It’s time for Prime Minister Peter Dutton

Via the Sunday Mail:

MALCOLM Turnbull will move to save his job by vowing to set price caps on energy prices to drive down bills — at the same time as preparing to dump his signature big business tax cuts.

In a move designed to stave off a backbench revolt, the Prime Minister and Treasurer Scott Morrison will put the package to a Cabinet dinner at the Lodge on Sunday night with MPs able to promise voters cheaper bills by January.

However, the final sign-off on the measures is not expected until a formal Cabinet meeting this week, which will finalise the details of penalties to be imposed on companies that refuse to lower prices.

…In a Facebook video post, Mr Turnbull will pitch the NEG and his price-cap sweetener to voters and restive MPs who have been urging Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to challenge Mr Turnbull’s leadership.

…The dinner discussion will also touch on Mr Turnbull’s plan to reduce the business tax rate from 30 to 25 per cent, which is expected to be dumped after its impending rejection by the Senate, due this week.

Several marginal seat holders told The Sunday Telegraph the government has no chance of winning an election if it is forced to campaign for company tax cuts.

It comes as exclusive polling, seen by The Sunday Telegraph, reveals 61 per cent of voters think the Senate should block company tax cuts.

The new polling, by The Australia Institute, found only 45 per cent of Coalition voters supported the business tax cut.

…A senior Right source said the Prime Minister was “a dead man walking” unless his ­fortunes change before September.

As he should be. His energy failure is impeachable.

Is Turnbull a viable PM as these back-flips transpire? With the terrible NEG trashed and the disastrous company tax cuts doomed, Turnbull’s poisonous touch may be removed from policy but can they be removed from the man? I don’t think so. These were his only two policy positions, waved before him like a desperate vampire-hunter brandishes his talisman, once gone there is nothing left but the dark.

The next policy back-flip coming to the Coalition in its desperate hour is immigration cuts. These offer the prospect of not only back-filling an empty Coalition agenda but pushing it into sync with the zeitgeist, as well as actually putting pressure on Labor as it becomes the party of crushed-load living standards, The cuts will:

  • wedge Labor’s negative gearing reforms amid a falling housing market;
  • wedge Labor and the idiotic ACTU on wages;
  • wedge the Greens on the built and natural environments, and
  • heal the One Nation split in the Coalition base.

There is no doubt that in the right hands this agenda will win votes. Yet in the wrong hands the agenda will mostly shift votes around not win them. Turnbull is too damaged to take this platform forward. It also contradicts everything that he and his wife stand for and is an open embrace of his sworn enemy’s declared policies. That line of Labor attack will be fatal to Turnbull’s polling.

So, the way right forward is a new leader to carry the new platform.  Is “Creepy” Pete Dutton the man?

The one thing that Dutton will bring to this agenda is a perverse kind of authenticity. His comments on white South African farmers and African gangs are evidence of racism. So any cuts to immigration made under his leadership will smell like a man of belief to the polity. In QLD that’s going play very well and it will bring the One Nation vote back in. It’s a clear solution to that problem.

It will also be an advantage to have the authoritarian Fake Left press in uproar. Nobody but those cloistered individuals that live and breath the rarefied air of The Guardian, Domainfax and The Conversation offices are as righteous on population. That will alienate a lot of voters.

But, for these same reasons, Dutton will be a disaster in the cities. One can never know how a person performs as PM until there. The office imbues an authority of its own. But I think we can be pretty sure that Aussie city-folk will find “creepy” Pete utterly repulsive, reminiscent of the days that their lives have been dedicated erasing, when the apex predator “middle-aged white man” roamed and ruled the land. The secret acknowledgment that they know in their bowels, that immigration has run too far, will be swamped by cultural cringe.

Calculating whether or not a Dutton Government makes a net gain at the next election as it does better in the country and worse in the cities is beyond my expertise. My guess is that the Dutton might deliver some slight gain in seats versus Turnbull overall, within what is going to be a landslide loss regardless because the Coalition looks barren on just about every level. The IPSOS poll today is disastrous for Tunrbull as the spill mounts:

The latest Fairfax Media-Ipsos poll shows the Coalition primary vote has nosedived 6 percentage points to 33 per cent in a month and now trails Labor by 55 per cent to 45 per cent on a two-party-preferred basis.

That represents 4-point swing to Labor since the last poll a month ago when it led by 51 per cent to 49 per cent and a 5-point swing since the July 2016 federal election. That would result in up to 21 seats being lost if replicated on polling day.

