Volvo abandons internal combustion engine

Via Reuters:

Geely-owned Volvo Car Group said on Wednesday all new models launched from 2019 will be fully electric or hybrids, spelling the eventual end to nearly a century of Volvos powered solely by the internal combustion engine.

The Gothenburg-based company will continue to produce pure combustion-engine Volvos from models launched before that date, but said it would introduce cars across its model line-up that ranged from fully electric cars to plug-in hybrids.

Volvo’s plans make it the first major traditional automaker to set a date for the complete phase-out of combustion-engine-only models though electrification has long been a buzzword across the industry and Elon Musk’s Tesla Motors has been a pure-play battery carmaker from day one.

“This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car,” Volvo Cars Chief Executive Hakan Samuelsson said in a statement.

Five new models set to be launched in 2019 through 2021 – three of them Volvos and two Polestar-branded – will all be fully or partially electric.

A Chinese Volvo with no internal combustion engine. What is the world coming to?

Now, bring on that Strayan coal-fired power station.


  1. I recently went for my first drive in a Tesla, somewhat interestingly I didn’t drive it. It was my Uber trip from Sunnyvale CA to SFO Airport. Man WHAT A CAR! Just awesome. The uber driver was only doing Uber to pay it off. He loves the car, says it’s low maintenance and he charges it using solar panels on his roof. What’s not to like?

    I’ve started looking at what job roles are on offer at Tesla. Electric and Solar is the future.

      • The Traveling Wilbur

        Is there a $1.20/l floor under petrol by any chance?

        *waves at Mike*

      • Mining BoganMEMBER

        And look at that style! Those chaps look rather spiffing indeed.

        Whack that motor in an old cortina and that is taking off down Frankston way.

      • It is so insanely stupid what is happening in Oz hey HnH… jokes is all we have left to prevent us from crying.

        It’s no longer a debate about Climate Change either, it is about whether you will be able to participate in the future economy. Australia won’t, because a handful of companies bribed politicians.

    • BrentonMEMBER

      Yep, truly pushing boundaries imo. Naysayers are constantly bashing Tesla stocks as overvalued, but I could give 2 tosses, I have them out of principle.

      I wish they’d hurry up and get the tesla 3 pumping out. No doubt Oz won’t see them for ages, but better late than never.

      • I guess it depends if you believe first mover advantage is more important than an established customer base. As Volvo is showing the majors are going to convert to electric. I’m not a psychic but teslas car sales may come Under pressure… which makes the catch up to the annual car sales required to justify its ridiculous share price all that harder to achieve.

    • > What’s not to like?

      Having to be an Uber driver in your spare time to depreciate/pay off its’ massive price?

      • Careful, there is no reasoning with the true believers.

        Yeah putting thousands of extra miles on your Tesla (and risk of non-caring passenger wear and tear) simply to pay it off!
        I suppose if you like driving in city traffic that much all the best, everyone got to have a hobby, I just wish people would stop pretending it is a viable business.

      • The Uber driver wasn’t doing Uber as his full time gig. It was a side gig he did at nights to earn extra cash to help pay for his car. He said both he and the wife had a Tesla both loved them. He told me he had a ZR1 Corvette before with about 700HP (Supercharged LS3 I think?) anyway he said he loved it but man it drank fuel. He said the Tesla was quicker and much more efficient to run.

      • In 5-10 years you will just turn on your Tesla’s autopilot and it will ferry people around for you (for money) while you’re at the office.

    • American company with a belief that their employees should put their employer first.

      Go for it, but don’t expect to visit Australia in your holidays because you won’t get any.

      • I’m already working for an American Company, so I know the cultural values. At times I do feel burnt out. Like right about now. I’ll be 10 years next year with the same company. I’m at the moment sort of holding out for long service leave. I might use the time off to work solidly on my restoration project (old Datsun 240z) and try get it as close to ready for the road as possible.

        After that god knows what I’ll do next…. depends on how things look in a year I suppose. Got a re-org coming up. Hope it’s for the best this time..

    • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

      What’s the range compared to a hybrid like the Prius?

      Next generation Diesels engins are getting amazingly efficient, any hybrids got them yet?

      Not sure how many litres per 100km, these guys are using but I think the guy in the blue vehicle (24 secs in) is probably getting the best milage

  2. BrentonMEMBER

    Sign me up for an affordable electric volvo. Legends! It’s an especially significant move when the world is drowning in an oil glut.

    “Now, bring on that Strayan coal-fired power station.”
    bahaha, 10/10

  3. haroldusMEMBER

    do those polestars have a little rack on the parcel shelf for the bowls hat?

    and blinkers opposite wired?

      • ‘oh ‘eh faaaa?!
        ‘at hur’ ‘ike faaa!!

        ‘y ‘ood ‘ou ‘ell ‘e ‘o ‘o ‘ah?
        ‘ou owe ‘e a ‘ew ‘ounge!

      • Nah – pink bits mate! it will look like a cigarette-lighter socket – only larger, and placed at the back of the car…

  4. I hate coal power stations. Banish them.

    Ban 99% of new houses from getting a polluting woodfire.

    But who would buy a fully electric Polestar car?

    Anyway, there is no need to ban naturally aspirated Lamborghinis – hardly anyone can afford a Lamborghini anyway.

    Go after 2-stroke lawn mowers, hydrocarbon powered forklift trucks, oil burning cargo ships, and coal power stations instead. The ugly stuff that nobody dreams of owning.

    Let the 450 odd Bugatti Veyrons on the planet live on.

