ANZAC Day special: Can Labor be trusted to defend Australia?

ANZAC Day is here again. The day that the nation celebrates, or pays homage to, those that have died in military service to Australia. They include my dad, who served on Bougainville Island in WWII as Japanese imperialist expansion threatened to end a young Australian democracy.

I have been fortunate to live through a hiatus in such national service histories. There has never been a call for me to fight or go to war thanks to a world order dominated by the United States, the liberal empire which defeated Japanese imperialism in the Pacific and installed instead a regional, as well as global system of liberal democracies that, by and large, are free.

Owing to that good fortune, as a country we have taken this profound gift for granted ever since. There have been times when we’ve contributed the blood of our young men to that cause. Often it has been for dubious benefit and ends, in Vietnam and Iraq for instance. I was too young for the former and protested vigorously against the latter. One reason was because the wars made no sense in and of themselves. But the other was because they weakened the United States. They were bad ideas that undermined the liberal empire that surrounds and protects us.

Today we, as a nation, face a challenge to that system every bit as profound. It is not a shooting war that threatens Australian freedom but something more insidious and difficult to fight. It is the rise of an alternative system of government that buys its enemies and reproduces them in its own mold by stealth. I am of course referring to Chinese Communism (and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)).

Readers will know that MB has been a hawkish commentator on the encroachment of Chinese “sharp power” upon Australia. This has nothing whatsoever to do with ethnicity or race. It has everything to do with a system of government that has tried to bribe, cajole and coerce policy changes in Australia.

It is, nonetheless, incontrovertible that this secret battle is joined. In recent years Australia has seen waves of Chinese agents of influence almost succeed in upending our parliament. Our institutions have held and we have pushed back. Thanks to a few brave individuals in the academy and media, as well as a prime minister that has although hapless on policy at least turned out to be a strong patriot in Malcolm Turnbull.

For now the danger has passed with a swing in the normatives that govern political behaviour away from CCP fraternisation. Most that led the way into CCP positions of influence have disappeared one way or another.

But it is not gone. The Victorian Government continues to operate in some bizarre Chinese bubble. Huge business interests are utterly dependent upon a Chinese bid. The tertiary sector is horribly addicted to Chinese business in conjunction with a toxic open borders ideology that is churning out graduates of racism phobia blind to all other historical risks. Select senior individuals in our press are bought and paid for by CCP sympathetic interests. China itself has ratcheted the pressure by using our own resource dependence against us in limiting coal imports.

So, today, on ANZAC Day, with an election looming and Labor very likely to win, it’s time we ask the really hard question of what that will mean to this quiet war. Will Labor continue the push back of Malcolm Turnbull towards an independent and free Australia that defends the inheritance of a US-led liberal empire?

On one level the answer is yes. Our defense and intelligence services are very integrated with the American hegemon. Labor has little choice but to follow the dictates of Washington on such issues as Chinese trade cheating, multilateral defense posturing, freedom of navigation in the region, militarisation of the Pacific etc.

But on other levels the nation has not yet gotten the message. In particular, Labor appears wedded to dated notions of Asian utopias. By that I mean it is still operating on a model of foreign and strategic policy that dates from the nineteen eighties with little sign of that changing. To wit, let’s start from the top on how the incoming Prime Minister Shorten views China. Recently he appeared on a Chinese chat room:

Bill Shorten has made a dramatic move to win back support from Chinese-Australian voters following last week’s disastrous NSW election defeat, declaring Labor is not a racist party and that he welcomes the rise of China as a global power.

In a group chat with nearly 500 Chinese-speaking voters on the WeChat Live social media service — the first by an Australian ­political leader — Mr Shorten said yesterday that Labor would make it easier for ­immigrant families to get visas for ageing ­parents, and highlighted the governme­nt’s past attempt to ­introduce a university-level ­lang­uage test for would-be ­citizens.

Days after intervening to blast out Michael Daley as NSW Labor leader following his damaging anti-Asian comments, the Opposition Leader told Chinese-­Australian voters that “racism from anyone is unacceptable”.

…“America will always be importan­t to the security for Australia, but if I am prime minister I welcome the rise of China in the world,’’ he said. “I don’t see … China as a strategic threat. I see it as a strategic opportunity. What I want to see is greater mutual understanding ­between all of us.”

While we should see this statement in the context of an election, rather than a declaration of foreign policy, it is obvious that Bill Shorten sees the local Chinese community as, at least in part, an offshoot of China, to which he pays homage.

But, contrary to Shorten’s soothing words, China is a strategic rival, not just to the United States but the entire liberal democratic model of government. Intrinsically, then, Bill Shorten is also signalling his comfort with the CCP which explicitly claims the loyalty of its diaspora.

This is not a statement of race but of political orientation. Six hundred thousand Chinese have emigrated to Australia in the last decade with many more in the offing. How does this community sit with Australia sustaining its democracy when the mother country is hostile to it? How will Labor manage such a community as it grows versus the national interest of protecting Australian democracy? I don’t know and I don’t think that Bill Shorten has a clue, either.

The inner circle of Labor’s looming Cabinet is also in question. Shadow Foreign Minister Penny Wong also appeared on Chinese chat sites yesterday:

Penny Wong has taken to Wechat for a Q&A, along with Labor candidate for Banks Chris Gambian.

On 5G, Ms Wong said Labor would continue to take the advice of the national agencies.

She also said her party will engage with Beijing’s One Belt, One Road initiative on a “case-by-case basis and according to our national interests”.

But she raised a caution: “It is important that countries not be saddled with unsustainable debt”.

Most of the conversation revolved around questions of identity.

Ms Wong criticised discrimination against Chinese-Australians and repeated her claim that the Coalition should preference “extremists” like Pauline Hanson and Fraser Anning last.

All reasonable stuff. But she also said the following among similar points in a major recent speech:

And what kind of region do we want? We want a region where the system of rules and institutions are the basis for collective action. We want a region where those seeking to shape and make the rules do so through negotiation not through imposing their will on others. We want a region where differences and disputes are resolved through internationally-agreed frameworks. We want a region where economic prosperity is based on a free and open trading system and investment transparency. We want a region where outcomes are not determined only by power. And, as President Macron put succinctly during his recent visit, none of us want a region that is characterised by hegemony.

Ms Wong may want multilateral outcomes. But that’s not the world we live in. We live in a regional hegemony guaranteed by the US liberal empire. Is Shadow Minister Wong calling for an end to it? If so, it won’t be replaced by some fanciful regional collective flower show. It will replaced by Chinese hegemony. This is not really anything to do with China. It’s simply what great powers do. They reach out and influence in their interests. We’ve been lucky to live through a period when that power projection has been exercised by a great power governed by a liberal regime. In China’s version it will be an illiberal empire with its interest imposed through the corruption of local elites to its interests. Democracy will most assuredly be the loser.

Recall as well what Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen said about his vision for Australia last year:

…Although an optimist, he nominates two future risks for Australia: populist sentiment and house­hold debt…He says globalisation “is here to stay” and “has benefited Australia for the past 26 years”. The policy response must ensure programs are in place to assist anybody hurt by change through trade or automation to upskill, to change industries and commit to lifelong learning.

…How does Bowen see the instruments of future economic growth? He nominates infrastructure investment, the NBN, investment in schools, vocational education and training, universities and growing Asianisation of the culture. The rhetorical emphasis is on human capital investment much more than market-based micro-economic reform.

What does “Asianisation” mean in this day and age? At minimum it means the continuation of a mass immigration program that biases entrants from Asia (with a heavy focus on China). That will again increase CCP influence. Will our institutions be able to stand up to these pressures again and again?

