Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Reddit + - Malcolm Turnbull Australian Prime Minister By Houses and Holes in Australian Politics, Featured Articleat 9:48 pm on September 14, 2015 | 130 comments Your new PM: Julie Bishop remains deputy PM. Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Share on Reddit + - YOU MAY ALSO BE INTERESTED INAn open letter to Donald Trump from the Australian peopleDear Mr President, This week the PrimeChina attacks Australia with impunityStill more fallout from Chinese influence today,Gladys Liu "double agent" divides and conquersOne of the more delicious ironies of the GladysSino Scott takes to WeChatSino Scott is off the leash, via The Comments 88888 September 14, 2015 at 9:52 pm A fitting end to an intellectual lightweight Great result for the country Revert2Mean September 14, 2015 at 10:05 pm So glad to see the back of this fwit, Abbott, Australia’s answer to George Bush Jnr. The Traveling Wilbur September 14, 2015 at 10:12 pm Australia’s answer to Frank Spencer you mean. Revert2Mean September 14, 2015 at 11:04 pm First Dog: The thoroughly humiliating & extremely satisfying demise of Tony Abbott 😎 😛 Nolan September 14, 2015 at 11:45 pm 31 August 2015 “Any leader … that does not take [climate change] seriously or treats it like a joke — they’re not fit to lead,” — Barack Obama (Only US President in last 6.5 years) 11 September 2015 Abbott caught laughing at a joke about climate change. 14 September 2015 Abbott no longer leader of Australia. ceteris paribus September 15, 2015 at 12:45 am My feeling is not one of gloating in any sense. I just feel so relieved and thankful that this despotic, tricky and cruel reign of Abbott and Hockey is over. It has been a truly unpleasant couple of years. May they never be in a position to wield power over the Australian community again. permacuppa September 14, 2015 at 10:17 pm Agreed. And his entire nasty front bench (most). Now let’s kick back and have a cigar! ZuluMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:37 pm +1 Rusty Penny September 14, 2015 at 10:24 pm The most humiliating outcome to ever befall a lib PM. Funny that. Revert2Mean September 14, 2015 at 10:32 pm And he’s 4 days short of qualifying for a huge PM’s pension, 😆 and never got to live in the Lodge. Bwahahaha! 😀 88888 September 14, 2015 at 10:37 pm Assuming the 4 day miss on the PM entitlements is true -cherries abound on the top of this shit sandwich Can’t wait for the weirdo to chomp down on it in public like the brown onion dumpling September 15, 2015 at 8:34 am This is equivalent to John McCain replacing Dubya in the 2004 GOP convention. ThePensum September 14, 2015 at 11:37 pm and now we’re all in the pocket of goldman sachs. great. maclennanrMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 4:17 am Thank god, I have rarely seen a greater example of selfishness than that exhibited by Tony Abbot. Hopefully first order of business is to flush Joe Hockey and that brown nose Mathias Cormann. GunnamattaMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 9:55 pm But where does it leave the relationship between Australian political figures, the media (particularly the Canberra based political crowd) and ordinary Australians?………. How many spills in the last ten years again?…. Jake Gittes September 14, 2015 at 10:01 pm Odds on that Gillard is having a drink to celebrate. The Traveling Wilbur September 14, 2015 at 10:07 pm @gunna The more the merrier. Bring ’em on. Bread and circusses (without the bread). V September 14, 2015 at 10:20 pm Hewson is still calculating the GST payable on said bread. Gerry Harvey is lobbying that cheap bread is putting Australian retail under pressure and needs to be stopped at the border. Twiggy Forest is calling for a bread cartel so the price of the bread increases. Andy! September 14, 2015 at 10:09 pm +1 Are the numerous extra PM life benefit schemes budgeted for? ZuluMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:39 pm Tony won’t get the PM life benefits, he had to stay until Friday to qualify! Andy! September 14, 2015 at 11:06 pm Are you serious Zulu? If so, wow… he was “elected” so I’m surprised. Excuse my ignorance of the finer political details. ZuluMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 11:14 pm That’s what they said on ABC News 24. You have to do 2 years apparently. bolstroodMEMBER September 16, 2015 at 6:32 pm I think it’s called the Future Fund Jake Gittes September 14, 2015 at 9:56 pm Someone who can construct a sentence. This will be novel. C.M.BurnsMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 9:58 pm Someone who doesn’t think Pleasantville is a documentary. Hooray raspberries September 14, 2015 at 9:56 pm Going by last 5 years (this is our 5th PM in 5 years) I wonder how long this honeymoon period will last? aj. September 14, 2015 at 9:59 pm No single individual can paper over the rot at the heart of the party system…not long I’d reckon aj. September 14, 2015 at 9:57 pm It’s good to see the last of the career hacks of the past fall away. Gillard and Abbott were the party machine personified… The parties still suck, now just a little less. raspberries September 14, 2015 at 10:11 pm Shame is that no matter the winner of this leadership battle or future federal elections we end up with one too many politicians. We need a system of representation that truly represents the people. tmarsh September 15, 2015 at 7:47 am Not to cut too fine a point on it but Bishop Ruddock Andrews Shorten Anyone else care to join in? Hacks, all aj. September 15, 2015 at 8:09 am Totally agree, my point is that these were the hacks of the old days of Keating and Howard that did nothing but hang on for their piece of power at any cost. The parties still suck. emess September 15, 2015 at 9:11 am You forgot Abetz and Brandis. Sigh. How soon is grate-ness forgotten. tmarsh September 15, 2015 at 9:51 am They should have been top of the class I apologise but was overwhelmed by the complete mediocrity It was a tsunami of povenly representation RageMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:04 pm Kevin Andrews ran for deputy. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. The 30 voting for that pious moron should stand up. edit – so your electorates will know. HixtarMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:09 pm At least he didn’t scrape the bottom of the barrel by having Peter Dutton as running mate. RageMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:17 pm True. I read his first speech after reading a comment about it posted on MB. Righteous scum he is. V September 14, 2015 at 10:12 pm He stood as a protest, clearly. I really want to see Kelly O’Dwyer move through the ranks, the only reason Bishop gets any votes is she is the token woman of the LNP. Take that away and what does she have? RageMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:20 pm re Andrews, I get that V. Made my day. RageMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:49 pm Then again, Andrews has delusions of grandeur so it would not surprise me if he thought he could garner enough support as a bulwark against the Great Satan, and fellow Catholic, Turnbull. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 6:41 am Bishop is doing much better as a minister than I expected raspberries September 14, 2015 at 10:13 pm Euww! This is funny though. Despise Kevin Andrews for being the main stalwart for introducing WorkChoices under Howard. bobalotMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:06 pm I don’t know why you guys are all celebrating. Malcolm Turnbull has openly stated that he isn’t going to be changing LNP policies fundamentally. He reckons their ‘messaging’ is the problem. Basically, he claiming he is better at polishing LNP policy turds. permacuppa September 14, 2015 at 10:11 pm Abbott’s a douche. He deserves this. But you’re right. The two major parties and our version of democracy are real problems. Those are the bigger battles to come, which nobody should forget. But for one night, I want to kick back and revel in this blissful feeling of schadenfreude! The Traveling Wilbur September 14, 2015 at 10:17 pm +1. Makes you feel, just for a moment, that there might be hope for the future. This too shall pass no doubt. 88888 September 14, 2015 at 10:12 pm You aren’t going to start holding pollies to their word are you? ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:57 pm “Malcolm Turnbull has openly stated that he isn’t going to be changing LNP policies fundamentally” That was before the coup. LordDudley September 15, 2015 at 1:33 am Doesn’t mean squat. He’s probably referring to party fundamentals (I.e. the party Menzies created). If that’s the case, he can throw most of the current policies out because they’re a million miles from Menzies’ vision. tmarsh September 15, 2015 at 7:54 am And only coz his idiot caucus (conservative wing) think a) climate change is a test of our faith in God (like Dinosaur bones, hat tip Bill Hicks) and b) same sex marriage will have the world taken over by The Gays and The End Days will surely follow thereafter Again, if Turnbull can consultatively point to data (not teh metadataz) that shows the electorate wants these policies, show them how they won’t make us worse off and appeals to their sense of self (keeping their jobs), we might see LNP policy move. In any case, As Tony Jones said, a plebiscite with a PM SUPPORTING it, is a whole other kettle of fish than one where the PM obviously doesn’t want it. Climate change: wait till Paris, come back, “we need to do more”. And by the way, let’s get our renewables industry going (mfging and R&D) and by the way, jobs. V September 14, 2015 at 10:07 pm Turnbull got his republic after all …… a banana republic. Andy! September 14, 2015 at 10:26 pm ;D hehe Andy! September 14, 2015 at 10:08 pm Terrible. FTA’s galore to come. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 6:46 am Not necessarily. He cannot be seen to slag the previous administration after all, he only won by 10. But he is sooooooo much smarter than the others and I think is a nationalist underneath, not just a mindless servant of the big end of town FiftiesFibroShack September 14, 2015 at 10:17 pm So the 1 informal vote… I’m guessing Dutton forgot how to use a pencil again, or they refused to give him a crayon. That or ScoMo. DrBob127MEMBER September 15, 2015 at 9:28 am I heard Dutton voted informally by spilling potato salad all over his ballot form. DT September 15, 2015 at 12:24 pm I heard he stuck his pencil up his nose. Again. The_Mainlander September 14, 2015 at 10:19 pm Truly happy Monday. ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:24 pm Ha Ha ,Loved the angry talkback callers on 2GB (Rightwing station for Boomers, Arseholes and Ignoramuses).they hate Turnbull. Even funnier was Andrew Bolt , I actually thought he was gona cry when stating how deflated he was at the result. Revert2Mean September 14, 2015 at 10:34 pm You listen to that shit? 😯 The stupid, it hurts! ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:44 pm I know it’s unkind, but sometimes I just feel like like laughing at stupid Ignoramuses. Abbott on the faceless power brokers of the Labour party changing the prime minister of the day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ma7PodiIz4 Hayden September 14, 2015 at 10:27 pm My sports bet wager finally paid off! $20 in the bank! spleenblatt September 14, 2015 at 10:39 pm Brilliant(ly funny) ! Liberal Party goes *POP* and fizzles like a cheap Chinese made party streamer, while the nutters scramble around the floor scooping up the debris and try to put it back together again. Enter Stage Left, Malcolm, the Great Explainer, Upholder of Menzian values, and Pompous Showman Extraordinaire. MavMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 1:26 am Good comeback spleen.. welcome back 🙂 Meanwhile, 3d1khead is crying a lonely cry for his muse, Julie Bishop.. always the Princess, never a Queen (8 years and waiting). LOLOL.. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 7:05 am Not merely a showman. He is there because he wants to do things, otherwise he would be on a beach. He has the capability. Mining BoganMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:47 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYTfzfsbiUI&app=desktop RageMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:51 pm Malcolm’s going to shirtfront now? You bet you are. ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 10:52 pm Ha Ha, Good one. Was that Russian for “shirt front” at the end of the clip? Malcolm September 14, 2015 at 10:50 pm From the ABC website a comment from the Dalek……… ” rupertmurdoch @rupertmurdoch Sad to see such a decent man as Abbott toppled. Now Turnbull needs a November election before Labor sacks Shorten.” This tool is still trying to orchestrate events in the party ………………. for Gawd’s sake just lay down and die you venomous old bastard! AusDreamNoMore September 14, 2015 at 11:05 pm Of course MT is his little clean edge primed puppet. The boomers are rejoicing!!! Nolan September 14, 2015 at 11:24 pm Always wondered how Australians were okay with an American meddling into their political affairs. Massive September 14, 2015 at 10:52 pm I for one welcome our goldman sachs overlords. Rutherford September 14, 2015 at 10:55 pm Loved the headline news.com.au was running there for a while: Stop the Votes. V September 14, 2015 at 10:56 pm Surely we should be wary about what is assumed! As I read Fairfax gushing about Shorten now faces a popular prime minister, who says Turnbull is going to be popular. The electorate is a strange beast, if the last decade has taught anyone anything it is do not assume the electorate will do what a poll two weeks ago said they were going to do. For the economists it seems the joke about being stuck on an island and assuming a can opener springs to mind. ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 11:02 pm Turnbull will be an extremely popular Prime Minister to all those that don’t vote NLP. V September 14, 2015 at 11:07 pm How long before the pro left media that is gaga for Turnbull, turn on him and we see the flow of out of touch investment banker stories? Give it a month. Temijin September 14, 2015 at 11:00 pm Julie is deputy liberal leader not deputy pm? emess September 14, 2015 at 11:34 pm Deputy PM position always goes to the Leader of the National Party in a Coalition government. dennis September 14, 2015 at 11:01 pm Farewell Tony, you got what you so richly deserved, nothing more, nothing less. 10 votes, I wonder what damage Tony will attempt to inflict over the next yr? ewsydney995MEMBER September 14, 2015 at 11:08 pm Bye Tony. Something to remember you by…. (v funny compilation of all his best bits) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3IaKVmkXuk Djenka September 14, 2015 at 11:19 pm And the difference we’ll all see from tomorrow is: 1. no more entitlements for top 1% 2. crackdown on illegal RE purchases 3. better social system 4. end of the ponzi and dawn of the production based economy 5. _________________________________ (fill in as required) 6. None of the above (or anything at all). doctorX September 15, 2015 at 7:42 am entitlements will stop going to top 1% class because they don’t deserve it – instead entitlements will go to now go to true rich class top 0.1% mbreader September 14, 2015 at 11:21 pm Kevin Rudd was removed when he threatened to introduce tax on the resources sector. Some say it was the movement of big co. With Turnbull (ex-Goldman Sach) now PM, does that mean Abbott was removed because him and Joe Hockey wanted to force multinationals to pay their fair share of Australian tax with the multinational tax avoidance law? How soon before getting into office will Turnball ditch that law? I watched his TV statement today and he keeps saying what is most important in Australia is “CONFIDENCE” in business. So by continuing to allow multinational companies to hide their tax offshore would constitute to this ex Goldmach Sach employee as improving confidence? Mining BoganMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 11:22 pm Won’t somebody think of the cartoonists? Arben September 14, 2015 at 11:34 pm So the Coalition wins the next election, and we can watch Mal’s winning smile slowly wilting as the economy hits the fan. His manicured, but soon shyt-flecked veneer, his fancy suits smeared with neolib failure. fitzroyMEMBER September 14, 2015 at 11:50 pm I’d rather have him running the country in those times than anyone else. Arben September 15, 2015 at 12:02 am Than anyone else in parliament you mean? Oz’s best option is a self regarding bankster from the vampire squid complex? It’ll be funny to watch anyway, till Scott mounts the next putsch and it’s jack boot time! fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 12:14 am Yes, that’s what I mean. Smart, not beholden to the party machine, a bankster, but a good lawyer as well, not in need of his politician’s salary….Better than Bill or Scott, or Julie. tmarsh September 15, 2015 at 7:59 am I object to your bias against nice suits. You obviously would prefer a slovenly, slob in a $100 polyester suit. No thanks. Dress to engage. Guybrush September 14, 2015 at 11:57 pm MEH. …. can we just hang both front benches and just make Wilkie the interim PM, while we try and fill the remaining 95% of both houses? Arben September 14, 2015 at 11:58 pm @ Fitzroy – Than anyone else in parliament you mean? Oz’s best option is a self regarding bankster from the vampire squid complex? It’ll be funny to watch anyway, till Scott mounts the next putsch and it’s jack boot time! AusDreamNoMore September 14, 2015 at 11:59 pm What’s turd bull’s views on NG again? #sachs# Ubietz September 15, 2015 at 12:07 am 68 posts and nobody has mentioned… BYE BYE JOE HOCKEY! The joy. Cannot be contained. Very tempted to pop open the Moët ice… Andrew September 15, 2015 at 7:59 am Agreed but Hockey was more a dopey, chubby sidekick than a problem in his own right. LordDudley September 15, 2015 at 1:54 am Hopefully Turnbull realises this is his one shot, and that the loon pond despise him no matter what he does. Reform time, bitches! 1. Kill direct action. Restore carbon pricing. 2. Revert NBN to FTTP. 3. Immediate transparency on asylum seekers. No kids in detention. No indefinite detention. No turn backs. 4. Reform of pensions, neg gearing, cgt back on table. And just bloody will implement at least some of the Henry tax review. 5. Commitment to education funding. 6. Actual enforcement of foreign buyer laws, with a programme to audit foreign purchases over last 5 years looking for breaches. 7. Announce a nation building programme to decentralise out of Sydney and Melbourne. Tie university, tafe, and government department funding to this. You can even do what Gina wants and try to open the Kimberly, although I suspect that area is doomed; it’s not empty by accident. 