China is right. A WHO inquiry is a “joke”

From News:

China has slammed claims it backed down and Australia had a victory over the probe into COVID-19 as a “joke”.

In the latest diplomatic war of words between the two nations, the Chinese embassy has lashed out at claims it has backed down over the investigation under international pressure.

“The draft resolution on COVID-19 to be adopted by the World Health Assembly (WHA) is totally different from Australia’s proposal of an independent review,” a spokesman said.

“A close look at the draft itself can easily come to such a conclusion.

“All those who know the consultation process that led to the resolution understand this.

“To claim the WHA’s resolution is a vindication of Australia’s call is nothing but a joke.”

US President Donald Trump has backed Australia’s push for a World Health Organisation (WHO) probe into the origins of the COVID-19 outbreak.

“We are with them,” he said as he retweeted an SBS News tweet on the growing global support for Australia’s bid for an inquiry.

Australia and the European Union’s motion demands an independent inquiry into the Chinese origin of COVID-19 “at the earliest appropriate moment”.

Quite right. This is neither new nor a concession by China. Via SCMP a week ago:

China says it supports World Health Organisation efforts to investigate the origin of  the Covid-19 pandemic, but rejects any “presumption of guilt”, after the global body said it was talking to Beijing about sending another delegation to the country.

…Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist with the WHO, on Wednesday said the agency was in discussion with China about examining potential animal origins of the coronavirus.

“There is discussion with our counterparts in China for a further mission, which would be more academic in focus and really focus on looking at what happened at the beginning in terms of the exposures with different animals, so that we can look to have an approach to find the zoonotic source,” she said.

That’s not overly helpful is it? We already know that the WHO is compromised by Chinese funding by its performance throughout the pandemic. What kind of investigation sets such parameters before we even begin? What if it did come from a lab as new Australian research suggests, again, today:

A scientific study in Austria has found that SARS-CoV-2, the coronavirus that has led to a pandemic, was likely created in a lab, barring some “remarkable coincidence” that led to the virus naturally evolving to be optimised to attack human cells.

The study was led by Nikolai Petrovsky, a vaccine researcher at Flinders University. The scientists in his team discovered that the coronavirus is optimized for penetration into human cells, rather than animal cells, which means that the theory that it emerged from an animal market and jumped to humans naturally is unlikely.

Lifesite News reports that the scientists “used a version of the novel coronavirus collected in the earliest days of the outbreak and applied computer models to test its capacity to bind to certain cell receptor enzymes, called “ACE2,” that allow the virus to infect human and animal cells to varying degrees of efficacy.”

“They found that “the novel coronavirus most powerfully binds with human ACE2, and with variously lesser degrees of effectiveness with animal versions of the receptor.”

The authors believe this means that the virus “became specialized for human cell penetration by living previously in human cells, quite possibly in a laboratory.”

The Study notes that “a virus would be expected to have highest affinity for the receptor in its original host species, e.g. bat, with a lower initial binding affinity for the receptor of any new host, e.g. humans. However, in this case, the affinity of SARS-CoV-2 is higher for humans than for the putative original host species, bats, or for any potential intermediary host species.”

It continues, noting that a “possibility which still cannot be excluded is that SARSCoV-2 was created by a recombination event that occurred inadvertently or consciously in a laboratory handling coronaviruses, with the new virus then accidentally released into the local human population.”

Dr Petrovsky added in a statement that, rather than being rapidly genetically spliced and mutated, the virus shows signs of being ‘cultured’ to evolve over time.

“Our and other analyses of the genomic sequence of the virus do not reveal any artificial gene inserts that would be the hallmark of a gene jockey, genetic engineers who manipulate or even create viruses by splicing in artificial inserts into their genome.” Petrovsky said.

“These are generally easily recognisable and hence clear signatures of human intervention in the creation of a virus. The fact that these artificial inserts are not present has been interpreted by some to mean this virus is not the result of human manipulation.” he added.

“However, this logic is incorrect as there are other ways in which humans can manipulate viruses and that is caused by natural selection,” he continued, adding that “you can force [a] bat virus to adapt to infect human cells via mutations in its spike protein,” after culturing it for a few years.

