80% of Australians agree Chinese travel ban must remain

The softening up for the rollback of virus-related border protections rolls on, via AFR:

The Morrison government will consider Thursday whether to start easing the travel ban on Chinese students amid warnings by health authorities that the crisis will run for several months more, prompting fears of a recession.

…Ahead of Thursday’s meeting of the National Security Committee, the Chief Medical Officer Brendan Murphy and his Australian Health Protection Principal Committee will look at relaxing the ban on students from China.

With the university sector among the hardest hit by the coronavirus, Professor Murphy said any relaxation would have to be “very gentle” and monitored by state medical authorities.

…The NSC is likely to extend the travel ban for another week when it meets today but, after considering Professor Murphy’s advice, may make exemptions for students.

If all Chinese schools remain shut why on earth would we open ours?

Meanwhile, at The Australian, the “dreaded reality is beginning to dawn” on ScoMo and Co:

The dreaded reality for Scott Morrison and Josh Frydenberg that the May budget may not deliver the “first surplus in a decade” is beginning to dawn.

Not the “dreaded reality” of thousands of dead elderly Australians as lapsed border controls sweep coronavirus into Australia in a homicidal attempt to reach a surplus:

The only responsible decision is to extend the bans for another month and NOT REVIEW them in between to silence the interests. The bans should be extended to wherever a material outbreak occurs.

To put it bluntly, Chinese data cannot be trusted, via Epoch Times:

The novel coronavirus outbreak in eastern China’s Shandong province is much worse than what has been officially reported, according to a series of internal government documents obtained by The Epoch Times.

Each day from Feb. 9 to Feb. 23, Shandong authorities underreported the number of infections, according to internal data compiled by the Shandong Centers for Disease Prevention and Control (CDC). The CDC kept a tally of the number of people who tested positive for the virus during nucleic acid testing—using a diagnostic kit to test patient samples and detect whether they contain the virus’s genetic sequence.

The CDC’s daily new infection numbers ranged from 1.36 times to 52 times greater than the officially published data by the Shandong health commission and China’s National Health Commission.

As of Feb. 25, the Shandong government stated that there were a total of 755 infections in the province. But the internal document showed that 1,992 people had tested positive for the virus via nucleic acid testing as of Feb. 23.

The government publicly stated that there were four newly diagnosed coronavirus patients on Feb. 22, but the internal document said that there were 61 positive tests that day.

In recent days, official data has shown new infections leveling off. For example, on Feb. 25, the National Health Commission reported only a total of nine new diagnosed cases outside of Hubei province, where the outbreak is most severe.

In fact, Shandong alone had new infections in the double-digits daily. On Feb. 20, new infections spiked, with 274 people testing positive.

To date, it’s the most definitive evidence that Chinese authorities routinely underreport cases. Previously, The Epoch Times interviewed workers at funeral homes in the city of Wuhan, the capital of Hubei, who said they had to work around the clock to keep up with the dramatic increase in workload.

Health experts have also hypothesized that Chinese official figures are inaccurate, based on their statistical modeling. Recently, a group of U.S. researchers published a study, not yet peer-reviewed, in which they suggested cumulative infections and deaths in China could be “substantially higher” than officially stated—by a factor of 5 to 10.

U.S.-based China commentator Tang Jingyuan told The Epoch Times that authorities reporting fewer infections is likely a tactic to convince Chinese citizens that the spread of the virus was contained and thus, it would be safe to return to work.

Chinese businesses were closed for the Lunar New Year holiday, which was extended in order to prevent cross-infection in the workplace. The central government, fearing the economic inactivity could have long-term ramifications, asked firms to resume operations on Feb. 10.

“It [Beijing] is trying to create an image that most of the country is safe enough to resume production,” Tang said.

The internal data shared with The Epoch Times includes a breakdown of diagnostic results from all 16 prefectural-level municipalities in Shandong province, which had been sent in an email to the disease control department of the Shandong health commission.

The Shandong CDC compiles daily statistical reports about coronavirus diagnoses, tallying positive test results at all hospitals in the province that were qualified to conduct such testing.

80% of Australians agree the border should remain shut:

There is also strong support (80%) for the travel ban that prevents Chinese visitors entering Australia, and only 20% say the border with China should remain open to protect revenue from tourism and overseas students. Both the Morrison government and the media get the thumbs up from the sample for managing the risks and reporting the latest developments.

What kind of psycho ignores this data?

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Comments

  1. Sir Psycho Smosocora

    If I had more time I can see some lyrics to the Red Hot Chili Peppers’ Sir Psycho S3xy

  2. A desperate one. One lacking imagination. One lacking sensible risk analysis abilities. One with a belief in the rapture. One lacking responsibility. One lacking backbone and therefore susceptible to pressure and influence (blackmail is included under influence). One driven by ideology. One lacking intellectual flexibility. One lacking anything approaching an ability to think independently, constructively and rationally (ie a very poorly educated one).
    Do i need to go on?

  3. >”What kind of psycho ignores this data?”
    The sorta psycho that relies on donations and lobbyists from university vice-chancellors, Hi-rise Harry and other developer mates.
    The sorta psycho who has a CCP agent called Gladys controlling his majority.

  4. It doesn’t matter if 2% or 99% of people want the borders to remain shut. To risk spread of the virus here is to willingly kill an unknown number of Australians!!! That’s just insane. MBs position is the only sensible and ethical one.

  5. I’m just thankful we are not at war. This is the kind of disconnected, corrupt and past it’s used by date ruling class that historically leads to humiliating defeats and massive unneeded casualties.