8. For God’s sake, swallow ideology and pull out all stops to retain manufacturing. No developed nation has ever deindustrialised as much as Australia will have by 2018. It’s a dangerous experiment. Failing that, Australia needs something to replace it, and new industries almost never succeed without state support. 9. Reduce immigration intake to bring growth from immigration to under 0.5% p.a. 10. Implement a real infrastructure programme; run it hand in hand with the decentralization programme. mbreader September 15, 2015 at 3:11 am Restore carbon pricing, NO WAY! As a small business that pays over $13,000 per quarter in power bills, the removal of carbon tax reduced our electricity bill by $4,000/qtr. We’re a small business. We’ve done everything we could to reduce our bills, e.g. installing LED lights throughout, automated switches to turn off lights when somebody is not in the room, etc. Imagine the likes of Woolworths and other big corp manufacturers energy expenditure? They will just pass the costs onto consumers. I will only agree with the carbon tax when we have solar panels that are capable of sufficient ROI. I contacted 3 solar panel companies and for the amount of solar panels we need (approx $450,000), it would take nearly 9 years ROI. If the government is willing to extend a solar loan with 5% interest to small-large businesses, we would move to solar in a heartbeat. Jason September 15, 2015 at 6:40 am Your business will also struggle if you’ve got water lapping at your front door. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 6:49 am Hence the last sentence easypete September 15, 2015 at 7:23 am You should be upset with Howard and Costello for scrapping the 13x independent energy regulators and replacing them with the Australian Energy Regulator (AER) who has allowed the network operators to increase infrastructure spending. This is what is responsible for your high electricity bill, not the carbon price. https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2014/july/1404136800/jess-hill/power-corrupts JustinC September 15, 2015 at 8:20 am I’m calling BS on the claim that a $13k electricity bill has gone down by $4k. The figures I have seen suggest a 5% fall in prices – so not even in the ballpark. The Traveling Wilbur September 15, 2015 at 3:21 am Maybe he could setup a nationalised car manufacturer? Call it Holderd or Folden maybe? The Folden Admiral, I can see it now. Would have the advantage of no local competition too! djhadley September 15, 2015 at 8:27 am We had most of that under Labor. It cost about 330 billion we didn’t have. LordDudley September 15, 2015 at 1:52 pm Bullshit. You’re claiming the policies I listed caused all Oz government debt. Please try again next year. The Traveling Wilbur September 15, 2015 at 3:28 am Well… it’s the next day, so time for some ‘what next’ thinking now… and my first thought is, must be time for the third coming of the mesiah… I can hear the furious clicks of the mouse as Kevin hurriedly purchases his one-way ticket back to Oz. [Be nice to the hostie Kev.] … and so it begins… Hey, someone had to go there eventually. Hugh Akston September 15, 2015 at 4:03 am Great! Let’s dispense with the illusions and puppets and put Goldman Sucks’ (a.k.a the people who really run the country) man in the job. AusDreamNoMore September 15, 2015 at 5:32 am +1 Ortega September 15, 2015 at 6:26 am Well done Straya. One out of touch lunatic, gone. And replaced by… An unelected member of the financial elite, a former head of Goldman Sachs, rich beyond most Strayans dreams. He will ‘fix’ things. Good news is the Coalition are now totally white-anted. Mastotermes let loose. Jason September 15, 2015 at 6:42 am I think you’ll find Turnbull was elected, with a primary vote of 61% no less. Ortega September 15, 2015 at 6:45 am True. He was. By 100 people. Jason September 15, 2015 at 8:11 am Welcome to the Westminster system of Government, buddy. People moaning about the ‘unelected change of leaders’ fail to realise that the PM’s office has very little real executive power. They seem to think the PM’s role is like that of the President of the US, another dirty little Americanisation of our culture. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 6:54 am At last we have a prime minister who is not an idiot . That is something to be grateful for. If he and Bishop are true to their word then this is Menzian coup over big business. djhadley September 15, 2015 at 8:29 am He’s a rich idiot who believes lot’s of money can be made from climate change. [at your expense of course] doctorX September 15, 2015 at 6:28 am One puppet replaced with another just to extend the game where elites are wining and everyone else is losing – all nicely summed up in the old Latin: “bread and circuses” Ortega September 15, 2015 at 6:41 am The Nats gave everyone a warning before the ballot yesterday that their agreement was with Abbott, period. Nobody is talking about this? Why? Grab the popcorn, anchovies and kabana. It might be fun. AB September 15, 2015 at 7:10 am But why does anyone care what the Nats do? Unless the QLD LNP leave as well, the Liberals have the numbers to govern without the Nats. The Nats and Deputy PM Truss have far more to lose than the Libs and Turnbull. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 6:59 am This man is too financially independent to be a puppet doctorX September 15, 2015 at 7:08 am you have no idea … few hundred million that he can lose in a day is nothing mbreader September 15, 2015 at 12:16 pm The POTUS, the most powerful man in the world is not a puppet to big corp/lobbyists either (sarcasm) Goldilocks September 15, 2015 at 7:08 am Congratulations Prime minister Turnbull and deputy Bishop! Finally intellect wins. doctorX September 15, 2015 at 7:14 am intellect can be used for various goals and if great intellect is not matched with great morality damage becomes far greater … Goldilocks September 15, 2015 at 7:21 am I think the only damage from this leadership change is to the success of labour and greens. tmarsh September 15, 2015 at 8:03 am I find it truly bizarre to read MB comments that seem to indicate they think it’s impossible for someone who once worked for a company that has a poor reputation is somehow incapable of leaving that employ behind and acting in the national interest independent of said employer. aj. September 15, 2015 at 8:12 am MTs advantage is that he understands very well how rotten the system is in financialisation of everything land. The question is whether he wants to, or can, reform? I’m pretty sceptical. drsmithyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 10:35 am There’s a rather large difference between being a secretary at a company and being a key part of its operations. tmarsh September 15, 2015 at 10:37 am Making assumptions he won’t be an excellent Prime Minister because he worked at GS is rather assumptive, presumptuous and pejorative. Let’s wait and see eh? Maybe MB readers are just showing their biases/leanings/cynicism. drsmithyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 10:51 am Making assumptions he won’t be an excellent Prime Minister because he worked at GS is rather assumptive, presumptuous and pejorative. I think the assumption is that he will continue to work in the favour of GS & Co. This hardly seems unreasonable. Maybe MB readers are just showing their biases/leanings/cynicism. I think the people ignoring MT’s previous behaviour in favour of his lip service are the ones showing their “biases/leanings/cynicism”. fitzroyMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 6:19 pm I think its unreasonable. Especially of a lawyer who represents clients. The lawyer is not the client. He doesn’t do the 25 years nor did he do the crime. He is just doing his brief and could be at the other end of the bar table tomorrow prosecuting. It helps him see both sides of an argument. djhadley September 15, 2015 at 8:33 am Seems like a choice of being run for the CFMEU or Goldman Sachs. The Socialists on this site should be careful what they wish for, but good luck Australia, decent people don’t stand a chance in this country. aj. September 15, 2015 at 8:44 am Yep. Between the amoral financialisation crowd and the blatantly corrupt union hacks there is very little hope. glissom September 15, 2015 at 11:13 am I’m confused. Why would socialists be voting for Labor? Preferencing them over the Libs sure but voting for them, no thanks. edwinMEMBER September 15, 2015 at 11:31 am We have the first opportunity in generations to have a self made, intelligent, articulate PM that hasn’t spent his whole life in politics or unions. In my view he played a pretty straight game behind Tony every one knew he had ambitions for the top job. To re cap the differences that potentially make him a good leader for the country…. *Lost the opposition job by standing firm in his belief in the science of climate change against the lunatic fringe of the liberals. *Made his money in the real world and not as a miner or specufestor. *Defended free speech in the spy catcher case. Good luck to him! raspberries September 16, 2015 at 12:11 pm I wish Turnbull good luck too. Though I do wonder about his activities in all his previous few years, where amongst other ‘things’ he was supposed to be working on the NBN etc…..but was obviously spending most of his time working behind the scenes, lobbying folk towards his ambition of becoming PM.