Will Trump be impeached?

Decide for yourself:

David Llewellyn-Smith
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  1. Do They still want to have Trump around ? I dont get it LOL Dems are hilarious some time. even the GOP want him to disappear quietly.

  2. I’m not sure. But I think it is probably wise to not impeach him. Don’t make the bloke into a martyr. Just put security on high alert for the next 9 days and let him fade into obscurity. I know there are some entitlements he gets to keep if not impeached but if we’re being honest, the bloke probably doesn’t have too many years left given he’s 75 and is not a temple.

    • Maybe so, but it would set a good precedent for the future and remove the head of those trying to destroy the American system, actually maybe that would be a good thing, depending what comes next

    • Impeachment efforts are so redundant it hurts my small brain contemplating it. They can have a show trial after the inauguration no problem – it will be to the same pointless end, but they can waste vastly more time on it and demonstrate much more virtue by decrying x’ism in their tweets .

  3. For those who suggest Trump will be too old in 2028 to run again – it doesn’t matter! If The Movement is still kept aflame it’s not long until the next test of Trumpism (even if it’s without Trump)
    “The 2022 United States Senate elections will be held on November 8, 2022, with 34 of the 100 seats in the Senate being contested”

    • RobotSenseiMEMBER

      21 GOP v 13 Dems

      That’s a lot of seats to defend when you don’t believe in elections.

      • Which number? The 13!
        Regardless. As someone writes above, martyring Trump isn’t going to sway many in the 21 is it!
        This whole exercise is about reminding anyone who has the temerity to challenge the anointed class – be that Democrat or Republican of the consequences of that action. It was supposed to be Hilary not Donald. It was her turn. And in due course it was to be handed back to, say, a Bush. ‘Trump’ was never thought to be possible, and it will not be allowed again.

        • migtronixMEMBER

          No Janet the people who had some hope from Trump for some Randian utopia will be disappointed again. Some will be tried for treason.

        • This whole exercise is about reminding anyone who has the temerity to challenge the anointed class – be that Democrat or Republican of the consequences of that action. It was supposed to be Hilary not Donald. It was her turn. And in due course it was to be handed back to, say, a Bush. ‘Trump’ was never thought to be possible, and it will not be allowed again.

          FMD this stuff is just surreal.

        • the court jester wore the crown and the serfs felt themselves represented, too zealous and hopeful to realize the joke was on them.

  4. Of course they will impeach him – the whole point is to humiliate him and his supporters such that no one EVER attempts to gain the US presidency without the expressed approval of the main stream media, the banking elites and our new cultural overlords.

  5. Trump may be gone in 10 days but his vision cannot be easily brushed aside.

    Simply put, Trump wanted the US to quit being the sole global superpower and become an ordinary regional power. Withdraw the troops from the other side of the globe and quit being the sole issuer of the world’s reserve currency by revitalizing the industrial base and start running current account surpluses. In short, place ordinary American’s interests ahead of maintaining the world order. This would have meant a truly seismic shift and its implications to the world would have been massive.

    I doubt that the Trump supporters fully grasped what would have meant to follow Trump’s vision. It would have meant living within their means without any help from the printing press. It would have meant paying higher taxes and/or foregoing government benefits. It would have meant falling living standards, at least for the short-term. Above all, it would have meant NOT making America great again, unless you think retreating from being a sole global superpower and becoming an ordinary regional power is a great thing.

    I think some reset would be necessary for the US, because the current trajectory is clearly unsustainable in the long run.

    Now that Trump lost, it looks like the US will go back to its old ways of doing things – kicking the can. But doing so wouldn’t solve a thing.

    • You do realise Trump spent like a drunken sailor and blew the debt out from day one of his presidency?! This isn’t 2016.

  6. The definition of hypocrisy?

    “(In 2005) Pelosi expressed concern about “the integrity of our elections” and urged reforms.

    “The American people must have confidence that every vote legally cast will be legally counted and accurately counted. But constantly shifting vote tallies in Ohio and malfunctioning electronic machines which may not have paper receipts have led to additional loss of confidence by the public,” Pelosi argued.”
    https://tinyurl.com/y58mp7r6

      • Are you seriously suggesting, based on the environment that has been stewing for the past 4 years that had Trump been reelected that that there wouldn’t be violence in the capital right now? That every single elected and non elected mouthpiece that has called the last 4 years as illegitimate would not be advocating for a ‘what ever it takes’ approach? Talk about delusional.