  6. 1 in 5 are aware that without chinese our economy is going to collapse and when that happens dying from corona is going to look like a heaven compared to starvation or mass suicides

    • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

      Better to face our reality now with 25m, still with some Australian owned businesses, farms and resources, than wait until we’re 50m people having sold the lot.

      Bring on the carnage. The sooner the better.

      If I have to raid the wealthy to feed my kids I’ll do it.

  7. GunnamattaMEMBER

    What kind of psycho ignores this data?

    – The kind of psycho who finds it difficult to avoid grabbing the hand and patting the back of someone who has told them they don’t want to shake their hand.
    – The kind of psycho who puts his arm around and grins manically with the leader he has promised his allegiance to, knowing he has eased his path to the top job
    – The kind of psycho who talks in tongues at his church
    – The kind of psycho who gets his jollies out of locking refugees on Neanderthal detention centres while ignoring the numerous visa overstayers flying in
    – The kind of psycho who looks the other way on foreign national buying Australian real estate illegally, and nobbling any attempt to gauge either the magnitude of the issue or any regulatory response
    – The kind of psycho who carries coal into parliament
    – The kind of psycho who likes a holiday in Hawaii during a bushfire outbreak in the country he leads

    Scotty from Marketing is that kind of psycho

  8. Thinking ahead, can we expect the Hospital Beds in Liberal Electorates (HOBILL) slush fund for the 2022 election.

    • lololol. Yes, that’s what it will be called, but just like the “Regional” name used in the sports rort it will not go there: Labor electorates.

  9. I partly accept the greed (although don’t like and agree with that) but if those mother fxckers bring that virus in because of money
    That’s fckn it, being poor is much better than sick

        • The irony being that those who are concerned about the virus won’t attend the mass gatherings required to make an effective protest

    • Wrong being poor is akin to being sick in this great nation. Ask Scotty from marketing. Poor people get special cards to use at the Grocery store, that’s how we know they are sick.

        • Can’t tell if serious or not? But there is poverty here. Perhaps not at the Third World living condition level, but still subpar for a developed nation.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            100% have access to food, medical and shelter.

            Very different to most of the world. Most of the western world.

            All Australians are embarrassingly wealthy by any measure compared to 99% of the rest of the world.

            But don’t worry, that’s going to change very quickly. For two core reasons.

            1 we don’t know how good we’ve got it, and are happily giving the whole lot away

            2. elites are exploiting 1.

          • Arthur Schopenhauer

            We are poorer than we were in the 1970s & 80s, if you measure access to housing & education. And the gap between the top 5% and the lowest 50% is historically high.

          • Poor Fellow My Country

            @Totes, true enough: unless you are a child living in Kaltukatjara, Yuendamu or Mutitjulu.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            The difference is, they have access to food, shelter and medical. Unlike other countries.

            Mental illness is at the core of the rest of the problems. Not money or lack of.

          • No, Rich.

            Not according to people who can’t afford to buy food.
            Not according to people who can’t afford to rent or get into emergency shelters.
            Not according to people who can’t afford medical payments or can’t get to bulk-billing doctors.

            So what you say is true in a hypothetical ideal-textbook-world sense, but complete bullsh!t in the harsh reality of lived experience.

            You must be a libertarian.

    • Did you watch Q&A on Monday? The Chinese govt representative was a perfect example of the standard CCP product. Definitely a hater of the west with a mindset constructed by party propaganda.

  10. Totes BeWokeMEMBER

    “80% of Australians agree Chinese travel ban must remain”

    0% of LNP , Labor, Greens, media and other elites, agree Chinese travel ban must remain.

    We need to vote to get our country back. Destroy LNP, Labor and Greens at the ballot box local, state and federal.

    • Want to act ?
      Here is something you can do right now.
      Phone the Scrotum , Health Minister Cvnt, and Albo and tell them to leave the travel bans from China in place.
      Suggest they put bans on any country that has virus getting out of control.
      Here are their phone contacts.
      Morrison parliament office; 02 62777700
      Electoral Office.; 02 95230339
      Greg Hunt ; Parliament Off; 02 62777220
      Electoral Office; 03 59779082
      Albanese ; Parliament Office; 02 62774022
      Electoral Office. ; 02 95643588

      • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

        They don’t give a fk. We’ll still vote for one or the other of the of the idiots. Either way, they’re millionaires.

        It needs breaking.

        • Yeah, how you gunna do dat ?
          You guys like you and Rich4 are all blow and no go.
          Of course Scummy and Cvnty and Albo don’t give a fvck about you, but tht’s not the point. The point is they like their jobs and want to keep them. They will bend to the wind of public opinion.
          The more calls they get the more they bend.
          Now get off your arse and start doing something.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            Do dat?

            Vote them out. Leave them last below the line. It’s the only way.

            You going to win this battle by pressure? What about all the others?

            They have to go. Nothing else will work.

          • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

            “all blow and no go”

            Getting momentum needs lots of people. Isn’t that exactly what you’re doing with your contacting them?

          • You guys like you and Rich4 are all blow and no go.

            There’s about a 99% chance that is Rich sockpuppeting again.

            Did his “real” account get banned again ?

  11. Totes BeWokeMEMBER

    Check out QandA from Monday night to see how far gone this country is.

    Hamish “for a first time on QandA, a representative from the Chinese government”

    Australian born Yat-Sen Li Chairman of Vantage Asia Holdings and Refugee Talent, investor and advisor….”open the gates”

  12. It will be quite ironic if the boomers that voted Scomo in to retain franking credit refunds and negative gearing end up contributing the bulk of the corpses piled up outside hospitals

    • Totes BeWokeMEMBER

      If 100% of Australians left Labor and Greens last, we wouldn’t have these problems. We’d have MP’s that actually oppose LNP.