Now, take this week’s announcement of Labor’s new parental visa program:

Labor has revealed its proposed three- and five-year sponsored parents’ visas would cost $1250 and $2500 per entrant — a quarter of the cost of the Coalition’s parents’ visas — and would be available to an unlimited number of applicants.

Labor would also allow a single household to sponsor up to four parents at a time — compared with two under the Coalition — and enable visa-holders to renew their visa in Australia for a second three- or five-year term…

Demographers warned that the backlog of 97,000 ­applicants for permanent parents’ visas could be expected to apply under Labor’s policy, unleashing a 1980s-level surge in migration that would place additional strain on cities and ­services…

And the selling of it:

The ALP yesterday promoted its policy heavily on the popular Chinese social media service, WeChat, inviting Chinese-Australian voters to compare the plan with the Coalition’s offering.

It described the Coalition parents’ visa as “temporary” and “unfair”, accusing the Morrison government of “breaking a promise” to migrant voters by restricting the number of parents who could be sponsored per household.

However, some WeChat users questioned the ability of a single household to sponsor four parents.

There is no basis upon which this policy is defensible for incumbent Australian residents. It is a preposterous sop to migrant communities that are now such a large voting block that they are warping policy. Such a policy completely undermines every reason for having mass immigration in the first place – to revivify economic links, to address an aging population, to boost productivity – are all made a mockery by this.

Moreover, when combined with Labor’s franking credits reforms it becomes an extraordinary insult to elderly Australians who are basically (rightly) having tax rorts removed, only for those budget savings to cross-subsidise the importation of elderly foreigners (wrongly) to the tune of a $20bn cost. This may be a political party segmenting it pitches for different communities but, seriously, where is the simple duty of care of a government for its people? What does it mean to national interest policy in the future when a migrant community twice the size is sympathetic to a foreign power like the CCP?

The summation of these arguments and policies offers up a Labor Party vision that is at best distorted by ideology. More likely it is a dated conviction for the benefits of Asian integration born forty years ago that has lost touch with today’s fast moving reality. In the nineteen eighties Australia did need mass immigration to help it integrate with Asia. Just as in the 1950s the basic truth of populate of perish made sense.

But that is not the case today. We are Asian and Chinese integrated already to a huge extent. Nor in either earlier waves of mass immigration did we intensify any strategic risk to Australian democracy. Today that is the case. Not because there is anything wrong with immigration per se, nor, heaven forbid, Chinese peoples. What has changed is the dominance and nature of the CCP. It is not liberalising China, as successive Australian governments have hoped. It is going vehemently the other way, with ever greater centralised control under an explicit dictator deploying the full power of technological surveillance for control and imprisoning millions of its enemies point blank.

And it has already displayed a willingness to project power, as well as undermine economically allied democracies wherever it likes.

So, can Labor be trusted to run Australia to the benefit of Australians, migrants and all, when the entire multicultural edifice itself is based upon a principle of liberal democracy that mass immigration and CCP influence now calls into question?

Labor shows no sign of understanding the historic tensions that are coming to bear upon Australian pillars of freedom. It appears to take them for granted, blinkered to the encroachments of the CCP, as the party fights the good fight against radical racism. Its senate ally in the Greens is even worse, a complete strategic babe in the woods, focused on creating a world of singular government to fight climate change that will never come to pass. Both are so focused on a racist radical right, that is itself obsessed with a dying non-state actor in Muslim racialism, that all three are oblivious to a rising great power that fundamentally challenges our system’s raison detre.

Let me repeat, the Australian Chinese community is not at fault here. I have fought tooth and nail against discriminatory immigration, and recognise fully that it has no place in a modern democracy. But the behaviour of the CPP simply cannot be ignored for the sake of standing on ceremony. The answer is that broad and indiscriminate immigration must be cut hard to ensure and protect Australian political integration (as opposed to cultural) for all Australian children regardless of creed and colour.

Until Labor recognises these basic facts of history, I cannot in all conscience argue that it is capable of defending Australians, its most grave responsibility, nor can I recommend anyone vote for it. Despite sharing key reform principles for which MB has fought for a decade.

I’m pretty sure that all of those who have served and sacrificed over history in the defence of the Australian democratic model of government would agree.

Comments

  1. robert2013MEMBER

    Thanks for the thoughtful comments. It seems to me that if immigrant voting blocks are swaying policy and future PMs are using insecure Chinese chat software then Australia has probably already been lost. It is time to prepare to leave.

    • I am seriously starting to think the same thing. The question is where to?

      USA seems the best bet.

      • ChristopherJMEMBER

        Us too, Steve, yet US population seems to be more under pressure from its govt and the rich than we are.

        NZ? Yes, but the weather…

        Thailand offers 10 year visas and is very vibrant too. So , I am told

      • Steve, My wife is from Perth and we are living in Sunshine Coast. Lovely area but we just migrated back from the US in Tennessee in Dec 2018. I got to tell you am definitely starting to have buyers remorse. Seriously leaning towards getting out of Australia. This place has changed so much from when we lived here 2001-2009. US has its problems but geez real estate, cost of goods, nanny country and more its just not worth it here. Going to give it till the end of the year but me and my sons are leaning towards screw this place. Might have to leave the wife here.

        Cheers,
        LBS

      • robert2013MEMBER

        I will look to marry a European – I’d prefer German, Swiss, Norwegian or Dutch. The USA has plenty of great features but overall I think life in Europe is better. There is deep history there to act in resistance to extreme multiculturalism.

      • Good plan LBS, no use being unhappy….i luv travelling but even more l luv landing back here in HK…transport cheap and extremely efficient, a city that never sleeps and such diversity in people, many languages many cultures all mixed in…food is awesome, nobody hassles you, pay fck all tax, no talk of property, bar tenders are just bartenders, there to make your nite good and get what you want, same with restaurants…and that goes for all Asia…you can be yourself in Asia, def no keeping up with johnses….booze is sold everywhere ie 7/11 etc, just alows you to live and enjoy your life, you take responsibility for your actions, no blame and no faaaarking lawyers looking to sue!

      • Good luck buying a house in HK though. Most unaffordable housing market in the world

        Also HK has changed for the worse in recent years with the inundation of mainland Chinese. Ask any local young Cantonese, most want to leave

      • Where to is the problem. USA is in end of empire throes! NZ no. The immigration and policies make it no good anymore. A beautiful country with wonderful food if one was there 25 years ago. Politically not ok. Here where Penny Wong can push more chinese interests and call Hansen no godd when she is pro Australia is disgusting. Once Han Chinese reach 20% population they have control according to chinese research. Aus has lost its identity.
        Aus lost any respect when the RAAF bombed the Syrian army when it had ISIS invading terrorist headchoppers on the run, killing 60 or so and wounding the 150…. bombs blow off limbs and prosthetic limbs are sanctioned by the USA. Australia is not what it was, it’s identity is gone.

        Worldwide loss of confidence in government makes it hard to find somewhere to want to live.

      • Your point being?

        Just give it a bit of time, once the novelty wears off you’ll see the real HK. Along with the most expensive property market on the planet, HK also has arguably the rudest and most miserable people on the planet – which im sure is a direct consequence of the influx of mainland Chinese.

      • novelty taking a fair bit of time to wear off since i have been here since 2005 Wadjula… left aus in 1999 for Asia….love the real HK…

      • To me the only realistic option is USA. Although not perfect, it is certainly going to be able to defend itself and won’t be pushed around in its own backyard.

        Canada is an option – close enough to USA that its security is guaranteed.

        Europe has wonderful culture and history. But I think it faces an murky future with a less dominant USA, a resurgent Russia, and proximity to Middle East and North Africa.