As cabinet held a crisis meeting in Canberra last night ahead of this week’s parliamentary sitting, the poll showed the catalyst for all the trouble – the National Energy Guarantee – is popular with voters.

So is it worth doing?

For the Coalition it has the choice between trying to engineer a nearly impossible cyclical win versus making a structural repair to its base that must be made if it is ever to win again. Until ON voters are recaptured, the Coalition as an ongoing electoral concern is severely at risk. Think Labor’s decades in the wilderness as it struggled with the breakaway LDP during the Cold War. This outweighs any considerations of short term brand damage from changing leaders. So, yes, again, the Coalition should do it.

For the country, we need an immigration cut to end the class war on youth and working people, as well as to push the country down the route of a new economic paradigm, away from debt and urbanisation and towards a lower currency and tradeables.

If that takes a meathead to take power for a few months then so be it. A Dutton PM may slice into the multicultural binds that hold us together but his reign will be very short and the benefits of lower immigration to the social fabric over the long term will be much greater as the class war on working people and youth ends. Moreover, it will push the economy to where it needs to go. So, yes, for the nation the Coalition should also do it.

Ultimately, a Dutton PM that cuts immigration in half does one more thing. After Labor takes power it will be forced to face its own population demons. If it decides to increase immigration again then it will be held accountable for the ongoing crush-loading of living standards at the following election. A revitalised Abbott Opposition will be able to drive this wedge deep into the Shorten Government, deep enough to prevent it from lifting immigration at all.

I could not hold Peter Dutton in lower esteem. But if a Dutton PM delivers both Labor’s superior policy platform including tax, environment, health, superannuation, negative gearing reform and immigration cuts then it is a worthwhile sacrifice. That mix of policy leadership will trigger the one thing that will reset the tilted playing field between Australian generations and restore fairness to the country. The one thing that will reboot economic dynamism and wash the rentier parasites from Canberra. The one thing that will flush our regulators and drive the next phase of Australian expansion into the region.

Cheaper houses.  Lots of ’em.

David Llewellyn-Smith
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  1. Also

    multicultural binds that hold us together

    What, my apathetic lack of pushback against getting bred out?

    • GunnamattaMEMBER

      It’s time for Prime Minister Peter Dutton

      That would mean its time for a national socio economic self trepanning party!

      • “It’s time for PM Dutton” in the revolving door sense. This has been a long time coming, an uber facist is the throwback old Australia secretly lusts for.

        But Dutton is a lamppost illuminating national insanity.

        Sadly, no one from the smart middle is coming to save us from ourselves. Australia has wet its bed and gets to sleep in in it.

        Whatever replaces Dutton won’t be much help to anyone except the shady back seat drivers who put the next lot into power.

        we’ve become so obsessed with fighting each other to get our grubby mitts on what we think we deserve by hook or by crook we’ve forgotten what it’s like to be a community.

        Failure awaits, the only question is how long it takes.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        @mdsee

        You make 2 points that i feel are contradictory or maybe just incorrect with your use of “Uber Fascists”

        “an uber facist is the throwback old Australia secretly lusts for.”

        And

        “we’ve forgotten what it’s like to be a community.”

        Many supporters of the White Australia policy were Communists and Socialists as well as centrists and the Right wingers. They defined themselves as a White Australian Community,…it is the loss of this Community, or the perception of its loss, that many of these older Australians are lament the loss of.
        As a demostic maintenance plumber I service literally humdreds of these older customers every year and its a lament I hear often,…including, oddly, from a sizable number of “non white” Ausrralian customers who think “Diversity and multicuturalism” has gone to far.

        I find myself Antagonizing people on both sides of the debate, the school I went to in the 70s and 80s was of only 50-60% British isles stock, with a sizable number of Mediterranean Europeans and around 15 – 20% “non whites”.
        Though we had this diverse student body, there was no identifiably “”ethnic identity group”,…the cone smokers had some asians, indians and lebs, along with heaps of Greeks Italians and Anglos.
        I was a “waxhead” (I was a regular member of the cone smokers as well) and we had an Iranian and chinese guy surfing with us,…same went for the footy heads and Geeks.
        It made me think being a Proud Aussie had nothing to do with your ethnic ancestry, indeed I used to think and still do, that this inclusion, intergration and Assimilation is something that makes our country better than most others.

