Climate Council alarm grows

Another day, another alarming scientific climate change report from a very authoritative source, The Climate Council:

  1. Climate change is accelerating with deadly consequences. The ecological systems that have sustained human life and societies for generations are being severely damaged by increasing heat and worsening extreme weather events.
    › There is no safe level of global warming. Already, at a global average temperature rise of 1.1°C, we’re experiencing more powerful storms, destructive marine and land heatwaves, and a new age of megafires.
    › Multiple lines of evidence strongly suggest that we can no longer limit warming to 1.5°C without significant overshoot and subsequent drawdown, and that the global average temperature rise will exceed 1.5°C during the 2030s.
    › Should temperatures spike above 1.5°C for a significant period of time, critical ecosystems on which we depend (such as the Great Barrier Reef) would be even more severely damaged, or destroyed.
    › Every fraction of a degree of avoided warming matters, and will be measured in lives, species and ecosystems saved. We must do everything possible to deeply and rapidly cut our emissions, while also preparing for climate impacts that can no longer be avoided.
    › There’s little time left to limit global warming below catastrophic temperature rises. Breaching 1.5°C of warming significantly increases the risk of triggering abrupt, dangerous and irreversible changes to the climate system.
  2. Our response must match the scale and urgency of this worsening situation. Action to deeply reduce emissions this decade will determine whether warming can or cannot be held to well below 2°C.
    › While action is increasing in Australia and world-wide, it remains too slow and not enough. Protecting Australians from the worsening effects of climate change requires all governments, businesses, industries and communities to strongly step up their activities to deeply reduce emissions during the 2020s.
    › The lion’s share of the effort to get to net zero emissions needs to happen this decade. Delaying further than we have already would mean that even more rapid and disruptive action to reduce emissions is required later.
    › Governments, business and industry are committing increasingly to net zero targets. However, timeframes for these commitments are generally too long. The world achieving net zero by 2050 is at least a decade too late and carries a strong risk of irreversible global climate disruption at levels inconsistent with maintaining well-functioning human societies.
    › Australian governments, businesses, industries and communities can and must cut emissions deeply. Given the scale of the global emissions reduction task, and taking into account Australia’s very high level of emissions and our huge renewable energy resources, Australia should aim to reduce emissions by 75% below 2005 levels by 2030 and reach net zero emissions by 2035. This is a fair and achievable contribution to the global task and an imperative given our high vulnerability to escalating extreme weather.
  3.  As momentum for climate action gathers speed around the world, all efforts must now focus on steps that can be taken this decade.
    › The change in US government has ushered in a new era of international cooperation on climate change. All commitments must be scaled up, and the pace of action must accelerate if we are to avoid the worst climate consequences.
    › Australian state and local governments as well as many leading business and community groups are already providing vital leadership in implementing climate solutions.
    › Many of Australia’s strategic allies and major trading partners (including the US, EU, UK, Canada and China) have strengthened their climate commitments for this decade, or intend to do so. The Australian Federal Government is standing still, and alone.
    › Australia, as a major emitter in its own right and a giant of the global fossil fuel economy, has a major role to play in the global effort to stabilise the climate. Bold and decisive climate action ultimately protects us and is in our national interest.
  4. Australia has everything it needs to act swiftly and decisively to help avert climate catastrophe, and prosper in a global clean economy.
    › Australia has unrivalled potential for renewable energy, new clean industries, and clean jobs. We need to rapidly scale up the energy transition and advance solutions in other sectors including transport and agriculture.
    › Climate leadership from states and territories has shown what works, and the benefits that decarbonising our economy can bring, such as regional jobs, cleaner cities and cheaper power. It’s time for a concerted national push, and for the Federal Government to work with other tiers of government, along with industry and communities, to rapidly step up this work and deliver much deeper cuts in emissions.
    › Despite our natural advantages, we are being left behind in the new, clean economy race. Urgently ramping up our ambition is fundamental both to Australia’s economic future, and to ensure our children and grandchildren can not only survive but thrive.
    › The change will not always be smooth. There are political, technical and other challenges ahead because action has been delayed. However, the alternative – a decision to not do enough, or to delay – will lead to massive climate disruption. Catastrophic outcomes for humanity cannot be ruled out if we fail to meet the climate challenge this decade.

Full report.