      • @LBS I’m with you, although I think there is parts of the country that are still good. I find it’s a very different place to before I left in 2000-2007. I long for the Australia before mass immigration and the huge Chinese influence.

        Our politics are screwed if we have ScoMo and Shorten as our 2 options.

        I’m fed up with being pilfered at every turn, taxes, tolls, costs of living, rent, power, taxed on interest earned in a bank, obscene cost of housing + stamp duty on purchase, stamp duty when you buy a car, horrible costs of insurance and registration, education is a racket now with all the foreign students. Tafe is being gutted, lack of innovation outside of stack em 20 high dog boxes on every corner.

        Then there is the selfish attitude of our new arrivals. Just gobsmacks me each time.

        Of course we are now 1 of the most overweight populations on the planet, all bingeing on credit to buy houses 10x bigger than we need and massive SUVs each year.

        For me the best places to live now are outside of the big metros. Places like Healesville, Newcastle, Wollongong, Port Macquarie, Byron Bay, Orange, Bathurst, Blue Mountains, Dandenong Mountains, Red Hill / Peninsula etc.. if you can find decent work in those spots that is.

        I just drove up to my mum’s place up in Kinglake, through Eltham, Kangaroo Ground, Christmas Hills, Yarra Glen etc. I like those areas but the urban sprawl is working its way out there and destroying what was nice about those places.

        I think there is a mass exodus to these places though, including places like Tasmania to get away from the population crush.

    • Politics concerned with short-term and ideological domestic motivations is clearly not capable of a defence posture worth a damn. If you listen to Niall Ferguson speak on “China’s threat to Australia” there are several sobering points. One is that despite plenty of warnings of one possible future, political inertia resists action. The idea that China would liberalise with development and exposure to the West has been proven wrong. If anything it has strengthened its authoritarian party machine and has shown no willingness to liberalise.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhI042aGYI4

      The gradual rise of Chinese nationalism and hubris could be seen across the board room table during the last 2 decades. I suspect that China may be trapped in a centrally controlled growth model that cannot risk going backwards. Too much pride, expectation and domestic demand for material goods has been created for > 1 billion people and for this to crash badly is an inconceivable risk to the party power structure. The emergence of an idea that China has created the world and is a ‘miracle’ is now common in China. Strategically, China may end up in a position where anything is possible in order to prevent domestic social unrest – anything.

      To our great misfortune, the ALP and far Left live in a delusion born of a cognitive bias that resists hard realities of cultural and political difference because it does not suit an imagined world view. I have great respect for Penny Wong’s intellect, but suspect her ideological possession does not permit her to fully appreciate the brutal reality of China and that she has little chance of knowing what China’s intentions are – few outside of the party do. Amusingly, if you are a Malaysian-born Cantonese speaker you are totally on the outer of the mainland China’s Mandarin-speaking political elite – absolutely a non-starter. If anyone in Australia is ignorant enough to believe that Penny Wong’s Asian looks and Malaysian birth will buy her credit in China has never worked in China!

      But it is the malleability of the Chinese people that carries the greatest risk. In one century China has gone from dynastic rule of a peasants population, to hard line communist rule of year-zero cultural conditioning to an excessive capitalist engine driven by people who are unreconstructed authoritarian party clappers. There is a vast cultural, political, historical and psychological gap between us and this is dangerous not to recognise it. China’s party members don’t have sentimental hearts, they have plans and rules. And > 1 billion people follow those plans without debate.

      So, these words resonate – and not only because my own family history is similar:

      “Until Labor recognises these basic facts of history, I cannot in all conscience argue that it is capable of defending Australians, its most grave responsibility, nor can I recommend anyone vote for it, despite sharing key reform principles for which MB has fought for a decade.”

      In truth, neither the LNP or the ALP are up to it. They have proven this inability in spades by refusing to have a sensible discussion about a strategic reality whilst grabbing the loot and selling the silverware. In effect they have eroded the Australian nation state for a globalist agenda and cash grab. When the Port of Darwin was flogged to a Chinese company the Australian government jumped the shark.

      • ChristopherJMEMBER

        Thank you Clive, neither is up to the job.

        Agree, mate, but the system was set up for a two party rule. The only way for you to influence this is to infiltrate one of them and get elected. If you do, I’ll vote for you, until then ALP as the least worst. And, there is some hope at least that they will be more responsible and accountable.

        China influence? It’s what they do

      • In my opinion they stand for nothing, and definitely not this country. Nothing that the CCP is doing is non offensive and all about capturing as much of the globe as they can. If there is no push back they’ll succeed, and are succeeding right now with IP theft, political disturbance in foreign countries, eventual debt slaves countries via their development loans,

        “he said. “I don’t see … China as a strategic threat”…So Bill has been briefed by the intelligence services and still says this! He gets a free pass as does Dan Andrews by MSM, and most of the punters really don’t have time to think or do the research to decide. As a country we might just be totally compromised as all the pollies get briefings and yet take money from the CCP…if that’s not treasonous I don’t know what is. The economy is so shattered that we don’t even have the will to build a better system, and still see mineral exports, and houses as the only game. Little manufacturing and very little value adding, and rely on immigration to bring more consumption to the economy. Any sane person would have alarm bells going off..not here though. I like others, rue the day I was forced to come back, but it’s even shocked me how fast the change is now, and how much worse it’s getting. Knowing your government is selling you out is a bitter pill.

      • davidjwalshMEMBER

        thank you Clive for a great post … maybe it will prompt some thought on this site and from there to a wider audience … we can only hope …

    • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

      ” It is time to prepare to leave”.

      That’s a lovely sentiment to express on ANZAC day Rob.
      The path of least resistance, for those who can, “just leave”.
      How about fighting for the Democratic control of our Country!
      If not out of respect to our Diggers or for the sake of our Children and their cohorts, just join the fight out of simple self respect.

      Barley more than 100 thousand people are members of a Political party in this Country.
      Labor has the largest Membership base at less than 55,000.
      This is a pathetic number of people in our 25million person Australian Democracy.
      If your not going to step up and “serve” your Country, then maybe you shouldn’t howl so loudly when she lets you down.
      Peoples lazy and apathetic refusal to participate and take their Citizenship seriously is just as much to blame for the current woeful state of our political system as our careeist sh!tbag leaderships.

      Never before has our Country so needed the People to “Join up” and take democratic controll, like she needs it today.

      Democratic control of party policy, should be decided with in the parties, this is the only way of heading of the corruption of ANY elected representative of any party.
      Individuals alone can not withstand assult by the Vast amounts of money and power being weilded by the enemies of Democracy.
      https://www.alp.org.au/about/join-labor/

      • EP, I completely understand both the principles and sentiment behind what you’re saying, but I think for a lot of people their short time on this Earth would be better spent elsewhere, as Robert proposed. And I say this as someone who has been in the Australian Army (and still has 2 siblings in the RAAF) yet decided to leave more-or-less permanently.

        I’m guessing you’re an older guy who remembers a society where the values that get trotted out every ANZAC Day – mateship, a fair go, larrikinism – could actually be seen on a day to day basis. For us in the under 30 set though, it’s a fuzzy idea from primary school. For young adults just transitioning from uni to work now, they must wonder if it’s ever really existed, or is just a myth we tell ourselves to feel better or even just out of habit. We’ve had one message from Australia, from successive governments, from the preceding generations who by-and-large think things have been going just fine:

        We don’t need you, we don’t want you. Any skill you could hope to obtain we can find cheaper offshore. Should you happen to excel to such a degree you could start your own enterprise, we will tear it down. And if you don’t care to engage in the hyper-competitive capitalist structure, and would just like a life of quiet dignity, you’d better have been born into wealth. Otherwise you can look forward to never having a permanent place to call your own, forced to move every few years, with no pets, not even the option of putting a family photo on the wall. If you can afford a family. And don’t even think of retiring, we will work you till you’re knee deep in the grave.