        My only criticism of our current non discriminatory immigration policies are that the numbers are way to high AND that there is not enough encouragement of immigrants to not just intergrate, but to also assimilate into a “Dominant but Evolving” Australian Cutural Identity, available to all.
        Australia will still remain a “Multicultural” society with the societal expectation that our new Arrivals endeavor to assimilate,…and in that process strengthen OUR multi ethnic but single and unique Australian Cutural Identity.

      • FiftiesFibroShack

        @Plumbing.

        For a bloke that so often laments identity politics you’re quite prolific when it comes to pushing issues of identity.

      • “”we’ve become so obsessed with fighting each other to get our grubby mitts on what we think we deserve by hook or by crook we’ve forgotten what it’s like to be a community.””

        These are the (bitter) fruit of John Howard’s and Neo-Liberalism’s Australia.
        The other factor that has been assaulting the sensibilities of most Aussies is the unrelenting bombardment of the Leftist Cultural Marxists via their Mainstream Media enabling.
        People are getting fed up with all the politically correct bullshit and the importation of Third World problems via Third World immigrants while the upper middle class and the elites engage in virtue signalling lip service.

      • EPlumbing. I believe in a ‘Dynamic Overarching Monocultural’ Moment – this means there is a single culture, which unites and supports us all (in the same way a Common Law does), no matter what your country of origin or ancestry is. This culture is dynamic in that it can evolve to take inspiration from other cultures it comes into contact with. For example, from Mediterranean and Asian cultures, I believe Australia is learning about the value of the extended family support network.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        @Hunter,
        Falling living standards and economic necessity is playing a big roll in Australians “learning about the value of the extended family support networks,” and with our falling birth rates these support networks can only reach so far,…but I agree with all your points Brother.

        @Fibro
        I lament the devisiveness and Narcistic victimhood culture of intersectional identity politics.
        I believe it primarly serves REAL Established power and keeps the working class weak and disempowered due to the way it destroys or at least ignores Working class Solidarity.
        I also believe this movement despises the idea of a self respecting and directed Australian working class identity.
        But what would I know,…Im just a dumb fking plumber c#nt.

  2. “The next policy back-flip coming to the Coalition in its desperate hour is immigration cuts.”

    Peter Potato Head will be an incredible anchor for the LNP to throw out. The ONLY thing that just might allow them to overcome the drag is a credible pull back on mass immigration and a full steam ahead attack on far left PC politics (that 90% of people are sick to death of). But put Malcolm Bligh in a small boat with his wife and sink it, along with his memory, and the people will be most entertained and relieved.

    But these are that end days of Billy McMahon all over again for the LNP. This time there is no Gough waiting in the wings for the ALP – only another lead Bill who will drag the left down to greater abyssal depths until they implode.

  3. Dutton may not have time to do any of that if Turnbull spits the dummy and joins the cross bench thereby ending the LNPs majority.

  4. The psychopath was meant to quit by the end of 2010:

    https://deanwormald.com/current-affairs/malcolm-turnbull-leaves-government-is-he-the-first-australian-politician-to-do-this-on-twitter-first-in-the-world/

    Turnbull has knifed or been knifed 4 times:

    Nelson 45: Turnbull 42
    Turnbull 45: Nelson 41
    Abbott 42: Turnbull 41
    Turnbull 54: Abbott 44

    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/FlagPost/2015/September/Prime_ministers_and_leadership_challenges

    Rudd knifed Gillard on 26 June 2013 and he called an election on 4 Aug 2013. Just 39 days later.

    ie, PM Dutton needs to cut immigration to 40k/year for a full year so that we notice it and vote him back into power. No good knifing Turnbull 73 days before an election – that would be too little too late.


    • , PM Dutton needs to cut immigration to 40k/year for a full year so that we notice it and vote him back into power. No good knifing Turnbull 73 days before an election – that would be too little too late.

      Then it’s too late already, given the next election has to be held in less than twelve months, and in fact, given there is a six to nine month lag in ABS reporting of NOM, it may be too late for any reduction in immigration that hasn’t already occurred to be reported, assuming May 2019 is the last possibility for a simultaneous House and Half Senate election.

  5. Healing the current base is toxic especially the Hanson base you talk if reclaiming. They need to build a new base or LNP is dead in two or 3 cycles. Anti-immigration will only get you so far.

      • Going anti immigration for real would kill their funding, with it all transferring to the pro immigration labor and completely killing them for the next election or 2. The political parties are far more concerned with advertising money than what the voting public thinks.

