Who will rise up to become Australia’s Trump?

By Leith van Onselen

Make no mistake, the election of Donald Trump along with Brexit is a complete and utter repudiation of ‘politics as usual’ and the establishment, and Australia’s political leaders must take note.

Citizens are fed up. They are fed up with growing inequality and the enrichment of the one-percenters. They are fed up with the hollowing-out of the middle class and the casualisation of the workforce. They are fed up with the escalating cost of shelter that has locked their children out of home ownership. And they are fed up with excessive levels of immigration, which in combination with inadequate investment and planning has placed pressures on the above.

In the recent Australian federal election, we witnessed the second rise of Pauline Hanson, who on the back of the above concerns resonated with the Australian electorate. While many do not agree with her on specific issues, they at least respect her honestly and willingness to stand up to the establishment and speak her mind.

But rather than embrace the changing electoral mood, both domestically and abroad, Australia’s politicians have doubled-down on the status quo of open borders, trade and investment.

In recent months, we have witnessed senior political figures from both major parties blindly throwing their support behind strong immigration and a ‘Big Australia’, despite considerable consternation within the electorate.

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In September, shadow treasurer Chris BowenΒ committed the Labor Party to maintaining Australia’s turbo-charged immigration intake, arguing that it is unquestionably beneficial for the economy and living standards, despite significant evidence to the contrary.

This was followed later in the month by Liberal Treasurer Scott Morrison, who gave bipartisan support to strong immigration and a ‘Big Australia’, also citing spurious economic ‘benefits’.

And on Tuesday, Labor Senator Penny Wong doubled-down on the message, again spruiking significant benefits from strong immigration without considering the costs.

In the meantime, the situation on the ground for ordinary Australians is one of deteriorating living standards.

Following 12 years of strong immigration and inadequate infrastructure investment, traffic congestion has worsened in Australia’s two biggest cities where population growth has been strongest:

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The Bureau of Infrastructure and Regional Economics also forecasts soaring costs of congestion, particularly in Sydney and Melbourne, over the next 15 years as their populations boom:

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Similar problems are facing public transport, where networks are bursting at the seams.

And then there is the housing market, where affordability pressures are acute, particularly in our biggest and fastest growing cities:

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The official forecasts for Sydney and Melbourne are for both city’s populations to balloon on the back of high immigration. A ‘Big Australia’ means the emergence of mega-cities, which many incumbent residents are deeply concerned about yet feel they have no say:

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Sydney’s population is projected to grow by a massive 87,000 people per year over the next 20 years, growing the population by 1,740,000 – the equivalent of 4.5 Canberras!

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The situation facing Melbourne is even worse, with its population projected to grow by a whopping 97,000 people per year over the next 35 years, growing the population by 3,340,000 – that’s the equivalent of 9 Canberras or 2.5 Adelaides.

Residents in our major cities know that continuing with mass immigration means more time stuck in traffic, smaller and more expensive housing, and overall reduced amenity and living standards. And as the situation worsens, Australia is likely to face its very own ‘Brexit’ or ‘Trump moment’.

So which political party will take the bull by the horns and represent the growing disenfranchised?

Our money is on Tony Abbott to make the first attempt. We can see him usurping Malcolm Turnbull and opportunistically running on a platform of significantly reduced (and sensible) immigration levels and leveraging this into arguments about improving housing affordability, reducing congestion, and protecting the environment. It’s an attractive platform that makes a lot of sense if communicated properly (a big ‘if’, I know).

If Labor and The Greens had any sense, they would move first and swing towards lower immigration.

However, Labor has wedged itself via the waffling globalism espoused by Bowen and Wong (see above).

The Greens, on the other hand, could logically argue to raise the humanitarian intake (currently 14,000 people per year) while substantially cutting the economic migrant intake (currently 190,000 per year). This way, they could achieve dual goals: 1) reducing population growth and saving the environment; and 2) being a good and caring global citizen, thus appeasing their social justice supporters (see Tuesday’s article).

In any event, whichever side moves first could gain the ascendancy. All it takes is a leader with some cajones to break rank with the establishment, tread their own path, and soak-up the disenfranchised.

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Comments

  1. Cory Bernardi has already called for a lowered immigration intake. There is your answer as to who will become Australia’s Trump and who will move first on immigration.

    People who believe Bernardi can’t possibly ever become PM should take heed from Trump. The working class do not give a toss about political correctness.

