Biden picks Harris as VP

by Chris Becker

The US presidential race heated up overnight with presumptive Democratic nominee ex-Vice President Joe Biden picking Senator Kamala Harris, fulfilling his promise of a female VP choice. More from BBC:

A year ago, the California senator had surged to the front of a crowded field of candidates on the back of a series of strong debate performances – and a searing critique of her rival Joe Biden over race. By the end of 2019, however, her campaign was dead.

A California Democrat with a law enforcement resume, Ms Harris tried to walk the fine line between the progressive and moderate wings of her party, but ended up appealing to neither, ending her candidacy in December before the first Democratic contest in Iowa in early 2020.

In March, Ms Harris endorsed the former vice-president, saying she would do “everything in my power to help elect him the next President of the United States”.

A solid choice – it didn’t matter for the Democratic campaign who was their VP pick in terms of opposition, the Trump campaign would slander and cajole any and all – because it opens up the possibility of the other major contender for the VP pick Susan Rice, to become Secretary of State. It also gives the growing progressive side of the Democratic Party a boost, given the Californian Senator is more progressive than almost all of her colleagues, save for Bernie Sanders.

The only downside to Harris strategically is on a presumptive Biden/Harris win, she loses her Senate seat that the Dem’s need to gain a US Senate majority to actually push through any meaningful legislation and not have a repeat of the Obama troubles. Also, it misses an opportunity for her to become the Attorney-General in a Biden administration, but the strategy here is more long term, given she is very likely to be the nominee for the 2024 presidential election. On the periphery it also puts to bed (well for rational people at least, I refer you to the comic above) the concerns over a quite old Biden, since the 55 year old Harris is sharp as a tack.

In terms of TV entertainment, a debate with wax doll Pence in any VP televised contest would be interesting to say the least.

Less than 100 days to go, and its going to be a fascinating end to a wild 2020. Lock in some more volatility!

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  1. Auckland back in lockdown – elimination on ice!

    Harris was always the fave – social justice bandwagon rolls on. I’m just so ‘woke’!

    Gold and silver smashed. Run!

      • I was just being my sarcastic self. Am thinking the same – although, I’m so long at the mo I should probably restrain myself.

        Big down moves at the beginning of a bull market, big up moves at the end.

  2. That Swampy bet of a KH Presidency just got a little better looking

    Now come on Biden, have a lie down
    And come on Tracc!

    • Ronin8317MEMBER

      Personally I would put his chance of making it past the year at 50/50 with COVID-19 everywhere. Trump may decide to give Biden ‘a little push down the stairs’ during the debate as well. The Republican won’t allow impeachment of Trump even if he kills someone.

      • Ronin8217 … Thank you for enlightening us about the nuances of Ameerican politics.

        We shouldn’t forget how Trump dealt with / to his Republican adversaries prior to the last election.

    • Majority? How about all humans in the world know Biden will not finish his 4 year presidency. Technically Americans now have to chose between KH and DT.

    • Charles MartinMEMBER

      bahahaha, just like when Obama in 2008 needed the white guy to get white people to vote for him, Biden now needs the black female to get black people and women to vote for him.

    • pfh007.comMEMBER

      I am amazed that anyone is confident that Donald would finish another 4 year term.

      He is 74 and looks like a prime cut of wagyu beef with mohair frosting.

      Plenty of COVID-19 boxes ticked right there.

      As for sounding like more than a few gray cells missing – they are about as bad as each other – Trump would benefit from reading words that make some sense than the free form stuff he is spouting lately.

      • RobotSenseiMEMBER

        Maybe a few more games of “spot the elephant” would get him ready for four more years of Wreck-it-Ralph.

  3. I am so waiting for a debate Trump/Biden, the former is gonna mop the floor with the latter lol

    If Biden wins ( very unlikely IMO), Harris will be POTUS mid-2021 considering his rapid intellectual decline.

    Can Trump still change his VP to a Black woman too ?, that would neutralize the Dems woke move

    • FUDINTHENUDMEMBER

      Judging by Trumpo’s recent interviews, I wouldn’t put my money on him in the debates either..

      • The funny thing about this interview, he has specifically asked at the end of it, not to be edited and published in full even as he did not do well.
        He knows TV.
        By Nov, Biden will not have the intellect to debate him. I cannot wait for all the exploding libs heads if he wins (and I think it s likely)

        • I cannot wait for all the exploding libs heads if he wins […]

          Pretty much the breadth and depth of contemporary right-wing beliefs, in a nutshell.