  6. and every time someone really bad got elected (Bush Junior, Abbott, Trump) we thought it cannot be worse …

    • I never thought that. I just don’t have that silly optimism.

      (This is aside from the fact that I thought that Trump’s win is better than sliced bread)

      …guess what the outcome of the next election is going to be? …delicious!

    • The Horrible Scott Morrison MP

      You’ve been watching the ABC and CNN again, haven’t you. I thought you had agreed to try harder from now on.

  7. ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

    Dutton would surely have the lowest “prefered Prime Minister” ranking ever!
    Even lower than Prime Minister Shorten would ?

    • All I know was that when Abbott first got selected as Opposition Leader I was gorging on popcorn thinking this unelectable buffoon was going to consign the Libs to the wilderness for years.

      Well how wrong was I. Very wrong. I also think Dutto is toxic but hey. You never know how things will pan out…

  8. Mr 5%……LMAO

    The LNP is now a death cult, and installing Dutton as PM is akin to throwing themselves into a volcano

    He is more than likely going to lose his seat come The next election.

    • Yep, as Mr Keating would say, we are once again sitting on our verandahs and polishing our baseball bats up here in Qld. That blip in support in the polls was fake for the purpose of floating the idea of an early election…so we can write off the media as bought and paid for as well.

      Mr Dutton is not a vote winner, I would counsel Tony le -inevitable……..but it will probably be Julie Bishop the one true neoliberal.

  9. Yeah sure. Unleash the hounds. That will be good for social cohesion. Have you been to the States lately? Dutton is nuts. So is any policy that aims to bring the Qld One Nation nut cases back on side. They should be well and truly cut loose. Does Dutton possess a ‘perverse kind of authenticity?’ No he is a cunning stoat who says just enough (or little enough) to fan the flames of the worst type of bigotry and racism that promise simple solutions to complex problems and deliver nothing but more misery. Dutton is not a solution to anything. He is a disaster on legs. If he’s the cost I’d rather have big Australia.

    • He is indeed repulsive but we are talking about him being in power for six months. Just long enough to crash through on the issue that nobody else will touch.

      The Coalition has no choice vis ON. It is bring em in or die.

      He is the right man to break the eggs we need to remake the omelette. And that’s all he is good for.

      • DIsagree. He is too divisive. The idea of a controlled burn is a fantasy. And let’s imagine he wins…

      • bolstroodMEMBER

        This is a distraction, a really beguiling one granted.
        I reckon you and the comenters are all missing the elephant that is baring down on us.
        While the cavorting politicians play out their power fantasy’s , Climate fuelled weather events are piling up around us.
        Sober, responsible scientists are telling us we are on the verge of runaway Climate catastrophe, and need urgently to START reducing carbon and methane emissions , and all we get are replays of play school (National Parliament ) with Mr. Potatoe Head.

      • The name of the individual leading the LIberal party seems completely irrelevant to the issue of whether or not it will adopt a lower immigration setting.
        Too many variables, including, if they get a poll bump out of changing leaders, there’s a good chance they’ll decide that the personality was the main problem, and maintain all existing policiies.

  10. +100. The PM whether turnbull or someone replacing him faces the same parliament that will vote the same way on all the same policies. Do you really think changing PM will change much of anything? Changing the entire ruling party from lib to lab barely changes anything. A PM change is almost inconsequential.

    • This is all wrong.

      It confuses the executive branch of government with the legislative.

      Even if the PM can’t get Parliament to pass a single piece of legislation, he commands all the executive power. that is easily enough to slash immigration.

    • Yes, but he only wields this power at the whim of the parliament, and his party. He doesn’t get to do whatever he wants for 3 years after being elected. Just ask Krudd, or Julia or abbot or …..

    • That’s right. Only while he is allowed to be PM by the party.

      Indeed, that is where that f.knuckle Turnbull went wrong. He should have announced big-bang policies during his first week in office & set a precedent.

      He chickened out and so was reduced to this sorry mess for the remainder of his term(s).

    • Which policies would those be? He seems like he is going to get rolled by his party for not building new coal fired power plants with tax payer money. Any reasonable policy probably would have seen him turfed out almost immediately

    • Nope. If he smashed migration and housing speculation immediately, he would have earned the level of popular support that would’ve made him immune to internal assassiantion.

      He blew it. As he would go on to blow many things and rich stakeholders.

