CCP’s UQ teaches that Uyghur and Hong Kong resistance is terrorism

We need federal intervention at UQ:

Why would we teach the above yet do this?

Hong Kong nationals wanting to flee China’s security crackdown in the territory would have a fast track to resettlement in Australia through the skilled visa program, under an option cabinet will consider next week.

As Hong Kong police arrested hundreds of protesters under a draconian new law that outlaws acts of subversion, secession, terrorism and colluding with foreign forces, Scott Morrison said Australia was prepared to “step up and provide support” to the territory’s residents who faced difficulties.

A safe haven visa has not been ruled out for fleeing Hong Kong residents but The Australian understands the skilled migrant visa class, which has ground to a halt under coronavirus lockdowns, is the most likely pathway for them to come to Australia.

Time for a royal commission into university links with China. We need to keep pushing back hard, via the AFR:

John Bolton says Australia, the US and other allies need to strengthen their stand against China or risk becoming little more than vassal states of Beijing.

“This is exactly the time to stand up to them … they’re behaving like bullies,” US President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser said in an interview with The Australian Financial Review.

“If this is the way China behaves now, how will it behave if its position becomes even stronger?”

I don’t agree with John Bolton on much but this is exactly right.

David Llewellyn-Smith

Comments

  1. Shows that it should not just be up to the Attorney General to progress these suspicions up to investigations by AFP but more appropriately ASIO.

  2. Ronin8317MEMBER

    ECON3820 at UQ is labelled ‘Understanding China’. It should be renamed to ‘Reading Chinese Propaganda’.

    • It would actually be fun to take that course and call out all the BS.
      Only problem of course being expelled from the university and subsequently ‘disappeared’.

  3. Luca BiasonMEMBER

    Not so long ago a “prominent” China “expert” in Australia expressed his view during an ABC Australian Story re Xinjiang, and the opening statement was:

    “China DID have a terrorism problem, and that IS correct. I think it’s important we actually ACKNOWLEDGE that. China WAS actually SUFFERING a terrorism problem”.

    I am capitalising his choice of words, better people can tell me whether they have ever come across those words in similar narratives.

    Looking forward to the exact replica of this statement in mid-2021, when asked about Honk Kong.

    • Are you so used to academics lying that when one tells the truth, you’re shocked? Xinjiang did have some appalling terrorist incidents. That doesn’t change just because China is doing horrible things there now.

      • Luca BiasonMEMBER

        Oh you mean like the one in 2008 prior to the Olympics when there was widespread repression in Urumqi on the basis that the CCP had foiled a plot by Uyghur militants planning to shoot down a plane, and blah dee blah, without providing a breadcrumb of evidence, not even a picture of the equipment on their state media?

          • Luca BiasonMEMBER

            Nah you can leave your soundbites re apologists for other threads. are those criminal acts? of course. innocent people died? yes. are they endorsed? no. where those actions triggered by the sanitisation of Xinjiang? yes. is it terrorism? the jury is still out, some commentators are blindsided by the Islamic faith of the perpetrators more then else. Has China abused the ‘terrorism’ narrative in the Xinjiang context? yes. has China borrowed said narrative from the West post 9/11? yes. Is there evidence to the extent of Xinjiang ‘terrorism’ to back up the claims made by China in support of their actions in Xinjiang? no.

          • Yeah, typical, same stuff I heard every time a Palestinian blew up a bus full of Israelis, same stuff I’m hearing every time a BLM protester shoots a cop, always will be and forever until you start having massacres on the street you live on, then you’ll belatedly start opposing terrorism.

          • Luca BiasonMEMBER

            Oh an by the way, I am sure you recall how the CCP labelled as ‘terrorists’ also the Tibetan monks fighting to protect their own heritage – in the lead up to the Olympics. same dynamics as above.

            Where’s Tibet now and what happened to it? Xinjiang is along the same path.

          • Luca BiasonMEMBER

            I had them at home with the Red Brigades, no need to be educated. maybe best for you to entertain more thoughts around cause and effect links in context, rather then pub counter analysis

          • Yeah it really disappointed me that, one time, versus the many times in the case of Xinjiang, Tibetans resorted to just outright murdering people on the street.

            Still a terrorist incident no matter how much I sympathise.

            Yes “cause and effect” the old faithful that everyone has always gone to including Osama himself.

    • Ronin8317MEMBER

      ‘Terrorism’ is a loaded word, a bit like ‘evil’. You can negotiate with ‘Rebels’ and ‘Insurgents’, but you can’t negotiate with ‘terrorists’.