    Someone please post an image of Cory Bernardi with his “Make Australia Great Again” cap.

  2. Ironically, if the US President was elected the same way as Brexit was decided – i.e. a simple majority of the whole country, then Hillary would have won.

    As for citizens being fed up on the 1% getting richer – I think Trump was the only candidate to say they would reduce taxes. Just as the Tories promised they would do when they won last year. I really think the economy is a minor issue compared the rise of nationalism and longing for the so-called “traditional [insert country here] way of life”.

    • FiftiesFibroShack

      Yep, If the economy was an issue it was way down the list. If there’s a common thread through it all, it’s resentment.

    • As for citizens being fed up on the 1% getting richer – I think Trump was the only candidate to say they would reduce taxes.

      That’s the funniest thing. This is probably the only one of his policies that will actually get passed by the GOP House. And his Treasury Secretary will be a 17-year veteran of Goldman Sachs.

      All those people thinking he’d take the banks to task
      All those people thinking he’s going to re-build American infrastructure and restore it to greatness
      All those people thinking he’s going to get rid of the corruption

      Will all be sorely disappointed in a few years time.

      It seems like this election was all about feelings, innuendo and bullshit like ‘Political Correctness’, rather than actual policy and candidate history.

      On the plus side, the next four years may be better for the rest of the world in terms of less American interventionism. Although that will probably be counterbalanced by a lack of any progress in further agreement on Climate Change, leading to greater conflict in the longer term due to battle over scarce resources.

      • Trump said he want higher taxes on the rich.

        Too early to tell what he will do.

        But Tory PM May keeps saying immigration needs to be cut.

        Trump did not get many donations and so is less of a puppet than George W Bush.

      • Could be useful for Elizabeth Warren in 4 years time?

        I mean, this could be painful, but it could be useful long term.

      • Warren’s done! She’s a Clinton sorrugate and completely exposed – the Bernie bros won’t be fooled into supporting a DNC frame up ever again. They’ll find another Bernie, EW ain’t it.

      • Mig is correct about this. Elizabeth Warren is precisely the type of candidate the Democrats don’t need. They need a self-made white male mid-westerner for starters, and hopefully a bit younger than Bernie.

      • Rusty PennyMEMBER

        Yup, Elizabeth Warren’s history is of a parasite, making her money flipping distressed houses in the GFC, as well as playing identity politics to the full…

        She’s called fauxcohontas for a reason.

        Now, more of my insight… Hillary has done massive damage to the Democratic party. The clinton hold of the party has caused great distrust after this election, as well as being someone who has prevented a new breed from rising.. they don’t really have many to choose from for 2020.

        The Dems lost not because of Florida and Ohio… but because of Michigan and Wisconsin.

        Elizabeth Warren going to corn county, holding a town hall meeting in front of people on $14,000 p.a., or if not, they’re farm has foreclosed or the local manufacturing plant has shut down… berating them for white privilege….

        isn’t going to win corn county back back for the dems.

        Now, as I’ve said countless times, I’m not a Trump fan.

        The sort of guy I like is a guy like Democrat Jim Webb. he may be a bit long in the tooth for 2020 though.

      • “The Dems lost not because of Florida and Ohio” and “Michigan and Wisconsin” “… but because of” an electoral gerrymander.

        The electoral college was supposed to prevent crazy candidates from winning. It has achieved the exact opposite.

    • If the Australian Labor Party does not completely restructure, revision, revise, REINVENT it’s immigration policy it will likely never win another election in a majority again.

      If I interpret Penny Wong’s immigration speech correctly big immigration into Australia results in every new immigrant displacing and disrupting an existing citizen quality of life, welfare, access to services, jobs and consuming it to themselves. In other words we bring in 300,000 new immigrants and throw 300,000 exxisting Australians on the scrap heap to the wefare dogs.

      Refugees are not a problem if there arn’t hundreds of thousands of 457 visa people flooding into the country. LETS FIX THE HARD PROBLEMS WE HAVE HERE FIRST AND BETTER THE LIVES OF EXISTING AUSTRALIANS before we let more people in.

      • If either LNP or ALP, switch away from massive immigration, they will win the next election. But If both of them continues to embrace ‘Big Australia’, the election is still a toss up while One Nation gets more votes.

      • @tea merchant: this is a theory I’ve heard elsewhere and anecdotally completely agree with.

