LNP and ALP must unite to invoke ANZUS on Solomons

As ANZAC day 2022 is upon us Australia faces twin crises enough to make the most hardy digger’s toenails curl.

The first is that China has done a deal to build a naval base in the Solomon Islands with the sole purpose of directing military coercion towards Australia. China’s goal is to break the ANZUS treaty and to occupy American hegemonic structures in the South Pacific.

The second is that we have a broken political system tearing itself apart over the issue approaching an elelction.

These two are not coincidental. China’s timing is cunning and destructive.

As Chris Joye wrote today:

The spectre of Chinese nuclear submarines, destroyers, fighters and bombers based in the Solomon Islands, merely 1752 kilometres from Australia’s mainland (and closer than New Zealand), brings the looming prospect of global conflict right to our doorstep.

…The constant prevaricating and delays from both sides of politics is totally unacceptable. Australia requires decision-making speed and strength. And we need the fortitude to be able to resist China and its many influence agents who seek to control the national narrative.

It is totally unaccetable that both politcal parties play politics over the issue. This is a national emergency and existential threat unparalleled since WWII.

Nor is it good enough to offset this deal with future weapoans. If the South Pacific is militarised by China, Australia and New Zealamd will never be the same again. We will be halfway down a slippery slope to defacto tyranny within a decade.

Yet ANZUS has within it an overwhelming abundance of assets to not only wipe out this Chinese feint but to ensure that it not dare to seek similar deals again for decades. These can deployed without firing a single shot in anger.

All it takes is the invokation of ANZUS to mobilise a mutlnational naval force to the Solomon Islands. Led by the US Pacififc Fleet, it can sail into Guadalcanal and present the S0lomons with a deal too good and overwhelming to refuse.

The Solomons’ Sogavare Government has pivoted to China owing to internal security concerns and money. ANZUS can resoleve both of these with ease by bringing together the states of the Pacific family in a new peacekeeping force and a Marshall Plan for the entire Pacific that explicitly excludes China because it is a tyrrany.

Some of the niceties of this can be sorted out later. Urgency is paramount. It will be enough to get the forces to the Solomons to get the deal done. The island nation will have no choice. If it wants to play the game of gunboat diplomacy then let’s play.

If this is done, ANZUS will be strengthened not weakened by the attempted Chinese occupation. Japan and Korea might also be brought in, though that is not necessary.

The world is distracted by Russia but that is not the main game. The Asia Pacific is where the contest of our time will take place and ANZUS could strike a decisive blow right now to ensure that China is contained behind the first island chain for decades to come.

This is an opportunity as much as a threat for the politicians of Washington and Canberra to restore public faith in democracy.

ANZUS has within it the provisions to do this even if it is not mandatory:

The Australia, New Zealand, United States Security Treaty (ANZUS or ANZUS Treaty) is a 1951 non-binding collective security agreement between Australia and New Zealand and, separately, Australia and the United States, to co-operate on military matters in the Pacific Ocean region, although today the treaty is taken to relate to conflicts worldwide. It provides that an armed attack on any of the three parties would be dangerous to the others, and that each should act to meet the common threat. It set up a committee of foreign ministers that can meet for consultation.

There is no time to waste. On ANZAC Day 2022, PM Scott Morrison and Opposition Anthony Albanese must unite and invoke ANZUS such that the US sails to the Solomons out of moral obligation.

There is nothing but upside for all concerned.

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  1. This is a national emergency

    It’s hard to have a national emergency when we no longer have a nation.

    Led by the US Pacififc Fleet, it can sail into Guadalcanal and present the S0lomons with a deal too good and overwhelming to refuse.

    Russia 1991: NATO cannot come East

    Russia 1999: NATO cannot come further East than Poland.

    Russia 2014: A Maidan revolution cannot allow NATO to come into Ukraine

    Russia 2022: Time to present a deal too good to refuse…

    The loss of soft power comes about when you’re a hypocrite. The West has no more soft power.

    This is an opportunity as much as a threat for the politicians of Washington and Canberra to restore public faith in democracy.

    There’s much more impairing the ‘faith in Washington’ democracy than the Solomon Islands.

    • Ronin8317MEMBER

      The war is going really well for the US : Europe is destroying itself while US gas and oil producer gets rich. There is 300 billion dollars of Russian assets that can be used to ‘help Ukraine’ too.

    • That’s a straw man: Russia isn’t being threatened by NATO – NATO exists because Russia is already a bully to the Europeans.

      Hence, NATO ‘expanding’ is really mostly about little kids in the playground seeking the safety of a defensive union who’s very existence is because of the Russia-bully.

