Useful idiot Guy Rundle should apologise to Andrew Hastie

Poor old Guy Rundle’s world is falling apart:

Well, looks like we’re going to have to talk about China. Really talk about China. Much of the world, of Australia, and of the left respectively have avoided the conversation for years. But we could can’t do so anymore.

At the same time, we have to avoid being stampeded by a propaganda push by other interests. The bad China stories have come too suspiciously simultaneously to be accepted uninterrogated.

The two core charges that have surfaced are inter-related. Firstly, that a mass incarceration system in Xinjiang is racially based — around the Uyghurs — and extended to the virtual imprisonment of the entire population.

Secondly, that China’s oft-reported practice of taking transplant organs from executed criminals has been extended and reversed, so that religious and other minorities — the Uyghurs, Falun Gong, “house Christians” — are now being executed to supply both a private organ market and the needs of the elite.

Both accusations are ghastly enough. If they are in fact combined processes, we’re in another world entirely. The mass detention of Uyghurs and the hyper-control of everyday life in Xinjiang is so widely reported it seems impossible to deny, or believe that it has been wholly manufactured. Whatever spin there might be put on it seems irrelevant, given what is documented.

…If — if — it is true, then Jinping’s neo-Stalinism has evolved into something that combines the annihilating worst of the three major systems of modernity. The right can do what it likes; the global left needs to establish an international, independent commission to assess the evidence of what is occurring in these two areas, and their intertwining.

And if it proves to be the case then we must simply recognise the presence of radical evil on a mass scale and curse our prior lassitude — but not let it distract us from present action.

Jeez, hoocoodanode that communism would end inside a gulag? Let’s recall what a raving Rundle wrote in August when Andrew hastie called the CCP out for these very abuses:

Say what you like about the Chairman, but he had a phrase for every occasion. Andrew Hastie’s 1940 analogy of our position vis a vis China — the futile hope of its liberalisation serving as our “Maginot Line” — is either dopey or artful or both, but it serves to simultaneously focus attention on Hastie ahead of his 2024, or 2021 party leadership bid, and to try and make excuses for what is decades of failure by the right on developing an integrated foreign-relations/defence policy.

…Hastie’s story about the failed liberalisation of China is designed to offer a myth for the right, to pretend it had thought any of this through. Outside of the classical liberal hotzones — such as Catallaxy Files, the Mom’s-basement of what remains of the Oz blogosphere — no-one believed this for a second.

…Does Andrew Hastie believe the fairytale he played out? Quite possibly, given that he trotted out the usual myths about the post-World War II USSR needing to be “contained”. Except here’s the twist. Hastie and others object not to China’s military incursion — there aren’t any, no-one’s talking about putting Chinese missiles in Fiji, as we are talking about putting US missiles in Darwin — but China daring to invest in Africa and the Pacific.

…Hastie’s speech is more important as a symptom. Presented as some sort of break with a failed tradition of doublethink on the right, it is simply a continuation, a sign that they can’t think outside of their self-justifying myths, even when they can see the situation demands such. They remain caught up in every delusion of white-skin narcissism, the whole Western-exceptionalism-benevolent-imperialism melange from George W. Bush to Niall Ferguson to John Howard, to Tony Abbott.

Or maybe, just maybe, Rundle was writing as the useful idiot of the world’s most egregious tyranny.

To wit, at Domain:

Former ASIO boss Duncan Lewis has said the Chinese government is seeking to “take over” Australia’s political system through its “insidious” foreign interference operations.

Any person in political office was a potential target, he said, with the full impact perhaps not apparent for decades.

In a post-retirement interview, former ASIO boss Duncan Lewis said while it was not only China that preoccupied the Australian authorities, it was “overwhelmingly” China.

In the only interview Mr Lewis has given since retiring in September, he also urged Australia’s Chinese community to help security agencies in the same way local Muslim communities identified threats of terrorist activity.

Asked what the Chinese government wanted from Australia, Mr Lewis said: “They are trying to place themselves in a position of advantage.”