          Truly an inspirational vision: “I just want to make people I don’t like angry.”

          • The leftists are so full of spite against The Don (and against all who are not left) their entertainment value cannot be discounted.I still love to rewatch all the CNN/CNBC shows from the election night.I am hopeful this Nov shows night will be amazing too.The medias/commentators are still stuck it their groupthinking/TDS trap, it s even worst than 2016.Fortunately for you I could be wrong 😉

          • “Spite”. 🙄

            You need to spend some time with a mirror and dictionary if you want to see who is motivated by “spite”.

  4. DNC re-run of GOP 2008 McCain-Palin ticket. I wanna see Bides and Harry bus’ing together on the campaign trial together. And they’ll need to cause they wont walk in a straight line those two.
    Tulsi destroyed any legit legacy Harry’ had as CA AG in the Democratic debates.
    If you were confident in this ticket, you”d think a CA senate seat should be no trouble to retain for the Dems.
    Bides best days are behind him. This is all about his VP. And no one cared about Palin’s gender when they plastered her in 2008. Double double standards. Lets see what sane person hasnt had enough of the Democrat mobsters in the blue States, and the Fed House and Senate.

    • “Tulsi destroyed any legit legacy Harry’ had as CA AG in the Democratic debates.” – I was about to mention that.

      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        “solid choice”

        She is only a ‘solid’ candidate in terms of being an acceptable DNC establishment candidate, and those lacking the imagination to see beyond the wall of MSM cheer squads that will be deployed to promote and defend her.

        Tulsi destroyed Harris, maybe if Chris had spent a moment watching her past performance and being absolutely annihilated by a candidate that the MSM did their best to smother to death.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KESLp1nXvvQ

      • Wework Is broke

        If backing Joe/Blow 2020 is not the mainstream media position then I don’t know what is.

      • MB is one of the first newsites I go to. Aside from US politics where your incuriosity is in lockstep with MSM, I look forward to your analysis.

      • Again, I’m not backing Biden or the Democrats. Just like every other rational person on the planet, because they are in the default position opposite Trump and the Trumpist Party (aka ex-GOP), they should be supported.
        FWIW I don’t even read the MSM, can’t stand CNN/MSNBC. Just because my views align sometimes with the “MSM” doesn’t mean I 100% support everything they espouse. FFS.

        • Your statement Harris is a ‘solid choice’ says absolutely nothing positive about her in the same paragraph. How were her actions as a AG progressive when she ramped up locking people up?

          • She “improperly” “retained” prison labor at, ahem… slave wages… for the benefit of state contracts to megacorps.

      • Francis Awaritefe

        The civil unrest is happening in blue areas often with the blue mayors looking the other way.

    • Geez, I didn’t realize we had such a large ZeroHedge cohort reading this site.

      So ironic, because ZH is itself a Russian asset run by a Bulgarian with ties through his father to the FSB and KGB.

  5. I knew you’d delete my comment, Chris Becker.

    Can’t handle anything that goes against your love of the US Democrats. Censorship is a good tool isn’t it?

    • LVO did the first one, I deleted the second one. You know why. I don’t love the Dem’s, but I have no love for Trumpists.
      Its not censorship, you are not a member here – go read the comment rules. If you don’t like the rules, leave.

    • I remember getting a couple of posts taken down for changing Democrats to Democraps in afternoon links for a laugh.
      Censoring is a reality.

      • Lol, why can’t you fork out some money for a membership?

        Typical leftist comment though, you prefer your own little bubble without any to question it.

        • I still remember how R2M was upset in 2012 with those who stopped being house bears (when I started buying properties).LOL that worked well.

      • Changing Democrats to “Democraps” – you are so incredibly funny Rupert. And to think that someone so unjustly deleted your comment in order to keep the site relevant to intelligent people above the age of 10. Tut, tut!

        • Congratulations on taking it to a new level brainiac, 😂
          If what you have just posted is true your post will be deleted in 3 2 1
          Oh wait, it wasn’t anti Democrap.

  6. Leaving aside this particular choice, I wonder at what point selection of a female who is not white will be considered not woke/PC

    I guess some will just always consider any non white/male candidate PC/woke

    What if the primary candidate was a non white female who won. Would all those voters be woke?

    At what point does merit apply, I wonder

    • Its a good question, I suppose when its happened enough that it appears normal and the list of potentials somewhat mimics the general spread of the population in terms of demographics…. and the population can learn accept it…. probably happen a few months after they can accept “racial” differences without noticing them.