      Hence, Russia feeling ‘threatened’ isn’t legitimate, and their feelings are really those of a expansionist bully who realises their options for expansion are running out, and they cry foul, because for such power-minded personalities losing an opportunity due to the new and fair boundaries of another feels like they’ve been wronged – when it’s really just their ambitions and ego being crimped.

      The ‘NATO expansion’ narrative is mostly crap; instead, smaller, weaker nations are seeking security together. Just because a bully feels ‘triggered’ doesn’t make their sense of threat legitimate.

      • Spot on! And all those nations have the right to join NATO if they want (provided it’s the will of the people & not a corrupt official over ruling the people)

      • Individual NATO members and NATO itself is responsible for military interventions that have killed hundreds of thousands of people.

        The US invasion of Iraq killed a mere 500,000-1,000,000 people.

        The NATO intervention in Libya has resulted in a failed state, islamic insurgency across North Africa and open air slave markets in Libya.

        Right now, while the West pontificates about Ukraine, it quietly supports Suadi Arabia maintain a blockade of Yemen that has starved 85,000 children to death and has left 5,000,000 on the edge of starvation.

        NATO isn’t seen as a benign influence in all parts of the world.

        • Even StevenMEMBER

          Saddam’s regime estimated to have killed 100,000 – 250,000 Iraqis. How many more would be dead by now?

          I’m not going to pretend I know whether the Iraqi invasion was the right thing to do. But if you’re trying to paint it as self-evident, I’m going to call BS.

          • Well, I guess that makes a war based on lies, half a million to a million people dead, war crimes like Haditha, torture like Abu Grahhib, etc. all good then.

            I like how you avoided the crime of Yemen which is going on right now. A war on civilians by a American ally with Western weapons paid for petroleum primarily bought by NATO countries.

            Strangely, I see no calls for sanctions for Saudi Arabia.

    • There will always be some hypocrisy in governments. There are too many people involved with too many different interests. The real issue is weakness, not hypocrisy. The rest of the world sees the West’s concern with gender, race and other diversity issues as insane and a sign of weakness. They see the loss of manufacturing ability as weakness. On both counts they are right. We are looking like easy targets, especially for China, a big nation with a thriving industrial base. 5% of the population stood firm on not getting COVID vaccinated. Many more would have preferred not to but did so because they “had” to. We invite tyranny by our physical weakness and our weakness of character.

      • So the West is “weak” primarily because of the things that define it ?

        If half (or probably more, I’m guessing) of your complaints about our society is it should be more like their society, what do you think we should be defending ?

          • drsmithyMEMBER

            If ideals like equality, tolerance, democracy, freedom of thought and speech, human rights and secularity aren’t what you’re defending, then what is it ?

            Because if you have those, you’re going to have diversity. Not forcing everyone to be the same is kind of the point of the ideals we supposedly hold dear.

          • Muttafukaburrasaurus.MEMBER

            Yes Australia is certainly worth defending as a nation, and most born here would agree once they experienced the alternatives. You just have to look at the migration data to realise that the western nations are far more desirable to live in.
            But those same migrants have been led to believe they can have it both ways.
            Not any longer, citizenship should be at a premium not a lucky door prize. Ridiculous to allow your enemies to move in and exploit our freedoms.

          • drsmithyMEMBER

            Ridiculous to allow your enemies to move in and exploit our freedoms.

            This is just dog whistling though. What’s an “enemy”, what “freedoms” are you talking about and how are they being “exploited” ?

          • Even StevenMEMBER

            Drsmithy: we should crack down severely on any that attempt to impose restrictions on free speech (outside of clearly defined hate speech). I’m thinking Chinese students who threatened Taiwanese students. Kick em out.

            Debate is to be encouraged. Threats, not so much.

            Can you imagine an Australian going over to China and threatening Chinese students over Taiwan. I think they would experience a ‘visit’ from the authorities within about one hour.

        • “If ideals like equality, tolerance, democracy, freedom of thought and speech, human rights and secularity aren’t what you’re defending, then what is it ?”

          I defend my family and the families that are related, for the futherment of my selfish genes. Nobody willingly risks death for someone else’s idea, even if drsmithy considers it “ideal”.

          • drsmithyMEMBER

            I defend my family and the families that are related, for the futherment of my selfish genes.

            Uh, sure. Odd context to talk about “defending” even a country though, let alone an entire hemisphere.

            Nobody willingly risks death for someone else’s idea, even if drsmithy considers it “ideal”.

            A great deal of historical bloodshed says otherwise.