        Are these the values we should be fighting for? Or you think that somehow, if we all just joined a party we could turn the ship around before we’re dead? One could argue that we ought to be the proverbial man who plants a tree who’s shade we never enjoy, but I see that as wildly optimistic. Instead I’ll be giving me kids the opportunity to start their life outside a country that seems to hate both me and them.

      • The egalitarian country that existed pre 83 could still be remade and there are small signs Labor is reimagining this. Which is why articles suggesting Labor won’t defend Australia when they are the only party who has put Australia’s defence first are not helpful. The media line that both parties are as bad as one another, as captured as one another, as infiltrated etc is just idiotic. One side has fraudulent policies, has always been ruled by London/ Washington, the other side has some good policies and has a history of putting Australia first when it mattered.

      • Professor DemographyMEMBER

        If they make the negative gearing and capital gains changes I’ll join.

        I like your thinking that from within the party I can vote for and petition for a much bigger Australia.

      • robert2013MEMBER

        It’s not time to leave yet EP. I don’t have a foreign passport, but I want one just in case. Things might just get better, but Shorten’s pandering to migrants’ parents at the expense of Australian tax payers to better his election prospects shows that they already have enough heft to swing policy. This is really bad. It means that our politicians are not putting us first presumably because they know that if they keep the taps open we won’t matter at the ballot box. Already it’s likely that 50% of the population is either born overseas or has a parent born overseas (it was just under 50% at the 2016 census.) We have already been swamped. So what is left to fight for? As long as my AUD wage is competitive I will stay, and I might join the fight. But it looks like a losing battle from here – even half the MPs are from somewhere else.

      • Some worthy sentiment EP. I just wonder if you may be better off with a fresh start. Changing organisations, particularly large ones can be very difficult.

    • Time to leave? I checked ten years ago for alternatives to Australia as the controlling hubris re importation of various products for health and the ignorance and big pharma promoting health guaranteed by government started to bite, I had an extreme allergic reaction under domestic stress, was hospitalised and given seratide and body destroyer and the a puffer for allergic asthma resulting from hormone suppression ie dhea. My go cannot prescribe it. Seratide eats prefrontal cortex and memory for a start, creates autoimmune issues and eats bone. Anyway I looked for a place to live with dignity and temperate climate. NZ was out unless one was young or invested a large amount. Shaky is a concern, with the grand solar minimum cycle on us, the increased cosmic energy adds to earths plasma.
      it grows and more deep activity north of NZ, it’s continually battered. Nowhere close. Ireland is a beautiful country and rural but too far away, again nigh impossible to immigrate. Probably long term best to be in the north, extreme north in Aus post 2032. Right now now employment opportunities and too hot except maybe Atherton tablelands tho not high enough. Right now the deserts in the Middle East are green and rivers dead for 1500 years are flowing. I am ex scientist not a ‘believer,’ not a believer in global warming. The fall in solar radiation is faster than in previous cycles going back beyond the Maunder Minimum.

  2. “I cannot in all conscience argue that it is capable of defending Australians, its most grave responsibility, nor can I recommend anyone vote for it”

    In 1942, in defiance of Churchill Labor made the call to bring the troops home in order to defend Australia. The closest we have been to genuine foreign attack
    I think they deserve more credit than the above.

    • Yeah but the enemy in 1942 was obvious. Everyone knew who the enemy was.

      Now the enemy is much more subtle. And much more divisive. And plays a very long game. And for all these reasons is much more dangerous.

    • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

      It’s not the same Labor party today Sweeper.
      The ALP leadership of 1942 had a far greater deference to the parties rank and file and working class supporter base.
      Today’s leadership is part of the economic “establishment” today and presents little to no real challenge to Plutocratic/Coporate interests.
      This must be changed for our 2 party system to retain any kind of resemblance of real Democractic choice.

      • Question is why the ALP are being singled out here when they are the only party with a track record of actually putting Australia’s security first.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        “Question is why the ALP are being singled out here”

        Because they are about Rule this Country again and the current Embarrassment of a Government is in “Caretaker mode”.

      • “You think the LNP are any better?”

        Nope. The original question specifically referenced Labor so I answered it as it was phrased. Both parties are as bad as one another – incompetent and/or corrupt. Pollies of all stripes are generally useless. I would have the lot of them thrown to the sharks for selling us out and feathering their own nests. Democracy has failed us and we are mere passengers now.

      • “Democracy has failed us and we are mere passengers now.”
        I’m not sure I agree. I think we collectively failed democracy. We were force fed (and swallowed) a narrative of self-interest and small government which has played into the hands of narrow sectional interests. We allowed them to wrest too much control from the people by effectively voting for policies that do not serve our collective interest.

    • Are they ‘defending’ Australia now? No — they’re basically encouraging an invasion.

      Take your blinkers off every once in a while.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        You think the LNP are any better?
        It was liberal party MP Andrew Robb that sold the Darwin port to CCP control against our strategic partner the USAs protests.

      • Encouraging an invasion? How?
        So you think the LNP is more likely to defend Australia:
        Who fought the labour movement in the courts to have exports destined for Japanese armament continue to go to Japan even after the atrocities in China and already stated Japanese plans for aggression in the Pacific?
        Who supported British appeasement of Nazi Germany?
        Who wanted to abandon Northern Australia above the Brisbane line?
        Who first sent troops to Vietnam?
        Who strongly opposed Vietnam in 66?
        Who signed Australia up to the strategic mistake in Iraq based on non existent WMD?

      • Even StevenMEMBER

        @ sweeper

        You are stuck 50-70 years in the past, mate. Labor today bears no resemblance to that.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        Sure Even Steven but the Rank and File of no other party can DEMAND its Leadership return to its Traditional duties and Responsibilities like and ALP rank and File can.

        Why don’t you come over and fight for some REAL Democracy within the only party your ever going to have a chance of finding it and making it happen.
        No matter how much the current leadership would like to disavow its past they cannot escape what the ALP was and always must be, the party of the working class and the downtrodden.

        To put it in better words than I can,

        “I have had the privilege of leading the Labour Party for nearly four years. They have not been easy times and it has not been an easy job. It is a man-killing job and would be impossible if it were not for the help of my colleagues and members of the movement.

        No Labour Minister or leader ever has an easy job. The urgency that rests behind the Labour movement, pushing it on to do things, to create new conditions, to reorganise the economy of the country, always means that the people who work within the Labour movement, people who lead, can never have an easy job. The job of the evangelist is never easy.

        Because of the turn of fortune’s wheel your Premier (Mr McGirr) and I have gained some prominence in the Labour movement. But the strength of the movement cannot come from us. We may make plans and pass legislation to help and direct the economy of the country. But the job of getting the things the people of the country want comes from the roots of the Labour movement – the people who support it.

        When I sat at a Labour meeting in the country with only ten or fifteen men there, I found a man sitting beside me who had been working in the Labour movement for fifty-four years. I have no doubt that many of you have been doing the same, not hoping for any advantage from the movement, not hoping for any personal gain, but because you believe in a movement that has been built up to bring better conditions to the people. Therefore, the success of the Labour Party at the next elections depends entirely, as it always has done, on the people who work.

        I try to think of the Labour movement, not as putting an extra sixpence into somebody’s pocket, or making somebody Prime Minister or Premier, but as a movement bringing something better to the people, better standards of living, greater happiness to the mass of the people. We have a great objective – the light on the hill – which we aim to reach by working the betterment of mankind not only here but anywhere we may give a helping hand. If it were not for that, the Labour movement would not be worth fighting for.