    • The flogging of the dead horse company tax cuts should tell you how much sway popular support has in the liberal party. Donors and what they want are all that matter.


    • Donors and what they want are all that matter.

      That does seem to be the case, although one might think that given staying in power is a pre-requisite for giving donors what they want, appearing sufficiently interested in voters’ concerns to maintain power would be more of a concern than it evidently is.

    • Most of the big donors donate to both sides of politics fairly evenly, so no, staying in power is not the highest priority from the donors point of view, and they will quite happily withdraw funding and transfer to the other side if their wishes aren’t met.
      See the mining tax and KRudd for the power of corporate dollars to enact desired policy.
      The fact that corporate tax cuts haven’t made it through is probably a reflection of how little the big corporations actually care given they minimize tax to the point of many of them paying zero in Australia.

    • Most of the big donors donate to both sides of politics fairly evenly, so no, staying in power is not the highest priority from the donors point of view

      I wasn’t talking from the donors point of view – obviously they will give money to whomever they expect to be in power when they expect to need a favour.

      The mining tax failure may well be an example – they didn’t pay off some of the people with the ability to block it because they didn’t expect them to have that ability.

    • From the parties point of view, the advertising dollar provided by donors is more valuable and likely to lead to winning elections than popular policies. This may or may not be true, but based on observed behaviour of the parties they clearly think it’s true, and the Mining tax fiasco would seem to concur.

    • Yes, but that in no way means that unpopular policies don’t harm a party’s electoral chances. Clearly they do, or we wouldn’t be discussing the Liberal party’s descent into oblivion.
      In fact, I strongly suggest that if party apparatchiks in the Liberal party believe that attracting donor dollars for advertising is greatly more important than promoting policies that in some respect speak to voter concerns, this belief is very likely a big contributing factor to their very poor electoral and poll record against what ought to be a very weak opposition – because frankly, given the esteem the electorate held Gillard-Rudd by 2013, for the Coalition not have been twice as popular as JWH for the entire past five years since shows they are doing something very very wrong.

      Overall, it’s pretty clear that if they have been acting according to a set of beliefs regarding how to achieve electoral success, those beliefs must be very wrong.

    • The poor performance probably reflects a more fundamental underlying truth.
      When peoples living standards are increasing they see the people in power as responsible and political stability is the norm.
      When peoples living standards are falling they see the people in power as responsible and political instability is the norm as people seek someone to fix the problems.
      See the number of PM’s we have had in the last decade compared to the 30 years before that.
      We had Fraser, hawke, keating, howard
      then rudd Gillard rudd abbot turnbull
      4 Pm’s in 30 years to 5 pm’s in 10.

    • So now you’re basically saying the electorate will vote the incumbent in if they think the incumbents are doing a good job at delivering good living standards (irrespective, naturally, of whether the improved living standards relate to any government policy), and conversely will kick the incumbents every time if they think things have got worse (again, irrespective of whether this was due to actual policies) so in essence we agree – if the electorate thinks the current government has let them down to a great enough extent, all the advertising in the world won’t get the incumbents back in office.
      All I was trying to say really.
      In the mean time, if whoever’s in government next wants to stay there, they better work hard at delivering improved standards of living for the population at large, even if, as is almost certain, this will require policies that are contrary to donor wishes. Otherwise, keep doing what the donors want, and keep changing governments most elections while the cross bench grows (and as a result, donor influence wanes).

    • The real kicker though, is that policy that affects living standards in a meaningful way takes far longer than a single term of government for the effects to be felt. We are still receiving howard’s gifts that keep on giving today. People vote on the effects, and not the policy, so politicians today are being voted on based on policies put in place long ago rather than the policies they are presenting now.

  11. Incredible.

    MB is literally clamouring for Peter Dutton to take over on the slim chance he may reduce immigration.

    He would continue or exacerbate all the other various Coalition debacles.

    • It does seem a little odd, if not pathetic. Sell your soul to the devil only to realize after the fact that nothing will change. Mr Abbott who claimed to be anti immigration this whole time actually had it boosted under his watch.

      • Look, the boys here would like to see it resolved peacibly and with minimum havoc. It’s in their blood and part of their natural professional ambition, as economists.

        That’s why they pin their hopes on various non-solutions.

        Because the real solution, the final solution, is a great purging fire (to mix my Robespierre and Hitler references). They can’t get on board with that. Because getting on board with that is signalling professional defeat.