        My area had primarily Vietnamese and white ‘poor’ people in the housing commission flats nearby.
        In the past 4 years approximately the people in my local streets has changed IMMENSELY QUICKLY and a large quantity of Somalians have come into t he area, very quickly.
        They’ve not built more housing, so one can only conclude the Aussie and Vietnamese on the poverty line who lived in these places are now on the streets.

        This would explain why Melbourne is chock full of white guys from 35 to 60 now who are homeless, there’s heaps of them.

        Quick, let’s ponzi shovel more of them in!

    • The humans are distracting themselves from the most crucial issue facing mankind.
      It has just been taken off the agenda.
      Climate Change.
      All else is meaningless unless we deal it.
      “The economy is a wholly owned susidury of the environment.”
      and that includes the political economy.

  3. Julian Assange is the only Australian with the star power, charisma network and connections to roll the joint once the ponzi starts to hurt people in the way that trumnp did – as an outsider and on his own terms.
    Pauline Hanson et al will try, however they’re insiders, career politicians.

    The only people rich enough and from an ideolgically strong point to roll the joint are the gents from Atlassian who are dialled into the grid already.

    • ResearchtimeMEMBER

      And lets be fair – she is not that bright. Totally incapable to carrying a narrative in a persuasive way…

    • Assange has charisma? I’ve always thought he comes across exactly like the paranoid narcissist that he is.

      • “Assange has charisma? I’ve always thought he comes across exactly like the paranoid narcissist that he is.”

        He’s a REAL Australian hero who’s put his balls on the line . You’re Not ! Not even a couch potato. Turdly no brain comment

    • My view is the US will quietly drop their pursuit of Assange now. Surely Wikileaks can claim some part (size unknown) in defeating Clinton and the cease of the pursuit will recognise that.

  4. Abbott is not an outsider, he’s a 20 year MP, former minister as well as PM. He showed a tin political ear as PM, so I doubt he’s your Skippy Trump.

    • Trump has better timing than Tendulkar. Trump has been complaining about unfair trade with Japan since 1987 or earlier. But only threw his hat in the ring in 2015!

      He had never been a governor before or probably even contested a state election before – but knew that voters are angry about H1B visas (called 457 visas in AUS) and illegal Mexicans coming over to work for rock bottom wages.

    • To be credible, whomever the Australian version is needs to come from an alternative party, or be a new starter to show that they are not part of the established political machine. A freshly spray painted Abbott talking like a Trump will be seen for what it is … an opportunist who is more interested in himself than those who feel disenfranchised by the economic and political construct we find ourselves in

  5. CounterfiatMEMBER

    Repudiation of ‘politics as usual’ yes, however don’t forget repudiation of ‘economics as usual’.
    I have accused MacroBus as being a contemporary economics blog, entrenched in ‘economics as usual’. Nice to see some personal searching going on as we face momentous change.

    There is one monetary policy adjustment Australia desperately needs.
    Not for the peanut gallery though.

  6. Some say Trump’s greatest appeal was that he self funded and his pledge was to work for the American people, not corporate interests. Some of his policies don’t accord with that though eg the huge cut i corporate tax rates
    Others say that his his supporters understood that he was serious about their concerns even if he wasn’t literal with his policies, whereas his detractors took every policy literally and lampooned when it was always obvious that they could not possibly become literally true, yet his detractors never really recognised the concerns of the Trump supporters.
    It was about their loss of jobs, income and being treated as if their losses didn’t matter that really got them going and having someone to blame was a part of it.
    When you think of it, how would you feel if you thought ILLEGAL immigrants were taking jobs. (even if offshoring, legal immigration and automation/computerisation were the real causes)?
    We have enough trouble coping with LEGAL immgrants and LEGAL(but as yet unevaluated) refugees how upset would the population be if we had say 20% of our actual immigration each year as Illegal and our jobs/hours/income was falling?
    No wonder the rustbelt states were for Trump.

    • If enacted, the 15% tax rate will force all other Western nations to follow suit. Whether it success or not will depend on inflation. If inflation spikes up, then it will be a better policy than 0% interest rate forever.
      As to illegal immigrants, it will be a huge boon for the American workers when Trump enforce this, at the expense of businesses that rely on illegal immigrants. You can expect a lot of court challenges to prevent deportation.