As well as targeting politicians, Chinese authorities were working to win influence in social, business and media circles, he said.

“I think there has been a blatant manipulation of the market to drive the price of Bellamy’s down,” Tasmanian independent MP Andrew Wilkie said.

“Espionage and foreign interference is insidious. Its effects might not present for decades and by that time it’s too late. You wake up one day and find decisions made in our country that are not in the interests of our country,” Mr Lewis said.

And, more:

Australia needs to consider banning the export of sophisticated technologies which could be used by China to boost its military and espionage activities, according to security experts.

The United States government is planning to restrict China’s access to certain types of emerging technologies which could include quantum computing, 3D manufacturing and an algorithm that guides artificial intelligence.

John Lee, analyst on China’s foreign and industrial policy, said Australia was “particularly exposed” to the US restrictions and the likely response from China.

In a new policy brief for the China Matters think tank, Mr Lee says Washington is pressuring its allies to join its efforts and Australia needs to respond.

You’re damn right we should, starting with our own universities which are involved in profiteeting from the above atrocities.

It’s not that Guy Rundle’s worldview has no merit. More that he is busy fighting his brothers instead of the barbarians climbing over the gate. As the great leftist historian Eric Hobsbawm wrote in The Age of Extremes, when socialism and capitalism conflict it is a civil war between enlightenment systems. But when they confront fascism (such as the CCP system), both are aligned in the fight against the pre-enlightenment powers of dark ages overlordship.

David Llewellyn-Smith
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  1. “Espionage and foreign interference is insidious. Its effects might not present for decades and by that time it’s too late. You wake up one day and find decisions made in our country that are not in the interests of our country,” Mr Lewis said.

    “Not only in politics but also in the community or in business. It takes over, basically, pulling the strings from offshore.”

    Odd how ex-ASIO boss Duncan Lewis only finds the courage to speak out on China after he’s left the powerful position and is retired.

    • He spoke out about generic foreign influence on our government while head of ASIO.
      I would imagine occupying such a position means observing diplomatic niceties and not publically calling out specific foreign governments and creating international incidents.
      That he has chosen to speak out now as a private citizen who occupied such a post and actually name China makes the China situation all the more alarming.

      • Cost IndexMEMBER

        Anyone high enough up the food chain in any career has sold or learnt to hide their ethics long ago. I can understand why, in many cases, things are only said when they resign/retire, not that I agree with that mind you.

      • Too true. I guess people like Ed Snowden are examples of what happens if you speak your mind too early in your career.

    • Wait until Professors start retiring from their existing jobs at out Unis and you’ll hear a bit more about the deleterious effects of the foreign student invasion on standards. Right now it’s all about career risk – shut up and get to the end without rocking the boat. Those final 5 or 10 years are critical for Super accumulation.

  2. You wake up one day and find decisions made in our country that are not in the interests of our country,” Mr Lewis said.
    Goodness I hope that situation never emerges in Straya.

    • TailorTrashMEMBER

      Yes like ……who the fcuk though it was a good idea to sell our children’s homes to citazens of China ?

  3. Cost IndexMEMBER

    Please outline H&H, how you can reconcile that the CCP is fascist not socialist. I’m all ears…

    • Not trying to speak for H&H, but I don’t really understand your question. I think your use of reconcile may be wrong, judging from the context. Suspect you may mean argue? Are you asking how the CCP can be accused of being facsist when it is self-avowedly socialist? (Answer, easy!). Or does the question mean something else?

    • Two answers to your questions:
      1. Gladys Liu
      2. Money – political donations on all levels of government.

  4. the global left needs to establish an international, independent commission to assess the evidence of what is occurring in these two areas, and their intertwining.

    Yes, we need to talk about it a bit, then get really angry and make nasty twitters about it.