        It’s like Bob the builder admitting that he can’t fix it. It’s the complete destruction of the raison d’être…

        (Also the BurnItAllDown blog probably won’t get too many readers.)

      • I’ve heard MB described as bear porn before, and it seems an apt description a lot of the time. Maybe the BurnItAllDown blog would get more readers than you think.

      • If the reset leaves all the political and economic systems as they currently exist, then the reset will achieve nothing. See the bubbles reblowing all over the place post GFC for confirmation.

      • We can look forward to the world described in this http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manna_(novel)
        Unfortunately we are headed down the path to likely end up like the US of the story rather than the Australian Utopia.
        Representative democracy will almost certainly continue down this path, as it has always been about furthering the desires and powers of the aristocracy and elites while pacifying the unwashed masses.
        For any real change to happen, direct democracy or similar will be required.
        I try to figure out how things work and what is likely to happen rather than look forward to things.
        Hopes and dreams are what representative democracy is sold with, with staggering effectiveness.
        Dreaming of less immigration if we change PM yet again to Dutton is the complete embodiment of the complete lack of any sort of actual power or true representation of the masses in our current political system.

    • At this point, there is no other debacle. It all boils down to this, can anyone actually stop immigration? If not, nothing else will matter.

      • A lot else matters, and if it was dealt with immigration would decrease. Enforce anti money laundering laws. Find and pick up anyone that exploits their workers, both local and foreign. Bust the land bubble and watch those without derp ties to the country go to where they feel at home. Do all the above and adjyst the immigration policy to but with as little divisive authoritarian posturing as possible.

  12. Turdbull certainly needs to go and then duly resign. What an utter failure that imbecile has proven to be. Good riddance.

  13. i for one welcome our potato overlords

    if dutton cuts immigration by just 1 person id still want him over turnbull

    • stag

      You do realise that Mr Dutton currently is in charge of our migrant intake levels? He only has to say the word and thousands of immigration officials would start refusing the tens of thousands of visa applications currently in the works.

  14. It’s plainly obvious that Left and Right are 100% fake – the whole political system is corrupt. A full blown revolution where lives are lost will be the only thing that changes the complete bullshit we see each government/prime minister try to sell to the public. It’s out in the open now with the global end of fiat money here

    • Ronin8317MEMBER

      They would say something that makes sense before becoming PM, then do the exact opposite once they landed the job. The speech by MT about how Australian deserves more than 3 word slogans did not take 6 months to be repudiated.

      Dutton would be no different.

    • Unfortunately MB has drunk the cool aid and believes that the parliament and PM are here to represent the voters wishes. The cognitive dissonance of the complete lack of representation that is being displayed can only be resolved by believing that if only we change to the next guy then it will work the way I was told it worked when I was a kid.
      This same thought process played out across the entire population is what makes the Westminster democracy system such a powerful tool for furthering the 0.1% agenda while preventing revolution.

  15. OK – we needed to reduce immigration a couple of years ago, and it’s underlying a number of problems. But Dutton? Is this a subtle push to get the AUD back down? Dutton as PM? Even for 6 months. … Western civilisation really is doomed.

  16. A great lot of whinging about the ignorance if the supposed fake left occurs on these pages. The right, as it is represented by Dutton, Anning and co, also has its head so buried up it’s own clacker that it can’t see the country it supposedly knows what is best for. If Dutton becomes PM, and if he makes cuts to immigration his focus, he would also need to admit that Australia is a multicultural society. People may wish otherwise, but it just isn’t the case. To force changes from a white Australia position will be more destructive than useful. Any gains in livibility will be paid for with losses to our social cohesion and community.

    • FiftiesFibroShack

      White Australia got rejected when demographics where significantly more favourable to it. Just looking around my area, circle of friends, family, and most importantly the other kids my kids are friends with, it looks like an idea that is literally dying off as we speak. Outside of the current nostalgia drive from some aging bigots from the Joh era, plus the views held in some ethically isolated areas, how much support does it really have?