      • The executive power in the US has expanded greatly into the vacuum let by the Paul Ryans of the world. Mr Trump will expand it even further….. court challenges will be curtailed…. he has the whiphand with Supreme Court vacancies.

        This cut in corporate tax is the last thing they need, but after the coming recession there will be a boom on the back of government spending, Mr Trump while good for geo-politics is just another can kicker. The saviour (who knows when ) will have a plan to deal with the debt from day 1.

      • Dont think so. Politics in the UK and Europe is stridently against this, gonna go the opposite direction if anything.

        I doubt also if Trump will get that through as the Fiscal conservatives will balk at the huge impact on US debt.

    • St JacquesMEMBER

      The company tax cut will just mean more pay and bonuses for the execs, more share buybacks and cause more socially destabilising inequality. It is Trump’s worst idea. Wages as a share of national income are at or near an all time low and profits at or near an all time high. It will not encourage investment.

      • Not if it’s done at the same time as removal of illegal immigrants from the workforce along with some of the H1B visas. If this happens the labour market would be tight leading to wage inflation. Wage inflation will bring corporate profits down along with executives pay, since executives are paid on the performance of the company (at least in theory).

      • USA real wages are below the 1970 peak, they’re due a bit of wage inflation but not too fast because of the rundown productive as opposed to FIRE capacity would not handle if it’s too rapid, but I imagine that can be controlled by easing or tightening on imports, increasing/decreasing some taxes, etc. And very well put about “in theory”. In reality there is very little correlation between incomes and bonuses to high flying execs and longer run company performance.

  7. What is needed is something more than a Trump, but unfortunately anyone who manages to combine policy positions to actually be intelligent on everything, does not have a chance of having the “popular appeal” that a simplistic nationalist has.

    Trump may prove me wrong, but I see it as entirely possible that you can stop immigration and go for protectionism and isolationism, and still end up with a vampire squid rentier national economy. Protected industries are a natural breeding-ground for this.

    I would be very interested if Trump came up with a solution to the housing unaffordability / cyclical volatility problem that bedevils California and many liberal-lefty run States. Imagine the whole of the USA as Texas in its urban economies.

    • Does he understand money as discussed here over the last few years? not likely and so the real changes won’t come from Trump but you need a front man and the USA now has one.

      There seems to be a lot of right wingers that are pissed off with CB and that is where the changes need to come from to correct the world order.

      • Steve Keen thought Trump might be a surprising President because he does not know about macro economics. He may look at it and go “Why are we doing that? It’s not working. Let’s do this.”

      • Foots Listen to him He is going to rebuild everything! It’s moe printing and flooding the world with more paper reserve currency. That’s his path because he knows little. It is easy and sounds good. I might just buy some more Gold one of these days. One day this massive bomb they are all building is going to go off!

      • Make America Great Again won’t happen without a global agreement to do so.

        Go back to late 70s and early 80s when America was last in dire straits and you had a number of business agreements and global agreements to make America great again, which cumulated in the Plaza Accord where the US currency was devalued against its major competitors to help American manufacturing rise again. I can’t see the world, and in particular China nor Japan doing this again.

      • I might just buy some more Gold one of these days.

        Too late. The time to buy gold/gold miner shares was before they started counting the votes.

    • Maybe your mate Bob Day could do it (after he has repaid his creditors).

      Am I correct in saying you want open borders for capital/people coupled with zero planning regulation (read – planning decisions outsourced to developers driven by a commercial motive)?

      • The average adult can cook and eat their own meal without a govt planner telling them what they must and must not do.
        I want similar freedom to build my own house on my own land. Sure, the house should conform to reasonable building standards. This type of deregulation is not outsourcing planning to developers.
        We didn’t outsource food planning to McDonalds.

      • Definitely don’t want open borders for people, or capital. I didn’t say that.

        But re land for urban growth, I either want government to be “market enablers”, which worked well for decades, providing median-multiple-3 housing; or if they are unprepared to step up to the mark with infrastructure, then there is a very successful model used in the USA where the private sector incorporates de facto new municipalities, raises finance on bond markets for the infrastructure, and collects “local property taxes” to pay them off.

        People who are used to that system simply cannot understand why people in other parts of the world are so wedded to government monopolies on urban development via planning and infrastructure provision – when it is so clearly NOT working, and their system very evidently IS.