        If the movement can make someone more comfortable, give to some father or mother a greater feeling of security for their children, a feeling that if a depression comes there will be work, that the government is striving its hardest to do its best, then the Labour movement will be completely justified.

        It does not matter about persons like me who have our limitations. I only hope that the generosity, kindliness and friendliness shown to me by thousands of my colleagues in the Labour movement will continue to be given to the movement and add zest to its work.”

      • @sweeper
        I think you missed my point (or joke). Invasion wasn’t referring to defense, it was referring to opening the immigration gates wide as can be.

      • “…they’re basically encouraging an invasion.”
        They just need someone to help prop up the fragile economic edifice they have created and were rewarded for creating over recent decades. Governments typically think no more than a term in office ahead and the problems we see are largely a function of that short term, self interested thinking and it’s not just by them either.

        When I discussed interest rates with some workmates recently, it amazed me how many purchased their homes in the post “recession we had to have” era. Did anyone actually make the connection that some tough medicine back then was the primary reason they were able to purchase their homes at a reasonable price and have them largely paid off now? Nope. Sure there was a lot of hardship at the time, it’s just bloody amazing how people fail to see in a balanced way the consequences and benefits over time behind policy choices like this. It’s all about immediate self-gratification for too many, and that’s why tax cuts play such a big part in every election narrative.

        The “invasion” as you call it, is largely the product of the growing vulnerability and dependence that has been created by that legacy of neglect. Without it property prices would implode and a major recession would be triggered. No mainstream politician has the balls to say “This is a recession we had to have” because too few have been voting for that kind of sensible stewardship for a long time.

    • Labor of the 1940s bears NO resemblance to the organization pretending to be the Labor party today. None at all.

    • SupernovaMEMBER

      Agree, but the Labor Party during wartime 1942, believed in a strong independent Australia and was a very different party. The current Labor Party is dominated by cultural marxism.

  3. boomengineeringMEMBER

    Australia has always been dominated by a foreign power so any new administration will have the way paved for them. Never did leave the nest, just swapping one for another. Bit like the folks hobby farm where the bull had the chance to leave but chose to keep suckling its mother, but beware the new mother. We have had many chances to become a republic, instead we look for any available apron strings.

    • SupernovaMEMBER

      The risk in a republic lays in the change to our constitution…..which is why Turnbull wanted a republic….it was primarily because he wanted to make significant changes to our constitution. Turnbull wanted a “globalist constitution” complete with open boarders where the top end of town and bureaucracy would be permanently ensconced.

  4. my dad, who served on Bougainville Island in WWII

    Interesting stuff. Did you have to move house often due to having a dad in the army?

  5. – I am still NOT convinced that Labor will win the next national election. And that’s here H&H’s assumption.
    – I fear the chinese influence will grow and grow. Especially because of the changing demographic composition of the population. It’s called “Democracy”, remember ?
    – Another reason chinese influence will grow is the recent economic downturn/”recession”. I fear too many politicians also have one or more property investment(s) and are – as a result of that – in “financial stress” as well. When someone offers them a “campaign contribution” then it will become very attractive to accept that “contribution”. In that way the influence of e.g. wealthy chinese persons will be able to simply buy “more influence”.
    – That way even Labor could become (more) “vulnerable” to “foreign influences”. And that doesn’t bode (too) well for the future of “Straya”. But I hope I am wrong in this regard.

  6. The days of milutary conquests are over, we are being purchased by others so there is no need to wage a war.
    Like German take over of Greece via debt collection

    • Look at the bright side of the Chinese takeover…… China is the oldest continuing civilization on the planet. So the Chinese know about survival better than anybody. Straya will be in good hands.

  7. We need to be ruled by Britain again. Or at least have CANZUK.

    I did not know that British soldiers did not fight in the Vietnam War until Nigel Farage said it in Feb 2016.

    in 2009, Gordon Brown announced a royal commission on the Iraq War and his predecessor was put under the microscope – despite belonging to the same political party.

    Tony Blair apologised.

    Bush has said he was ‘‘surprised’’ when no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. Howard said he was ‘‘embarrassed’’.

    Bush and Howard are under no pressure because there has been no official inquiry into the war in the US and Australia. In Washington and Canberra, we are more concerned with protecting the egos of politicians who supported the war than we are in protecting the lives of soldiers to be sent into future wars.

    In Canberra, both main parties are committed to protecting another sensibility too – an inquiry into the Iraq disaster could be seen to be a reflection on US leadership and the alliance, and no mainstream politician wants to risk offending the US.

    The Abbott government ordered a royal commission into a ceiling insulation program that killed four people

    For Americans, the anger shown toward Blair may seem surprising. Even Bush, the man who apparently owned the “poodle,” isn’t treated with such widespread hostility for his role in the Iraq war, and the lucrative international work of former U.S. presidents such as Bill Clinton is largely tolerated. But much of the world seems unwilling to let Blair off the hook.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/10/26/tony-blair-kind-of-apologized-for-the-iraq-war-but-many-brits-still-hate-him/

    86% of Americans think USA is the best place in the world!

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/30/most-americans-say-the-u-s-is-among-the-greatest-countries-in-the-world/

    It is a shame that USA is slated to have a population of 400 million. That means more paranoid people, more school shootings, more pollution, and as this answer points out, more wars:

    given the US treatment of the UK in particular, over the Suez crisis and the lack of any US support during the Malayan Emergency, it was hardly that surprising in return, that the UK was loath to officially commit itself to what the UK perceived to be – rightly as it turned out – the US’s reckless Vietnam adventure.

    We do not have an Aussie edition of USA Today – we have Aussie editions of The Guardian, Daily Mail, and Sky News. Our values align with Britain rather than a nation that says “public hospitals are evil, taxpayer funded education would be communism, and a lack of public transport means freedom”.

    • We are ruled from the UK – that is the exact problem. Our leadership takes its cues from globalists headquartered in London, Brussels, Paris etc etc.

      What is more dangerous, is that the UK is run by a satanic cult, which uses violent pedophilia as a social technology. Think omerta, except way way more disgusting. The idea is, to move up the ranks of this criminal cabal, you have to provide video material of ever more violent acts against children (because you will never betray the cabal that way).

      In case you are wondering, said elite has no issues with the religion of pieces, hence the UK is turning into an sh!thole. All those peaceful gangs grooming kids in the UK – just who do you think the grooming was to provide children for? And how does the UK keep going? Well, by ever more egregious acts of aggression against other sovereign states of course.

      You know how I’ve been banging on (since what, mid last year?) about the 5eyes spying on the Trump campaign and trying to pull a coup? Exhibit A: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1121006942502182913 Justice is coming, these people are stupid.

      You want to help British people? Start running guns out of Casablanca or something, because right now they are being destroyed by their own elite.

      P.S you can also start in France, apparently the Notre Dame will be rebuilt with a minaret: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47959313

  8. I weep for my country. Thank you for efforts HnH. Here to support as much as possible.

  9. U have to feel sorry for the anzacs and ww2 diggers. My old pop spent 4 years as a pow.

    And now they would be turning in their grave. A potential PM on we chat fmd..

    50 years time we will probably have a ch1nese extraction PM no.dount about it. Both parties want this.

    Like others have mentioned I am.not sure I want this path for my family and I.feel betrayed by australia in that the country i grew up in is now unrecognizable. And most people are asleep about this.

    I feel like emigrating. USA the best bet. At least til.we are 65 and then come back and live in coastal nsw away from the big cities which will be well.and truly swamped by then.