  7. The Americans have a bigger problem than Trump. All this anger wasn’t caused by Trump, he simply latched on to it. I’ve been seeing this kind of chatter on and off for years in more moderate right-wing sites for a decade or more. I can only imagine what’s going on in the hardcore ones. I think it is a function of increasing inequality.

    All these people need is a good leader and they could do some real damage. This should be the wake-up call. Yes, Trump should be impeached, but don’t ignore the wider problem.

    • I think there is left wing about this too. The sides seem to hate each other so much that there is no willingness to reach across to each other and compromise. Trump inflamed it no doubt but this hyper partisan politics has been in the works for sometime

      • Yes, more extremism on both the left and the right. I guess, being slightly right leaning, I pay more attention to the right than I do the left.

    • Hernando de Soto

      >” moderate right-wing sites”
      That’s why the big tech firms are cancelling moderate right-wing sites.

  8. Hey, who needs Parler? All those nutcases should come over here to MB. They’ll feel right at home with the fruitcakes here.

    Let it go guys.Trump didn’t give a flying fig about the things you swear he did. HE WAS IN IT FOR HIMSELF.
    He tried to start an insurrection. (read the full twitter feed). He failed again. He is responsible for the deaths of 5 people.
    And still he has morons defending him. His whole family are laughing at YOU.

    • Yes, Trump didn’t care. But they don’t care. All they want is a leader. Doesn’t have to be Trump.

  9. There might be some legal leverage gained by impeaching Trump again ? I’d certainly know nothing about that situation up I’d imagine this is being used as a way to eliminate the Trump threat posed when he leaves office. The man had 80 million people vote for him and a sizeable group of dedicated supporters , these people aren’t likely to collectively fail to appreciate his input into future political dealings even from outside the party apparatus.

    A Trump TV network would e a major thorn in the side of the DNC and the ultimate platform to maximise and weaponise the effectiveness of Trump’s style of personal charisma. Perhaps the impeachment renders him vulnerable to post office legal proceedings which may compromise his ability to operate as a private citizen ?

  10. I still get a kick out of people spouting that Trump was some genius with big ideas. He was a conman and a showman whose ability to sound smart to a certain group of people, by parroting stuff he heard other people say, was so successful that it carried him way beyond his his depth.

    Ultimately, he couldn’t regulate his BS and was too stupid to know where the line was.

    For a guy who’ll need money when he leaves office, the social media bans will cost him dearly.

    • migtronixMEMBER

      He’s a Russian asset that allowed first to infiltrate huge numbers of targets via cyber espionage then to wander around congress at will.

      • Hahaha, spoken with all the fact free delusion of the ‘MAGA is Jesus’ crew.

        Perhaps I’m romanticizing, but I thought I could recall a day when MB members would dissect and dismiss propaganda, not gleefully regurgitate it? Often hard to distinguish between MB comments and those from the pick your poison MSM rags.

        MB is an interesting case study though, given it’s roots, and the types of members it ‘should’ in theory attract, even it has not been immune from a clear shift in language, extreme polarization of opinion and the propensity to disregard reason and objectivity in defense of ones chosen tribe or ideology…. Micro anecdote I know, but I think it says a lot about the world once you extrapolate those themes across a populace with limited appetite for detail in the first place and a political class laser focused on exploiting it.

        • It happened ~5 years ago along with an increasing number of conservative commenters, a shift to a significantly more anti-immigration narrative and a notable increase in the now de rigueur MSM-esque clickbait headlines.

      • No. It was demagoguery and narcissism but it didn’t warrant the insane press coverage we had for 4 years.

          • My stoopidity* lmmao I grew up in the political at the state level, Goldwater was a good family friend, as well top state business leaders and inroads to national and all common dinner table topics. Do you remember I dated a Senators daughter, kicked out his guests [chortle] when I first met him with his daughter whilst he was hanging in Malibu Cove – wanted to pump me for info as a newly discharged guy with special ops experience. Plus in his eyes having a bloke like me dating his daughter was a feather in his cap …

            So you’ll excuse me if I don’t acknowledge a bunch of anecdotal musings from the burnt mob.

          • Its getting a bit boring opening up the comments backend to do a quick moderation each night before dinner…and then to constantly see Kodiak leave his “touch” on the varied anti-American (to his eyes) posts et al.
            Its been what, 10 years now Kodiak? Still not going home? Or have you not run out of Australians to call morons yet?
            Got to catch them all!

          • You’ve been leaving your putrid scent on this site for years and are a gatekeeper.

            I’m in the middle of a divorce. I could very easily leave if I never wanted to see my young children again. Not that it’s any of your f*cking business.