        The free market simply works to deliver high value, competitive pricing, and demanded products, features and amenities. Wussy lefty critics out here assume a “race to the bottom” with standards etc, when in fact the race is to the top in terms of value delivery. What we have here actually IS a race to the bottom for quality, with the price-gouging resulting in higher and higher prices for worse and worse products.

        A median-multiple 3 housing market absolutely does not need no-frills new suburban development, because the good new housing is so cheap (the land is so cheap), that decent homes a few decades old are affordable to anyone bar total social dropouts. Search some Real Estate sites for median multiple 3 cities – you can apply filters as low as $80,000 and you will still get hits on properties that would be at least $400,000 in any major Australian city.

  8. Abbott??? Abbott????? He’s more hated than Hillary! If that’s even possible Abbott makes it so – career double talker who when given a chance at power just confirmed to everyone why they always hated Abbott. Oh, and did I mention corrupt?

    • Yep, Abbott is not the guy. He frigging loves neoliberal BS and running Australia like a branch office to his core.

      If there is going to be someone it will be someone a lot smarter than Abbott and who is not interested in tugging his forelocks to impress folks offshore.

      Someone with the personality of a Keating but without the Empire clocks.

      No one fits that description at the moment as both parties are chock full of apparatchiks and IPA debutants.

    • St JacquesMEMBER

      Yesterday I was being ridiculously exaggerated about what Trump might do, but compared to Lord Abbortt, he’s an intellectual giant with experience in the real world outside of the echo chambers of politics. I don’t know who said it, but somebody called Abbott the most punchable face in Oz. That friggin smirk ! A lot of people share that view of Phoney. Let that onion muncher knight himself.

      • There is a lot of hysteria about Trump at the moment.

        But if he does do the important things required to rebalance the US economy and by that I mean reduce the damage done to the US domestic economy by the USA supplying the world with a vehicle (US Treasuries, $US deposits) for international ‘saving’ and speculative capital flows, it will not take long before US rates start rising.

        The US economy is already close to full employment already – a bit of extra juice and it will take off.

        While I prefer reducing unproductive inflows directly as the method for ensuring a floating exchange rate better reflects trade performance the quick and dirty method is by using tariffs to deter imports.

        You dont need to borrow off shore if you are not buying stuff from offshore.

        The problem for Australia is that over the last 30 years we have managed to shutdown or sell off into foreign ownership almost all of our local production.

        When it does return it will be all foreign owned.

      • St JacquesMEMBER

        Yes, even in my more simplistic pre MB days I could see there were problems with this BS free capital flows though explaining what was wrong was difficult as I was confused aby neo-Keynesian ideas/neo-liberal ideas. I have no training in economics. (I’ve also been doing a bit of reading, am enjoying Joan Robinson, wow, she’s a brilliantly suave iconoclast and all those decades ago!). BTW, the comparative advantage principle underlying free trade can only work if both capital and labour are stuck in their respective countries. Reading Ricardo was a headache, as he didn’t state this assumption and yet is should be clear to anyone with a brain.

      • Actually St J, the comparative advantage model was dreamed up on the basis of a fully employed workforce with perfectly clearing markets. It was never a reality, but gained traction with lofty phrases such as free trade and international competitiveness, penned by the neoliberal globalisation egged on by the WTO, IMF, OECD etc. Universities still teach this theory which is just an observation of what might be not what actually is ……. if that makes sense? Lost in the translation was the free trade is not really fair trade.
        The worm is starting to turn now that the reality is the model has been misused to plunder resources and labour in the third world while hollowing out the productive capacities of the developed world. This has been made worse by the so called free flow of capital and labour which is code for unregulated FIRES and loose immigration. It worked for a while, but as the private sector has impoverished itself with record debt and asset bubbles, the evidence of failure is reaching proportions where Brexit and Trump are the vanguards of what will quickly follow world wide. Next will be the crumpling of the EU adventure which will be ignited when the Italian people trash their own political system out of frustration with the intractability of non elected institutions filling the void left by pathetic political leaders.

        In reality the GFC was a financial disaster not a failing of the macroeconomic model. Sadly politicians misunderstand the financial economy is not the real economy, but are being given a lesson by the electorate. When governments reclaim their sovereign powers, regulate FIRES and rescue monetary and fiscal powers then we will see a different world. Hopefully this can be achieved without another world war, but one can only hope.

