Uygher camps “system of mass rape, sexual abuse and torture”

Via Sinocism:

‘Their goal is to destroy everyone’: Uighur camp detainees allege systematic rape – BBC News

First-hand accounts from inside the internment camps are rare, but several former detainees and a guard have told the BBC they experienced or saw evidence of an organised system of mass rape, sexual abuse and torture.

Tursunay Ziawudun, who fled Xinjiang after her release and is now in the US, said women were removed from the cells “every night” and raped by one or more masked Chinese men. She said she was tortured and later gang-raped on three occasions, each time by two or three men…

It is impossible to verify Ziawudun’s account completely because of the severe restrictions China places on reporters in the country, but travel documents and immigration records she provided to the BBC corroborate the timeline of her story. Her descriptions of the camp in Xinyuan county – known in Uighur as Kunes county – match satellite imagery analysed by the BBC, and her descriptions of daily life inside the camp, as well as the nature and methods of the abuse, correspond with other accounts from former detainees…

The Chinese government did not respond directly to questions from the BBC about allegations of rape and torture. In a statement, a spokeswoman said the camps in Xinjiang were not detention camps but “vocational education and training centres”.

“The Chinese government protects the rights and interests of all ethnic minorities equally,” the spokeswoman said, adding that the government “attaches great importance to protecting women’s rights”.

Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Wang Wenbin’s Regular Press Conference on February 3, 2021

Reuters: According to testimonies in a report by the BBC, women in Xinjiang’s re-education camps are subject to systematic sexual abuse and torture. Do you have any comment on this report?

Wang Wenbin: I don’t know if you have noted or not that the government of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region held another press conference not too long ago. I want to say that this is not the first time that the BBC has made some false reports on Xinjiang, and each time we refuted false claim and cleared out the situation. I must stress that so far, the Chinese side has published eight Xinjiang-related white papers, and the government of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region has held more than 20 press conferences, showing with detailed figures and examples that people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang live in peace and contentment, unity and harmony, and that all their legal rights are effectively guaranteed. In recent years, more than 1,200 diplomats, journalists and representatives of religious groups from more than 100 countries have visited Xinjiang. They witnessed with their own eyes the unity, harmony, joy and peace of the people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang.

The report on alleged abuses of women’s rights in Xinjiang you mentioned has no factual basis at all. As I just said, some of the interviewees turned out to be actors spreading false information.

The 3rd press conference by Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region on Xinjiang-related issues in Beijing-TIANSHANNET-天山网

Xu Guixiang: Pompeo claimed that Xinjiang commited “genocide”and “anti-humanity” crime on the grounds “forced labor” in Xinjiang. This is sheer nonsense, a gross interference in China’s internal affairs and a serious violation of international law and the basic norms of international relations. His so-called recognition is just a piece of waste paper!

As a former US Secretary of State, Pompeo should have showed his concern to the image of a big power and showed his grace as a high-ranking official of a big power. However, it is shocking to see that he openly acknowledged “we lie, we cheat, we steal” as his life credo, of which he is rather ashamed than be proud. Guided by such evil belief, Pompeo fanned the flames, exerted pressure, and engaged in bullying, which brought too much trouble to the world. Pompeo pursued his own selfish interests, turned a blind eye to the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths in the United States, which ranks first in the world, turned a deaf ear to the American people’s angry cry of “I can’t breathe”. He has brought too many disasters to the United States. Pompeio maliciously fabricated lies, falsely accusing Xinjiang of persecuting the Uygurs people”, “forced labor”, “persecuting Muslims”, “forced sterilization” and “genocide” etc., and has discredited Xinjiang excessively. People all over the world scoff at such a politician who doesn’t even understand the basic principles and common sense, and who is afraid that the world will not be in chaos. The American people hate him, and the people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang also hate him. Recently, the indignant masses of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang severely condemned Pompeo and his likes. using the facts of development and prosperity, social stability, and people’s life and work in peace in Xinjiang, people of all ethnic groups in Xinjiang effectively exposed Pompeo’s ill and ugly behavior. I believe you have seen it on the Internet. Pompeo is totally to blame for the end of such a street mouse that everyone shouts to kill.

