Hong Kong fights for our freedom

Via the ABC:

Hong Kong police have warned violence is bringing the Chinese-ruled city to the “brink of total breakdown” after more street battles raged in several parts of the territory.

Police on Tuesday fired tear gas in the heart of the central financial district and at two university campuses to break up pro-democracy protests.

The clashes came a day after police shot a protester at close range and a man was doused with petrol and set on fire in some of the worst violence in the former British colony in decades.

A flash mob of more than 1,000 protesters, many wearing office clothes and face masks, rallied in Central for a second day during their lunch hour, blocking roads below some of the city’s tallest skyscrapers and most expensive real estate.

Crowds blocked traffic on two major roads, with half a dozen of Hong Kong’s famous trams lined up unable to move.

After the crowds dispersed, officers fired tear gas at the remaining protesters on old, narrow Pedder Street and made more than a dozen arrests.

He said masked “rioters” had committed “insane” acts, such as throwing trash, bicycles and other debris onto metro tracks and overhead power lines, paralysing the transport system.

He said the man set on fire on Monday was still in critical condition and appealed for information about who was responsible.

On Monday police officers fired volley after volley of tear gas in the central financial district, where some protesters blocked streets lined with banks and jewellery shops. Most had their shutters down.

Police also fired tear gas at City University in Kowloon Tong, beneath the Lion Rock, and at Chinese University on the other side of the mountain, where protesters threw petrol bombs and bricks at police.

Protesters at City University stockpiled bricks and petrol bombs on the bridges and other approaches and were making small devices with nails, apparently to puncture tyres.

Streets inside and outside the Chinese University campus entrance were littered with bricks, other debris and small street fires as police tackled some protesters to the ground.

A van used as part of a street barricade was set ablaze.

‘We need to protect our home’

The university said some people had broken into a storeroom and taken bows, arrows and javelins that were later retrieved.

Several people were injured, including a student reporter hit in the eye, apparently by a brick, who was sitting in tears as friends offered comfort.

Police also fired tear gas in the nearby new town of Tai Po, where protesters took shelter on the street behind umbrellas.

Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam said protesters were being extremely selfish and she hoped universities and schools would urge students not to take part in the demonstrations.

More than 260 people were arrested on Monday, police said, bringing the total number to more than 3,000 since the protests escalated in June.

Protesters are angry about what they see as police brutality and meddling by Beijing in the freedoms guaranteed under the “one country, two systems” formula put in place when the territory returned to China from British rule in 1997.

China denies interfering and has blamed Western countries including Britain and the United States for stirring up trouble.

The US on Monday condemned “unjustified use of deadly force” in Hong Kong and urged police and civilians alike to de-escalate the situation.

Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang urged Britain and the United States not to intrude, saying: “Hong Kong affairs are purely China’s internal affairs that allow no foreign interference.”

>He also told a briefing in Beijing that China’s Government firmly supported Ms Lam’s administration and the Hong Kong police “in law enforcement, maintaining social order and protecting the safety of citizens”.

More at HKFP:

Fresh clashes broke out at the Chinese University of Hong Kong after nightfall on Tuesday as the school’s top management failed to broker a deal between protesters and police.

After a lull in the afternoon, police fired tear gas shortly before 7:30pm at the No. 2 Bridge – a bridge at the edge of the Sha Tin-based campus which overlooks the Tolo Highway and MTR tracks. Police took the bridge after accusing protesters of throwing objects to obstruct traffic below.

"November 12" CUHK Chinese University of Hong Kong protest fire

In the ensuing clashes, CUHK Vice-chancellor Rocky Tuan and other senior executives were among those affected by tear gas.

The water cannon truck also made its first appearance at the CUHK campus, firing blue dye liquid at around 10pm.

Jeez, I wonder why we haven’t issued a travel alert?

Fight on HK. Fight to the last dying man. You can’t win but you can expose the Chinese Communist Party for the mobster thugs that they are, and force corrupt Western elites to think twice about their dealings with it.

I hate to say it, but the worse things get in Hong Kong, the better off global democracy will be as suspicions of the CCP skyrocket.