      • St JacquesMEMBER

        Oh, it makes sense Malcolm. I should have stated that, Ricardo and Malthus are all into the labour being fully employed/exploited, but the modern idea of full employment of resources is more late 19th century, the neo-classical equilibrium magic stuff, which is pure nonsense, which is something sharp minded people like Keynes and Robinson pointed too. The naive Ricardian idea of free trade made a some sense back in the early 1800s because you could assume a more or less fixity to labour and capital within their respective countries, mass immigration only happened in times of civilizational collapse and trade was a slow changing and relatively small part of life anyway. In today’s world it is utterly nonsensical stuff and this was already pointed out in the nineteenth century German economist Freidrich List for a whole range of reasons. It merely served the political needs of big British capital at the time..

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        From 007

        “The problem for Australia is that over the last 30 years we have managed to shutdown or sell off into foreign ownership almost all of our local production.”

        Didn’t the competent Packer, sell channel 9 to Alan Bond for a Billion dollars and then, later, buy it back for Fuck all? a quarter of the price from memory.

        Maybe we can force our super funds to buy back all those “Austrslian” assets for cents in the dollar.
        If not the government can with freshly printed dollars.

        Its easier to build a new house, when you have fully demolished the old one.

      • Would be another nail in the neoliberal coffin if a 45% tariff on China actually managed to close the US trade deficit, led to genuine US full employment and raised revenue.
        But tariffs are bad! So bad… So bad that in the late 60’s tariff’s of up to 75% in this country led to drastically high unemployment … of 2%.

    • As much as the author doesn’t want to admit it Pauline Hanson is probably the most Trump like candidate. Let me sum up the ancedotial sentiment I’ve heard across people. She has no regard for political correctness, she’s anti establishment, a lot of people support her despite what she says more for her sentiment against the system and the unfairness rather than policy details. Even if her policies are dumb they think at least she’s thinking in the right direction and her heart is in the right place not like those other guys who are still wanting free trade (watch Bishop talk about the TPP agreement after trumps win), freeer banking, supporting business councils, destroying communities,etc. I.e the middle class will evaluate her policies no matter how ridiocolus as less dangerous than the “evil” that govenrments are doing now to the middle class. “At least she’s trying to be on my side and not trying to stuff me over” is what I hearing.

      • Yes Political Correctness was left out of the list and it is the Loxodonta in this room. Check out the media now they chattering class media are saying Trump has to alter to their values!!!
        Do none of them get what is happening?

  9. I love that news papers don’t really even bother putting articles together anymore but just do a headline and screenshots of people’s tweets. it’s important to know what Katie perry thinks.

    • All the articles they have written about Hillary winning the White House cannot be published, so they have to write something up in a hurry.

      • MSM is the complicit propaganda unit.of the elite rule makers and tax dodgers.
        Half the voters just threw it back in their face and they’re mifted.
        It’s called a ‘protest vote’, the inevitable handiwork of a captured MSM.

      • MSM

        e.g. News Limited

        is the complicit propaganda unit.of the elite rule makers and tax dodgers.

        e.g. Murdoch and Trump.

  10. A country with 25 years of no recession and all of the bs optimism and entitlement that goes with it isn’t ready for repudiation of the latest iteration of globalization.

    • Yup, only when the mind control that “you’ve won the lottery of life” gets laughed by all of those who didn’t – read everyone not in the Laberals and their media sorrugates – will it start to become possible.

      The left tho! Look at how little they achieved – occupy trigger warnings/ fold to EU/IMF/ no royal commission into banks…
      How much more moribund can you get? 3d was right (not about Abbott!)

    • Mining BoganMEMBER

      Damn straight. This lot needs a massive economic punch in the face. Then they might start asking questions of themselves…a trait that is thoroughly unaustralian…

      • AND, that economic punch in the face is coming.
        With 15% corporate tax, where else would anyone set up but the US.
        A 15% corporate tax here would wipe the joint out as the place thrives on the merry go round which is a high velocity of money as Bligh turnball is trying to keep going.
        Just watch the corporate exodus from here now.
        Any future leader will probably come from the Salvos, with some previous experience in AI as that is all that will be left

      • A 15% corporate tax here

        e.g. what super funds pay on their investments here.

        would wipe the joint out

        We haven’t been wiped out by the 15% super fund tax rate yet.

  11. Mining BoganMEMBER

    Outsider eh? Businessman all over TV? Prone to tantrums?