“The result of these experiments, according to the doctor, would be “a virus that is highly virulent in humans but is sufficiently different that it no longer resembles the original bat virus.”

De Spegel was clear about the problems few weeks ago:

At the same time, hardly anyone in the West still doubts that the pandemic could have been contained better if China had not slowed down the flow of information. According to the BND [German intelligence], China has even urged the World Health Organization to delay a global warning. On January 21, China’s head of state Xi Jinping during a phone call with WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus asked to withhold information about a person-to-person transmission and to postpone a pandemic warning. The WHO was silent for a week. The BND’s verdict is harsh: at least four, if not six, weeks have been lost in Beijing’s information policy in the fight against the virus.

Nevertheless, the federal government does not want to escalate the conflict with China, for one reason: Germany needs protective equipment made in China. Since Chancellor Merkel’s call to Xi Jinping, the Beijing Ministry of Commerce has had a permanent contact for these deliveries.

In return, the government demands to be able to present itself as a helper. Beijing expects the recipient country to take public action with every delivery of masks or protective suits, a diplomat reported last week to the foreign policy leaders of the parliamentary groups in the Bundestag. Some European governments would have taken part in that.

The WHO is demonstrably incapable of conducting an independent inquiry, not least because it should cover its own corruption and failure.

Australia has won nothing but a few tariffs and anger in Bejing.

David Llewellyn-Smith

Comments

  1. Sir Humphrey. “A basic rule of government is never look into anything you don’t have to, and never set up an inquiry unless you know in advance what its findings will be.”

  2. graphicMEMBER

    “Australia has won nothing but a few tariffs and anger in Bejing.”

    And Australia didn’t see this coming at all? Australia is way out of its league.

    • What a shame that people can’t divorce their dislike of Trump (I’m no fan) from a letter written by someone in his administration (probably a public servant). There are multiple and very reasonable concerns in this letter – in fact I can’t see what would be disputed? The only way that this will be properly investigated is if there is a cost to WHO in not doing so.

      One of the reasons is that with Tedros having a political affiliation with the Ethiopian Peoples Revolutionary Democratic Front:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_People%27s_Revolutionary_Democratic_Front

      this comes with a history of drawing economic (and I dare say ideological) links with China.

      One of the key issues is asking what the hell a politically aligned medical researcher is doing heading up WHO to begin with? This is flat out crazy as how is impartiality maintained if you are dragging this sort of political baggage behind you?

  3. To give Andrew Bolt credit where it’s due, he’s already called this for what it is…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEKmauQnIo

    Comforting to know our “strategic partners” are more than happy to mock us from within our own country.

    Nice insight into what’s going to go down in this country if we ever try to move against China on something really serious.

  4. The BystanderMEMBER

    I’m skeptical of Summit News given it’s run by Paul Joseph “Di-poh-lay” Watson, who offers laughable ‘criticism’ of climate change science. Perhaps there’s something to it, but I’m taking the Occam’s Razor approach to this until there’s something more substantial to this claim

      • And is yet to be peer reviewed.

        I searched a few claims in the copy pasta and couldn’t find them in the paper. The discussion section is a lot softer than the article makes it out to be. Looking through the letter in Nature in 2005 that is linked to in the article chain I can’t see how they derived their claim about Wuhan labs. It may be true or it may be a case of a poor reading of science by a journalist/blogger.

        • Yes, it needs peer review. It was only released on the 6th of May.

          I ignored the articles entirely and read the full Discussion part of the paper itself.

    • PolarBearMEMBER

      HnH scraping the bottom of the sauce barrel again?! I’m sympathetic though. If I was a betting man I’d put money on accidental lab release at the moment. The Clive Hamilton interview on Skye was very interesting.

      • The study itself – not yet peer reviewed, only released a few weeks ago – states that the virus is more effective at infecting human cells than any other animal cell they studied. It went on to explain why this was a highly unusual finding and the implications of same.

    • DominicMEMBER

      A-ha. So because you don’t agree with one particular stance that someone takes, that instantly discredits every other position they take on an issue?

      That’s normally the sign of someone who has adopted the ideological position of another person and is incapable of independent thought. Not to worry — good thing this blog is largely anonymous. You can hide your shame. 😉

  5. The ChiComm gangsters have infected WHO, just like their bat flu has infected, maimed and killed people and all economies around the world. Australia is at least not cowering or bowing and scrapping towards these sh!ts at the moment.