      The turning point for Chinese government attitude toward the Uyghur is the 2014 Kunming attack. Incidents inside Xinjiang can be tolerated, but the random killing of people in the Kunming railway station crosses the ‘red line’, and the attack also destroyed whatever sympathy the Han Chinese may have for the Uyghurs. The aim of the attack is to incite heavy handed retaliation from the Chinese government, but the attackers simply could not have imagine what the Chinese government is capable of. It’s a slow process of cultural genocide.

      Right now, the ‘re-education camp’ is temporary. If another incident like Kunming or Ürümqi riots occur, the camp will become permanent.

      • PaperRooDogMEMBER

        Agree. Though China’s actions have almost certainly made another incident more likely as a whole generation has now been motivated by oppression.

    • PaperRooDogMEMBER

      True though we have one here as well. Are you suggesting we should lock up a millions of Muslims, bug thier phones, send red necks to live in theri houses (enjoy the same bed as the wife, in some cases, install facial ID, camera’s etc in areas with high numbers of Muslims etc etc? No we don’t need to anymore than China needed to, it was a small terrorist problem by China standards (of their own making in part)

  4. Hmm, let’s see:
    1 crappy Chinese made, plastic-looking Aircraft Carrier VS 3 NUCLEAR US aircraft carriers, with 7 more in reserve
    Let’s see how that goes for these CCP terrorists.
    Good luck Winnie!

    • PaperRooDogMEMBER

      They have some pretty useful missiles by most acounts, so it’ll be messy.

  5. GunnamattaMEMBER

    As Hong Kong police arrested hundreds of protesters under a draconian new law that outlaws acts of subversion, secession, terrorism and colluding with foreign forces, Scott Morrison said Australia was prepared to “step up and provide support” to the territory’s residents who faced difficulties.

    A safe haven visa has not been ruled out for fleeing Hong Kong residents but The Australian understands the skilled migrant visa class, which has ground to a halt under coronavirus lockdowns, is the most likely pathway for them to come to Australia.

    The government has had discussions with the UK in which the number of refugees, if things get out of hand in Hong Kong, being broached was circa 600k.
    The UK is looking at 3 million passport holders, and they expect a deluge of legit applications for those and a big number of straight out ‘runners’ from China who may be difficult to turn away.

    That equals just over 2 years worth of Australian NOM we are looking at.

    Our government knows they have lost a years worth and that there is mounting anger at immigration volumes.

    Would they baulk at taking on a pretty large single body of people, with good links to and in Australia already, on ‘Humanitarian’ grounds, with potentially a nice economic filip – for house prices at least – if any significant chunk of their capital can flee with them, and skills etc? Particularly if that keeps numbers up and gives them time for some sort of immigration review which they could flag ahead of the next election

    The downside would presumably be the culling of commodity exports to China, and a serious need to spend on Defence.

    • adelaide_economistMEMBER

      We’re pretty good at making terrible trade offs. For example, a few hundred million in international student fees at strong risk of another hundred billion dollar shutdown due to corona virus.

    • Stormy Waters

      If you start from the premise that immigration will be ramped no matter what, then bringing in a large number of ex-HK people is probably the best possible outcome. To be clear, lower immigration would be best. However, having a large contingent of ex-HK citizens, with skills/capital and an enduring hatred of the CCP would act as an excellent counterbalance to existing mainland communities and CCP influence networks. We should especially try to co-opt key individuals into Australia’s security apparatus with a mandate to destroy the United Front/CCP disaspora influence operations.

      • “and an enduring hatred of the CCP would act as an excellent counterbalance to existing mainland communities and CCP influence networks.”

        Agreed, good point.

    • This is the real reason why we care about human rights in China and pretty much nowhere else especially Indonesia/West Papua or Yemen etc. Nobody wants to bring in 3 million West Papuans or Yemenis. It’s manufacturing consent for yet more mass immigration.

      We don’t need to spend on defence either but this does help to give us the excuse to do so.

      I can’t believe anyone falls for this.

  6. Australia opened its heart and borders to the students facing persecution and fleeing the tiananmen massacre. It should do so again for the patriotic hard working people of HK who no longer have a home of their own. If history is a guide, these industrious peoples will more than pay back political safe harbour through hard work, contributing to the tax base and entrepreneurial activity and guarding democracy’s fragile flame.

    • WGA etc – Is that irony or sarcasm?