    Who would have known
    PH was right all along in her maiden speech

  10. Switzerland for mine

    Grandfather 1 flew Spitfires over Darwin and Asia
    Grandfather 2 was in the Solomons and Moresby

    Both would be shocked, shocked at the state of things and they only departed their mortal coils in the last 6 years

    • proofreadersMEMBER

      Surely, our politicians can be bought for a lot less than that or do they at least have one principle?

      • I think they are busy negotiating the sale price of tasmania. Sadly it wasn’t their original idea. They are just following the footsteps of the French, the Spanish and the Russians, only 150 to 210 years later.

  11. Pretty rich to see criticism of Labor from right wing types over defence, considering ti was Labor that saved this country during the last World War. If we’d been relying on the conservatives/nationals we’d be speaking Japanese by now. It took Curtain turfing out the completely treacherous Pig Iron Bob for us to get our badly needed troops back from perfidious Churchill. It took Curtain to convince MacArthur that he needed to be here, in Brisbane, to prosecute the war in the Pacific.

    You forget this. You also forget that if it wasn’t for Labor pressure we would be buying of the shelf subs from the highly flighty Japanese. We now will be getting the ability to at least service our own incredibly essential kit, instead of shipping it all the way through dangerous territory to the North East Pacific.

    Labor wants a domestic arms industry, and it has been continually stymied in this aim by the LNP. We are too far away and isolated to be so reliant on other arms. We should be able to kit out our own armed forces, it would make us more credible. That will never happen with people like Joyce, Morrison, Murdoch, etc, in the picture. The man who controls the Liberals is quite literally a foreign agent. Scum.

    • Bit one eyed nathan.
      What did uncle bill call trump before the u.s election? Stark raving mad? Wow way to speak to our most important friend.
      The old labor you can defend but not the new SJW labor…the one that loves safe schools. Getup issues.

      The old labor died in the 80s and replaced with SJW types who love open borders and hugging each other

      • 100%. The Labor Party of today is not the Labor party of yesteryear. Yet they still try convince the punters they have the same values and most fall for it.
        This is true of the Greens, Liberals, Democrats, Republicans, Tories, British Labour etc etc. And as for Getup, SJWs and Social Constructionists, I can’t begin to understand their motivations.
        I get so angry when I see some politicians getting up and talking about mateship and values on Anzac day. You feel like shaking them and slapping them in the face and saying “Look in the mirror, you represent none of these values”

      • This is very true. Labor now and then are completely different parties. Labor today would probably find it racist to fight against a Japanese invasion. They positively encourage a Chinese one.

      • Typical conservative deflection. wanting to have an independent armaments industry, being able to defend this nation, is not un-patriotic.

        You just can’t accept that your side of politics, and stop pretending otherwise, has done the most to weaken this nations capabilities.

        But I guess having hoodas at the War Memorial for 100 mil is more important?

      • Yes old labour gone. I remember as a tiny child in a small country town seeing little billy Sheahan talking on the footpath surrounded by men a sea of hats with them chiaking him. Greens all gone, Bob Brown and some sense, all the greenies held back, held at bay well back from activism by career guys at ANU and Po,iticians, libs, no go.
        There is no party to vote for who can control the parliament, get the numbers. Complete no confidence in the three parties who are Aus wide. None of those give a stuff about aust the land and Aus people.

    • Fair points. But you have perhaps not met Labor’s immigration extremists in person. Believe me when I tell you that one eyed does not cover it.

      And BTW, I don’t trust the post Turnbull LNP either.

      • robert2013MEMBER

        Nobody here trusts either of them Hnh but the reality is that our preferences will likely flow to one of them especially in the reps. We all need to decide whether we put Labor ahead of liberal or vice versa, regardless of who we put above them or below them or between them on our ballots. I would love to hear your views on this. It seems like Hobson’s choice but it is one we must all make.

      • The Rudd Labor White Paper went the furthest in naming the beast. China is a threat, and we need to be able to credibly sail up through the SE Asian archipelago and “take the arm off” an aggressor. We need to make them think twice and we need the world to understand we have this capability. Conservatives of the Abbott ilk don’t like this because it means bigger government, and higher taxes, and protectionism, which they with their lizard brains are pathologically against. The American’s did not like it because it basically said that we can’t rely on them…..because we can’t. We have our own interests, and they are separate from America’s. We need to be able to assert them, which is the opposite of what the current LNP leadership is aiming for. The Liberal’s have been weak on Australian independence since their founding. Nothing has changed in the last 80 years.

    • Sweden, a fraction of our size, does a very credible job of kitting their forces,
      But I forgot, they make stuff….

      • Exactly. They stand on their own. We have a bigger economy, more people and more need, yet we are letting the Yanks dictate our defence policy? Ridiculous.

      • That’s it. They make stuff, value add, but that’s not what we do here anymore. Even Canada make stuff and they are similar to Australia and we can’t/won’t. Even when the globalist pollies here pump the population to a few hundred million we still won’t be able to make stuff with the consumption only prime directive that they follow. I’m pretty sure we’re stuffed even now. Large debt, large commitments going forward, and no plan to be innovative other then talking about , no tax treatment to facilitate, etc. Import everything and consume, that all it is.

      • It is too late for me, Sweden. The Emperor will show you the true nature of the Force. He is your master now.

      • SupernovaMEMBER

        Plus Australia was in a much more stronger economic position after ww2 than Japan, yet Japan has forged ahead technologically much more than Australia…..so what gives? Clue: You cannot grow a country through “fragmentation”.

  12. A nice example of pearl clutching. Your argument seems to be that if some of the left dare to imbibe a glass of shandy then we all risk becoming destitute alcoholics. There are some deadset idiots in the Labor ranks but there are more than enough sensible rational types of influence to ensure the defence of Australia against something as tangible as Chinese influence and control.

    No, the choice we have at this election is not which side will defend the country but whether a fair go comes with conditions.

    • “There are some deadset idiots in the Labor ranks but there are more than enough sensible rational types of influence to ensure the defence of Australia …”
      Care to name any of them?

  13. You really think we have a Defense Industry?
    The only bright spark is likely eos who build remote weapons systems, yet the abc etc seem very keen to see these guys out of business.
    I wonder what the abc will say if we are every invaded?
    Likely why didn’t have have a defense industry supporting us?

  14. proofreadersMEMBER

    And what’s the view of Strayan living national treasure, Alan Jones, on all of this?

  15. alterbrainMEMBER

    A large State actor with a clear vision, able to probe with persistence over time, for information, weakness, influence, and purchase of assets, can have noticeable outcomes in a democracy that doesn’t notice much. Elements of big business have been doing the same, funding long term ‘think tank’ influencers to have direct input into the political process. We now have a situation where we talk about ‘the Defence of Australia’ in the context where we have almost no manufacturing capacity left, huge per capita debt, Tertiary education problems, high youth underemployment, and companies where internal training and development is only for those too ‘foolish’ to not recruit cheaper qualified temporary staff from overseas.
    A large diaspora from one ethnic group doesn’t automatically translate to assumed values – if we work at it. China, for example, has had to really work at incorporating Hong Kong. It faced plenty of resistance. However, is there any sort of vision of what being Australian means? Any values that we somehow all rally around that an immigrant can adopt and help resist foreign influence? I wonder if we value anything except the beach and money. Perhaps we need a less looney ‘Team Australia’. We need something to defend, and a broader understanding of Defence.

    • SupernovaMEMBER

      Tertiary education problems….yeh one of the largest is that Australia is producing humanities grads by the bucket load requiring millions more victims to make a living and their mates at the ABC are helping by constantly promoting “get-help” reports. “Snowflake culture” is not what the ANZAC’s fought for.

