Australia’s property values are already falling

Robert Klaric, the founder and CEO of The Property Expert International, was interviewed by Sky News whereby he claimed that “virtually, across the board, we’re seeing around a 10% correction to our market already in the last six-week period”.

Klaric also forecast that we are “likely to see a 10 or 20 per cent reduction in terms of property values”:

“The negotiations have become, certainly, a big difference between the asking price and what they are purchasing the property for”…

“From a buyer’s perspective, they’re thinking well why should I buy now when, potentially, I’ll be able to get the same product a lot cheaper in the next three, six to 12 months”…

“Everyong said to me that the banks are being cautious. So you need to have strong financials, strong employment history to get the funding”. If there’s any grey area, the banks don’t have an apetite for lending at all…

“We are going to see a lot more distressed sales over the next six months”…

“At the moment the market is sinking”

It’s a view shared by SQM Research managing director, Louis Christopher, who noted that “we are very much aware of the real estate industry advising their vendors that the prices achieved in February and January are no longer achievable now:

“I’m hearing anecdotal reports of the banks cutting new lending”…

“It will be very interesting to see when we get to August. Will the banks roll over that moratorium [on mortgage repayments] or will they start calling in loans”…

“These are very difficult days for property investors. We are getting zero net migration. So we are looking at a surplus of stock”.

“On top of that, because short-term arrivals are zilch, it means a whole bunch of Airbnb properties have zero tenants in them right now, so those property owners are looking to move those Airbnb into the long-term leasing market creating an additional oversupply”.

Nothing readers of MB don’t already know.

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  1. Across the board sounds pretty widespread, and, you know, across the board.

    Can they be more specific?

    • Mark StueveMEMBER

      Credit contraction risks rising, areas of life that are highly leveraged.
      Marco cycle – disinflation for now.
      Labour – reduce wages broadly but hidden through wage growth and stagnation in asset prices over the next 2 to 3 years. Incomes higher in real terms in IT and health, but people get over leveraged no matter of household income- usually them in this cycle.
      Place yourself in towards cashflow for a quick burst then a slow grind up.

      • Jumping jack flash

        “…people get over leveraged no matter of household income…”


        After acquiring the essential amounts of debt – ie: as much as can be possibly taken on and then a bit extra, everyone lives on HEM rations. This is regardless of “base” income.

        Its how you make a robust and properly functioning economy these days.

        Its also how you thrust control of the economy into the hands of the banks, and then they can make the economy dance with a flip of the interest rate lever… until you get debt hyper-saturation, like we have now.

        Not even QE can work in this environment, as we will soon see.

        • Hallelujah brother! I often think of the current debt position as debt saturation. Most just don’t seem to see it.

  2. Steve1036MEMBER

    Mmm, my parent’s sold an IP in March but couldn’t settle as the bank pulled finance.

      • Numbers are numbers, and if they’re the wrong numbers, you could be born again Kerry Packer and they still wouldn’t lend to you…at the moment….

    • As a seller right now, settlement risk is real.

      We have another offer on the table for ours which looks a better prospect risk wise (their sale is a big cash payout)…current O&A buyer seems to have some trouble going unconditional on finance…

      Look for shorter settlements to derisk

      • Hoping yours gets through Swampy. Gav’s mum rang the bell at the top selling perfectly pre-Royal Commission, maybe yours will be the top in your region this time!

      • I’m at the end of 4 days of moving due to our rental selling. The offer went in maybe a week before sh1t got real with KungFlu. I was thinking, wow my landlord is a lucky bastard! It took ages for the buyers to get finance approval though…I really thought they’d screwed the pooch.

  3. I spoke to a property developed who had an interesting take on how things would play out – he is heavy in cash and I asked when he will look to purchase. He thinks banks will wait about 3-4 months post the JobKeeper and mortgage holidays ending before they start forcing sales. So Jan/Feb 2021 is when he expects the big drops to start, and for it it to take a few months with the bottom not occurring until 2022. That is when he is planning to start re-purchasing.
    That was a lot of a longer timeline than I had thought of myself, but I can’t really fault his thought process.

    • Yep, I have an RE developer friend who is saying similar – consciously, specifcally, going to look for distress and go in with low-ball offers, mainly from Mum and Dad investors who don’t know what they’re doing and haven’t timed the market properly…yep, that is his specific tactic.

    • BoomToBustMEMBER

      Mrs B2B and I share the same opinion, end of next year roughly as a time to purchase. Which will suit us perfectly at the moment.

