Depressed Millennials need a political party

Via The Guardian:

Australian millennials increasingly think big businesses and politicians do more harm than good, a new survey has found.

The annual Deloitte survey of Generation Y, roughly defined as those born between 1983 and 1994, found they were increasingly sceptical of politics but surprisingly more personally optimistic than last year.

Of the 337 Australian millennials surveyed, only 45% believed business had a positive impact on society, down from 72% last year. Almost half – 44% – believed businesses behaved ethically, down from 54%.

The scorecard for politicians was even worse – 63% of Australian millennials believed politicians have a negative impact on society. Only 23% said they had a positive impact.

But compared to last year, Australians were much more optimistic about their personal futures, when measuring against their baby boomer parents.

More than a third (39%) believed they would be better off than their parents, and 35% said they would be happier. While this was still below the global average (51% and 41% respectively), it was a huge upturn from last year, when only 8% thought they would be better off than their parents.

The top five issues of personal concern were: terrorism (31%), climate change and the environment (30%), income inequality (24%), unemployment (23%) and war (22%).

Did the survey even ask about house prices? It should have, via Domainfax:

Siobhan Joffe says the Australian dream of owning a house is so far out of reach that she softens the blow by spending her money on eating out and travel.

A new survey has found Australian millennials like her are pessimistic about the future with only about 35 per cent believing they will be happier than their parents.

“Ideally, the security of owning a house would be awesome but it’s becoming more and more unrealistic at this point,” the 22-year-old advertising student who works as a barista said.

“A lot of young people just expect that it’s not going to be on the cards for them so you use your money on things like food, going out, travel and enjoying your life instead.”

A federal Australian Youth Party is an idea long overdue. Perhaps rather than enjoying experiences some enterprising Millennial could start it. It should:

  • be liberal in both social and economic policy;
  • push housing market reform to outright lower prices;
  • campaign for sustainable immigration and visa reform (about half current levels) to open entry level job positions to locals kids;
  • force the Budget to re-adjust its priorities to include redress of legacy debt and push back the War on Youth;
  • dedicate Australia to fulsome decarboniation and environmental protections.

It would be an absolute Greens and Labor killer forcing both party’s policy platforms towards its positions.

I first put this idea forward five years ago. Stop snapping selfies and get on with it!


    • Yes
      Reason (and Fiona Patten) are impressive.
      Alternatives to the majors abound.

      • HadronCollision

        What does alternatives to the majors look like though?

        Protest votes? Waste.
        A party with a real chance of becoming a proper third force (the Greens are not really a proper third force beyond random successes as seeding the Banking RC, etc)

  1. BrentonMEMBER

    They don’t want to know about it, they don’t care. Can tell you as someone that’s politically active, economic issues, for some unbelievably frustrating reason, are a non starter. Would have more luck founding the Vegan’s of Australia Party.

    I feel it will take a Fourth Turning style event to snap people out of their apathy.

    • Brenton, what is the point of a youth party when Di Natale recently gave a speech in which he demanded UBI and “The Australian Greens have called on federal Labor to take a stance on ownership of the nation’s electricity grid, after unveiling a policy proposal that would seek to return the largely privatised grid to public hands.”

      The youth unemployment rate is probably 50% due to the 457 visa rort and Abbott tried to take away the dole from all voters under the age of 25!

      The current welfare bill is enough to put in a UBI of A$9500/year! Pretty sure that excludes negative gearing. Get rid of negative gearing and the UBI can be a lot higher without raising any extra taxes.

  2. LabrynthMEMBER

    Unless you have been groomed for politics since 10 years old, there are likely so many gremlins lurking around the web, on old phones, of most youth doing something stupid. Sure a great candidate can shrug it off but you are not competing with other youth, you are competing against Gen X and Boomers from other political parties who will use it to crush you.

    Also, the ‘youth’ means something different to everyone, is youth 10 years old, 20 years old? You sure as hell won’t get anyone over 30 voting for you. Youth Party is as bad as Sustainable Australia, seems like a fringe party. If you are going down that course might as well call yourself the under 55’s party.

  3. haroldusMEMBER

    Depression? Depression? When we were a lad we would have been grateful for depression!

    We had grunge! Name a single happy grunge band! Lead singers almost all dead!

  4. BrentonMEMBER

    Once upon a time, there were these politically active hotbeds called Universities. Seeing the potential that these facilities had to organize push back for younger cohort’s, the government sort to, and indeed, did crush the student unions largely responsible for funding and organizing this push-back. Now one wonders where a similar institution might be formed for bringing intellectually inclined young people together? I sure as hell can’t see one.

    • TailorTrashMEMBER

      Universities now corporatised and sold to a new more docile lot of “clients “ who are programmed in their own countries to be obedient and are focused on getting their PR path to citazenship and a foot on the property ladder . No time for them to be questioning and pushing for social change (if they even understand the society they have been transplanted to ) …..and in their way they are changing that society …….and it’s not always for their eventual benefit let alone the locals .

  5. Our son may be typical of his generation. He sees the almost total domination of the Au media by Murdoch as the death of hope for change through the political system. I agree with him unfortunately.