本周,新疆12位省部级干部有个统一动作

12 senior officials of Xinjiang, all Uighur, each wrote an article last week on Xinjiang Daily lambasting Pompeo.

Question: When will they start attacking Blinken? And has anyone told them Pompeo is gone?

抓实抓细反恐怖斗争各项措施

Minister of Public Security Zhao Kezhi, also head of China’s leading small group on anti-terrorism work led a televised meeting of the group on Tuesday, urging the officials to study and implement Xi Jinping’s strategy on governing Xinjiang, stay on high alert and stay tough against terrorism. But Zhao also said the anti-terrorism work should “pay more attention to thinking of rule of law and being precise in policy implementation.”

更加注重打防结合、源头预防,更加注重标本兼治、综合治理,更加注重法治思维、精准施策,切实把反恐怖斗争各项措施抓实抓细抓落地

The truth about China’s genocide against the Uyghurs | The Spectator

If you want evidence of a Wannsee Conference ‘with Chinese characteristics’, to use a description beloved of the Party, look at last September’s Central Xinjiang Work Conference. All seven members of the Politburo Standing Committee attended and 19 of 25 Politburo members. You don’t get this level of attendance if it is not for a policy commissioned, considered and authorised by the top – the very top.

If you want more evidence, here is the Party School in Xinjiang – the purpose of Party schools is to educate Party members in Party policy:

‘Beginning on December 19, 2013, Xi Jinping has put forward clear requirements for the work in Xinjiang under the new situation and has drawn up a major strategic plan. From April 27 to 30, 2014, he engaged in a high-level inspection of Xinjiang and made plans for its future from a strategic and comprehensive perspective…We must severely crack down on ethnic separatist activities and persist in the anti-separatism struggle with both cultural and military forces.’

Seasonal workers in Xinjiang labeled by Western media as ‘forced labor’: Exclusive with French writer Maxime Vivas – Global Times

Maxime Vivas is a French writer and journalist. Based on his two visits to Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region in 2016 and 2018, he wrote a book titled Ouïghours, pour en finir avec les fake news (Uygurs, to put an end to the fake news), in which he described his observations regarding Xinjiang’s anti-terrorism efforts and the region’s development, and analyzed the relations that the US National Endowment for Democracy has with the separatist World Uyghur Congress (WUC) and some nongovernmental organizations like Human Rights Watch (HRW). He shone light on how these organizations colluded in concocting and spreading “genocide” accusations against China’s Xinjiang. The book was published late last year in French.

Online event held to present real Xinjiang amid piles of lies – Global Times

An online event has been held to introduce Northwest China’s Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region to more outsiders on Thursday with ambassadors from many countries attending to listen to stories of former trainees of Xinjiang’s education centers, imams, and female representatives.

The event, themed “Xinjiang is a Wonderful Land” was jointly held by the Xinjiang regional government and China’s Permanent Mission to the United Nations Office at Geneva and other International Organizations in Switzerland via video link. Diplomats from many countries, including Laos, Pakistan and Zimbabwe as well as officials from UN agencies attended.

China’s peaceful rise.

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  1. TailorTrashMEMBER

    “Diplomats from many countries including Laos
    Pakistan and Zimbabwe “…..now there are three beacons of freedom and enlightenment right there …

    I’m sure a nice lunch and a fine Bordeaux was on offer .

  2. migtronixMEMBER

    “Allegations of unwanted Ice hysterectomies recall grim time in US history
    A report claims women in immigration centers are being given unnecessary procedures that can leave them unable to conceive. The story is all too familiar”

    Wake me up when the Christian conservatives got outraged over that.

    • Clearly, the United Front has now seen that MacroBusiness needs to be targeted and they’ve got someone on the case.

      You’ll find that most people here are well informed and well educated so we aren’t going to be a push over to your lies and nonsense. If you don’t have something positive to say in the discussion, then I’d suggest you leave…

      As for rape as a tool of warfare, I’d suggest you do some reading.

      https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11

      • Conflating “schooling” with ” education” is a common mistake.
        ++++++++
        In some non western countries Germans killed 100 children for each dead nazi and 50 children for each wounded. Rape on Easter front is the least documented atrocity by guardian and all other westworld media.
        Neither if this makes excuse and justification for allegations of rape in Nazi Germany during slaying of the evil unprecedented in the documented history of mankind, but it gives it a well defined and fair context.
        Oh, we should not forget that those alleged “rapists” broke the spine of Germans in Stalingrad battle which is the main reason you’re not speaking German lingo right now.

