Alexander Downer: Cut immigration

Did he just say it? At the AFR:

It’s not that the public are opposed outright to immigration. All but a handful of extremists know immigration is necessary and inevitable. All they ask for is for immigration to be properly managed.

Remember the old Howard slogan: we decide who comes to our country and the circumstances in which they come. Well, living in Europe for the last four years has reminded me of the wisdom of managed migration.

The public, wherever they are, don’t want tens of thousands of migrants overwhelming public facilities, creating ghettos, causing social tensions and disharmony. They want a degree of order. They want migrants who can integrate into their societies, respect the local law, get jobs, and engage in the social, artistic and sporting lives of their countries. They can’t do that if they don’t speak the local language, don’t take up jobs and abuse the generous welfare safety net, set up their own shops, schools and sports clubs in exclusive neighbourhoods.

I think the old drag queen just called for a cut in immigration but I can’t be sure. He seems equally to be calling for segregated immigration.

The issue is not migrants at all. It is standards of living. Immigration must be managed to improve locals standards of living. If it is, then the public will support it. If it isn’t, then they won’t. That’s the end of the issue.

In Australia it is very poorly managed, with wages tumbling, until recently house prices soaring and infrastructure as well as public services being crush-loaded.

Given our governments have proven themselves unable to keep pace with the intake, the public anger will keep growing until someone very popular cuts it back.

Comments

  1. lol at trying to say people who dont think immigration is “necessary” and “inevitable” (its inevitable bc ppl like u let it happen en masse mr downer) are extremists

    hate when these self-proclaimed “moderate” goons come in and try to delimit what’s okay to think and not think

    buzz off downer, we don’t need people like you to “manage” the conversation anymore, go home, never come back

    • bolstroodMEMBER

      Now c’mmon Stagmal, be fair , Daddy Downer is trying to get his girl a job.
      Y’know, one where you don’t need any qualifications , short working hours, good pay, great retirement plan.
      What else is a father meant to do?

  2. “The public, wherever they are, don’t want tens of thousands of migrants overwhelming public facilities, creating ghettos, causing social tensions and disharmony. They want a degree of order. They want migrants who can integrate into their societies, respect the local law, get jobs, and engage in the social, artistic and sporting lives of their countries.”

    But, but, but that’s just sooooo racist! I mean, soooooooo bigoted. And just when we were discussing how our children can enjoy high rise schools, a chicken battery lifestyle and ghettos with diversity, diversity, diversity on tap.

    Time for Anus Bollocks and Dr Liz Allen to put this PR bushfire out with another air drop of truth retardant. Push the big red button Anus Bollocks and give your ex employer a call and shut him up. Slide down the spin-doctor fire pole and into the black Mercedes and organise a lunch – like the overfed Batman of Bullshit that you are.

    Scramble the Bullshit Manufacturing A-team.

    Manufacture another series of fake websites and an immigration compact/strategy/plan/roadmap/scoping document/steering committee documents. Find a few more corridor-wandering nomad “academics” at ANU (lost souls from the marketing, social and gender studies area) and put their gormless mugshots next to the word “expert” and serve them up to our excruciatingly poxy media as “demographers”.

    Drop a few more brown paper bags full of cash off at ANU as “research funds” for the retired “Dr Demography” so he can afford some more dental work as he discredits the university by taking cash for academic comment.

    Otherwise Alexander is going to ruin it for you and your mates at the Corporate Psychopath Club.

  3. He forgot to mention that it was Howard who ramped up the numbers while creating tropical gulags and torturing people for political gain. Labor haven’t been any better since Howard, but he was the instigator.

    • drsmithyMEMBER

      Just reads like an anti-refugee dog whistle to me. The implied point is that none of the people coming in through the approved channels would have those negative qualities because, if they did, they obviously wouldn’t be allowed in.

      Only the people we “must” allow in would be antisocial, welfare leeching, strangers-in-a-strange-land.

  4. kiwikarynMEMBER

    “They want migrants who can integrate into their societies, respect the local law, get jobs, and engage in the social, artistic and sporting lives of their countries.”
    We do. However, there are only so many Olympic medals you can win in Badminton and Table Tennis.

    • Hey, if beach volleyball can make the cut, you’d imagine it won’t be long before they have 5m Board Money Laundering and 1000m People Smuggling events. Then Australia will be back in the running!

    • “Skilled” immigrants are allowed to be obese cigarette addicts.

      Far from improving Australia’s Olympic performance, they are going to soon show up in hospital emergency rooms with diseased lungs.

  5. Everyone knows it’s out of control, everyone can see theres is hardly an Aussie left in the cbd of Sydney, everyone knows there’s too many migrants and the place is going to sh!t, everyone knows it ffs

  6. I don’t see how that piece is a call for a cut to immigration, it comes across to me to be anti non-english speaking migration, coz the wogs won’t assimilate and will ‘rune’ the country.

  7. I don’t think he likes darkies. Prefers proper Englishmen move to Australia, stiff upper lip and all that.

  8. “The public, wherever they are, don’t want tens of thousands of migrants overwhelming public facilities, creating ghettos, ,,, can’t do that if they don’t speak the local language, don’t take up jobs and abuse the generous welfare safety net, set up their own shops, schools and sports clubs in exclusive neighbourhoods.”

    Well if you run a permanent immigration program based overwhelmingly on an Asianisation ideology, that is what will happen.
    Running a massive permanent immigration program for a ‘short’ time is reckless, but salvageable, however running an ideological on going massive Asian permanent immigration program will be the end for Australia.
    This is the discussion Australia and the West refuse to face, so the only alternative is to bring in a no immigration intake program.
    The people need to be given the unbiased facts where we are heading under the present immigration program, so they can freely chose to be an Asian society or an overwhelmingly European society.
    However, it’s highly unlikely the treacherous government and their treacherous ‘elite’ masters will allow the people a say till their ideological Asian society is a fait accompli

  9. Population (and its primary driver, immigration) will decide the next federal election… hey Malcolm!!? What’s your policy on #Population ? or is open debate on the topic off limits? #Trumball #BigAustralia #Ponzi #DickSmithFairGo

  10. astrolinMEMBER

    Maybe this is related to his daughters by election, he can talk against unpopular policy, she can not

  11. adelaide_economistMEMBER

    There’s no reduction in immigration coming unless more people vote outside the three majors. 30% of the population are smart enough to do so but the preferential system means your vote goes straight back to the majors until enough people are voting for alternatives and independents to flip this system of consent manufacturing on its head.

    These pathetic soundbites chucked out there by people like Downer have zero impact on the actual policy and they know it – it’s purely political positioning. Even when it’s people in ‘power’ – be it Dutton or Ardern (in NZ) – you can see the vested interests are overwhelming in maintaining the status quo.

  12. they don’t speak the local language, don’t take up jobs and abuse the generous welfare safety net, set up their own shops, schools

    We hate them because they take jobs here!

    I do not care if immigrants are on welfare for life.

    Heck, many immigrants are on welfare due to 457 visas issued by Gillard. The immigrants who came over in the 1980s and 1990s are being destroyed by exam cheats and visa frauds who came over after 2008.

  13. But he is touching on a relevant point. It is just not the numbers, it is the composition.

    There does need to be an overarching Australian culture (which is a blend of cultures, developed over decades of immigration), to which new arrivals need to assimilate into.

    • Yes, it’s the composition that’s the real problem.
      You can always stop immigration to bring population growth down, however decades of bringing in immigrants that change the face of the country, are with us forever.