  2. Ronin8317MEMBER

    Freeze the asset of the Solomon Islands Central Bank. That will make them reconsider.

  3. It’s not often that DLS and myself are on the same page but with this issue I agree 100%.
    Everyone involved needs to know where they stand and understand the consequences of their present and future actions.
    Scotty/Albo both need to acknowledge the responsibilities that they are singing up for if/when they get the PM job.
    The entire Solomon Islands parliament needs to acknowledge that they’re a defacto part of ANZUS
    Anything less than this guarantees war in the Pacific within a decade., it’s that serious.

    • Albo won’t do anything, nice guy, but fundamentally held back by his colleagues. Wong has publicly called for closer ties with China, moreover, she is blaming us for China coming in, as if it is somehow our fault!

      Morrison has to send in the troops, accept he will lose the election, let Labour pick up the pieces afterwards.

      • I wouldn’t be at all surprised to hear that Morrison is playing Political games wrt Solomon Islands. But he (personally) still needs to know that he will be held to account for his failure. This happened on his watch, enough said! .
        If Morrison thinks this a game than I’m certain there are some other interesting party games that Kurt Campbell could include Scotty in, I hear bobbing for apples at Gitmo is still a popular local activity.

        • drsmithyMEMBER

          But he (personally) still needs to know that he will be held to account for his failure.

          He won’t tho.

          • Muttafukaburrasaurus.MEMBER

            Lijian Zhau would be proud, here’s a nice gold star for your social credit score and a 14 point plan to shove up your arse .

      • drsmithyMEMBER

        Wong has publicly called for closer ties with China, moreover, she is blaming us for China coming in, as if it is somehow our fault!

        Whose fault is it, would you say, that our relationship with SI is so sh!t they decided to get help from the Chinese instead ?

        I mean, was there anything we could maybe have done to avoid this situation, but chose not to ?

        • Display NameMEMBER

          SI were for sale I suspect, and with a little more humility we could have purchased the festering mess to keep the backyard cleaner. Instead the LNP are caught making jokes about climate change swallowing the islands and how the islanders are late for meetings.

          • Yes. As Penny Wong said this morning, the LNP not only made jokes about flooding but they were responsible for reducing aid by 20% (billions of dollars, can’t remember the exact amount) which would have bring a massive hit to a growing nation. And then there is all tar other things the LNP did to “balance the budget” like remove ABC funding for pacific nations programming. Add to that they used ASIO to screw over the poorest nation on earth for the benefit of one of their gas mates (no doubt 🤔), is it any wonder the pacific nations are now more susceptible to Chinese money?
            We should have taken these small (and not so small) island nations, that will always struggle to be wealthy due to basic economics, into our economy in some way eg favoured nations status that means they don’t have to pay any taxes or similar to help them be viable.

      • “Wong has publicly called for closer ties with China, moreover, she is blaming us for China coming in, as if it is somehow our fault!”
        I gotta ask – please insert citation. I’ve never ready anything like this from PW unless you are referring to the time the LNP was also giving Xi the same blessings.

  4. Jumping jack flash

    Here we go.
    Maybe we need to ask everyone (US) for weapons, and of course some debt, to start a fight?

    Because if we ask, I have a strange feeling we may actually receive.

    • Jumping jack flash

      None, and i mean none, of them are equipped to deal with this. They can barely manage their own parties, much less a nation, and no chance of managing a conflict with another nation.

      • bolstroodMEMBER

        I agree completely that none of our leaders are capable.
        Neither is our bueaurocroacy, or armed forces ,aside from the Special forces.
        China are playing us like a fiddle. They are looking 3 moves ahead if not more.
        The government response to the Lismore floods says it all about our preparedness for any sort of emergency response.
        I urge you all to read this, it is a citizens review of the 2017 Lismore floods, it does not instill confidence in our government.
        https://www.ses.nsw.gov.au/media/2406/citizens-review-public.pdf
        Virtually nothing in the recommendations was in place for the two 2022 record breaking floods.
        Taking on China in a war ?
        Tell ’em they’re dreaming.

    • Be happy, Tezza. Sportsbet has Labor at $1.70, Libs drifting to $2.10. What are they smoking?

  5. “All it takes is the invocation of ANZUS to mobilise a multinational naval force to the Solomon Islands. Led by the US Pacific Fleet, it can sail into Guadalcanal and present the Solomons with a deal too good and overwhelming to refuse.”

    Nice distraction for China if the US divert attention away from the South China Sea as well…

      • CM & Gav

        For the life of me I cannot understand how anyone can suggest we get nuclear weapons which would be under the control of the fuknuckles that got us into this situation in the first place.

          • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

            Finger over the button, other arm reaching out to the heavens and his head dipped in prayer asking God what City should be Nuked first.

        • Jumping jack flash

          Nah, we probably wouldn’t get those, but we would probably get a ton of other stuff. Anti ship missiles… stingers… maybe anti tank missiles… well, maybe thats all we’d get, but it’d be something. And we wouldn’t know if we didn’t ask.

          Does any of our supreme commanders know what we would even need?

        • True, but I’m sure after a few years the LNP would outsource it (without a tender) so we’d have someone unaccountable button presser, as ScoMo doesn’t hold their button.

      • Yes, if we did blockade not having the bomb would likely get us into more trouble than we can handle.

    • Get real guys, Aus getting the bomb is like stealing your first condom when you’re 15. What’s the point, not going to know what to do with it. This idea that we’re going to do something that greatly impacts our economy (mainly property) is a laugh. Everybody knows this and it’s a major weakness for exploitation.

  6. Australia does not need to invoke ANZUS. It has the independent military capacity to invade the Solomons (population of main island Honiara 56,000), and oversee a free and fair election while holding PM Sogavare under arrest for bribery.

    If desired, a simultaneous referendum asking voters directly whether they want the China contract to go ahead.

    Casualties would be minimal. See: INTERFET. International condemnation? By who? China and Russia?

    The US would chatter about the significance of Guadalcanal in WW2 while we changed the facts on the ground.

      • Spot on. $1mill of fossil fuel bribes/donations allows you to pocket $ biils in tax free sales overseas while you screw the Oz consumers.

        Pot meet kettle.

        Any country that takes the current LNP gov seriously deserves a better government.

    • One call from Sogavare to Xi would turn that into a bloodbath for Australia. Australia would need direct US support to make it happen and if that were forthcoming, it could be WW3.

  7. If only Australia hadn’t f#cked up telling Macron the hard truths about the subs and if only we hadn’t surrendered our prized mantle as the US’s trusted lieutenant in the region. We might then have a better chance of convincing Biden we’re worth listening to. Unfortunately, I suspect he sees us as being led by a posse of psycho SFBs little better than Trump.

    • Jumping jack flash

      No you’re not looking at it the correct way. The US *wants* us to start conflict with China and all we need to do is take the bait, and then ask for weapons… not nukes tho, they dont want to start ww3, just weaken the Chinese economy a lot.

      Why else would our leaders who couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag quip at China like they have over the past few years? They really had no reason to. China was buying our property, buying our food, ore and coal, coming over and staying in our hotels and eating at our restaurants.
      Everything they were expected to do.

      • ”No you’re not looking at it the correct way. The US *wants* us to start conflict with China and all we need to do is take the bait, and then ask for weapons… not nukes tho, they dont want to start ww3, just weaken the Chinese economy a lot.
        Why else would our leaders who couldnt fight their way out of a paper bag quip at China like they have over the past few years?”

        Well, I think I am seeing it the right way but, you are correct to point out the risks here. I have heard that Trump may have pushed Scumo into making some of his public anti-China statements – particularly re the C19 enquiry. It is also the typical US MO to conduct wars at a distance in someone else’s back yard which is a concern for us as you note.
        What I meant by “trusted lieutenant” of the US is that you need to have some wriggle room to open up the options in the playbook to steer decision making in a direction more aligned with our national interest. We have lost that now because of the ineptitude of our government. I have my doubts about the US wanting a conflict with China now but, of course they will be happy for us to buy billions in weapons from them as they gear up for that conflict (which unfortunately seems likely).

        ” They really had no reason to. China was buying our property, buying our food, ore and coal, coming over and staying in our hotels and eating at our restaurants.
        Everything they were expected to do.”

        The fundamental reason is that the CCP doesn’t want to surrender control of their economy to foreign capital interests and it sees itself as a great power like the US with its own interests to protect/enforce. As soon as China began to assert itself in the region, the battle lines were drawn.

    • Yep that’s the risk and it’s also precisely why we need to act decisively.
      Nobody involved can be left in any doubt about our intentions wrt the region. Absolutely everyone (China especially) needs to understand this is our line in the sand.
      I’m certain the US will respect our hard line stance, anything less will be seen as weak and we’ll be just setting ourselves up for round after round of same. trust me this is how Biden sees it.

  8. pfh007.comMEMBER

    Why is everyone in a panic?

    It is perfectly clear that China just wants to build security facilities to protect our shipments of commodities to China from attacks by pirates.