David Llewellyn-Smith

Comments

  1. Arthur Schopenhauer

    Hard to get a country to take action, when it’s terms of trade depend on doing nothing.

  2. ZevombatMEMBER

    This slow motion train wreck has been the backdrop to my entire life.

    I made the mistake of studying atmospheric science as part of an environmental degree in the late 90s and been disappointed by our species ever since. Horny monkeys that are very occasionally good at inventing. If we can’t get it together on the ultimate common good, a liveable planet, at least we will be contained by our own failures and the rest of the universe protected from us.

    • SoMPLSBoyMEMBER

      Helloooo great and benevolent world citizen China!
      Come on down!
      Admiring ( again) your spectacular contributions to world S02 (sulfur dioxide) levels! ( Keep ramping up the burning of FF’s!)
      Such a great method to inhibit plant photosynthesis *and* promote plant dessication!
      ( Why the bush and forests now burn so ferociously)
      Is gonna be *some’ future at this rate!
      https://earth.nullschool.net/#current/chem/surface/level/overlay=so2smass/orthographic=-230.87,25.48,325

    • Boo… you scared yet. Its not our problem. Europe has to do something or risk the North Atlantic current disruption which would end europe. Usa has to or risk the whole of Florida go under water. China has to do something or risk a distribution to their weather where a little more or less rain could hamper there ability to feed 1.5 billion people and therefore bring down the whole government.
      Australia risk what. A couple of coral changing colour. More bushfire. What?
      Their all stand to loose the most so let them fix it. China especially, they know weather disruption could bring them down so let’s tell them we are going to burn more coal untill they play nice

    • The recorded global temperature for previous years:

      2015 average: 0.98 °F (0.54 °C) below normal
      2016 average: 0.48 °F (0.27 °C) below normal
      2017 average: 0.47 °F (0.26 °C) below normal
      2018 average: 1.33 °F (0.74 °C) below normal
      2019 average: 0.65 °F (0.36 °C) below normal
      2020 average: 0.00 °F (0.00 °C) below normal
      This year so far at the moment
      Currently: 57°F/13.89°C
      Deviation: -0.2°F/-0.11°C
      Stations processed last hour: 67586
      Last station processed: Gerona, Spain
      Update time: 2021-04-15 05:59:37 UTC

      The temperatures are unadjusted
      Data Sources
      NOAA Global METARs
      NOAA One-Minute Observations (OMOs)
      NBDC Global Buoy Reports
      MADIS Mesonet Data

      No train wreck

      The data is aggregated here at this website:

      temperature.global

    • bolstroodMEMBER

      This thread has it’s quota of horny monkeys,
      Our future will be decided by the actions of USA , China, EU
      Fingers Xed

  3. Maybe stay handy for the trolls responding to this piece? LambKing is stunningly effective though.
    edit – meant to reply to Zevombat

    • The papers in support of the Medieval warm period on Earth are overwhelming and are linked here
      https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1akI_yGSUlO_qEvrmrIYv9kHknq4&ll=-3.81666561775622e-14%2C38.03818700000005&z=1
      Put your mouse over the marker and there is a link to the original paper.
      The IPCC Michael Mann graph that wrote it out of history on no data is bogus. It was referred to as much by him in the climategate email. It was litigated – referred to here:
      https://climatechangedispatch.com/tim-ball-defeats-michael-mann-lawsuit/
      Dr Ball whose temperature history reflected Prof H Lamb from Oxford had the case against him dismissed with costs of over 2.5 million
      All the hottest year ever claims are BS.

      • Stop the dishonesty please. You’re been corrected on the Ball -Lamb defamtion case before – the had nothing to do with the veracity of climate change data. I thought you knew something about law?

          • Good grief. Did you actually read the judgment or just rely on that Climatechangedspatch rubbish in your second link?
            :
            [3] The plaintiff, Dr. Mann, and the defendant, Dr. Ball, have dramatically different opinions on climate change. I do not intend to address those differences. It is sufficient that one believes climate change is man-made and the other does not.As a result of the different opinions held, the two have been in near constant conflict for many years.
            [4] The underlying action concerns, first, a statement made by the defendant in an interview conducted on February 9, 2011. He said, “Michael Mann at Penn State should be in the state pen, not Penn State.” This statement was published on a website and is alleged to be defamatory of the plaintiff. The notice of civil claim also alleges multiple other statements published by Mr. Ball are defamatory. It is not necessary that I address the many alleged defamatory statements.