      • Jumping jack flash

        My wife is too impatient. I would wait until the end of next year but she wants at the end of this year..

        Which is a shame because I have some IP (not the land kind) I have sold which will be fully paid at the end of next year.

    • Fark longer than I wanted, if we take a 6M lease / rent post sale I was hoping Oct so we could buy before Christmas
      Hopefully though we can flush something out before then and the vendor isn’t looking to 2018 for price guide

    • NoodlesRomanovMEMBER

      Does he have any insight in to when I should put in the shipping container pool I saw on The Block?

    • Bring it under the FHB stamp duty limit and I’d be interested. I don’t think it’s worth anywhere near 900k given the plot the house sits on plus distance from any commutable location.

      • Next to a waterski park. Would the sound of motor boats and squealing kids all day would ruin the peace and quiet?

        • The 899k one is next to a water park? That should make it generally speaking even less valuable than the one that sold in Jan 2020 (see below).

          It might or might not bother me as a buyer. Easy to spend some time there to find out in normal times. Probably dead quiet these days.

          • Just across the river. You’d need to check it out but yes, probably a bit quiet now

    • This place just up the road, with double the land size – and all of it flat and usable, unlike the previous one – sold in Jan 2020 at near the peak of the rebound for $1.8m: semi-rural-nsw-lower portland-129355854

      The obvious questions would be flood plain-related, but it certainly puts the $900k asking price of the first property in perspective.

  4. BoomToBustMEMBER

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  5. “..We are getting zero net migration. So we are looking at a surplus of stock”.” – but politicians and MSM were saying high immigration is not pushing prices up. How come low immigration is pushing prices down?
    I said this many times.. without jobs, immigration can create more problems than solve. I’d like to see how opening the gates will work if there are no jobs.. moving forward.
    Mark my words – we will become main destination for all international drug lords, war lords, corrupt politicians.. who want to launder their money away from their own countries. Banks already proved this is happening but my view is it will get lot worse.

    • Most pivots round IPs for rental by investors catering to temporary churn over e.g. students, professionals etc., while negatively geared investors are catered to by govt. legislation in tax system. New permanent residents are less significant in number, many may still rent, if they wish to stay on in country for citizenship.

      Elephant in the room is the opaque market round apartment developments which seem to fly under market data radar (or totally bypass it), and lesser extent suburban housing developments.

      Of course there is still sentiment that drives much of the market..

  6. Side DishMEMBER

    Took part in an online auction for a 1137 acre rural block on Friday.
    First bid after 3 minutes of prompting $700k
    2nd bid of $900k came after 2nd call
    Passed in at $900k with a reserve at $1.4m
    Bank wants 40% deposit on ag lending

      • Side DishMEMBER

        Inverell NSW in the New England area
        Quality properties are still selling but it’s to corporate farmers or to the farmers next door who are expanding
        Most farms sold around here recently could not pay for themselves as a standalone enterprise
        Otherwise property’s that are rundown or have poor or no infrastructure are staying on the market

        • fitzroyMEMBER

          Thanks. It is a common situation down here in West Gippsland, with uneconomic land sizes.

  7. People are discounting apra/asic/banks sh!t fkery.

    Once mortgage holidays end they will offer P&I owners 1 year IO terms. They will try to avoid foreclosures at all costs.

    This is what the 6 month holidays are for… preparing all manner of measures to delay the day of reckoning

    • working class hamMEMBER

      IO only helps if you have a job and were on P&I to begin with. Most O/O will sell everything before the house, IPs will drag the market down and the negative equity weight will crush spending. The kitchen sink will be thrown at this, but the golden years of “Equity Mate” are gone.

      • Morty Mulgrew

        Only when there are ghost estates of unoccupied , half finished developments, will I believe the whoopsie has hit the fan 👀

        • working class hamMEMBER

          Great indicator.
          I think the construction industry will be the sign that this is the real deal.

  8. As a keen observer I’d have to say that prices have taken a bit of a tumble and are much closer to their pre-2019 election values than what they were a few months ago.

    Having said that, given that clearance rates have started climbing to ‘neutral’ levels’ there might not be the continued price drops that some are expecting.

    • Hard to draw a conclusion either way until number of auctions is a bit closer to normal.

      Remember, not only is the number of auctions tiny in comparison to usual (Melbourne is still down around 80% compared to weekend before the world stopped), they’re the properties belonging to vendors most confident of making a sale at auction (who are often individually a bit silly, but collectively have enough of an idea to bias the result).

      Also, end of JobHider will be an interesting test.