    On a slightly more seriously note. It is apparent that the current government of Solomon Islands inked this deal with China secretly and possibly as a consequence of some donations to key people. If that is the case the deal is likely to be more than a bit wobbly and liable to being ditched by a new Solomon Islands government.

    If the Australian Government stops acting like pith helmeted turnips and puts some quality items on the table that are attractive to the average Solomon Islander the Chinese might find the door closes very quickly.

    There are only 56,000 Solomon Islanders so giving them opportunities to study, work and live in Australia is likely to be very attractive and not very difficult. Can’t imagine them being in a rush to spend time in China.

    Australia should always have been giving preference to our south sea neighbours over the entitled kids of China and India anyway. At the very least it might improve our chances against the All Blacks.

    There is a lot we can do before we start putting floaties on the Bush Masters and pretending that we are a super power.

    • There are only 56,000 Solomon Islanders
      You’re off by over an order of magnitude there bud.
      From Wikipedia It has a land area of 28,400 square kilometres (11,000 sq mi), and a population of 652,858.[
      I know it’s all just numbers, but sometimes getting your numbers right is important

      • pfh007.comMEMBER

        Thanks dody as,

        I misread ashtegra’s comment above …I thought it sounded low and should have checked wikipedia

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solomon_Islands

        But still

        “..I know it’s all just numbers, but sometimes getting your numbers right is important..”

        How is the difference between 56,000 and 600,000 important to the following?

        “..There are only 56,000 Solomon Islanders so giving them opportunities to study, work and live in Australia is likely to be very attractive and not very difficult. Can’t imagine them being in a rush to spend time in China.

        Australia should always have been giving preference to our south sea neighbours over the entitled kids of China and India anyway. At the very least it might improve our chances against the All Blacks…”

        That approach would work just fine with 600,000.

        If we want our neighbours on our side we should act like they are important to us.

        • Education definitely plays a vital role in any real solution to the Islander problem but education doesn’t usually have the desired outcome.
          Think about their shortage of doctors especially specialist. So OK we take 100 smart kids and educate them in Australia.
          At what age do we need to move these kids to Australia so that they’ll be an accepted part of their peer group. (graduate HS at some age below 20) . If you work backwards you end up concluding that 13 or 14 is the oldest ( with better education outcomes achieved when the kids move at 11 or 12)
          So they then have 4 years undergrad and at least 3 years medical school and then at least 3 years practical training.
          They are ready to return at age 27 to 30 (or possibly older if they specialize)
          Life has a habit of interfering with the plan and before you know it the doctor (we’ve trained) is married with kids of his/her own and would love to return but just not right now….. btw they’ve now lived somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3rds of their life outside the Islands (are they really still Islanders?) Are they accepted at home? will their western medical training be able to displace home grown witchcraft?
          Education is the only path forward but it doesn’t work, this is the underlying Catch22 of all Island policy.

          • pfh007.comMEMBER

            Why do you say education is the only path forward?

            Any engagement is worthwhile and builds the relationship. A special SI work visa / green card is likely to be popular.

            Speaking of education. This experience appears to have been positive and worked. Very similar vibe to a conversation I had with an old Malaysian engineer who was out here visiting a nephew but had studied in Australia.

            I doubt all those recent students our degree mills have shaken down will feel that way.

            https://www.deakin.edu.au/about-deakin/news-and-media-releases/articles/despite-friction,-links-forged-under-original-colombo-plan-ensure-goodwill-is-there-says-participant-and-indonesian-vice-president

          • Why do you say education is the only path forward?
            Just my own bias showing through.
            There are lots of things we can do to improve life in the Islands but real long term success is achieved when they are taking care of themselves without our help. There are two viable pathways to achieve this
            – sell resources (mine / cut down forests, deplete fish stocks….) it’s the quick solution but it’s not really a solution
            – develop capabilities that the world needs (Taiwan is an excellent example of how this can be done on an island with few natural resources) Cayman Islands is another example, Iceland a third but all of these outcomes require a well educated population.

          • @pfh
            yes, special work visas are good, also I think Aus & NZ should give all pacific island nations some kind of “favored nation” status.

        • TailorTrashMEMBER

          Will those those SIs buy shoddy dog boxes ……that’s the real question that straya needs to ask

        • Education has been monetized and current government don’t view it in any other terms, especially Johnny foreigner. Also as an overseas aid it would be better to send the Education to their shores, cheaper and more widespread. Meantime more temp work permits for the islanders rather than importing Indian and Chinese students to do menial work. Scumo has no sense of diplomacy nor empathy for other people. He is either a conditioned sociopath or a biological psychopath just like Trump and Boris Johnson, even like Putin if he had the numbers and power.

          • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

            The LNP doesn’t believe in Government taxpayer funded intervention. It’s “The Private (profit seeking) sector always does it better” mantra means they will never out bid Chinese money and effort in foreign relations.

          • Hence $3million per offshored asylum seeker, paid straight into the pockets of ( tax dodging) crony companies. It would cost almost nothing to have kept the Pacific Islands on side as a matter of national importance, if nothing else.

    • Jevons ghostMEMBER

      Forget about throwing our weight about in the Solomons. Instead, help the Solomon Islanders, Fijians and other Pacific Island nations to sort out some of the truly appalling public health and non-communicatable disease-related issues that they face. A full-on focus on community health and preventive medicine issues is needed, and it needs to be adequately funded and resourced. Diabetes is a case in point. The number of potentially preventable lower limb amputations in the Pacific Islands linked to diabetes is of major concern. Cheap but properly designed and fitted sandals together with instruction in foot care will help prevent the foot infections that set the scene for later amputation of digits, feet or lower limbs. Are these low level services offered to all that need them? Not to my knowledge. AusAid input into the health care system in the Solomons thus far has been largely a token effort. A bunch of prancing managers in the main. Saw evidence of their ineffectiveness first hand some years ago; suspect nothing has changed.

      The National Referral Hospital in Honiara (built by the Taiwanese I understand) is small, antiquated, chronically underfunded and understaffed. It reminds me of what Queensland provincial hospitals were like in the 1970’s. We could assist with the comprehensive refurbishment of both the NRH hospital and the various provincial hospitals, help support their staff on an ongoing basis and offer a well-funded, practice-based staff rotation scheme with Australian hospitals located in Queensland, northern WA and the NT. And offer the same forms of assistance to the public health systems of the other Pacific island nations. Offering such assistance both gracefully and humbly might just demonstrate to the Pacific Islanders that we truly are a caring member of the Pacific Family that politicians here are so fond of banging on about.

      • Muttafukaburrasaurus.MEMBER

        Great idea, but it would involve investing in state based health systems that may not deliver benefits to federal LNP donors, or worse still, see the kudos going to state govs.

    • reusachtigeMEMBER

      Yeah those boys look strong and sturdy. Make them do two years indentured in the fruit and cotton picking regions then they can apply for two years of other manual labour type work.

    • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

      Give them their own Australian taxpayer funded NRL team to get behind and make sure their team has enough money to buy all the best players to win a few grand finals like Melbourne did after they got let in.
      Then the threat of kicking them out of the NRL is all that would be needed to keep ‘em in the Western fold.

      • Strange thing is that this would probably work and wouldn’t it be worth it to see the look on Uncle Xi’s face
        I offered them $B and all you gave them was an NRL franchise,
        yeah that’s probably do it, that’s probably be enough

      • Muttafukaburrasaurus.MEMBER

        All anyone in Kerema PNG wanted to know about in the 90’s was if I knew Wally Lewis.
        It would be a big deal in PNG to now have the Hunters playing in the Qcup. A NRL franchise would be a huge deal for them

        • Yes, would ensure PNG side with us whatever pollies they get. Rugby unions new comp with the two island teams, well more if who include the ladies, would be doing just this!

      • reusachtigeMEMBER

        Actually, a Solomons Island, a PNG and a Fijian team would be good for that Bogon Ball game for sure!

        They would need to get rid of three useless Sydney teams. That would be the Rabbits (their small number of supporters could look up to the Roosters instead) and the Panthers could become the new team to support instead of Wests and Parramatta.

        Hopefully another Pacific nation joins and we can get rid of the Dragon team and they can support the nearby shark team that our prime minister loves so much.

        You all know it makes sense!

        • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

          Probably should have an Indonesian team also.
          An extra 300 million foot soldiers would come in handy if push comes to shove and the worlds best NRL countries end up at war with the worlds best Ping pong playing country.

    • happy valleyMEMBER

      So, the US has had to go to SI and basically clean up after its incompetent child Straya.

    • TailorTrashMEMBER

      “and the two countries agreed to initiate a strategic dialogue and a programme on maritime domain awareness”

      We’ll fcuking tell you whose ships you allow in your waters ……….big brother is on the case ……

  9. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-24/barnaby-joyce-solomon-islands-china-labor-foreign-aid/101011710
    Hard to tell if Barnaby is trying to protect Scomo or intentionally knife him.
    Transparent lies don’t generally endear one to the public, so what’s Barnaby’s game?
    Are experienced politicians like Barnaby distancing themselves from a totally toxic Scotty?
    Clearly he want’s to keep his job (if they win) so someone else’s head needs to be offered.
    What’s the old saying, a week is a long time in Politics.