            Judgement to dismiss:
            “[15] Turning to the final factor, I have little hesitation in finding that, on balance,justice requires the action be dismissed. The parties are both in their eighties and Dr. Ball is in poor health. He has had this action hanging over his head like the sword of Damocles for eight years and he will need to wait until January 2021 before
            the matter proceeds to trial. That is a ten year delay from the original alleged defamatory statement. Other witnesses are also elderly or in poor health. The memories of all parties and witnesses will have faded by the time the matter goes to trial.
            [16] I find that, because of the delay, it will be difficult, if not impossible, for there to be a fair trial for the defendant. This is a relatively straightforward defamation action and should have been resolved long before now. That it has not been resolved is because the plaintiff has not given it the priority that he should have. In the circumstances, justice requires that the action be dismissed and, accordingly I do hereby dismiss the action for delay ”

            You are either a liar or too stupid to understand legal judgement. Which is it?

          • drsmithyMEMBER

            All that was all pointed out to him a year or more ago when this first started doing the rounds, plus highlighting that Mann’s data and methodology is publicly available and has been pretty much since day 1.

          • How long does a plaintiff take to run a defo action 10 years😂 ?????? Mann was stuffed as he couldn’t meet his agreement on discovery.. perhaps he didn’t have anything better to do with 2.5 million…
            You are both disingenuous

          • He had to produce the r2 and get in the witness box and be cross examined on drawing the hockey stick with no data which is what he said in the climate gate email.

          • Legal and logic basics – you cannot infer other facts into the decision. Just don’t, for your own credibility. Why is this so hard for you?

          • Everything you need to know is that Mann paid millions in costs for a SLAPP writ he issued in the hope of silencing a critic who was better qualified than he was

          • @Ginger
            If you want to use the words like “stupid” you must be prepared to brawl. If you are not, refrain from using condescending words and keep it civilized.

      • TheLambKingMEMBER

        Medieval warm period

        A existence or not of a medieval warm period has no relation to the fact that the world is warming and that humans are the cause of almost all of it. Yes, the climate fluctuates over time, but we know that the current warming is not from natural causes.

        • I agree with you that there has been a general warming since 1750. My view is that there is a contribution by Co2 but it is minor. The importance of the MWP is that both it and the little ice ace were expunged by the hockey stick graph and entitled Michael Mann to coincidentally fly to Australia in the middle of the bushfires a say the warming was “unprecedented”. The MWP and LIA are in Tim Ball’s and is based on Prof H H Lambs work, It used to be in the early IPCC reports, No money in that though. A good backgrounder is here
          https://youtu.be/K_8xd0LCeRQ

        • Mate… prof Lambs view was that global temperatures were 2degrees higher 1000 years ago ( think Viking farming in Greenland). This was the conventional science up to Mann’s hockey stick. Well before the post industrial increase in co2. The temperature went down in the little ice age (frozen Thames) and in broad terms we have been warming since. This science is fatal to a climate emergency.

  4. Credible grifters is more like it.
    Didn’t NSW have several Flanneries worth of rain recently? Perhaps the good Climate Councillor Tim can enlighten us as to why Sydney’s main dam was overflowing to the point of causing downstream flooding rather than never filling again as he claimed?
    “But muh Paris Accord!”… the very same document that says China can grow its output as much as it wants until 2030. You’d have to be as sharp as a bowling ball to believe anything Australia does is going to have an impact.

  5. All pointless arguments above. China burnt >4Bt of coal last year, and Indias consumption climbing rapidly. Our woke warriors will destroy our economies from the inside. And make no difference at all…

    David Cameron spent untold billions on energy poverty in the UK, home insulation programmes (which I do think is a good idea), and when they did an audit of its green impact, it was zero! The EV “revolution” will be the same.

    Two degrees warmer would be OK, and probably inevitable in any case. Fear mongering above utterly pointless. The West no longer holds the narrative. We now no longer hold sway.

  6. Notice that last chart they don’t chart temp against CO2 concentration in ppm ? why is that?

    • TheLambKingMEMBER

      Notice that last chart they don’t chart temp against CO2 concentration in ppm ? why is that?

      Because the link between C02 and temperature has been ‘proven’ and doesn’t need to be ‘shown’ in every graph – as it just adds noise.

