GetUp versus Advance destroys Australian politics

Tribalism is the bane of Australian progress. It is the default position for a populist Australian psychology that is always far more ready to adopt partisanship over national interest or even ideology. To wit, at The Guardian:

While national politics frets about its trust crisis, the bulk of Australian voters appear reasonably sanguine with both of the major parties five months on from the federal election, with more than 60% of the Guardian Essential sample rating the performance of the Coalition and Labor as excellent, good or fair.

The latest survey of 1,088 respondents shows 63% are positive about the Coalition’s performance post-election and 62% say the same about Labor, although Coalition voters are more positive about the government than Labor voters are about Labor, with 93% of Coalition voters affirming the government and 83% of Labor voters affirming the opposition.

We currently have the worst politicians of my lifetime, and probably all time, but folks just don’t care so long as they wear the right tie.

This maddening tribalism is no more on display than in the two party’s spun out propaganda outfits, GetUp and Advance. Each is at it today, GetUp via Domain:

Activist group GetUp will escalate its fight with Prime Minister Scott Morrison by accusing him of being an “authoritarian populist” who tries to shut down his critics, naming three campaign priorities to take on his government.

Branding the Prime Minister as a “lite” version of United States President Donald Trump, the group will redouble its campaigning on climate change with the help of donations flowing in at a rate of more than $12 million a year.

GetUp national director Paul Oosting will paint Mr Morrison as a copy of populist leaders overseas who cannot take criticism, citing the Prime Minister’s speech in August when he blamed the activist group for “bullying” opponents.

That’s the best GetUp has got? No mention of wages growth; rising youth unemployment; housing affordability; energy crisis; crush-loading and falling living standards; university corruption; CCP and corporate political corruption; Budget unfairness; freedom of speech, etc, etc, etc. Just “Trump”.

Then we swing over to Advance at The Australian:

The new voice of Australia’s conservative movement has vowed to go after radical left-wing groups in a national campaign against “clim­ate alarmists”, after accusing members of activist group Extinction Rebel­lion of being criminals who pose a menace to society.

Liz Storer, a 36-year-old former Liberal councillor and ministerial adviser, will be announced on Wednesday as the new national director of ­centre-right campaign machine Advance Australia, which has positione­d itself as the political counter to GetUp.

But Ms Storer said while GetUp was on her radar, her first campaign­ would be aimed at Extinctio­n Rebellion, which has risen from obscurity to promin­ence in the past week by closing down traffic in the CBDs of Brisbane and Melbourne.

…“They are a menace to society … We saw last week the Victorian police saying they had to stop ­normal policing to deal with them. ER are proving to be the real crim­inals …. Gluing themselves to streets (and) hanging from ­bridges.”

Again, no mention of wages growth; rising youth unemployment; housing affordability; energy crisis; crush-loading and falling living standards; university corruption; CCP and corporate political corruption; Budget unfairness; freedom of speech, etc, etc, etc. Just “scum”.

There’s no argument, no engagement, no identifiable ideology even. It’s just red versus blue or idiot versus moron. It’s a giant distraction that won’t even progress the one issue that they do bother to mention in climate change. How can it when neither message is crafted to create, support and influence an independent centre?

These dills have turned the entire process of policy formation for national interest into a personality disordered, reality TV version of same that changes absolutely nothing.

Comments

  1. I’d agree these are the worse politicians ever. None have a clue or even care about the country. It’s all bread and circuses whilst selling the country off to their mates or the Chinese. It’s utterly disgraceful.

    • Jumping jack flash

      This.
      A travesty.
      However, everyone is enslaved by debt and needs to repay it all plus interest.

      Pollies can get away with anything because:
      1 they don’t do anything substantial now because they’ve outsourced all their responsibilities, all thats left is pandering to left wing ideologies and keeping the debt ponzi alive. (This is also why Labor is having such a hard time staying relevant)

      2 everyone is too busy repaying debt to notice or care what they do. As long as they have their subscription tv between shifts and resonably priced food they’re all good.