    It’s obvious. Eddie Everywhere is your man. Just as long as he doesn’t wear that stupid bloody magpies scarf to Canberra.

    • Funny you say that, because last night a group of us did the same exercise and came up with Eddie as well. We knew he wasn’t an exact fit for the Trump model, but was the best Australia had to offer.

    • TailorTrashMEMBER

      Unfortunately after Eddie “boned ” all the newsreaders on channel 9 he then got “boned ” himself …..,,,,, Nah!…. stick to the quizzes Eddie

  12. I think a better question is not who will be Australia’s Trump (as our political system is quite different). but:

    Will our political revolution come from a more common sense, egalitarian, centrist political movement?

    Hopefully now that Sustainable Australia is launching from the ‘ground up’ in 2017 for the next VIC, NSW, etc state elections in 2018/19, it will get a chance to build a broader movement and address issues like the foreign buyout, immigration, housing, tax, congestion, etc from the sensible centre.

    • LVO what are you plotting your data in? Those gauges are good.

      I am using QlikView for Health analytics and have gauges but they’re not like that!

    • Sustainable Australia is a piss weak name and cost them big in the last election. That name rings of tree hugging and other sissy stuff. Australian’s First has more appeal and projects the purpose of its policies without having to read them which is real important.

      • LOL… Sustainable Australia is not designed to appeal to your hard right views.
        It is a name based on feedback and national research to build an organic brand that won’t be either a flash in the pan… or a brand that after eons is still irrelevant (like AF).

      • I’m one of the other dozen or so people in the country who vote for Sustainable Australia, and I think it’s a piss-weak name. It has no message, people presume it’s something else and don’t even bother to find out what it’s all about. It might have all the feedback, branding and national research in the world, but I reckon it’s a poor choice of name for the party.

      • I voted for it too you and me were about the only ones, I am not going to wast my vote in future so I’m going the redhead !

      • I voted for them too and also dislike the name. Next time I think I will vote Number 1 for the red-haired lady from up north.
        That puts a few dollars her way doesn’t it?

    • If the overwhelming advvice from the punters who vote for it is that the party is incorrectly branded, then maybe the geniuses in charge could take note of that feedback, rather then blindly trusting in their market surveys etc. Perhaps, as a starting point, they could ask Hillary Clinton about the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of modern market research techniques.

      I suppose it doesn’t matter too much really, because I’ll probably be voting for Pauline at the next election anyway.

      • Except that the overwhelming feedback we get campaigning on the ground in local electorates is positive, including on the name.

        It’s a new brand, so takes time to resonate, which anyone with ANY marketing clue knows… Would you have put Hyundai at the top of your car list 20 years ago when first introduced???

        Whilst under 10,000 people in NSW voted #1 for Sustainable Australia in the recent federal election, over 300,000 put us 2-6 on the Senate ballot paper (approaching 10%). That means people from the left, right and middle are seeing our new brand as a viable option.

        Along with our local campaigning and supporting national research, I’ll take that sort of concrete evidence over a few keyboard warriors any day of the week πŸ™‚

        Let’s talk again when One Nation becomes more than a one woman show. She did after all take about 10 goes to get elected under the One Nation brand…

      • mrjones0101MEMBER

        I’m inclined to agree on the name part, I was one of the few that voted them #1 in the recent federal election, and that was only because I’d heard about (and researched) them from this site.

        Had I not heard about them already I would’ve assumed it a Greens offshoot and not bothered.

  13. at the very least The Greens could call the current immigration set up as the capitalist exploitative-on-both-sides citizenship sale that it is.

  14. Hanson this morning on 7’s Sunrise program was great explaining in simple terms why Trump won and then outlined all the same issues mentioned here on Macrobusiness such as excessive immigration and the problems that come with it. The rise of China in the region, the death of local manufacturing, and the patheticness of the liberal and labor party scum.

    • I heard Bernardi do the same thing on the radio. They see the discontent.
      I also heard the British Labour leader Corbyn comment on the election. He also sees the discontent and understands why the political insider lost.
      If we do follow this trend, will we get a Sanders or Corbyn to offer a choice for those who are discontented but don’t think that Hanson or Bernardi have the solutions?

      • They see the discontent yes. And they want to capitalize on it to further their own interests, Make no mistake they really dont give a flying toss about people other than how to use them to further their own interests. In that respect they are no different than the rest of the lying thieving scum that make up our government.

