A message from inside Melbourne’s new quarantine zone

Yeh, I have been locked down again.

I’m not happy about it. My suburb has no virus and is on the distant periphery of the breakout zone while other suburbs much closer are not locked down because the useless Manchurian Dan used postcodes instead of suburbs to demarcate the quarantine.

But that’s OK. I’ll take it for the team. This is the new reality and we Doggy supporters won’t be the last.

All I ask in return is that this utter bullshit stops:

Infection control breaches by ­security contractors hired by the Andrews government to manage Victoria’s hotel quarantine regime have fuelled a second wave of coronavirus outbreaks that have forced a four-week shutdown of 37 suburbs in Melbourne’s north and west.

Premier Daniel Andrews ­announced a judicial inquiry into the cluster of infections from staff at quarantine hotels who breached infection control protocols and have been linked to almost 50 COVID-19 cases.

It has been repeatedly illustrated in the course of the pandemic that efforts to contain people with the virus are fraught with danger. It couldn’t be contained on isolated ships. It has skipped closed land borders. Hotels are as useful as Swiss cheese. It even manages from time-to-time to mysteriously leap across great oceans. Not to mention that it’s odds-on that it escaped from level five bio-containment in a Chinese lab in the first place.

That’s because the virus can go wherever a person can, and people cannot be trusted. It’s that simple.

So, my message for authorities from inside the Melbourne quarantine zone is this: DO NOT OPEN THE BORDERS TO INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS, TEMPORARY WORKERS OR WOULD-BE MIGRANTS UNTIL THE PANDEMIC PASSES.

If we can’t handle a few dozen returning Australians without major outbreaks and lockdowns, how are we going to handle hundreds of thousands of foreigners from virus saturation nations that have no investment in protecting the country?

The answer is obvious. We will fail to do so opening the borders is an asymmetric bet with the economy that has much greater downside risks that it does upside gains and it is not fair on Aussies to make the sacrifice only to have it blown away by a greedy few.

Now, back to the macrame.

David Llewellyn-Smith
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  1. Torchwood1979

    Lockdown Australia FTW. Not according to the Virus Chancellor of the uni I work at. International students are a birthright for all Aussie universities apparently and the government makes the rules and they should stump up some $$$$ with charter flights and quarantine.

    • What I don’t understand is…. If the uni’s are so clever and their courses are so desirable, why can’t they be delivering that sh*t online to their full-fee paying international students, regardless of where in the world they are?

      (Oh that’s right, it’s not really about getting an education now, is it?

      • Torchwood1979

        Yep, it’s about Visas, as MB has well documented 🙁

        Virus Chancellor was very quick to say that the government makes the rules, with the implication that said rules should be made in favour of universities and to hell with the broader consequences.

      • Hill Billy 55MEMBER

        Uni my wife works at is fully on line next semester, but also offering bums on seats. What is the use of someone if I can’t see them? Asking for a friend.

      • Forrest GumpMEMBER


        nothing to do with Education.
        Ita ll about a population ponzi masked as Education

        The only way to pump the housing bubble, raise GDP and dilute wages of the permanent inhabitants of the land is to flood the suburbs with cheap labor masked as students.

        • Have you seen universities these days. They are like mini cities. They need students on campus to pay rent on accommodation and for the shops and cafes to pay rent for leases. They are just landlords peddling snake oil education certificates to lure students in who then pay for ancillary costs on top.

          • Yes very good point. The whole Uni Education thing has been hijacked by profiteers. They make bullsh!t up about exports & all that crap. Its all about kids in an area spending money on sh1t. If it was an export they could run the whole fu$%ing thing on-line from anywhere. IT IS NOT AN EXPORT! Its a rentier fraud of the highest order. What is the cost to Aus economy for what these leach Uni’s have done? How are we going to fix it? The Uni system is 3rd in the Conga line of all the arse hat rentiers that dominate everything in this country.

      • McPaddyMEMBER

        Very good point. If a third of Aussies can work from home for over 3 months, why can’t unis manage their very paltry (in many cases) lecture and tutorial schedule entirely online? That would even prepare students for a future of white collar work. It’s all such an obvious pile of crap.

      • billygoatMEMBER

        Yes just like every other Australian born & bred student enrolling in cert 4 for everything.$10k full fee in once tafe offered courses now privatised.
        Still same $ but only online classes. Residents have to do it so why bring in students to sit in lecture halls in Carlton and infect the city of Melbourne and its broader populace.
        Truth be told I don’t believe to COVID hype but if you’re (give, science & media) gonna spill a yarn bigger than war of the worlds at least get story straight:))) lolololo

  2. migtronixMEMBER

    I want to know why we had the worst outcome with the harshest restrictions and the most patronising population and the most fines issued!!!

  3. Sad news for our Mexican brothers and sisters. We promise not to get too cocky north of the border because as you say, this canny virus can re-emerge in the blink of an eye. As a former family host to international students, I agree with you on restricting their entry. To hell with the economic fallout. Let the tertiary sector go back to teaching instead of investing in realestate and let those businesses that can only survive by exploiting these students and paying them slave wages, go bust!

    • I can tell you if it wasn’t for the unis there wouldn’t be any construction in the Adelaide CBD. They own all (well nearly all) of North Terrace. Just amazing. To be fair, some of the stuff built isn’t half bad to my eye but you gotta wonder what business they are in.