      When the 8 running mates considered valid are all female, and almost all non white it gives so much room to accusations of attracting the woke vote as it dramatically different to the general demographics of the population. I realise its entirely possible that they were the only 8 valid candidates and their gender has nothing to do with it. But I am also very aware that from a probability perspective having a Male Presidential candidate does not increase the odds of a female VP candidate.

      I personally have no issue with the gender of a politician, or the “race” they identify as. Its the integrity or lack of that is so much more important.

  7. She was obviously going to be the pick after Tulsi ripped her tits off and Tulsi wasn’t invited to the next debate.

  8. I think Trump scored good points with his stimulus package. Even though it will lead to nothing he cornered the Dems by choosing the middle ground with the $400 p/w offer. Plus tax cuts will be liked by many middle class (whatever is left of the middle class) Dems.
    Any delays caused by the Dems will now be seen as playing political games which really is but not many would have accepted it under different circumstances.
    Interesting times for sure. I still think Trump will lose but I am not saying it with high conviction. Biden with his racist comments is making sure Trump is with a chance.
    If large percentage of black Americans chose to stay home and not vote Biden has no chance. And Biden is only 1 comment away to cause this.

    • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

      As around 90% of African American’s vote for the Democrats – the chances of votes moving to Trump is probably higher than more black votes for the Democrats. There are plenty of black Americans pissed off with the lack of policing in their cities (by far the majority, not that you would believe that if you followed BLM) thanks to DNC and Soro’s lead prosecutors defunding, that there is a fair chance some may even vote Republican for the first time.

      IMHO Harris won’t save the Democrats or ‘clinch’ the black vote. Applying the lens that the popular narrative pushed by the MSM is always false unless proven otherwise – Trumps package is being well received, Harris is a crap candidate, just like Biden, and Trump will win a second term.

      Then everyone who sets their moral compass by CNN or MSNBC, or even worse, our second derivative MSM as represented by progressive ABC and SBS reporters who obtain most of their international views from their CNN or MSNBC colleagues doing their overseas jaunts, will be calling for the Waaaaaaaaambulance and claiming “it was the Russians!”.

        • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

          Because Multicultural societies will never result in ethnic based voting that will threaten our democracy…

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Rome was the very first true Multicultural city…. didn’t work out too well for them in the long run.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Oh it was definitley the corrupt multicultural ruling class that destroyed it. The Roman denarius, whose private silver coinage of the Republic that had remained reliable in silver content for the 400yrs prior to the founding of the Empire, began its decline in silver content not long after the arrival of a certain banking clan from the middle east. It was also not long after their arrival that it ceased being a Republic and became a Dictatorship.

            In addition the genetic ancestry of Rome has actually been tracked through the genetic analysis of a plethora of archaeological remains, which suggests that by the time Rome fell, it had mainly ceased being Roman for some time:

            https://twitter.com/iosif_lazaridis/status/1192518841999462402

            On a positive note, the same historical genetic analysis also reveals that after these multicultural cities eventually destroy themselves, they eventually get repopulated with people from the countryside – which means they can have a second chance…. even if it takes a thousand years to put the pieces back together.

    • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

      Found the blog I was looking for to include in the above comment:

      Nor would you likely be aware that those who bore the brunt of the destruction — largely minorities whose sensibilities don’t fit into any neatly-delineated ideological category — are still acutely suffering from the fallout….

      …According to this man, who like many others did not want to be formally interviewed, the majority of those who wreaked havoc on his establishment were white. Note that scrawled onto the plywood boarding up the Somali man’s shop is the classic anarchist “A” symbol, popular among white left-wing activists.

      i.e. Democrats

      https://medium.com/@mtracey/two-months-since-the-riots-and-still-no-national-conversation-12a7e3e4e006

      • Interesting read…. Lots of assumptions in there. Just like just because rioting occurred in predominately non white areas doesn’t mean they were non white rioters its just as easy to understand that Just because White people riot in the street and paint Anarchist symbols all over the place does not mean they are left wing anarchists. Ever heard of a false flag… A number of right wing hate groups were caught doing this.

        The rioting started out after protest over an event but that does not mean the protestors where the rioters either…

        • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

          Interesting read…. Lots of assumptions in there. Just like just because rioting occurred in predominately non white areas doesn’t mean they were non white rioters its just as easy to understand that Just because White people riot in the street and paint

          There have been plenty of white arrests – Portland one of the continual epicenter of these ‘protests’ is overwhelmingly white. You are correct, it is a multicultural affair though as much of the rioting and looting are criminal gang related African Americans, bringing shame to the black community.