      • AngryMan,
        I agree with you. Hanson, Trump and Bernardi are opportunists. And there will be more coming along to take advantage of this frustration and inarticulated anger. The hope is that someone comes along who also happens to have some concern for others, even if they are self serving.

        hellonathan,
        Bernardi made sense because he was describing something that exists. Normally he is just lobbing ideological grenades to get a reaction.

    • And quite a few others on this site, so they say.
      WW loaded up on the gold miners on Tuesday,PM.
      Timing punters, not time in the market

  15. No one will. Most Oz’s are too complacent to care about that and economically speaking, things are not that bad yet…

  16. Australia needs a values driven leader. All the article’s suggestions are just tinkering at the edges.(sorry) Someone needs to ask Australians
    – what kind of country they want
    – what amount of change can they accept to achieve what they want
    My sense is the majority of Australians want a fair, modest (in terms of living standards and greed scale), intelligent, nimble, environmentally sensitive/sustainable, safe, healthy, peaceful country
    so step 2 – how do we best achieve those aims? Ask and people will actively participate.
    The old world of two party politics is dead. We need to move to community based politics with people from any persuasion working together to achieve pre-agreed goals.
    now THAT would be a real leader!

  17. They are fed up with growing inequality and the enrichment of the one-percenters.

    And they demonstrate this by electing one of the one-percenters!

    You just can’t make up irony like this.

  18. Srinivasa Ramanujan

    Young Americans protesting against a person who will do more for them and there job prospects than any other president since the New Deal.

    http://www.theage.com.au/world/us-election/us-election-2016-live-donald-trump-elected-president-of-the-united-states-20161109-gslusg.html

    Trumps policies, as much as you may despise him, will be the best thing possible for American youth. Limit cheap labour, increase domestic manufacturing, increase tech employment via corporate tax breaks.

    Ummmm ?

    Ok – lets go protest this guy because he does not conform to our politically correct social morality. We have no interest in his policies or what he will do for our futures, ONLY that he is seen to be conforming to our moral absolutism.

    The mind boggles.

    .

    • Limit cheap labour, increase domestic manufacturing, increase tech employment via corporate tax breaks.

      So what party was it that said they will increase cheap labor, decrease domestic manufacturing, reduce tech employment via corporate tax increases? None that I recall.

  19. represent the growing disenfranchised?

    Our money is on Tony Abbott

    The only person Tony Abbott represents is himself. What he has done and will do again is misrepresent issues to garner support from people who think he is promising something that really matters to the issue. For example, he misrepresented supposedly “illegal” arrivals as being responsible for freeway congestion from Western Sydney, when there is far more completely legal immigration.

    Abbott is a master of dishonestly exploiting issues for his own benefit.

  20. Mike Yardley: Democrats underestimated the mood for rebellion | Fairfax – Stuff.co.nz

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/86320560/mike-yardley-democrats-underestimated-the-mood-for-rebellion

    … extract …

    … Last month, I wrote that for all of his foibles, sordid abuse and incendiary rhetoric, Trump deserved credit for spotlighting some issues that transcend partisan politics.

    Self-funding his primary contest, his refusal to be a pawn of big-money donors, the political establishment and pay-for-play access was refreshing.

    He also highlighted the fact that in the Obama era, black folk have lost ground in nearly every major economic category, forced to compete for low-paid work against illegal migrants.

    He also spotlighted the abominable epidemic of black-on-black gun crime that has transformed cities like Chicago into drug-infested inner-city war zones.

    Something that cop-hating organisation, Black Lives Matter, chooses to ignore.

    Interestingly, double the number of African-Americans have voted for Donald Trump, compared to Mitt Romney, four years ago.

    But it’s the fact that only 37 per cent of white voters supported Hillary Clinton that killed her quest for the White House. The most bruising reality for Hillary is that only 43 per cent of white women voted for her – 53 per cent ticked the box for Trump.

    Who would have picked that, after all of the crude and misogynist “locker-room talk?” … read more via hyperlink above …

    … following on from Brexit … restoring hope and opportunity …

    Restoring housing affordability: An advocates tale

    http://www.performanceurbanplanning.org/definition-of-affordable-housing.html

    • … following on from Brexit … restoring hope and opportunity …

      Restoring housing affordability

      Don’t hold your breath.