school (for probably dumb reasons but you’ve gotta make some mistakes in life). Dad drove taxis for over 5 years to earn some extra money when it was verboten for primary school teachers to take on a second job. I feel for everyone who is in the process of getting smashed financially, but I’m also insanely glad that if we’re confined to our homes we actually have some space. It’s nice to walk outside and talk to the chooks when the mood strikes

      • They’re Isa Brown’s. We’d been thinking about resurecting the chook pen for a while and left it a bit too late in the early pandemic preparations (but the olds got in a trip to QLD to see rellies, which was probably more important) so we didn’t really have a choice in breed as all chooks on the east coast got sold out. We had to wait about 2 months before they were finally delivered (they were from NSW but it was difficult for the delivery runs to occur) and they were much younger than what we were told they would be, but we’ve just got eggs this past week!

        • The Isa Browns are part Rhode Island Red so they’re OK in my book.
          they were much younger than what we were told
          Yeh, they told you you would be getting adult layers, but they were pull[et]ing your leg.

  7. This highlights why Melburnians must stay home as much as possible. And if you do leave the house, you must wear a mask, maintain physical distance, and wash and sanitise your hands.
    all of these recommendations are based on assumption that virus is not airborne

    as the smoke finds a way from a neighbours’ house into yours, an airborne virus does as well

    • A few viral particles ain’t gonna do sh↑t.
      The average number of viral particles needed to establish an infection is known as the infectious dose. We don’t know what this is for covid-19 yet, but given how rapidly the disease is spreading, it is likely to be relatively low – in the region of a few hundred or thousand particles, says Willem van Schaik at the University of Birmingham, UK.

    • The virus lasts for about 10sec outside, but can infect people 20min after they have left an enclosed room. You really need to cut down the connections per family to break the chain and track fast enough.

      • The virus can last days on some surfaces
        On tiny particles none knows but one can gues at least few hours or days

    • Are you seriously suggesting that the virus can waft from my neighbour’s house, through the cracks around the windows, and into my house, and still be concentrated enough to be able to infect me?
      You’ve spouted some horseshit on these pages, but that really takes the cake.

  8. Issue is aged care workers l think, which the press have never digged into?
    Please dig and you’ll find mostly 3rd world originating people earning fk all.