  16. “Is Shadow Minister Wong calling for an end to it? If so, it won’t be replaced by some fanciful regional collective flower show. ”

    Lol careful there…. some SJW will accuse you of being misogynistic and sexist

    • Great story and the proprietors got their just desserts. Certainly the human race would be doomed if there were many more people of their ilk around.

      • There has to be some sort of capitulation before a major reversal in mega-tends can occur in any market. You know, a great disturbance in the Force, so to speak.

        I am not sure what the equivalent is here, but I don’t get the sense that the bottom is near. Perhaps, the housing bust will come first?

      • The crisis will almost certainly be economic (maybe war, but I hope not). When you’re struggling to put food on the table, you really don’t have time for all this fringe-thinking [email protected]

        Organic stores and all this other lifestyle nonsense will disappear up its own ar$e. Economic hardship will reset our collective thinking about life and what’s important.

      • The Traveling Wilbur

        Now that Malcolm’s millions are missing in action, the Libs might fit that bill?

  17. mild colonialMEMBER

    Great article, great comments. Straight to the Twitter pool room to be met by the deafening silence of my SJW followers.

    • It does.
      “Hundreds of thousands of New Zealanders call Australia home, but for many, there is virtually no chance they will ever be granted citizenship.”
      I, am one of them, who upon application a few years back was told: “Well, you should have become an Australian before the rules changed!”. Yet if I was a member of another Commonwealth Country; a former foe on the battlefield or from a “developing nation’ I’d get across the line, hands down!

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        This is wrong and should be changed.

        Maybe we can redo the Referendum on NZ joining the federation of Australia.
        Which way would you vote on an ANZAC monetary and political union Janet?

        Ermington Plumbing would definitely Vote YES!

        But where should our New Capital city be?

        Bondi?

      • “A welfare crackdown introduced by the Howard government in 2001 means New Zealand expats are “non-protected special visa holders”, ineligible for social security and prevented from obtaining citizenship”

    • If you are not a citizen, you don’t get a clearance. The rules have varied over the years where lower level clearances would be approved to non-citizens, but above a specific level you had to be a citizen (and for a minimum number of years).

  18. Actually Australia is being invaded, but its being sold as just normal vibrancy and economic development.

    The main problem in not understanding that our situation stems from the beliefs sold to us since the early 1970s that we need to “integrate” into Asia, just like the USA whites needed to be integrated into the US black communities to achieve better wealth outcomes for the total community. This is despite the fact that there is no comparability between the US situation and ours. There may or may not be a moral reason for the integration of black and white communities in the US, but no such legitimate claim can be made for it to have taken place in Australia by the massive transfer of Asian/Arab populations here.

    By trying to ingratiate ourslves and integrate into an Asian nation through mass Asian/Arab/African immigration Australia is simply becoming balkanised into various ethnic communities with no shared vision other than finding ways of sucking off the public tit.

    Out of fear of giving offense to anyone and to fund the mass immigration program we have –
    1 – sold off most of our public assets, many to overseas interests;
    2. allowed many of our private assets to be sold to overseas interests
    3. allowed the rorting of our tax system by multinationals on a massive scale
    4. signed treaties that transfer our rights of self determination as a nation to outside bodies
    5. destroyed our manufacturing base
    6. made housing extremely expensive and added this to the costs faced by industry, thereby making them less competitive
    7. made energy costs very expensive for both private and public use, including for industry
    8. turned our financial and tertiary systems into participants and indeed massive promoters in the mass immigration programs.
    9. destroyed existing communities
    10. added to the destruction of our major cities as living friendly environments
    11 made Oz into a client state of China
    12. brought in people that do not particularly like white people, at least that is my experience from dealing with most Indians, Arabs and many Chinese;
    13 enhanced the power and wealth of the local elites, especially those operating in the FIRE sector and mining/oil/gas industry
    14. raised the cost of living,
    15 massively increased the level of foreign borrowings, thereby weakening Australia economically
    16 placed massive pressure on the availability of social infrastructure (roads, hospitals)
    17 increased the scope for social discord, rorting and manipulation, as most recently witnessed by the demands of migrants to bring in their parents (that will be just the start of family reunions, why not siblings, uncles and the whole village etc)
    18 Created a large under-class of white Australians who are being marginalised with little ability to compete against the low wage imported workers, or indeed even at other wage levels
    19 diverted funds that should have gone into manufacturing industries, STEM education, and defense

    Basically we need to move on from the Whitlam era ideas that we have to bring in an increasing number of non-whites in order to be acceptable to Asians. The truth is whites will never be acceptable to Asians, so the best approach is simply not to pander to them. That worked very well under the Menzies era when Australia was respected in the region for it power and wealth. Despite attempts by the Japanese back then, they were not allowed to own our rural and mining sectors, and in time they came to accept that.

    As regards what the ALP will do to defend Oz, its pretty clear that they will submit to Chindian demands, and the ultimate end of our nation. This is not the ALP of Curtin with its aim of protecting living standards of workers and promoting the white Oz policy. The current ALP will simply hurry up the processes started by Whitlam, and continued by the Libs (because its interests are supportive of the elites, both local and foreign). Only by voting for parties that are against mass immigration and especially ON will the message be heard that whites will not go quietly into the night.

    • A lot of new arrivals are happy not to engage with the locals. With mass migration of their own, development of ethnic enclaves, free communication to their home countries, mobile phones always calling home or their partner from their own ethnic group, and the ability to bring over their extended family – they don’t need to get along with the locals.

      No need to engage with their colleagues – they are happy to sit in the lunchroom with other people from their ethnic group, or call their partner. No need to smile or be friendly with other commuters, just phone your partner or family member for the whole train journey. No need to make friends with the locals, when you have people from your home town to chat with who live next door.

      • Yep. For too many vibrant, the only role for long-standing Australians is to pay tax and keep the welfare gravy train running.

    • Outstanding and depressive reading. Only way for traditional aussies to get by is to retreat to the regions that diversity hates eg northern nsw. Toowoomba.

      Aust cities are finished

  19. Using ANZAC Day to attack ANY political party, especially one where many members made the ultimate sacrifice to ensure we are today living free is despicable and Un-Australian.

    • It is all political. What do you think veterans are talk about today between two-up throws and exchanging battle stories? Essentially, what was it all for. This is why this editorial is important.

    • SupernovaMEMBER

      Unfortunately I think the point is that increasing numbers of Australians are beginning to realise that we are not living free and that for example “free-speech” ceased some time in the early 1980’s. The Australian culture is being marginalised and is disrespected with accusations of sexism, racism, discrimination primarily by recent immigrants of a globalised multicultural Australia who are heavily influenced by cultural marxist beliefs.

    • I sort of understand where you are coming from MichaelB.

      But ask yourself whether these old soldiers would be happy where the country is going.
      Ask yourself if one of the things they sacrificed so much for was a democratic government that ruled for the silent majority, as well as the the right to free speech and self determination.

      In conventional wars in earlier times, we knew we were in a war and were united.
      Now PC and lack of free speech and powerful and selfish vested interests mean many do not even recognise we are in a war. And that is the real tragedy we face today.

    • robert2013MEMBER

      The idea that there is such a thing as “un-australian” assumes that we know and agree on what “Australian” is, and that it means something other than entitled to an Australian passport and subject to enforcement of Australian laws by Australian police. I can see no evidence of this.

  20. Some worthwhile food for thought here. I don’t like the idea of pollies making thinly veiled promises to specific groups of voters via media almost exclusively frequented by those groups.