        • Are you nuts? “Oh, we should not forget that those alleged “rapists” broke the spine of Germans in Stalingrad battle which is the main reason you’re not speaking German lingo right now.” You are an apologist for vindictive actions on innocent people. Trolls on the SCMP say similar things and justify the CCP’s actions now on things that happened 2000 years ago. The context may have been added but is never an excuse for the repulsive crimes committed on innocents.

          • When crimes are not a subject of selective memory, perhaps you’d be right. I stated above, every crime is crime.

            It is hypocrisy not to mention crimes krauts committed on the eastern front anywhere in westworld media. When you see hundreds of dead children, some of which perhaps yours I am sure you would find human side in the aggressor nation. /sarc

  3. ashentegraMEMBER

    I wonder if the rapes are recreational or a program to impregnate Uyghur women with Han characteristics, as in Bosnia.

    Systemic state-sponsored rape (don’t expect documentation) is a brutally effective way to destroy a people and their culture. It shatters the lives of the mothers and their babies – permanently.

    This isn’t Reusa-style fun, this is genocide.

        • LOL, did you read the original post I replied to or just injected usual meme?
          Dr.Ongo, there are no ethnicities in Bosnia, all one same mob in one same culture and 3 variations of the same monotheistic religion. The last one being fertile soil for trouble.
          Name a war, particularly a civil war which did not have rape vectored in every direction.

          • So systematic rape is OK then, because it is normal and it always happens in war situations, nothing to see here. It is even more acceptable in case of Bosnia, because… same people. Got it. Good to know where you sit on psychopathy spectrum.

          • LOL, the density is immense.
            I said rape occurs mostly by all sides and it is not proven to be motivated by anything but anger and deprivation.
            But if you have an agenda it will be hard to fathom anything that deviates from narrow mindset.
            Read the first post I responded to before commenting moreon

  4. Luca BiasonMEMBER

    In the UK the Genocide Amendment passed the House of Lords 359 to 188.

    US is discussing the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act.

    Here some unnamed guy that for reasons better known somewhere in deep outer space is often sought after by some sector of the media as an (the?) expert of everything about China, or ‘omniosinologist’ is the cheerleader of the #seenoevidence gang, and always happy to remind us (in that peculiar modern UFWD way) that yes…terrible what’s happening in Xinjiang but hey, that’s how you deal with terrorism. And hey, let’s keep publishing with them re development of AI and other useful tools to do facial recognition, social media mining, you know: all that stuff that helps to round and lock them up, enforce some family separations here and there…you know…tough stuff but someone has to do it.

    Maybe England should have rounded up all those awful Irish lads, Spain should have built internment camps for those Basques nutjobs, Italy should have performed 5000W electroconvulsive therapy on all members of the PCI (Communist Party of Italy) during the years of lead, etc. etc.

  5. Some Australians think, ” This is just a power struggle. If we let China have what it wants then all our problems will simply go away.”.

    If you want to know what Australia will look like under China, just look at Hong Kong. Thats how Australias going to be if we dont defend our Freedoms in this Country.

    • Except unlike (rightfully for) HK, Aus is not claimed as Chinese Territory occupied by the english crown.
      And also there is no indication of any kind that China wants to occupy Aus in any shape and form. We sold them everything at our own desire beging them to buy from us. Every power wants to have influence over minions like Aus and the fact that many will just live Aus to be US lapdog does not mean such arrangement is beneficial for Aus.

      • It’s been overwhelmingly beneficial for Australia since WW2. To listen to some of you one would be led to think that two giants will fight it out and the client states will be unaffected. What nonsense. Australia is vulnerable to China. The USA isn’t. Sit on the sidelines if you wish. Tear up ANZUS, too. Who cares?

          • The only thing sucking the life out of Australia are Australians themselves. The USA doesn’t force you to take on ridiculous debt. It didn’t force you to gut manufacturing or export tertiary education. It doesn’t make you choose what you eat, drink, watch or anything else. And it doesn’t make threats towards you. Sucking the life out of you? Get yourself some vaseline before you chafe.