    • Your opinion lacking of nuance is the exact opposite mistake that you pillory in others. Of course he’s not a genius. Big surprise. But he offered some basic truths that resonated with a lot of people and still do. China is a bad actor. That is the story of the century. He was the wrong man to deliver that message because he could never be trusted. It’s hard to even call him a showman, unless your show selection is the worst grade of reality TV.

      • “But he offered some basic truths that resonated with a lot of people and still do. China is a bad actor.”

        What “basic truths” – like he was draining the swamp he was born into and got rich off, knew more about everything than everyone else, crowed surfed the evag mumblers and hand healers for a buck, encouraged the most weak minded that he was the chosen one and if the believed enough it would unleash his special magic powers so the third Jerusalem space ship would land in his yard – ???? – that sorta truth – ????

        How is China a bad actor when everyone and their dog stampeded to the biggest untapped market in the world which had zero functioning legal commerce architecture for a fast buck and rid themselves of all the legacy/ compliance costs back home …. IBGYBG …. because markets …

        • I knew you’d be summoned. You are absolutely certifiable. Too bad there isn’t an ignore function. Your posts wouldn’t see the light of day.

          • So its pure ad hominem action from you and stew, curious considering stews attempts at formal logic of late, when it suits. Please provide any evidence to the contrary of what I posted, just basic stuff that anyone with out a forest of planks in their eye could acknowledge, but yeah, that emotional mill stone is a MF’er …

    • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

      Trump is a conman and a showman. Always has been.
      But it wasn’t his instincts that got him across the line.
      Just like every other President he had his backers.

      “Robert Mercer, a reclusive Long Island hedge-fund manager, who has become a major force behind the Trump Presidency.”

      “During the past decade, Mercer, who is seventy, has funded an array of political projects that helped pave the way for Trump’s rise. Among these efforts was public-opinion research, conducted by Caddell, showing that political conditions in America were increasingly ripe for an outsider candidate to take the White House.”

      http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/the-reclusive-hedge-fund-tycoon-behind-the-trump-presidency

      It was Clintons people that perfected the winning of elections by pandering to “public opinion researching”

      https://youtu.be/VouaAz5mQAs

      • “public opinion researching”

        See Adam Curtis ‘Century of the Self ‘ episode “Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering”

        Four: Eight People Sipping Wine in Kettering
        Thursday 2 May 7pm-8pm

        This episode explains how politicians on the left, in both Britain and America, turned to the techniques developed by business to read and fulfill the inner desires of the self.

        Both New Labour, under Tony Blair, and the Democrats, led by Bill Clinton, used the focus group, which had been invented by psychoanalysts, in order to regain power. They set out to mold their policies to people’s inner desires and feelings, just as capitalism had learnt to do with products.

        Out of this grew a new culture of public relations and marketing in politics, business and journalism. One of its stars in Britain was Matthew Freud who followed in the footsteps of his relation, Edward Bernays, the inventor of public relations in the 1920s.

        The politicians believed they were creating a new and better form of democracy, one that truly responded to the inner feelings of individual. But what they didn’t realize was that the aim of those who had originally created these techniques had not been to liberate the people but to develop a new way of controlling them.

        PS did not check your link, but now see its the same dynamic that I just pointed out … concur.

      • Jumping jack flash

        “Trump is a conman and a showman.”
        Not only Trump. The US is a nation of showmen and grifters.

        Trump is easy to understand. He has the rocket’s red glare in his eyes and is firmly living in the 50’s.

        Everyone else has moved on to the 00s though. Trump is about 50 to 60 years too late to save the US, if that was even his intention, and i honestly think he thought it was.

      • You’re better than this. Look into Biden’s and Hillary’s funding. Scary what’s happened.

    • That is my view too though it seems I was wide of the mark that through all this angst he was angling for pardons for him and his kin. Looks like Mike Pence is disowning him so he might have to try self-pardoning.

  11. I see Trump as an opportunist. He’s clearly not a great strategic thinker but what he did was to cobble together a collection of simple solutions to complex problems which appealed to specific groups. I myself enjoyed his attack on the CCP despite being totally opposed to his tax and fiscal policies (lunacy), his not-so-veiled racism and his cozying up with dictators.

    Whether he’s impeached this week, or not, really doesn’t matter. He lost the election and will be consigned to the dustbin of history. The GOP will have 2 years to recover from him before the next election and 4 before it has to face, most likely, Harris, and id say that’s plenty of time for Trump’s personal power to fade in the Republican Party. People profess fealty to him now, out of fear. But without the platform of the Presidency and the money and influence and the ability to exact revenge, he’s going to become just another right-wing gadfy with many in the GOP likely to be quite happy to see him gone, and his shadow small.