    David, you refer to the franking credit reforms as the rightful removing of a tax rort. As much as I understand and endorse the general thrust of Labor’s tax amendments, the franking credit reforms as proposed are a horse’s proverbial. Under the current arrangements, the imputation system simply ensures that all dividend recipients are liable to pay tax at their relevant marginal tax rate. If those tax rates are too low, as argued in this case for nil tax rate retirees, it is those that need changing.

    Otherwise, Labor’s proposal as it stands ensures that marginally self-funded retirees and genuine sub tax free threshold dividend recipients are penalised with up to a 30 percent regressive flat tax, while genuinely wealthy retirees and high income tax payers get to offset their personal tax liability to the tune of the full value of the imputation credits. The exception for share owning pensioners does not fix this problem, and was yet another example of brain fart on the run policy.

    Also never mind the huge largesse, by Labor’s reasoning, of still handing these ‘gifts’ back to charities and NFPs.

    The policy as proposed is readily avoided by those it most needs to capture, is a sop to Labor’s Industry Super donors (convenient that), and is highly unlikely to reap the savings touted. Unfortunately Mr Bowen appears to have hitched this policy to his ego, so it has to be hoped that wiser heads will have some input into this before execution.

    I don’t hold out much hope… (Disclosure: I have no meaningful interest in this beyond understanding the issue and having had a gutful of the endless conga line of politicians who talk out their @rse about stupid ideas that they think are clever, and cause entirely unnecessary division in the process).

  21. Lots of Interesting observations but missing from the above is any concept of what will be required to defend our country against 21st century foes.
    It’s easy to say that we need high technology subs that can operate right under the enemies noses but what role will these subs really play in an honest to goodness invasion of Australia?
    If you ask me I’d say we need to be investing at least twice as much as the subs cost in just understanding what the 21st century battlefield will look like. I don’t for one second believe that Iraq/Syria or Afghanistan have in any way prepared our defense personnel and defense planners for what’s coming our way IF China and the US get into a full on global war. If the shooting starts than one thing we can count on is that it won’t look like any war that’s ever been fought before and that’s what concerns me.
    I suspect we’ll discover that our subs are about as useful as a Chocolate teapot and that we’ve shot our load buying a expensive array of completely useless war machines…these machines of yesteryear were simply not designed for the wars of tomorrow.
    Hope I’m wrong …but unfortunately I don’t think I am.

    • Jevons ghostMEMBER

      We need a formidable fleet of long range strike aircraft to replace the F111. Many more F/A18 Super Hornets might be a short term fix. Seventy-five short range F35 aircraft are not the answer to threats that may emerge thousands of miles to our north.

      A couple of books & a research paper to consider reading to give you the raw details about how close we came to defeat in the early days of the Pacific War. Sobering stuff not to be forgotten.

      Whispering Death: Australian Airmen in the Pacific War.

      44 Days: 75 Squadron and the Fight For Australia.

      The Australian Aviation Industry: History and Achievements Guiding Defence and Aviation Industry Policy

      http://airpower.airforce.gov.au/APDC/media/PDF-Files/Working%20Papers/WP12-The-Australian-Aviation-Industry.pdf

      Of course things are different now but we still need our powerful Western hemisphere friends. More so now than any time in the last 60 years or so.

    • robert2013MEMBER

      Given that the Chinese are willing to GM human beings, I think they would quite happily build autonomous weapons of all kinds. We need really good EMPs and lots of very smart autonomous weapons of our own. I can’t see us having the possibility of building them ourselves since we don’t have our own chip fab, so we’d need to hope that the USA is onto it and willing to share.

  22. “Moreover, when combined with Labor’s franking credits reforms it becomes an extraordinary insult to elderly Australians who are basically (rightly) having tax rorts removed, only for those budget savings to cross-subsidise the importation of elderly foreigners (wrongly) to the tune of a $20bn cost.”
    This does enormous damage to our social cohesion. Why should I agree to pay taxes when the government gives them to foreigners who haven’t contributed? It breaks the socal contract between governed and government and will lead to the further erosion erosion of government legitimacy.

    • Most people are happy to help a minority group in the population, when it benefits all Australians, i.e. providing greater benefits to veterans, helps a minority group, but it is in all our best interests to support our veterans. But these elderly parental visas only serve the minority and is at a great cost to be born by all Australians.

      Couldn’t we get a less entitled lot of migrants that actually contribute something beyond being debtors, lower cost labor and consumers?

    • And it isn’t even a rightful removal of a tax rort. The seriously wealthy will not suffer from Labor’s imputation credit changes. In reality it will prevent the smaller balance self funded retirees and low income non-retirees from being taxed at their marginal tax rate, while higher income earners receive the full benefit of the franking credits as an offset against their higher marginal tax rate. Meaning those newcomers will be paid for in part by the effective introduction of an up to 30 percent flat tax rate on the franked dividend earnings of SMSF members generally at the lower end, and unwitting non-pensioner income earners such as a few young people I know who can’t afford a house, but have some modest savings stowed in Aust shares and LICs.

      But it’s easy to sell a supposed equity argument against a poorly understood policy when it can be dressed up as a rich vs poor issue.

      Are Shorten and Bowen genuinely clueless on this, or ruthlessly expedient – who knows?

  23. Jevons ghostMEMBER

    A recent paper from the RAAF Air Power Development Centre. Well worth a visit to their web site.

    Scenarios for China’s Future Strategic Presence in the Indian Ocean Region
    Dr David Brewster
    National Security College April 2019

    This paper will discuss the size and nature of China’s future military presence in the Indian Ocean region (IOR). It will focus on China’s strategic imperatives in the region and what that means for strategic presence.

    http://airpower.airforce.gov.au/Home

  24. Australia is indefensible.

    Don’t even need to land troops – just blockade our fuel imports. We’ll run out in 5 days and the country will break down utterly. We’ll agree to any demand – complete foreign ownership control and operation of our mineral deposits the most likely demand.

    Best thing we could do for national defense would be to mandate electric cars and trucks. We should have banned Volkswagen from selling fossil-fuel vehicles from 2020 as their punishment for Dieselgate, not just a fine.

    • I accept this is a radical proposal that won’t enjoy much support here or elsewhere.

      In business, if a small company was facing a likely hostile takeover by a much larger company, then one option open to the small company would be to consider a merger with another large but more friendly company.

      If you accept that, then one option for Australia would be to merge with USA.

      We would lose some of our national identity. But I think we will be losing that anyway. In return, we would be secured by (and be part of) the most powerful military in the world and would be part of the largest economy.

      In return, the US gets a large piece of land in an increasingly important part of the world, plus our claim on Antartica.

      No change is (unfortunately) not a realistic option. The world is changing and our future will be determined by more powerful countries one way or another. But we do have some say in how we change, and have some say over the future we want to leave our children.

      And yes, I really do believe things are this serious.

      • Good god
        More Stars and Stripes in Collingwood cheer squad and that unbearable Cox -no thanks
        Then again easy visa to work and ski Utah pow yes please and then surfing working on Oahu . Yes please

      • “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”

        William Arthur Ward

      • Well I would rather merge with USA than become merged with China and depend on a good social credit score from Beijing to be able to travel around the land formerly known as Australia.

        https://www.afr.com/news/policy/foreign-affairs/our-unpreparedness-sends-a-powerfully-bad-message-20190423-p51gfp

        Its a fair bet that 65 million years ago, the dinosaurs did not look at Chicxulub growing larger in the sky and think “Gee, this looks pretty serious.” And then suddenly, there were no more dinosaurs.

  25. China declared war on the west and its values over six years ago when The Party circulated Document No. 9.

    Just that not many people noticed.

    Now we are all starting to notice.