  4. Torchwood1979

    Yep, it’s about Visas, as MB has well documented 🙁

    Virus Chancellor was very quick to say that the government makes the rules, with the implication that said rules should be made in favour of universities and to hell with the broader consequences.

  5. truthisfashionable

    I’m sure all your neighbours in those adjacent suburbs will do the right thing during school holidays and not head out to the regions and risk spreading it to those locals. That would be a horrible outcome, people might notice that regional healthcare is severely underfunded and might want something done about it (and that would be expensive without all the rivers of stamp duty gold flowing).

  6. rob barrattMEMBER

    Ah yes, a judicial inquiry into the cluster of infections from staff at quarantine hotels.
    A fine opportunty for another spike… Caused by the staff of course. The lawyers travel in by Bentley..

      • Commonly used within the Lebanese community.

        Ulleh is NOT greek, it’s actually in a Lebanese Arabic accent, it is most definently NOT just a random saying. it’s actually a slang way of saying “you” equivilent to “man” in english. In the Iraqi Arabic accent it’s actually pronounced “willeh” or “willak (short “lak”). It’s mildly offensive to elders or people of a respectable status within the community.

        If you ever ventured further west than Leichardt or St Peters, Harry you’d know this. 🙂

        • Charles MartinMEMBER

          hahaha, go to Bankstown and Punchbowl, when the traffic noise subsides distant ullehs can reach you as they ride on a summer breeze.

      • blacktwin997MEMBER

        Wasn’t ‘uleh’ the sound made by the Martians in War Of The Worlds? And weren’t they finally snookered by microorganisms too? Where do the similarities end?

  7. What’s to stop people from these hot spots escaping to stay with family in other suburbs so they don’t face lockdown? Nothing…virus says game on.

  8. Stewie GriffinMEMBER

    That’s because the virus can go wherever a person can, and people cannot be trusted. It’s that simple.

    Well who would have ever thought that it pays to live in a HIGH TRUST society?

    Do they have this problem in Japan, Korea or Taiwan? How about even QLD?

    Say it after me “We’re all in this together!”

    • Grits teeth.

      “We are one, but we are many
      And from all the lands on earth we come
      We’ll share a dream and….

      Ahhh, fck that noise. Diversity is not our strength.

      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        Diversity is THEIR strength.

        Word magic is getting people to believe the opposite meaning of the word is the truth…. it has been around for millennia.

        Like a written language with no vowels – the same spelling can have several completely different meanings, with the actual meaning of the word dependent on the context that it is used and the training that the interlocutor has undertaken.

        Knowledge is power, so words are used to hide the knowledge.

    • Ronin8317MEMBER

      They have a similar problem in Japan and South Korea, but not in Taiwan though. The second wave in Japan and South Korea is linked to night clubs. People who work in those industry have a high mistrust of government and authorities.

      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        Not arguing that any society doesn’t have low trust elements, the issue is the incidence and the distribution of such behaviours on a per Capita basis – which is something most BLM supporters (and many economists and politicians selectively) don’t understand.

        Are the outbreaks in Melbourne spread across the less salubrious suburbs? I suppose H&H has noted and pondered upon the presence of massage parlors in his previous pontifications, so perhaps it is the same distribution in Australia as in Japan and Korea – then again, maybe it is a different section of the community where it is spreading?

        Either way, as noted – people aren’t to be trusted, or on a more refined basis, some people aren’t to be trusted relative to the rest of the population.

  9. Locking up a dinkum Doggies fan with an echt Welsh name? It’s too much really.

    In purely game-theoretic terms, I still reckon Bad Scotty will fling open the borders relatively early on, because the GDP number will demand no less. Would he have second thoughts, if his bestie in America went down?

  10. Ronald Stewson

    What if the pandemic never stops? What if it just becomes a seasonal thing? Australia will have to be in lockdown forever, we’d be all what 10% poorer? This would be the average, the planned retirements after decades of hard work from retirees would be ruined if you de-average.

    I think Macrobusiness is championing this view as it will hurt Australian dollar and housing in the longterm, perhaps in alignment with their fund.

    • Arthur Schopenhauer

      There is an uncontrolled experiment on the other side of the Pacific that will demonstrate what will happen if there is no lockdown.

      • I think they also performed that experiment in the years 1918 – 1920.
        So it will interesting to see if the result is roughly the same.
        I guess the good news is the 1918 experiment did show that in some sense a pandemic will eventually end with relatively low control measures and no vaccine. However, there may be other disadvantages/ costs before you reach that outcome.

  11. kiwikarynMEMBER

    I heard Reusa was moonlighting as a security guard and couldnt resist the attractions of certain hotel guests. Take from that what you will, wink wink


    But they will, it’ll be done slowly at first, sneakily … because the unholy alliance between the progressives and the neoliberals means population ponzi is the only ideology/economic ideology they know. Traitors.

  13. Hadron CollisionMEMBER

    My mum has two friends who are reporters for the ABC

    As soon as she mentions Chinese students and closed borders she gets “we must be careful not to blame a race”

    Anyway, farq Vicco, looking fwd to hearing up the PCM and Bruce to QLD

  14. So are the rumours true……..? Said security guards had a bit of extra work to do with residents of lock down hotel & then went home to their family communities in North West South East Keilor…? LOL. So honourable if the case. Good rumour, fits the mantra & question of how the F*@k did this happen.

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