    • truthisfashionable

      I kind of feel that is one of the largest impediments to democracy in Australia, UK, USA.
      How do you compete with such a well entrenched propaganda organization like the mudoch media?

      Even labor can’t seem to get a reasonable run, which is incredibly frustrating when the daily tele is purchased by those who would be better off under their policies.

      This all feeds into a feeling of hopelessness, there can never be representation because all the outlets are against it and use their entrenched control to remove or undermine you and your ideas.

  6. Ajaydee73MEMBER

    Avocado munching no-hopers. There should be a youth tax to fund tax rebates for people over 45.

  7. I agree with the need for representation of the young, they have been shafted. Yet whenever a group like Get Up tries to anything they are blasted by the armchair backbenchers in websites like this because they advocate things that are perceived as radical, and therefore nonsense to us. Also, how involved are the majority of the other demographics with the political process? The majors may sell to them but my friends and older just do as much signalling on FB. Especially my retired family members.

  8. DarkMatterMEMBER

    The flaw with this argument is that political parties may be a thing of the past. Gen Y (and an increasing number of everyone else) do not see the political process as anything more than another broken relic of centuries past.

    Very few people see this. How can you have a viable political process when almost nobody actually believes that the system works? Politics has become a sort of kabuki theatre of the absurd. Gen Y mostly believe in the Internet. There are no specific details, but it is more a vague hope that being connected will somehow wash the world clean of the current junk. You may think this is folly, but is it any more foolish than the establishment fixation on eternal growth?

    All the rear view mirror logic in the world will not change the way Gen Y sees the world we built for them. They have mostly accepted crypto (in some form) as the future. They accept that there will be no jobs. They think we will have electric cars and probably go to Mars. There is no clear way how any of this will work, but the main attraction is that it is the opposite of what sensible, middle aged people believe.

    Gen Y has already voted with their iphones – the world of “old people” is a dud.

    • Exactly this. I’m in the generation and this anecdotally is how most peeople in my age feel. Unfortunately I do believe it is naive to the extreme – the belief that technology will save them from all the world’s problems. Technology serves the people with the means to invest in it; and due to its capital costs (arms race) and ecosystem effects eventually consolidates into oligopolies as the industry ages in my view. What’s no to say that the “old guys” aren’t the biggest drivers in the technology changes happening or aren’t the biggest winners in this? Workforce casualisation and AI replacing jobs; globalisation/technology improvements leading to a truly globalised third-world workforce, etc. Most technological change has affected the middle and lower classes negatively for the past 50 years as it gets rid of the local workforce advantage and opens up the global cheaper workforce where labor is not so scarce anymore.

  9. I don’t think another party will add any value.
    How much media or real ‘power’ does SPP have?
    I’m convinced we need direct democracy to increase engagement – I know that if I had a chance to be involved in the democratic process (more than once every 4yrs) I’d relish the chance to hold the spivs in Canberra to the will of the people.
    The only issue is getting it on the agenda

    • Whenever I have had the chance I have drawn attention to the fact that we don’t really have a democracy (we only pretend to ourselves that we do). I wheel out the arguments presented by MB reader Stephen Morris in support of why we should have direct democracy. The reaction? You would not believe the resistance! Again from people that are well educated professionals! We are a conservative society and people are afraid of change and they automatically think the citizen initiatives would be unworkable/too expensive and any lame excuse you they can think of. People also in general are unaware of the sheer level of corruption that occurs in politics- most people are disengaged from politics and take a rather Panglossian view.
      I really hope that direct democracy gets on the agenda- but can’t see it happening anytime soon.

  10. The policy aims outlined above have merit, but why alienate the majority of voters who might want to vote for it but aren’t in the under-35 demographic? Call it Fair Go Australia, call it A Better Australia, call it anything except ‘Fuck off, wrinklies!’.

  11. Just look at the top concerns for youth – they are mostly issues catered for by the Greens. In my experience, speaking as a millennial, most of my fellow millenials are extreme green and like the greens have absolutely NO IDEA about economics and especially the economics of making housing more affordable. The scary part is many of them are highly educated; doctors, physios, lawyers etc. There is no hope. Until the end of cycle shock happens nothing is going to wake millenials from their latte sipping avocado toast eating identity politics stupor.

    • Unfortunately for today’s youth, they have all been brainwashed by the progressive left education system.
      Long ago the ‘elites’ dictated Australia’s economic future must be with Asia -Asianisation- and the key to ensure the success and continuing success of this ideology was the transformation of the education system to remove resistance to the massive changes this ideology will have on Australian society.
      For eighteen year the government has flooded Australia with even greater rates of massive Asian immigration, hence housing affordability, proper jobs and decent wages are taken away from today’s young.
      However the brainwashing has worked, they aren’t rising up, they just can’t see what has been done to them.
      All Australian needs them to wake up. But they can’t wake up, they learn’t it at school so it must true.