          Anarchist symbols all over the place does not mean they are left wing anarchists. Ever heard of a false flag…

          As someone who is familiar with all sorts of right wing conspiracy theories, yes I have.

          A number of right wing hate groups were caught doing this.

          True – there are rumors of one skin head being involved in a Minnesota riot, that the media made a big thing about. But the overwhelming majority of those ‘white people’ arrested have been affiliated with Antifa, who are the progressive lefts shock troops.

          The media and all the supposed enlightened progressives gutlessly pander to them. They ALL conveniently turn a blind eye to and fail to condemn and condemn and condemn them, because Antifa supposedly oppose “Naz!s” whose greatest sole success in the past 4 years has been to reverse over a fat chick – as opposed to burning the heart out of all major US cities and destroying millions of lives and livelihoods.

          The rioting started out after protest over an event but that does not mean the protestors where the rioters either…

          Speaking of military tactics – have you ever heard of running cover?

          The popular narrative as told by the mainstream media is FALSE.

          https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1293391032529219584

          • True – there are rumors of one skin head being involved in a Minnesota riot, that the media made a big thing about. But the overwhelming majority of those ‘white people’ arrested have been affiliated with Antifa, who are the progressive lefts shock troops.

            Nah, not just rumours….

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/
            or does that not count because its “mainstream” media

            maybe this one….

            https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/
            or was that written by leftisists….

            https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-03/prosecutors-3-men-plotted-to-terrorize-vegas-protests
            Oh.. again “mainstream”

            https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article243553662.html

            Plenty of examples and easy to find if you want to actually look…. but oh, yeah cover story…

            The media and all the supposed enlightened progressives gutlessly pander to them. They ALL conveniently turn a blind eye to and fail to condemn and condemn and condemn them, because Antifa supposedly oppose “Naz!s” whose greatest sole success in the past 4 years has been to reverse over a fat chick – as opposed to burning the heart out of all major US cities and destroying millions of lives and livelihoods.

            Funny how you can claim one thing is a rumour and yet in the next sentence claim with certainty that all the rioters were Antifa and left wing…. You can no more backup that assertion than the one that there was a rumour…

            The popular narrative as told by the mainstream media is FALSE.

            Which narrative is that one? cos the majority of the media I have seen had been saying it was Antifa, and Non Whites protesting…. now the evidence has come out that it was actually Hate groups stirring up trouble.

            https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1293391032529219584

            What was that proving, A video of a someone asking the BLM protesters to stop… All it proved was someone asked them to stop protesting in their area… and they did….. as proven by the follow up tweets…

            Speaking of military tactics – have you ever heard of running cover?

            Interesting, I thought I had but felt I should research it so I didnt look like a fool…
            Couldnt find any reference to it anywhere… Even the huge Wikipedia reference on military strategy and tactics doesnt have any mention of it.
            Must be one of those incredibly powerful military doctrines they wont allow anyone to publish information about.

            But if your referring to the tactic of running a cover story to garner support of a part of the population and turn them against the other…yeah I am familiar with it, but How would you know which story is the cover story…. the one where the BLM protests are a front for Antifa and they are behind the rioting and destroying everything…. or the one where The right wing extremists are infiltrating the protests and rioting to blame the BLM protestors….. unless Your the one running the cover story, how would you know..

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            True “Running Cover” is more of a sporting tactic – confusing my football with military, but then football has often been compared to unarmed combat,

            So ‘umbrella man’ in Minnesota who has never been arrested or positively identified, because he was all covered up apart from being dressed in Antifa black, was definately a right wing agitator, because other “peaceful protesters” said he was.
            🤔
            But then there were the THREE individuals with right wing connections plotting to do something in Las Vegas…. wow, you have me convinced now.

            There is nothing those right wing facists will do in order to run a ‘false flag’ operation to convince the world it was leftists, including dying their hair pink, blue and green and cutting their peckers or boobs off to ensure that no one could mistake them for Antifa.

            Guess the THREE HUNDRED people who have been arrested for Federal crimes and been shown to have Antifa affiliations were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

    • +1 Robotsensei

      The blowhards here are all gonna get their little tushies spanked soon enough. Then they’ll all moan and whinge that it was all rigged.

