Sweden locks down

There really is no alternative:

Sweden’s prime minister warned the country the spread of coronavirus was “going to get worse” as he introduced fresh laws limiting the numbers of people being able to gather.

From next week Sweden, only eight people will be permitted to gather at public events, with officials strongly encouraged people to adopt the same limit in private.

Prime Minister Stefan Löfven said the new limits were part of the Public Order Act and would apply for four weeks.

He added the “extremely interventionist measure” had no equivalent in modern times.

Here is the Swedish data:

It’s done very well with deaths in the second wave. But it all comes apart when hospitals get overwhelmed. As well, as the mortality rate spikes then the private sector shuts anyway.

Until the vaccines arrive, the hammer and the dance is the only way to go. The hammer of lockdowns crushes the virus and then you dance with contact tracing etc. Socially cohesive Australia and large parts of Asia have done brilliantly in this regard. Their economies have had far less damage as a result.

Conversely, lockdown-averse Atlantic developed markets did terribly. Europe couldn’t bring itself to close borders. The US is too libertarian. The damage to their peoples and economies is far greater.

Those arguing for no lockdowns to be ever used because the cost is too high are about as right as this bloke:

Celebrity chef turned conspiracy theorist Pete Evans will not appear on the upcoming season of I’m A Celebrity … Get Me Out Of Here! after a savage social media backlash.

Speculation erupted yesterday that Evans would be part of the reality show’s cast when it begins filming next week, but that’s no longer the case.

“Network 10 can confirm that Pete Evans will not be appearing on this season of I’m A Celebrity … Get Me Out Of Here!” a Ten spokesperson told news.com.au.

It follows comments from the Byron Bay based chef and author, which appeared to suggest that humans are not capable of spreading COVID-19.

He also shared and later deleted a cartoon that included the Black Sun symbol from Nazi Germany, sparking outage on social media.

He publicly apologised, claiming he had no idea of the symbol’s historical significance.

Though I have to say, lockdown is not blameless when it comes to breaking vulnerable minds.

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Comments

  1. Those Nov death numbers look like a bit of a yawn. Wonder if this has more to do with Swedish politicians not wanting to be the butt of global political jokes.

    • Goldstandard1MEMBER

      I personally don’t just look at the deaths. Yes it knocks off the more vulnerable, but it’s got some really nasty after effects for us younger healthier folk. I consider myself in the fittest 5% of population but I still don’t want it.

  2. I’m a doctor, there’s clouds of covid floating over our suburbs right now, but lockdowns don’t work. It’s a marathon, not a sprint, and Sweden is doing better than everyone else by not locking.. wait what?

  3. Social cohesiveness in Australia, particularly Melbourne is asymmetrical.
    Some parts of Melbourne are socially cohesive, some not so much.
    This has been typically indicated on maps showing numbers of Covid19 cases.
    Typically the more recently developed areas to the West of Melbourne have had higher numbers of cases.
    One cannot underestimate the “diversity” factor.

  4. We still don’t know what we are dealing with and rushing out vaccines intended for 7 billion people after testing on a few carefully selected volunteers is an experiment on a scale never before contemplated. It has all the hallmarks of Mr Musk’s sky full of satellites and don’t bother about the rest of the world. How does it mutate and why and when ? We don’t know.

    https://www.rt.com/news/506796-coronavirus-italy-blood-september/

    There will be a huge variation in cases, infections and deaths now as the people disappear off the streets making comparisons with the recent past useless. The virus remains in charge. Would really like to know who in the National Cabinet made the initial decision to go with hotel quarantine instead of standing up real quarantine facilities at the remote RAAF bases. Even now no effort is being made to prepare for the long term in case these vaccines don’t let us go back to 2018.

    • In the meantime, gold stocks got totally smashed because we don’t need any stimulus. We have vaccines now and all debt is paid. Govs have massive surpluses to spend so no need to print in case there is still some small need for stimuluses to just get the economies moving.
      Took a risk and topped up an hour ago at or near the bottom. I am nervous though..