  6. Ronin8317MEMBER

    Nearly everything you read on Xinjiang is propaganda. The rape camp allegation have been around since 2016, and it conveniently becomes ‘news’ when Western politicians wants an excuse to act against China.

    What is undisputed is the massive amount of security presence in the capital city : a police guard post every 500 meter. “Wonderful Land” indeed.

    • There are more AI cameras in UK per capita than in any country in the world.
      One can dodge the eyesight of an underpaid policeman but try to avoid eye of a camera.

      • Luca BiasonMEMBER

        Djenka, I trust the UK operates under different frameworks, particularly the independence of the judiciary and not a political-legal system, to start with.

        https://observatoryihr.org/news/amnesty-international-denounce-nypds-use-of-invasive-facial-recognition-technology/

        “In August 2020, Britain’s Court of Appeal found that police use of facial recognition technology violated human rights and data protection laws, ruling that “public confidence, fairness and transparency are vitally important”.

        • Do you really think they got those two ruskie qay clowns whom allegedly poisoned Skripals with deadliest poison known to men – and failed to kill more than a parrot – by getting hundreds of bobies to watch the endless amount of videos and recognise them?

          • It would be good if you answered a direct question for once, rather than always deflecting. So what is your agenda, Đenka, vis-a-vis China/Australia relationship?

          • Haha, you’re a chaser now.
            A true stalker of my own! Cool.
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            What is asserted without evidence or sense can be dismissed without evidence and as nonsense. See above.
            -=-=-=-

            My agenda is sowing cognitive dissonance amongst the high density ones and I admit this is an easy pick and always a lowest hanging fruit. Hence,well, you.

    • Luca BiasonMEMBER

      Not sure I follow the line here. Selective use of the evidence for political means does not equate to propaganda? There’s nothing particularly propagandistic about mass detention and cultural assimilation (see Tibet for reference) but happy to hear your views. It may not meet all criteria of genocide but definitely all those of crimes against humanity under the Rome Statute of the ICC.

    • the more interesting problem is
      What do you do with this information even if you can prove that it is correct?
      Do you Invade China?
      Wag your finger at China and lecture them on western moral standards?
      Do you …..
      What can you do?
      From my experience those that scream the loudest about such matters, are also the least willing to lay down their own lives to ensure that their desired change actually happens. It all leaves me wondering how sincere they really are.

        • Yep, we’ve seen that invasion works when it comes to fighting unproven human rights violations.
          Perhaps the perspective changes when human rights violations are not peddled by adversaries and with heavy political agenda encumbering the reporting and proof.

      • Even though we are far outgunned by China it does not mean we are powerless. All Australia has done so far is voiced our opinion over a loud speaker and look at the reaction we have got from Xi and his cronies. Have you noticed how kids or even adults sometimes kick and destroy things, or have you seen a guy abusing a female? If people know that others are watching and are willing to say something change happens.

      • That just sounds like specious sophistry. There might not be much one can do today but such acts need to be noted and documented where possible. It is impossible to say which way the wind blows and what may be extant in 5 or 10 or 15 years may not reflect today’s situation.
        Dodgy as perfectly summarises your comment.

        • Yep Dodgy as that’s a fair summary of this whole matter.
          Maybe the reported facts are true, I certainly can’t verify any of the claims, excepting the existence of the camps
          Maybe Chinese soldiers are acting on orders in which case this is a form of racial genocide
          Or maybe they’re just a bunch of bored lonely soldiers taking liberties with the local ladies
          It wouldn’t be the first time that we have seen rape used as a tool of war (repression), nor would it be the first time that bored lonely horny young soldiers have stepped over the line.
          truth is I just don’t know what’s really happening
          If you want to grab a rifle and fly to Kazakhstan I’m sure you can sneak across the border and find some clueless Chinese soldiers and extract your revenge, I’m just not sure that that will change anything. Or that any change resulting from such an action will be for the better.
          So yes I take note of what is being claimed
          Yes I’m appalled by these claims
          But no I’m not going to do anything because I don’t fully understand the possible consequences of my words of deeds.
          But you sound like a strapping young lad so off you go, good luck and bon chance.

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