David Llewellyn-Smith

David Llewellyn-Smith is Chief Strategist at the MB Fund and MB Super. David is the founding publisher and editor of MacroBusiness and was the founding publisher and global economy editor of The Diplomat, the Asia Pacific’s leading geo-politics and economics portal.

He is also a former gold trader and economic commentator at The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age, the ABC and Business Spectator. He is the co-author of The Great Crash of 2008 with Ross Garnaut and was the editor of the second Garnaut Climate Change Review.

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Comments

  1. “Hong Kong affairs are purely China’s internal affairs that allow no foreign interference.”

    This is precisely what concerns me the most. They’re publicly saying they have the right to commit whatever atrocities they like as long as the stay within their own borders. Dark times indeed.

  2. Australia has already sold its freedom. There is a CCP agent controlling the majority party in parliament. The CCP has bought our last three foreign ministers. Our economy is dependent on Chinese buying our raw materials and houses.

    We are almost as dependent on China as Hong Kong, but unlike them, we are sheep who will give up for a few pieces of silver.
    Remember that on Armistice Day: our digger forefathers would be disgusted in our cowardice.

  3. The protesters need to research on the protest movement that succeed (India, Singapore, South Afruca, etc) vs the one that failed (Palestinian, Syria, Tiananmen Square, etc). Their action right now mimics those that ended in failure.

    It must be demonstrated that the protest is controllable and will stop if the demand is met. Without that guarantee they’re just a bunch of anarchists.

    • Ronin, I hate to say no matter what the HKers do in HK, its not going to affect those people in the core of power in Beijing. At least not until ALL international investments pull out of China.

      • HK is the prototype for reunification with Taiwan. If the HK model fails, ‘One China’ cannot be achieved peacefully, if at all.

    • Maybe, maybe not.
      https://www.history.com/topics/vietnam-war/vietnam-war-history
      “With training and equipment from American military and the CIA, Diem’s security forces cracked down on Viet Minh sympathizers in the south, whom he derisively called Viet Cong (or Vietnamese Communist), arresting some 100,000 people, many of whom were brutally tortured and executed.
      By 1957, the Viet Cong and other opponents of Diem’s repressive regime began fighting back with attacks on government officials and other targets, and by 1959 they had begun engaging the South Vietnamese army in firefights.”

      It depends on how far they really want to push it.

      • The successful protest movement have membership and leadership. The HK youth need to build up their own civil society, otherwise their goal of universal suffrage cannot succeed.

        • Dude…no idea on the dynamics up here…leadership means jail, ever heard of J-oshua won-g?…he has been denied the right to stand for a govt seat…this is what they do!…wake up and read something else other than aus papers.

          • It’ll be a long hard slog. Ghandi went to jail many times, and Nelson Mandela went to jail for 27 years!!

            I did read about Jouhua Wong : and he is doing exactly the right thing. The CCP banning him from running in the meaningless election raises his profile and also demonstrate how broken the system currently is. He even got a positive article published about him on SCMP, which is the CCP mouthpiece.

            https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3036120/hong-kong-authorities-made-arbitrary-decision-pro-democracy

            He knows the ‘red line’ that can’t be crossed and stays away from it. What he is doing is far more effective than stopping traffic in peak hour, vandalizing MTR stations and setting people on fire.

  4. Chairman MeowMEMBER

    ” You can’t win but you can expose the Chinese Communist Party for the mobster thugs that they are, and force corrupt Western elites to think twice about their dealings with it.”
    Ha-haaaa! Meanwhile the USA has just pulled off another coup in Bolivia but, those evil Chinese….

    • You are getting the people and the government mixed up. The point is, that in the American case, they have a charter and a belief in freedom and liberty that allows for the people to keep the government mostly in check. That doesn’t mean the government will never do bad things, it just means they are held back from the worst excesses.

      In China there is no such beliefs. No such charter. In fact, it is the opposite. The CCP are all about suppression of information and other totalitarian measures without anything to contain them. There is nothing that the people can point at that says that they should be allowed freedom and the government shouldn’t have control over them.