  2. We need a brutal recession – when people cannot afford to feed themselves and they’ve lost those well-paid jobs they never deserved in the first place, the navel-gazing, the myopic social justice cheerleading, the soy lattes, the virtue signalling, all of this will disappear up their fundament and citizens will once again discuss issues of substance.

    And I will laugh and poke fingers at these morons.

    • Agreed Dominic, but lets target the halfwits across both sides of the political spectrum. If we only flush out the turds on the left our right side of politics will still be filled with floating blobs of sh!t. A broad double flush is required.

    • Know IdeaMEMBER

      While the cause you have indicated is indeed an unfortunate one, it is difficult to conceive of anything else that would have any real chance of lifting society’s sole focus from the materialistic to at least include the common good.

      • It takes a while to shift mindsets but I’m pretty certain it’ll happen.

        Ask yourself why modern, middle-class house-wives talk such garbage all the time – they literally have nothing to worry about or do with their time except go to the gym, shag the tennis coach and gossip with their equally vacuous mates. A bit of hardship will soon put an end to that way of life. 😉

        • Jumping jack flash

          It took about 30 years or maybe a bit more to change attitudes to debt. Probably coupled with the abolition of nationalised banking and the introduction of central banks. The “stupiding” of our leaders also helped.

        • “they literally have nothing to worry about or do with their time except go to the gym, shag the tennis coach and gossip with their equally vacuous mates”

          Amanda De Santa ?

  3. SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

    whats depressing is that these well funded groups have probably each done enough research and focus groups etc in order to come to the conclusion that Australians are simply too stupid to take any notice of anything real ….

    • Yes.

      Actually they are not interested in winning the debate. They want to raise funds. They way to do that is appeal to your hard core (the kinds of rabid people who will donate) – not the average citizen who can spot a dumpster fire from a mile off.

      So they deliberately polarise and provoke.

      D!ckheads.

    • Yep, it is similar to the One Nation business model. Be perpetually outraged and say there are problems and people will vote for you (if you are ON) or give you donations if you are GetUp and now apparently Advance.

      • Jason, there is plenty to be outraged about.
        Arrow, I disagree with you.

        The reason Get Up gets funding from the Australian people is because they don’t like what their elected officials are doing and its the only venue to express their displeasure.

  4. We currently have the worst politicians of my lifetime, and probably all time, but folks just don’t care so long as they wear the right tie.

    100% absolutely right

    • Know IdeaMEMBER

      I have a dream that our politicians will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their tie but by the content of their character.

      With obvious apologies to Martin Luther King.

    • No need to wear the right tie, just fast forward to the corporate sponsorship logos on their outfits as depicted in Idiocracy.

  5. “Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage”

    Ambrose Bierce, American journalist 1842-1914

    It does not seem that much has changed over the decades, it’s just the speed and intensity of the political effluence that flows out of the online channels that creates the impression of bigger corruption.

  6. “These dills have turned the entire process of policy formation for national interest into a personality disordered, reality TV version of same that changes absolutely nothing.”
    With globalists there can never be a national interest because they don’t believe in the nation.

  7. Its disgraceful that these non-productive propaganda outfits are sucking the oxygen out of real debate and our democracy.

    • Lol! Oh you sweet innocent thing, as if “real debate” is going to happen in this country.

  8. GetUp has been deluded for years.

    In 2013, Simon Sheik thought that he could win a seat and threw his hat in the ring.

    In 2019, they decided to spend all their efforts on ensuring that Tony Abbott loses his seat – instead of spending all their efforts on actually winning the election.

    Guess what happened? GetUp won the battle but lost the war – Abbott lost his seat but Scummo won the election.

  9. LOL. Speaking of “partisanship”…

    That’s the best GetUp has got? No mention of wages growth; rising youth unemployment; housing affordability; energy crisis; crush-loading and falling living standards; university corruption; CCP and corporate political corruption; Budget unfairness; freedom of speech, etc, etc, etc. Just “Trump”.

    It takes a couple of minutes at getup.org.au to see the campaigns they have on the go. Which certainly seem (I only clicked on a few) to have “argument, engagement and identifiable ideology” behind them (and none of which have “Trump” in their summary, it’s worth noting).