      Link to show that C02 ALWAYS correlates with temperature:
      https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/global-warming/temperature-change

      And here is the link to show the correlation due to human’s use of fossil fuels:
      https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/if-carbon-dioxide-hits-new-high-every-year-why-isn%E2%80%99t-every-year-hotter-last

        • “The lag proves that rising CO2 did not cause the initial warming as past ice ages ended, but it does not in any way contradict the idea that higher CO2 levels cause warming.”

          Do you make even the slightest attempt to read and understand what you’re referencing, or do you not even get past the headline ?

          • TheLambKingMEMBER

            Ha, another own-goal by fitzroy 🙂 Does he read the stuff he posts? No – obviously:

            The ice ages show that temperature can determine CO2 as well as CO2 driving temperature. Some sceptics – not scientists – have seized upon this idea and are claiming that the relation is one way, that temperature determines CO2 levels but CO2 levels do not affect temperature.

            To repeat, the evidence that CO2 is a greenhouse gas depends mainly on physics, not on the correlation with past temperature, which tells us nothing about cause and effect. And while the rises in CO2 a few hundred years after the start of interglacials can only be explained by rising temperatures, the full extent of the temperature increases over the following 4000 years can only be explained by the rise in CO2 levels.

          • I did- you can see that the fact showing causality that temperature rises caused co2 rise in historical data that Lamby posted as mere correlation was not biased but was undisputed.

      • My point is that correlation is not causation. It explains the first chart you posted. Just as shark attacks do not cause an increase in ice cream sales. They are correlated but not causal. Temerarure rise causes co2 increase not the other way around. As to the second chart you posted I never said that co2 was not a greenhouse gas. That is a strawman argument.

        I don’t think it is the main driver. It is a bit player. Plenty of scientists think that me and Peter Wilson among them.

  7. Lord DudleyMEMBER

    Don’t look to Western nations to do anything substantial about this in the short to medium term. Take a look at the US, Australia, UK, etc…’s leadership. They’re all nominal Christians; either kool-aid drinking enthusiasts (Scotty rapture-me-up), or they’re at least pretending. It’s impossible to hold high office in the US without at least pretending to be Christian.

    The bible is clear about the Earth (Genesis 1:26-28):
    “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.” 27So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. 28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

    Most of the actual Christians aren’t going to do anything; for every one that gets it, there’s 5 that be like “God’s will YOLO!”. The pretend ones don’t care; they’re grifters. While the rulers of Western nations are nominal Christians, nothing substantial will be done.

    The demented response to COVID by about 40% of the US population confirmed this for me. Nothing substantial will be done, until one thing forces it…

    … that one thing will likely be the inundation of Southern Florida, which will happen sometime in the next 50 – 200 years. Most likely when the Thwaites Glacier collapses. Technical solutions won’t work for Southern Florida, because the ground is porous, it’s all about 4 foot above sea level, and it’s quite literally flatter than a pancake. At some stage, banks will start cranking the interest rates for real-estate lending there, or stop lending all together. Insurers have already stopped insuring there, but at some stage, even the government won’t be able to afford to insure there. When that happens, Western nations will start to “get it”.

    Until then, I expect nothing but token efforts. There is a caveat, which is that if we’re really lucky, low or zero carbon energy sources will become dominant because they’re cheaper.

    Not sure what China will do.

  8. David WilsonMEMBER

    What unmitigated unscientific clap trap.
    Since 2016 each year has been cooler and those that bother to study the science know that we are entering a cooling period due to the lack of sunspot activity.
    The farce that our coral reef will collapse is a farce as any marine scientist worth there salt will know that coral reefs exist in the tropics trop where waters are warmer than our coastal waters so it is well know that corals don’t like too much temperature variation however they do adjust to local conditions as they have done over the millennia.
    Those that bother to study the sun know that it has a huge impact on global temperatures and weather events.
    Recent scientific evaluation has also informed us that our current wet season and floods were forecast
    We are actually entering a Grand Solar minimum running from 2020 to 2053. We know about 11 year solar cycles the last one solar cycle 25 started in 2019 and we also know that Grand Solar Minimums occur every 350 to 400 years Ew research also tells us and predicts the onset of La Niña weather conditions across eastern Australia linking changes in magnetic activity in the Sun and ElNino Southern Oscillation driven weather conditions on earth… the research was published recently in Earth and Space Science funded by NASA. .No there is no change in storms, floods ,fires etc just the normal cyclical events that change a little more with human land use.
    Instead of wasting $ billions due to political clap trap we just need to embrace and adapt to climate variation, keep our atmosphere clean with clean coal, gas, nuclear and hydro energy generation and stop chemical pollution of rivers and seas to a minimum.