      Have you ever lived or been to Hong Kong?

      No Chinese in Hong Kong has ever had democracy.
      Under the British administration from day 1 in the 1800’s right up to the handover.
      “There is no point in giving the Chinese voting rights or asking them to participate in democracy, they don’t understand it, and even if they did it’s not in their nature”.
      British Governor of Hong Kong.

      The Hong Kong judiciary – rated as the most corrupt in Asia. Hong Kong was a place Britain sent their disgraced judges and corrupt police to.
      After handover, the Hong Kong criminal elite takeover of the HK judiciary and police made it totally corrupt.

      That is what the Hong Kong troubles are all about – the Hong Kong criminal class fearing Chinese law being imposed and their extradition to China.

      Fact 1.Hong Kong has long been an island colony run by a British administrator & a Chinese criminal elite (the tycoons), and then after handover by these criminal elites.

      Fact 2. The Hong Kong population, naturally highly racist Han Chinese, were cultivated by this Hong Kong criminal class to be even more exclusionary and racist hatred to Mainland Chinese. (Go read their media)

      Fact 3. Any Hong Kong Chinese with breeding, education and skills got a 2nd passport or foreign residency visa decades ago. As did the Hong Kong criminal elite.

      Fact 4. When the western world moved their plants, business and HQ to mainland China years ago, Hong Kong became a stagnant backwater a relic of the past like Macau.
      Hong Kong used to be 14% of china’s gdp now its 1%.

      Fact 5. The HK criminal elite and the (further corrupted) Chinese Hong Kong judiciary totally destroyed Hong Kong after the British left.
      The tycoons and rich elite converted public housing into speculative private property resulting in mass homeless.
      They moved their factories and operations to mainland China also. Washed or laundered their dirty money overseas.
      They sold out Hong Kong.

      Fact 6. Hong Kong has by far the highest poverty rate in China – and still evades minimum wage and labor laws staffed in China. 1.8 million people in Hong Kong live in abject filthy poverty, illiterate, useless, unemployable.

      And so the question is this:
      What is left in Hong Kong that hasn’t already got a passport or PR stamp to some western country?

      👉Toothless old ex factory workers, beggars, misfits, petty criminals, end of life vice workers & their useless now adult spawn who are orchestrated by the Hong Kong criminal elite to riot in the streets ‘protesting a democracy’ they never had and wouldn’t understand or if it was given to them.

      Their misfit youth (most are actually mature adults over 25 or 30) are only called ‘students’ because thats the Chinese way when they are unemployable, there are no jobs and they have no prospects of a Hong Kong ever being what it was.
      They have no housing because the Hong Kong criminal elite stole it.
      They have no jobs because their Hong Kong criminal elite debased and destroyed Hong Kong as a manufacturing and trade centre (and so the western world moved their operations to mainland China).

      -/-

      Do we really want the bottom of the barrel unskilled old users and highly racist xenophobic Hong Kong Chinese in Australia? Bringing their cultivated racism and hatred of everyone else.

      We already have their parasite & criminal elite here (the ones who couldn’t get into Canada or the UK).

      What would be the skill category’ for old useless factory workers, stall holders, cleaners, most who are 2nd generation peasants…
      And all with one common attribute.
      They were all too stupid or unskilled to ever be able to secure a western passport or residency stamp in the last 23 years.

      And that’s what’s left.
      The misfits useless and the stupids.

      Why would we want this rubbish?
      They have no money of their own, they will just be mules for the Chinese foreign criminal syndicates to launder in even more dirty money.

      They won’t assimilate, they will just expand the Chinese ghettos here as a recreation of their Hong Kong slums.
      They will be a health care & welfare burden.

      And they certainly won’t be supports of democracy or western civil and moral values.

      They won’t even understand what that is.

      Police bribes in criminal and civil law & shopping bags of cash for the politicians is the Hong Kong way.

  7. “We need federal intervention at UQ:”

    Sorry, Dan Tehan has his hands full tripling the cost of arts degrees. He can only be expected to do one thing at a time.

  8. frag outMEMBER

    I’m wondering if this could be a problem with a solution that won’t be publicised given sensitivities & how this could impair the value of international students; surely certain parts on both sides may not be appreciating the volume and reach of Drew’s commentary.

  9. robert2013MEMBER

    I think we’ll all be labelled terrorists for posting on MB.

    “Macrobusiness is a known far right site that promotes conspiracy theories and serves as an organising point for radicals to plan and excute terrorism.” The Australian, 2022.