    • The abandonment of the European white immigration program was imposed on the Australian people about 1970 by the elites, there was no concern for what the people thought of this fukked ideology then, so there is no real reason they can’t change the immigration program back to at least a predominately European white intake, Fuk the progressive ‘multicultural’ Left traitors, fuk big business economic Right traitors.
      Australia was founded as a white nation and proudly progressed as a white nation, all the political party’s and prime ministers supported enthusiastically our white heritage.
      This bipartisan support for a white Australia continued till the white ant traitors began to infest the Immigration department in the mid 1960’s, resulting in the imposition of multiculturalism by the Whitlam government.
      To continue down the massive Third World ‘black’ immigration ideology is to commit a white genocide,
      It’s very simple we are basically a white nation and the immigration intake should reflect that,
      What i find extremely hypocritical, is how it is supposedly racist to have a white immigration program, however it is not racist to have an overwhelming ‘black;’ immigration program,
      If the Third World ‘black’ immigration program which has been in effect for the past 43 years and especially the last 18 years, is such a harmonious, beautiful thing, why is any critical debate, discussion a taboo topic.

  17. Don’t like him but he is the only Minister performing in his portfolio. The AAT needed a kick in the arse and we needed to start migration enforcement and reform. Only reason he hasn’t gone harder is because Treasury and Trigaboff et all have the Libs by the balls.

    The alternative is Open Borders Bowen and we all remember his disastrous performance as Immigration minister

  18. Be careful what you wish for.
    Dutton has the broad electoral appeal of RoundUp.
    There is no reason he would necessarily cut the immigration rate prior to an election.
    He is big Australia like the rest of them and was only recently using smoke and mirrors to claim he had made substantial immigration cuts.
    It is quite likely he could run for the next election on a pledge to cut immigration but be trounced nonetheless because he has no appeal and the Liberals are toast at this stage.
    That would then give carte blanche to the immigration boosters to say the people had rejected Dutton’s cuts and are all in favour of a big immigration program.

      • The population is being fed roundup at increasing rates due to GM modification of resistance into food crops and the interests of Large Agriculture. Maybe it really is an apt comparison.

      • The Liberal Party may well have the strongest record of all parties on that particular issue. The electorate certainly knows where they stand.

  19. Lol poor Virginia Trioli on ABC Breakfast – looked like she’d been throwing up off camera all morning at the thought of a Dutton PM.

    • HadronCollisionMEMBER

      Perhaps it’s because she was reflecting on her support for Carlton in the face of the Dees’ ascendancy.

  20. I’ll give Dutton a go.
    Perversely, low expectations might really help the guy as PM. It would be opposite to the unrealistic expectations when MT became PM.

    And yes, the first thing PM Dutton would do is cut immigration. Significantly.

    • He might even deliver th Peachy Plan of slashing migration of fake students and fake skilled immigrants and their family and fake-Medicare using bastards and INCREASING refugee intake, in order to look cuddlier.

      • The refugee intake will never be enough for the progressive Left, they are insatiable.
        I’d give them something to whinge about, I’d abandon the refugee resettlement program and spend the money at the overseas refugee camps – it’s six times more helpful to refugees than a ‘gold plated’ resettlement for a few in Australia,

  21. You can take the man out of the Goldman Sachs office, but you can’t take Goldman Sachs out the man. We all though he’d do well, but like everyone I was shocked at how bad he is as a politician, and in most cases even speaks worse than Tony Abbot. It didn’t instil confidence. His true elite nature was well on show and no idea about the struggle of ordinary Australians nor does his wife. You could even see Turnbull writing this for domain. How about the locals struggling to buy a home? Epic fail. It’s a re run of Rudd Gillard as well. I’m with you on the theme of the post. Regardless, at the next election I’m preferencing the minors as my disgust is wide and deep.

    https://www.domain.com.au/news/australian-property-industry-turns-to-india-to-supplement-falling-chinese-investment-20180817-h144l7-758736/?utm_campaign=strap-masthead&utm_source=the-age&utm_medium=link&utm_content=pos2&ref=pos1

  22. sydboy007MEMBER

    Is it wrong for Dutton to highlight South African farmers are likely to have their lands taken by force by the government with no compensation. Is it wrong for white South Africans to feel their rainbow main has no interest in protecting them when black politicians openly sing kill the boer, kill the farmer? Is it wrong to think maybe white South Africans would adopt the Australian way lot life not readily than other immigrants? Sure Dutton has the nuance of a dead fish, but even a dead fish will sometimes point in the right direction.

    As for the Sudanese gangs, well it’s as much semantics over they’re not really gangs, so call them Sudanese thug mobs. To the people being attacked and having their peppery destroyed do they care if the youth feel like they’re a gang or just hyping each other up to go their separate ways after. Sudanese youths were vastly over-represented in the 2015 crime data, responsible for 7.44 per cent of home invasions, 5.65 per cent of car thefts and 13.9 per cent of aggravated robberies, despite Sudanese-born citizens making up about 0.11 per cent of Victoria’s population. Maybe it’s like Europe and it’s all males, but you might be talking about 0.06% of the population.