    • DominicMEMBER

      Why not? Every supra-national organisation is worse than useless. Staffed by retards and funded by long-suffering taxpayers.

      What a farcking jolly that is.

        • Luca BiasonMEMBER

          am I supposed to pay any attention to what you are saying, when you equate my concern for climate change as being a science denier? what are you waffling about? Do you really think this matter is making greater damage to that of a sustained series of diverse catastrophic event driven by climate change? And I am the science denier? this is a drop in the ocean in comparison.

          • I called you a sciences denier because you read the above article but didn’t really believe it. Because if you did believe it and understand what that means then you would come to the conclusion that there is a much bigger and imedate threat than climate change.
            I know what I just said is sacreligous

    • Jumping jack flash

      Consider that SARS2 is supposedly a “winter virus”, and climate change is all about the earth getting warmer…

      While I don’t subscribe to any particular newsletter regarding climate change, I do believe that humans could become far more self-sufficient, and this would naturally reduce waste and pollution.

      One of the problems is that the necessity of taking on enormous debt mountains locks us in to around 30 years of status quo, and self-sufficiency requires time and effort – the two things most people give up when they have to take on the necessary mountains of debt.

      • DominicMEMBER

        Yes, but what if the climate change ‘science’ is wrong and we’re actually headed into a mini ice-age? All those poor people who emigrated to Tassie when they should’ve been buying property-mate in Nth QLD! Oh, how we lol’d.

        • DominicMEMBER

          You’ve been had.

          Dent has no clue. The dent in Dent’s theory (which is not entirely incorrect) is that endless money printing cannot prop up asset prices. Eventually you print so much money that asset prices can only go up.

  6. Jumping jack flash

    ““However, this logic is incorrect as there are other ways in which humans can manipulate viruses and that is caused by natural selection,” he continued, adding that “you can force [a] bat virus to adapt to infect human cells via mutations in its spike protein,” after culturing it for a few years.

    “The result of these experiments, according to the doctor, would be “a virus that is highly virulent in humans but is sufficiently different that it no longer resembles the original bat virus.””

    And there it is again.

    The test would be to see whether SARS2 can actually still infect and be transmitted between bats, pangolins, penguins, pandas or polar bears, or whatever it is that they say this thing came from. I would say, no, and I would say that scientists can tell pretty quickly whether it would be able to or not.

    • The paper tested its infectivity against cells from various animals including bat cells, and found that it was less infectious for those animals.

      It was most effective when infecting human cells. Almost like it was cultured that way through natural selection (as opposed to cut/paste methods which they found no evidence of).

  7. Now the Yanks need to heavy Tedros who has been useless out of the way. He should have been removed when he thought Mugabe was a good candidate for African Health Ambassador.
    Tedros is the most costly diversity hire in all of history.

    • graphicMEMBER

      Played by Trump. “If a man is dumb, someone is going to get the best of him, so why not you? If you don’t, you’re as dumb as he is” ~ Arnold Rothstein (American racketeer, kingpin of the Jewish mob in New York City).

  8. Force by culturing…

    Perhaps, you can just mess around a bit to accelerate your bat-SARS research and get it printed maybe with only a small amount of assembly required?

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/how-canadian-researchers-reconstituted-extinct-poxvirus-100000-using-mail-order-dna. According to article, in 2017, you are not a domain expert but bio-scientist, 6 months, and 100K (+ the obligatory 12 monkeys) you have smallpox.

    https://www.genscript.com/gene_synthesis.html

    Smallpox- 186,102 base pairs.DNA.
    Covid 19 – ~30,000 base pairs RNA.

    https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/11/21132224/coronavirus-outbreak-genetic-sequencing-viral-dna-treatment-biotechnology

  9. China was always going to try and play the long game on this, pretending to go along with it, all the while destroying evidence in the background and getting their paid media sycophants to shift the focus.
    The counter point is all those idled PhDs in the West who are taking a good hard look at the true origins of this virus, beyond the wet market and bat virus recombining with a pangolin virus nonsense the official China narrative is pushing.

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