    • “Would really like to know who in the National Cabinet made the initial decision to go with hotel quarantine instead of standing up real quarantine facilities at the remote RAAF bases” – Dan.

      • Dan, or any other state premier, did not decide on commonwealth quarantine policy as it applies to all states and territories. That’s Peter Dutton’s portfolio, Home Affairs, which includes Customs and Border Security. That’st the lead agency for these matters

  5. What do people think the total number of deaths for Sweden will be this year compared to previous years. Considering the hype around coronavirus you would think it must be significantly higher, possibly even twice what it usually is. Instead it is pretty much tracking what you see in any other year. https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/
    Yes deaths were higher in the first few months of covid but they have been lower since then as it was mostly killing the nearly dead. And for no appreciable increase in total deaths for the year, people are running around cheering on the greatest restraints on individual freedoms that western governments have ever imposed.

    • And for no appreciable increase in total deaths for the year, people are running around cheering on the greatest restraints on individual freedoms that western governments have ever imposed.

      Yeah. Even worse than wartime rationing and conscription !

      • If you cast your mind back 4 months ago even Australian supermarkets were rationing as the plebs terrified by the MSM stockpiled food. Although I perhaps should have said outside of war conditions. Although even during the wars people were not placed under movement restrictions to anywhere near the extent they have been for covid. But I’m sure you can nit pick some other points in order to avoid the main one that covid has not lead to any significant increase in total deaths this year in Sweden.

      • Here is my comment without links as that version may get eaten by the censors.
        No it hasn’t, 1.4 million died from TB alone last year (1) and malaria kills around another 400K per year (2). Seasonal influenza only kills around 290 – 650K (3), but chronic respiratory diseases in total killed an estimated 3.91 million deaths in 2017 (4). Even diahorrea kills more every year than covid with 1.5 million (5).
        Lots of people die every year and will continue to do so long after the hysteria around covid dies off. Yes precautions should be taken and the vulnerable protected where possible, but for a disease that largely is only dangerous to the old and morbid the reactions to it have been wildly disproportionate.

  6. From next week Sweden, only eight people will be permitted to gather at public events, with officials strongly encouraged people to adopt the same limit in private.

    So if this is lockdown, Swedish style, what do we call what happened in Melbourne now? They are hardly comparable.

    Shades of grey but Dan gave us black.

  7. Jumping jack flash

    Sweden today, next the US.
    I know Biden has indirectly said he isn’t going to lock down but as you say there isnt really any alternative, plus he made the election about COVID and AGW, which are both admirable endeavours, and about as anti-Trump as you can get policy-wise, but at some stage he’ll need to deliver or face the ire of the people. I guess.

  8. Look at the second graph showing deaths. Look at the recent “wave”. Now compare the death wave to cases. Adjust for lag. If they didn’t lock down before during *THIS* (points at first wave deaths), why would they need to lock down *NOW* (Points at current low death rate)? Not a pandemic at this stage, its endemic (and the over-testing shows a “casedemic”). Sweden locking down at this point is purely political and it WILL NOT change a d a m n thing. Lofven is reacting to what? The polls? Tegnell’s advice is solid, albeit often misreported in Western media. What changed? Certainly nothing in the Swedish stats supports this. Rising positive pcr tests mean nothing if people are not actually sick. If not sick then it’s not a “case”. The average Swede seems to understand this but Western media remains wilfully ignorant (and unjustifiably smug).

    Ivor Cummins: crucial update (20 mins)
    https://youtu.be/mboEkVl9ooc

    Interview with Dr Sucharit Bhakti (1 hour) https://youtu.be/ZnpnBYgGARE

    Corona virus in Sweden: an update from the chief epidemiologist (1 hour)
    https://youtu.be/0IgbuUD5MjQ

    Johan Giesecke – Why lock downs are the wrong policy
    https://youtu.be/bfN2JWifLCY

    P. S. comparison with Pete Evans is false equivalency and does your position no good David.

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