    My guess is he’s also going to face a spiders web of litigation, he will be openly shunned and he will find out that his lack of loyalty to people is paid in kind.

  12. A law is due to be passed in Poland that would fine Big Tech firms ~$2million every time they unconstitutionally censor lawful speech online.
    Under its provisions, social media services will not be allowed to remove content or block accounts if they do not break Polish law.
    Why is Poland taking steps to preserve free speech on social media? They have been occupied by both Nazism and Communism. They recognize tyranny when they see it.

    • That’s an utterly unworkable law for the internet.

      The most likely outcome will simply be the affected companies will simply pull the pin on any local legal entity that could be held responsible.

      • Rubbish. They just save millions and shut down their censorship trans and only censor when ordered to. Why loose billions in profits for some absurd identity politics virtue signalling. You are so out of touch.

      • Genuine question (yes, it’s best these days to clarify that up front)

        What would make the Polish law anymore unworkable than one that seeks to apply the same penalties in the event that SM platforms DONT remove content deemed to be illegal within x time. Bearing in mind that the definition of what is and is not legal will also deliberately broad and probably far better described as ‘objectionable’ which would capture the highly subjective nature of that many of these proposed laws operate within.

        • It reverses the expectation that exists basically everywhere else in the world.

          It doesn’t work because content that’s enforced as legal in Poland may well (/almost certainly will) be illegal in other locations. So they can’t err on the side of caution by taking stuff down and then restoring it later, because they’re in a position where leaving it up is illegal in most places and taking it down is illegal in Poland.

          And just so a bunch of bigots can get their hate on ?

          Since the vast majority of countries will not work in this fashion, the logical outcome is to exit Poland from a legal entity perspective.

    • reusachtigeMEMBER

      LOLOLOL and Iran passes a law that states that anyone in America who has pre-marital sex will be executed!

    • Free speech is over rated on social media. 20% of traffic is just idiots trying to out idiot each other for a share of marketing dollars. Another 20% is just crap that some idiot wrote while drunk that people believe because its in their feed. 40% is clever marketers looking to be noticed by rehashing old content and the last and most useful 20% is mindless cat videos.

      If free speech is the ability to promote any crack pot and sometimes dangerous idea to a bunch of pre conditioned idiots who are too lazy to do their own research, free speech becomes indesinguishable from natrual selection. Let them drink bleach while planking from a burning 5g tower and screw it i’ll even flim it as i dump a bucket of ice water over their head.

      • Or another way of phrasing it….. Preventing the democratically elected leader of the free world from communicating with people to support your own political and corporate agenda of private corporate global companies.
        Seriously the left wing is so utterly ignorant.

      • Jevons ghostMEMBER

        @ HFW. Nailed it. Well done. So tell me, do you yourself subscribe to any of the commonly-used “social media” platforms?

        • Linked in out of neccessity, had a facebook account finally remembered the password a week ago and deleted it. No twitter or others. Thinking of starting an only fans site to cash in on my adonis like body 🙂

          Interestingly reading the news during the pandemic lockdown when we were all glued to news sites for the latest pearls of scomo marketing, i foung myself wondering. Is there going to be legislation introduced to charge news corp for the stories it generates from instagram T&A pages? Because that seems to be 90% of what news corp deems newsworthy these days.

  13. Jumping jack flash

    As the people-fodder in the machine realise their plight, they flop and flip, and flip and flop between their carefully selected choices for leadership, hoping that one of them will be able to wield the power and lend an ear to set things “right”. One who may rescue them and bring them their hopes and dreams. After all, America is and was the land of opportunity, the land of the free, the land where if you have a go, you get a go.

    Sadly this is no longer the case and the leaders we have the privilege to choose from, in all countries, in all corners of the world no longer possess the power to make it so, and will never again.

    Swapping between Party A and Party B every couple of years will not make a single shred of difference because neither party has the jurisduction nor the desire to affect the plight of the common man. They are far too busy taking care of the important issues.

    Im sure the private companies in charge have a service desk you can contact during working hours, and if you’re really lucky you may get to speak to someone you can understand, and perhaps someone who even sounds like they might care about what you have to say.

    • MountainGuinMEMBER

      And historically when things are tough, people don’t just look to party A or B but start looking more extreme, either within the parties or to other parties.
      What will USA be looking like in 4 years?

      • Jumping jack flash

        Indeed. The people are frustrated everywhere. They realise the system is geared against them and look to the leaders to change it.

        The cruel fact is that Party A and Party B are the same Party. How can they be different? Each has the same level of control.