      Australia needs a great orator

    • Im in! Problem I see is how do you get a group of honest, logical thinking people willing to sacrifice their own for the majority and get enough votes to form government? Our political system is geared for party system. Only option is to take over a party, but they will kill us first. And I dont have millions to fund campaign so this is why nothing changes. The impediments are huge but Im willing to start something. Count me in for the revolution…

      • No car, can’t afford that and I’m an Xer. When I say can’t afford, I mean in cash, not debt. have a small business, rents going up by 60% because everything is under construction and the ‘skilled’ visa holders pay whatever to open up a cafe or newsagent so they can get their visa. That is how corrupt it all is, from housing to commercial to industrial, little guy got no chance anymore.

      • Only because you asked, Peachy – while you may be #3, 007 is reserved for you. I’ve set an email address up at [email protected] so get in touch.

        Anyone else can too of course! HnH?

  12. Don’t know why this is limited to Millennials. I’m so depressed about the future I find myself hoping they legalise voluntary euthanasia in WA asap so that I can escape.

  13. millenials need a hero.

    they someone who cares.

    they need stagmal.

    i am going to start my own political party.

  14. I would have thought Sustainable is the party that young (and old) people should be voting for. Lower immigration would mean lower house prices and it would be better for the environment. But of course it brings out the politically incorrect conscience that would haunt millennials thinking they are voting for “racism”.

    In any case, why do we need yet another party? It’s going to be a Labor led or LNP led govt, with a few Greens shoved in, and maybe a PHON member or two. And therefore the choice will be clear – either a Big Australia or a Big Australia. It’s not going to make any difference.

    • +1
      Paul and Georgi above should look at the Sustainable Australia’s policies on their website. Better to join with like minded people who have made some, albeit small, headway rather than start from scratch.

      • I have and emailed a basic question but got no reply. The question was, what other macro economic policies do you propose to cushion the decreasing housing, got nothing back which suggests to me more of a slogan party. We need a bunch of people with a well thought out list of policies that can stand up to scrutiny. Merely saying small australia doesn’t cut it. You will get thrashed

      • @Georgi, I have emailed & snail mailed (thinking that might make a difference) libs/ALP and virtually never get a reply. I think the only topic I got a response for was live animal exports. Anything about housing affordability or population doesn’t seem to get a response.

        The SAP website does go into a bit of detail about a range of policies

        I expect you will get a reply at some stage, but I don’t think they have people manning the phones or waiting to respond to emails.

      • I tend to agree however I believe Sustainable Australia has too many vague connotations – and i’m not referring to their policies, but brand perception.

  15. Millennials have been hoodwinked by political correctness, man bags and avocado – no wonder they are depressed. Ever wonder why so many millennial men grow beards? Are they all wannabe Muslims, or are they all betas trying to get in touch with something masculine?

    Seriously, Western culture is in decline – the Boomers lived through the high point with the most opportunity any humans have ever had and likely ever will have again for a very long time.They squandered much of this opportunity because, well, they are humans and humans are deeply flawed. Millennials just need to mature and trade their depression for the more rational misanthropy that gen X is embracing.

    • Heh @ Wannabe Muslims.

      Look at the “Mouse Utopia” experiments of John B. Calhoun ( )

      “After day 600, the social breakdown continued and the population declined toward extinction. During this period females ceased to reproduce. Their male counterparts withdrew completely, never engaging in courtship or fighting. They ate, drank, slept, and groomed themselves – all solitary pursuits. Sleek, healthy coats and an absence of scars characterized these males. They were dubbed “the beautiful ones.” Breeding never resumed and behavior patterns were permanently changed.

      The conclusions drawn from this experiment were that when all available space is taken and all social roles filled, competition and the stresses experienced by the individuals will result in a total breakdown in complex social behaviors, ultimately resulting in the demise of the population.”
      “Calhoun saw the fate of the population of mice as a metaphor for the potential fate of man. He characterized the social breakdown as a “second death,” with reference to the “second death” mentioned in the Biblical book of Revelation 2:11.
      His study has been cited by writers such as Bill Perkins as a warning of the dangers of the living in an “increasingly crowded and impersonal world.”

      • The beautiful ones – next time I pass a scar-less millennial man in his overly tight tan pants and checked shirt, I will laugh on the inside – a lot 😀

        I have seen commentary about increases in homosexuality being attributed to current high human population levels – but as they are still breeding like rabbits in developing nations, I assume it is more likely related to this non breeding beatification cycle Western millennials are in.

        There are psychological studies, I’m sure, that show humans are best in societies of around 100 – that in groups that size we find more meaningful roles and mental gratification.

        I guess, put simply, the mice like current humans became overabundant and decadent. That there is something written about it in a mythological text, suggests to me that we have been there before and know the signs.

  16. As one of the millennial peeps, I think another party will just divide the cause. I think simply joining a political party and advocacy on issues is better and avoids the accusations of belonging to some awful party by the opponent’s.

    Whether you are a Lib, Nat, Greens or ALP, SAP or PHON or whatever, just pick it and push on the issues. The SAP Victoria party I was at over the weekend was depressing in how much work needs to be done to get the party in a viable state (only 570 members in VIC) and how it was primarily people over 50.

    Not sure yet whether one can actually join multiple parties. At the moment, ALP looks a bit pricey for me but thinking pushing the Greens might be of use, since once the high and mighty change, the debate is done and the majors will have to re-evaluate their position.