    • Just because trump is useless doesn’t mean he will be blamed. Health is a state/local issue over there from what I gather. The real question is will the Dems wokeness bring out the GOP voters while lacking the Obama appeal of yesteryear. Funny how the woke crowd don’t worship the first woman to run for VP!

    • Surprisingly few are worried about dying from “just the flu, bro” here in the USA. Mix in Biden’s obvious decline, a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris. Unless the Dems replace Biden prior to the election, they have a HUGE uphill battle. Remember, like with the show of the (generally crappy) second stimulus by Trump this week, he has the bully pulpit and the Dems are. not. leading (not that Trump really is either, but he’s at least making noises that many are lapping up).

      Voter turnout for Biden will be low. Low enough to loose? I think so, but I could be wrong.

  9. Wework Is broke

    Put yourself in the shoes of a Latino American. When Biden effectively indicated that his VP was going to be an African American female, Latino Americans should right ask “are latinos not good enough”? When you commit your choice of VP based on race and gender, you are by definition excluding all others who are not of that race and gender. If I was Latino my vote would be sealed for the incumbent.

    • RobotSenseiMEMBER

      So… they instead vote for the white supremacist and his old white bloke VP?

      Logic checks out

      • Francis Awaritefe

        Whataboutism. They can vote for someone else all together or no one at all. Your prejudice is showing through. As for WS … lol.

        • RobotSenseiMEMBER

          *My* prejudice? Hilarious. The old creepy white guy party is losing relevance election after election. They won’t be relevant in a generation.

          • As are globalists wokesters, which is why the orange one became POTUS in the first place. Loony is apparently better than corrupt.

          • Francis Awaritefe

            I knew you would say that. Yes *your* prejudice, not those *others* in the *out* group.

  10. What a surprise – Sleepy Joe picks a black female to be VP.

    This doesn’t help him much – Americans are quite parochial, he’d win California without her. The question is will this get him the black vote more than it loses him votes from other constituencies …

    Will be interesting to see. Don’t count out 45 until after the debates. I think he will mop the floor with dementia added Biden.

    • RobotSenseiMEMBER

      Imagine the panic that will set in Trumpland if Biden holds his own. Trump has literally nothing else going for him.

  11. “given the Californian Senator is more progressive than almost all of her colleagues, save for Bernie Sanders.”

    Interesting, the MSN this morning was fawning over her ‘moderate’ and ‘centrist’ stance and how the ultra progressives will be disappointed?

    Funnily enough MSN also mentioned that she went hard against Biden and publicly backed his sexual assault accuser….. and now she has to front up all smiles for her new boss. Pure politics on display of course but the do as I say not as I do crowd (AKA self anointed progressives) will brush past that lightning fast.

    • Harris is the type that would drop marbles on the stairs to help Status-quo Joe along that much faster. She was mortally wounded by Tulsi, and for good reason. Now she’s all but President?

      Times like these I feel the Dems are trying to throw the election.

  12. he has a solid chance with that choice. Trump has got to beg that he holds onto the economy. That mean no shutdown and pump everything with printed money. Its going to get insane

  13. “The wax doll” Pence (arguably a scarier President than Trump) will melt when he’s anywhere near the heat of Harris. They’re gonna need a mop and bucket to soak him up off the floor after that debate.

  14. Terror Australis

    This thread is a reminder to me of why I only really skim the headlines of MB these days.

  15. I think I should stop reading the comments sections. Well, for articles about US politics or Covid anyway.

  16. “On the periphery it also puts to bed (well for rational people at least, I refer you to the comic above) the concerns over a quite old Biden, since the 55 year old Harris is sharp as a tack.”

    It’s good to see the bar set high.

  17. Mainstream & MainStreet is not going to vote for anarchy, antifa, black lives matter, defund the police, and open borders. The will vote for Trump.

  18. Tis funnie watching some pick the peanuts out of the corn that is this U.S. election.

    Its simples … you have a dyed in the wool GOP corporatist candidate that will say anything, pretend to be friends with those that make him look good to his voter base [fruit fly life cycle], and commit levels of putting your family members in government or setting them up for largess from government like never seen before ….

    The Dems on the other hand are the thirdway corporatist blue dogs fighting for the rights of – what ever you are – to achieve your wildest dreams in the corporatist market place whilst giving a big stink eye to the knuckle dragging Repugs …

    Evang libertarians vs Woke libertarians and in the twain they will never meet unless its about more privatizing and monetizing reality … check the voting records …