  10. Lmmao at all the hysteria about anyone but Atlantic’s ruling the world for its investors, especially like they give a FKN about anyone not in the wealth set, PMC, or actual Oligarchical elite plutocrat club and if they don’t rule us all then were all going to be slaves [Locke rubbish/ Hayek elite propaganda] of some foreign master …

    Michael Hudson
    April 22, 2022 at 4:37 pm

    Re the suggestion that Biden ask the IMF to give hundreds of billions to Third World countries “too that they can have enough to fight global warming” is crap. The SDRs are to enable them to pay their foreign dollarized debt to US banks and investors, and to domestic Third World oligarchies who hold much of this dollarized debt “offshore.”

    Then again anyone wobbling on about corruption after the GFC needs a lobotomy reversal.

    The U.S – U.K. and to a lesser extent the E.U. have in the past and currently the prime drivers of globalist free market neoliberalism. This was an agenda front run by the elites in said countries to establish a determined social order of haves and have not’s [plutocracy], based on a lot of self reinforcing ideological fkwitery by the elites seeking to have dominate power in shaping society to its benefit. This has all been proceeded by infiltration of past Eisenhower era international fixtures like the IMF, BIS, et al by WEF like ridged ideological flexian apparatchiks someone rubber stamped their certificate at some elitist school and think themselves divinely appointed.

    The best bit is the old libertarian argument was grounded in some notion about divine royalty being contra to the preservation of individual property and the sanctity of ones own labour, under goat, which would then mess with ***Silly Ideas*** about markets distribution and notions of magic equilibrium and no one could cry foul about their lot e.g. the market is a burning bush of truth and just distribution of wealth and power.

    Then some are want, like in the past, weep about the good old days where a bloke or sheila could make a few internet trades in a day and then crack a bottle of good cab and light a Cohiba cigar on the Murry River …

    As far as I can tell the anguish is all about anyone being able to fight back against neoliberalism and those pushing that globalist agenda.

  11. ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

    I suffered Fran Kelly in some doco about the Italian mafia last night on the ABC.
    It’s spoke about just how intrenched the mafia is in nearly all societal institutions over there and how hard it is to find the coordinated political will to actually do something about them.
    Yet 5 minutes in to this recent Michael Hudson clip this afternoon I started thinking,…those wogs are amateurs.
    https://youtu.be/YzYskbPzEpU

  12. Fiona Hill, a British-born Russia expert and former White House intelligence adviser who was former deputy assistant to the president when Donald Trump was in office, has warned that Putin’s ‘nuclear blackmail’ was likely to increase the international demand for nuclear arms.

    Suggesting that the world now was more dangerous than during the Cold War, Miss Hill told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that countries such as Japan and South Korea will be ‘really rethinking your non-nuclear posture and your reliance on the United States’ – in what is likely to be a reference to North Korea and China.

    ‘The nuclear issue is something that everybody should be concerned about on a global basis because he [Putin] is basically telling every country: You need a nuclear weapon,’ she said.

    ‘So the whole idea of non-proliferation is basically out the window because it is basically very clear that the reason we are not going after Russia with everything that we’ve got is because they’ve got a nuclear weapon and he is saying he’s prepared to use one.

    And everyone is looking at this now and thinking, ‘right, well if I want to have my way with my neighbour, I need a nuclear weapon’ – that’s basically what Putin is telling us. And conversely, everyone is thinking, ‘if I’m going to have a good defensive posture, I can’t rely on someone else coming to my assistance, I need a nuclear weapon’.

    ‘So we are in a whole new territory that we haven’t even been in during the Cold War, and so this requires really robust diplomacy.’

        • Peggy Noonan and Fiona Hill you say ….

          While despicable liars in most areas, neocons probably are sincere in some sense — they were attracted to a career where they could make a decent living by hyping threats. Ukraine, or Syria…or…or… . Threat inflation is the motto of their miserable lives as despicable MIC lobbyists, “merchants of death”. After all money do not smell.