    Is it wrong to think to yourself why allow more to come in when the ones already here seem intent on making their new home into the kind of sheethole they fled from?

    • I concur 100% with all of that.

      Imagine the crowing from the Vic cops and gummint if they could boast of ohh…I dunno…reducing aggravated assaults by 14% overnight. That would be of mammoth social benefit, and it could be easily achieved simply by not importing savagely violent losers into our country, and vigorously ejecting the savagely violent losers we’ve made the mistake of importing so far.

      • Most of the alleged perpetrators are Australian born offspring of people who immigrated here in the ’90s, or people who migrated as very young children, so an overnight change of any sort seems pretty unlikely.

      • The Melbourne LGA – the CBD plus North Melbourne and more recently, Docklands, is probably the part of greater Melbourne where it’s hardest to find any Sudanese origin people.
        A big chunk of homocides in 2017 are presumably due to Mr Gargasoulas.

  23. reusachtigeMEMBER

    I will always vote for the Liberal party as they are the only party that will protect the profits of hard working people!

    • FiftiesFibroShack

      And that face is white, starchy, and best left in a cool dry place, away from direct sunlight.

    • …and realise that we’ve always loved the potato – mashed, fried, in the jacket – and with white bread and dead horse. Let’s face it, a QLD copper who worked in the drug and sex offenders squad must have better connections than a merchant banker.

  24. As far as I can tell, the LNP have nobody else but Dutton. So if the options are continue with Trumble to oblivion, or gamble on Dutton then I reckon they’ll gamble on Dutton because PM Pyne, or PM Bishop are laughable propositions.

    I also think that Dutton would be a viable PM. Call me crazy, but I’m starting to see him as an Australian version of Trump. Everybody bagged Trump and said he had a snowball’s chance in Hell, and look how that’s gone.

    I’m not saying I support Dutton, but we seem to be entering an age of “Strong Man” political leaders across the West, and I think Dutton could play that card and appeal to a lot of people.

    You heard it here first.

  25. Dutton means the same failed policies the LNP already have, promoted with even less charisma.
    Can’t see it working out that well either for the country, or for the LNP at the next election.

    Three different PMs since taking office – it would hobble the Liberals for years after.

  26. Every cartoonist in the country wants Dutton as PM. It’s too good to be true, Voldemort our PM, think of the memes 🙂

  27. The Libs will stick with Turnbull or lose badly.
    The only possible leader I can think of who does not lose the middle is Julie Bishop. There is quite a history of putting in a woman when things look unwinnable.
    Sticking with Turnbull may also mean losing, but maybe, and only maybe, not badly.
    Dutton would lose badly, as would Abbott or Morrison – all have too much baggage to my mind.

    • Women do seem to be the go to option when a failing party is looking for a fall guy – it’s how Victoria got its first female premier, for example.

    • Putting in a woman to catch the falling knife has been a common theme in Aussie politics and in many other areas. It’s an interesting thought, regarding Bishop.

  28. On the subject of the NEG – while the federal government has failed by lacking leadership, lets not forget that the states must take the lions share of the blame when it comes to energy prices. They are hell bent on privatising electricity and then complain when it costs more. Add to that the massive layers of bureaucracy that result and the gold plating we hear of and you have a right mess.

  29. I think the exact opposite, you get creepy Pete in there on an anti-immigration platform before he gets rolled and you’ll have the worst of the Labor party pandering to lost Greens about the repudiation of that message by the Australian people for the next 3 years.

  30. 2GB vote update (3,500 votes counted):
    Mal – 5%;
    Dutts – 32%
    Bishop: 2%;
    Tony: 60%;
    ScomMo: 1%

    It’s Abbott or nothing. Dutton can’t save enough furniture.

  31. Peter Dutton ranked as worst health minister in 35 years in poll of doctors
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jan/12/peter-dutton-ranked-as-worst-health-minister-in-35-years-in-poll-of-doctors

    The Australian Doctor article quotes Tasmanian GP Dr Donald Rose as saying: “Dutton will be remembered as the dullest, least innovative and most gullible for swallowing the reforms from his thinktank … Although I am glad he has been demoted, it would have been good if he was still around to take responsibility for the current chaos he has caused.”