    The contrast to https://www.advanceaustralia.org.au, where it looks like pretty much every campaign is defined around opposing change and anything perceived as “the left”, is stark.

    • Look at their twitter feed.

      5 hours ago

      Democracy everywhere is under attack from right-wing authoritarian populists who divide their countries into ‘us versus them’ and then try to silence their opponents. From the U.S. to the Philippines, from the U.K. to Brazil.

      https://twitter.com/GetUp/status/1184284922388680704

      Bolsonaro is an evil psychopath who has jailed the leader of the opposition. But the fake Labor government in QLD has recently banned protesting! And when is the fake left going to put a tax on red meat to try and stop deforestation.

      14 Oct 2019

      Morrison Govt’s “back on track economy” = 5 million people going hungry

      https://twitter.com/GetUp/status/1183982291678162944

      Why do the fake left state governments not put in a food guarantee. Even the right wing shock jock Nick McCallum wants Aussie kids to be given free food at school and he says free food was given to school kids in the 1960s.

      • Jumping jack flash

        What exactly is “Right wing” and who practices it in this country? I’d hardly call Morrison the epitome of right ideology. Not even close. He’s no despot and there’s no totalitarianism. He was elected. He’s legalised gay marriage ffs!! Plenty of secular “right wing” countries have none of this.

        This is why Labor are having such a hard time. They were traditional left and libs were traditional right but now in this globalised world we see that our left and right are simply left and left with slightly different flavours.

        • For many ‘centre Left’ people today anyone to the right of Trotsky in an extreme right wing, fascist, nazi. Even under Stalin it wasn’t’ real commumism’.

        • I see what you’re saying, but it’s worth pointing out that Morrison absolutely did not legalise gay marriage. Malcolm Turnbull was the prime minister when that was passed through parliament. And, despite the overwhelming victory of the ‘Yes’ postal vote, Morrison chose to abstain from voting for the bill in parliament.

          • Scummo abstained from voting for that and now Jumping jack flash says Scummo is a hero!

            What a joke.

            Scummo was also against the banking royal commission and I guess JJF will call Scummo a hero for that too!

  10. 63% approve? That’s actually absolutely horrifying… It’s terrible that our country is so politically ignorant…

  11. Jumping jack flash

    These outrage groups are inherently ideological and populist as well. If they weren’t nobody would give them money.
    Nothing stirs up the masses like the mention of Trump, so they do. It’s either Trump or Hitler these days and Hitler is too passe.

    If any of these populist outrage groups were to start talking technical about the economy and solutions, then people’s eyes would glaze over and they wouldn’t get the money. Better to keep it short and punchy and populist.

    Besides, pointing out flaws is so much easier than thinking up and suggesting solutions. These guys are all people, the product of the standardised education system. They all think the same way and are bound by the same limitations. For them to come up with solutions is beyond them.

    Our politicians are the same. They haven’t thought up a solution for the past 20 years other than push everything to the private sector to fix.

    Private sector is also made up of people so they’re no better but the advantage is the government stops needing to care and it reduces the amount of negative exposure and fodder for the opposition to hold them to account.

    Look at the state of the economy, Josh and the RBA. He’s got nothing, he’s pushed all responsibility to the RBA so now they’re the ones who need to find the solutions. RBA can’t find solutions but Government does nothing and comes out looking awesome because all they need to say is “Bad RBA, bad banks, bad, bad!” And their job’s done.

  12. I’m disappointed in this article because HnH is putting Get Up in the role of the opposition party.

    Get Up is not the opposition political party, it is a community group of mainly pissed off aussies who are outraged by the crap the government pulls and the opposition often supports.

    What Australia really needs is for Labor to do its damn job and stand for something, rather than being the Liberals in a red tie.
    If we had a decent opposition Get Up would quietly fade away.

    • I’m disappointed in this article because HnH is putting Get Up in the role of the opposition party.

      The other reason to be disappointed is because it’s playing the “they’re as bad as each other” false equivalence fallacy.

      As I said above, you don’t have to spend much time on their respective websites to figure out how stupid that suggestion is.