    • reusachtigeMEMBER

      “Ban 99% of new houses from getting a polluting woodfire.” … agreed… and ban bloody high-flow water pipes and taps and replace them with extremely light sprays!! Better still, damp cloths only. The more sh1t banned the better everyone’s lives will be.

    • >(…) Ban 99% of new houses from getting a polluting woodfire.

      Normally I would agree with you… however… You might want to sort out the thermal efficiency of the joints you’ve just banished heating from…

      Also … I can tell you one thing – f-in try to live in a place where gas is about as expensive as gold, and electricity just went up 25% … About that time burning wood sounds like a brilliant idea.

      Where I am now $1800/winter in power or gas bills is not unheard of as an expense to try to stay warm.

      Try that vs. $150/2months of wood… probably another $150 to get me out of winter.

      • HadronCollision

        I have two trailer loads of cut mango and other timber you can HAVE if you’re up Ballina way. Sitting in the tractor shed. We don’t have a wood fire. Just reverse cycle Daikin. And insulation coming.

    • FeknameMEMBER

      I’ve no problem with banning woodfire heaters in populated areas (its hell for asthmatics), but they’re otherwise not a source of pollution. The carbon they put into the atmosphere is young carbon from trees (tens to hundreds of years old) not old carbon (from millions of years ago). So no net contribution.

      I use wood myself, its fucking great. No possibility of me freezing during a storm due to loss of power or gas.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        Yes, I got rid of the wood fire in our lounge room, shortly after we purchased it 15 years ago,..We rented it for 5 years before and were sick of cutting down wood to fit in this cast iron potbelly stove with a small door on it.

        But our Gas and electricity bill has been hideous in the last few winters and I am now thinking of putting a wood fireed heater back in,…with a bigger door on it this time.

      • @Ermington Stoving (he-he-he)

        Do it! Doooo iiiiit!

        Yeah – I think it’s great. Honestly – I always loved a fire place. It’s just great. Evenings – I watch the fire in the stove more than I watch TV. It’s a lot more entertaining and calming.

        I don’t know what things used to be in the past here… stoves I was used to were made out of a mine car (like one of these: ) with a steel 15mm plate welded to the top, base removed, door cut into the front and filled with a veneer of firebricks on the inside. That thing never missed a beat! Easy to feed too – as you could put in wood blocks as you cut them, no splitting required. 🙂

        Anyways – where was I? Oh yes – I don’t know how things used to be in the past here, but I find the current stoves available on the market reasonably good quality. YMMV

      • Yeah the old wet-back used to be the go, especially with a hot-water cylinder that was electric heated and house full of kids to bath. Really took the load off in the winter time.
        Never calculated the economics but it did the job well, probably not as efficient as gas boost hot water.

      • Tannins in wood fires is actually a toxin, studies on less advance civilization bares out the shortened life span from its use.

      • FeknameMEMBER

        @EP – Yeh I got the wetback in mine. Throw in a rainwater tank..I don’t need electricity to be warm, able to drink, and have a hot shower.

        That is interesting about the tannins, but I don’t spend a lot of time breathing in smoke. Im not sure that LNG production or coal mining come without their own health risks. Granted using electricity or gas for my heating doesnt put me at risk of that stuff. Only the miners.

      • ErmingtonPlumbing:

        If you like projects…Consider building one to heat water – outside preferably.

        For heat exchange, wind copper pipe around the potbelly. For inside, old car radiators should work. Just don’t let the system get too hot. <100*c for obvious reasons. Electric water pump, vent control, couple of fans, and an emergency (pressure/temp) water dump valve. Probably more fun than gas.

    • Yeah leave my dirty wankel rotary alone! I love the smell of 2 stroke in the morning! 😀

      • We reaaaaaly didn’t need to know how many strokes get you going in the morning. 🙂

  5. ResearchtimeMEMBER

    Given the enormous numbers of lithium batteries the Chinese are about to produce – with no products yet designated… it has a certain inevitability. Electric cars are a bit of a dead end IMHO. Hybrids are the go.

    Has a certain inevitability though, Chinese produce aluminium, iron ore, solar panels, and now lithium batteries… one manufacturing bubble after the other.

    And yet suggest coal fired shortages are desirable??? Given what happened to SA last summer?????

    Bonkers back to front world. No logic what so ever. Only appeals to the true believers.

    • You are wrong about coal – all we need is Snowy Hydro 2.0 and to stop mass immigration to slash the demand for electricity.

      Given the distance between Alice Springs and Darwin, I agree that petrol/diesel cars should not be banned in AUS.

      Can certainly put a massive import tax on new petrol/diesel cars to encourage city dwellers to switch to hybrids and fully electric cars.

      • ResearchtimeMEMBER

        Snowy 2.0 is a goer… should have been done yesterday! Even if pressed tomorrow, a decade in waiting…

  6. reusachtigeMEMBER

    Australia needs to reintroduce vehicle manufacturing that builds engines designed to run on coal as we have a competitive advantage in that fuel and it would be good for profits.

  7. Coal fired cars are the wave of the future. They’ll be kinda big, and smelly, and slow, and make a helluva noise, and belch black smoke, but will have the advantage of using locally produced natural resources. Yep, coal fired cars, FTW.

    Shit…me and Reusa posted at the same time, and said virtually the same thing. The stars are truly aligned today. Time to head home, and sit under a pyramid to sharpen my toenails.

    • They had coal fired cars in Canberra during World War 2…. well coal gas…. turned out they were extremely unpopular as they smelt horrid.

  8. This trend likely not great for oil, and all those countries that need a high price to survive.
    If oil weakens materially l think a war is guaranteed, just to get the price up