  9. TheLambKingMEMBER

    What unmitigated unscientific clap trap.

    Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

    A statement so profoundly wrong that that it is the most wrong thing said on this site for the year. Are you a paid troll? Just a troll? Or believe that you ‘know more’ that the collective body of scientific work on climate science and know more than Climate Scientists?

    Since 2016 each year has been cooler

    Is this the ‘go to’ line for deniers at the moment? See this is willfully being deceptive. Why would you make a statement like that knowing that every years since 2016 has been warmer than EVERY year proceeding it (in the industrial age)?

    those that bother to study the science know that we are entering a cooling period due to the lack of sunspot activity.

    This is exactly why Scientists are making so much noise about the climate and trying to get people to take action Yes, the sun IS in a period where the output is less and we SHOULD be in a period of cooler temperatures. But the fact the that earth is becoming warmer when the sun is producing less heat is ALARMING. Can you imagine how warm the planet is going to be with the man made warming AND a period of increased solar activity?

      • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum

        The Maunder Minimum roughly coincided with the middle part of the Little Ice Age, during which Europe and North America experienced colder than average temperatures. Whether there is a causal relationship, however, is still under evaluation.[13] The current best hypothesis for the cause of the Little Ice Age is that it was the result of volcanic action.[14][15] The onset of the Little Ice Age also occurred well before the beginning of the Maunder Minimum,[14] and northern-hemisphere temperatures during the Maunder Minimum were not significantly different from the previous 80 years,[16] suggesting a decline in solar activity was not the main causal driver of the Little Ice Age.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_graph

        Note that a clear dip is visible in the graph coinciding with the Maunder Minimum and “Little Ice Age”.

        Plus, of course: https://skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

        • Nope. That’s not a Maunder Minimum THIS is a Maunder Minimum
          https://cdn.britannica.com/84/128784-050-79EE9286/Graph-sunspot-numbers-solar-cycle.jpg
          Your Wikipedia Michael Mann dip dip is 200 years out and of tiny duration.
          The original IPCC report as to Prof Lamb’s Little Ice Age and Medieval Warm Period is reproduced here where Tony Heller dismembers him. You will see the will see the two events lasted centuries and are completely omitted.
          https://realclimatescience.com/2019/09/michael-mann-fake-nobel-prize-fake-science/

          Stop using propaganda sites as your reference points.

          • Lmmao …

            Without even getting into a statistical pig wrestling bout/stoush the one lie of omission in all of this is were the money and agency has come from – ***for decades*** – in any environmental situation that threatens profits to the FF/Chemical industry, and its not alone in that regard.

            Lets just take warming out of the equation and deal with the long term legacy costs building up from past activities and extenuating into the future generations not even born yet. Lower sperm count, lower IQ, behavioral problems, abandoned wells, increasing fail rates of operations due to complexity and environmental demands, higher insurance costs, water demand and diminishment of potable supply in the face of headwinds, et al, tis a short list.

            That you think this just a debate about human activity in a specific industry and its relationship to global temperatures is absurd, not that you even comprehend how temperature is just a dumbed down version for the ignorant and trotted out by MSM for eyeball advertising space. The ***Real Science*** is about the Energy in play and how that effects everything else, do you comprehend what a global increase in energy at 2C means in a short time line.

            https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51291.How_to_Lie_with_Statistics

            FKwit

          • The energy balance is indeed central to “the ***Real Science***” and this is where the IPCC is hedging its bets and treading carefully.

  10. A couple of things:

    1. authoritative source, The Climate Council – I don’t know about this statement, especially when Tim Flannery is involved.

    2. CNN got caught out by Project Veritas saying they with be shilling out Fear around climate for ratings, Tim’s track record would mean he’d be doing the same thing.

    3. You need to secure your website with HTTPS.

    • The “fake left” have taken over the Australian Greens who have nothing to do with the environment.

      Looks like the fake left are also trying to take over climate science who have nothing to do with science. The IPCC reports are much more balanced and nuanced.