      • Mike, please look at USA history before speaking. Try not to judge USA based on hollywood/ CNN/ Foxx it is all fabricated propaganda. The government has 16, that’s right 16 separate agencies to prevent the people from rising up against the elitist tyranny. The constitution does not allow USA to bomb countries without senate approval, which means a vote by the people’s representatives. The deep state and generals decide who to attack which is illegal and if prosecuted anyone involved is a war criminal under USA law.

        Bolivia coup orchestrated by the CIA was done because the Bolivian government socialised the mining/ oil industry disallowing USA to control. Bolivia also has a massive lithium resource which may become the new oil. This is probably the reason USA inserted their puppet into government.

  5. The low turnout is mainly caused by the virtual curfew imposed in HK and the Ultraviolence committed by the police force.

  6. Cambodia’s last chance of democracy is about to play out, with the exiled opposition leader trying to return home to challenge the longest running (current) dictator. China’s push into the region has upset other Asian nations (Vietnam), with Hun Sen happy to accept dirty Chinese cash. Support democracy, no one wants a commie state

  7. I think the fact that this is being maintained for so long shows that the American security services are involved on some level. I used to be very critical of that kind of interference, but in HK’s case, find myself cheering it on. I maintain the position that with technology advancing the way it is, there is no place in the world for a communist dictatorship.

    It’s interesting that North Korea have been willing to talk on at least one occasion. Maybe they can see the writing on the wall, that their great patron, the CCP, may not be around forever.

  8. More than 50% of the HK population are still protesting.

    The point is they never want to ‘return to business’.

    This is cultural divergence, a point where they say “we no longer have enough in common to come to consensus”, and vast majority of the Hong Kong people are saying “we do not want to be governed by you”

    That’s called collaboration, its on a watch list for you.

    • SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

      poor Ronald must have gotten off at the wrong stop……

      A flash mob of more than 1,000 protesters, many wearing office clothes and face masks, rallied in Central for a second day during their lunch hour, blocking roads below some of the city’s tallest skyscrapers and most expensive real estate.

    • “At present narrative seems lost.”

      WRONG – At present narrative seems consistent, hence the longevity of the protest.

      “Numbers small.”

      WRONG – 24th weekend in a row, still over 100,000 protestors.

      “Anecdotally many in HK have had enough.”

      WRONG – They’re already organising next weekend

      “The protesters need another mass rally to show the world it is still a widespread influential movement and not going the way of Occupy etc.”

      WRONG – 25th weekend protest occurring soon!

      “Ronald sacrificed his lunchtime to join the protest in a Hong Kong park. He quivered at the prospect of communing with hundreds of like-minded office workers stirred by the organizers’ rallying cry, “Revolution is a duty!” He was on time. He was wearing a new black face mask. He was fired up. He was ready.

      He was also utterly alone.“”

      Also, (AP) Hillary Clinton has a 99.3% chance of winning the presidency.

      When you read fake news, you’ll end up being WRONG.

      Seriously, do you wake up every morning and say to yourself “How am I going to be wrong today?”

      • SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

        did you just ask “what are they protesting?”

        this really is a parody account isn’t it – funny stuff

      • “If they get one million or more on the streets I might be persuaded.”

        I don’t think “convincing an Australian who is a traitor to his own country” is on their goals of persuasion.

        “A one thousand strong flash mob doesn’t cut it. Even if they get 100,000 it’s still one tenth of original numbers.”

        Talking about cutting off heads, how many stormed the Bastille?

        “What are they protesting? The offending Bill has been withdrawn. Yesterday it was suggested here the high cost of housing was part of ambit of protesters – is it this?”

        No, they’re saying “Beijing, the original bill was so insulting, so out of touch with who we are as a people, you’ve proven yourself no longer capable of being in a position of governance over us.”

        Quite frankly, to think anything else is placing an entitlement upon Beijing they do not deserve.

  9. “I hate to say it, but the worse things get in Hong Kong, the better off global democracy will be as suspicions of the CCP skyrocket.”

    Talk about a real white privilege.

    Not some fictitious nonsense about unconscious bias or the like, but a foreign people’s with real skin in the game.

    Were too stupid, lazy, selfish, decadent and femine to watch China and conclude this. We need the corpses of yellow men to price it?

    If that’s what we need, we don’t deserve to be moved out of harms way.