  5. SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

    Guy Rundle: If reports about horrific human rights abuses under President Xi Jinping are accurate, then the global left needs to speak out

    …. WATCH OUT XI !!! the global left are going to …wait for it….speak out !!!!!

    oh jebus I reckon Xi has just shyt himself he is so scared of Guy Rundle

  6. The bad China stories have come too suspiciously simultaneously to be accepted uninterrogated.

    You don’t interrogate bad China stories. You consider them, or analyse them or assess them or some similar activity, but you don’t interrogate them. People who misuse “interrogate” in this manner are simply pretentious pseuds who are trying to make themselves look dynamic and windswept and interesting when they are not.

    Mr Rundle should stop pretending to have opinions worth interrogating and get back to doing something useful, like shaving his ar$e hairs.

    • When “journalists” became players in politics they appointed themselves to be the brokers of truth, integrity and virtue. Gone were the days when they reported “the facts” and allowed others an opinion. Guy Rundle and his ilk grew from the tectonic shift that brought us the likes of Innes Willox; journalistic butler turned spin doctor who had a hand in weaponising idiots like Dr Liz Allen to serve his masters. Innes and his mates stitched up the far and radical Left and captured those drunk on their own ideological Kool Aid. Not even now have they woken up to the woke nightmare they have helped create by telling everyone the monsters, opportunists and tyrants are victims and misunderstood good fairies.

      These days the journalist’s dream job is to be picked up as a political “advisor” or worker in a “media unit” with government where they help to “control the message”. They will do any amount of master pleasing and tugging to get there. It is also their route into politics.

      True, it is not correct to call this “fascistic” but it is most certainly Goebbelian. It is a massive failure in professional values that has seen a stampede towards propaganda for cash by weak minded (and largely uneducated) people who use journalism as a vehicle for ego and power. Guy Rundle’s problem is that once you attach your ideology and propaganda to “the facts” they become a shrine to your own bias and changing them means that you must dispose of one religion and pick up another – painful after you have bought all the robes and memorised the Psalms.

      Had one MSM icon stood and fought on the basis of integrity they would have emerged as its standard bearer. Not even the ABC has managed this. It is not a bonfire of the vanities but a slaughter field of journalistic integrity – what journalism? Our MSM media is just a propaganda arm for its funders or ideological faithful that employs cheap comment from low browed idiots with big mouths, big ideology and small capacity for shame.

      Guy Rundle…come on down…

      • TailorTrashMEMBER

        Nice Clive….Id like to see you published outside the pages of MB ….but not sure with your raw truths
        You’d last long …

    • blacktwin997MEMBER

      Spot on 🙂 So many of these pretentious cnuts at my work debasing respectable terms such as ‘lock and load’, ‘take point’ and ‘beachhead’ to describe nothing at all related to firearms, scouting or amphibious invasion. Although to be honest they do appear to be a collective of MBA’d anal bleaching enthusiasts so not entirely unexpected.

      On the plus side I’m convinced that these types have also infiltrated the Chinese military apparatus, what with the recent plethora of implausible bullsh!t such as quantum radar, practical portable railguns, surface laser assault rifles and artificial light-casting satellites so that you can read the latest propaganda leaflet while going for your night time constitutional in a regional area. Which sound like the sort of things that would emerge from a three-day workshop retreat or ‘reimagining’ event. If we’re inflicting western middle management practices on the Chinese as part of the process of letting them steal everything imaginative or performant from us then that at least sweetens the deal a little as far as i’m concerned.

      • @blacktwin
        ‘collective of MBA’d anal bleaching enthusiasts ‘
        Excellent summation of MBA grads. Have one in the family. Nauseating at though a foreign spirit has consumed her personality and now directs words & actions. Painful

        • blacktwin997MEMBER

          Hey billy, sorry to hear about your embedded MBA. You’re absolutely right – they sure do seem to lack any introspection or situational awareness.

          What on earth are you doing on MB at such an hour though? Looking to get the drop on first post?

  7. “Espionage and foreign interference is insidious. Its effects might not present for decades and by that time it’s too late. You wake up one day and find decisions made in our country that are not in the interests of our country,” Mr Lewis said.

    It’s called colonisation by demographic replacement.