          The list of threat from Russia is endless but, you understand of course that regular voters can’t decide whether those threat are real or fake and just designed to increase the well-being of MIC and its lobbyists like Fiona Hill. Instead, we’re told to buy into the whole “make the world safe for democracy” shtick promoted by those intellectual prostitutes (for a very good money). The MIC needs a Big Enemy in order to justify its gargantuan budgets. The MIC needs a Big Enemy in order to justify its gargantuan budgets. Antagonizing Russia is a cynical ploy. It works but it entails tremendous risks:

          http://www.softpanorama.org/Skeptics/Political_skeptic/Fifth_column/Color_revolutions/Purple_revolution_against_trump/Ukrainegate/fiona_hill.shtml

          BTW Ermos Hudson link above might help you with that polemic twitch.

  13. This website keeps playing down the war between Ukraine and Russia, but it’s not a distraction at all. The US has knocked off Russia as a perceived near peer so a few $B and now they can focus on China.

    Hopefully with the delegation they’re sending to Soloman Islands they contain China and it’s smooth sailing for the next few decades. We stuffed up big time though.

    • I think MB underestimates the potential for escalation here. Suddenly we could be in a world war if a wrong move is made. That’s being discounted along with potential for the use of a nuclear weapon.

      • There is a congealing conventional wisdom around sending military assistance to Ukraine that is as absurd as can be, and it cropped up again this morning:

        “Fight them over there so we don’t have to fight them over here” was extremely stupid when applied to terrorism. It is much more stupid when applied to Russia, and shows how impoverished the FP thinking of even bright, engaged Americans is. My goodness.

        — Justin Logan (@JustinTLogan) December 4, 2019

        https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-russians-are-coming/#comment-4712595173

        From comments –

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        kouroi • 2 years ago

        The Russians, from Putin down have spelled it out. There will be no other war on Russian territory ever again. The moment Russia is attacked, nukes will be launched in retaliation to the source of original attack and to the places where decision to attack Russia were taken. Simple as that. Basically, you attack us, WWIII is here, and we go to heaven, we, Russians. You guys go to Hell! Putin’s words. As Americans say: “Read my lips!”

        Looks a calendar wondering why some peoples heads have gone pop just now …. zomg thermal nuclear war !!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~~~

      • I think the world was closer to nuclear destruction in 83. There was a report about it in the late 90s. The west was doing some war games and the Russkies where paranoid and where escalating until some Russkie went against the grain and backed down and realised the West were just war gaming.

        Trying to find a link about it.

  14. Campbell Newman from 3.40

    https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/solomon-islands-pm-doesnt-like-australia-very-much-newman/video/82a7976167da171ae49965f1e567024c

    Julian Moti affair. does it explain why china now in Solomons? is it personal rather than brown paper bags as alleged by some? no one discussing this from what I am aware apart from Newman? no doubt china would be aware of all this. has this issue arisen anywhere else in pacific islands, any old grudges?

    should also mention Danny Philip (old PM) supports china deal from what understand.

    • others may know cause I am just getting up to speed. did liberal party under Howard get Sogavare kicked out as prime minister (or at least his offices raided by Australian police re Moti affair) and now he wants revenge. is it more than potential corruption. what is going on exactly. has the liberal party of Australia bought this on us somehow from back in 2006 re Moti and Sogavare kicked out as PM. Campbell Newman comments having me wondering. cause if it was some type of personal revenge against Australia rather than corruption than we are in a world of pain. am I jumping the shark or is it a dish of revenge best served cold or corruption or something else ie climate change and Dutton comments re water lapping at door step. or cut in aid. in other words is it possible that Sogavare has thrown Australia into a geopolitical mess because of the Moti affair and him kicked out as PM because of Australia meddling in SI affairs and he wants revenge and who best to give us a kick in the teeth than china with whom he now deals. anyone know

  15. From the CEO of Raytheon. “Everything that’s being shipped into Ukraine today, of course, is coming out of stockpiles, either at DoD [the Department of Defense] or from our NATO allies, and that’s all great news. Eventually we’ll have to replenish it and we will see a benefit to the business over the next coming years.” – Raytheon Technologies CEO Greg Hayes March 2022

    • Grand Funk RailroadMEMBER

      Even better, all those ex Soviet states still carrying the odd T 72 or Sukhoi or an armory full of Kalashnikovs can hand those over to Ukraine to help them, and replace them with brand spanking new kit provided by people just like us!

  16. The she’ll be right Australian armed forces, it’s a f kn joke. Now it’s all about space and automation, and we have very little of both.
    Gov in this respect would be ranked a zero out of 10.
    We need some smart people in this space, not just guys wanting a gov pension

  17. I think Albo would be wise to dump the Marlechurian Candidate before it costs him the election.

    • You must mean Gladys CCP Liu? Wonder what Intel she has been feeding her handlers over the past 3 years.