ScoMo tells temporary visa migrants to “go home”

Prime Minister Scott Morrison over the weekend ordered temporary migrants that do not have jobs and cannot support themselves to “go home”:

“These (student) visas, and those who are in Australia under various visa arrangements, they are obviously not held here compulsorily,” he told reporters in Canberra today after a National Cabinet meeting with state and territory leaders.

“If they are not in a position to support themselves then there is the alternative for them to return to their home countries.

“We still have quite a number of people who are here on visitor visas.

“As much as it is lovely to have visitors to Australia in good times, at times like this if you’re a visitor in this country, it is time, as it has been now for some while – and I know many visitors have – to make your way home and to ensure that you can receive the supports that are available … in your home countries”…

“People should know though, in particular for students, all students who come to Australia in their first year have to give a warranty that they are able to support themselves for the first 12 months of their study,” Mr Morrison said.

“That is a requirement for their visa when they come for the first year. That is not an unreasonable expectation of the government that students would be able to fulfil the commitment that they gave.”

Below is an extract of the media release from the Acting Minister for Immigration, Alan Tudge:

There are 2.17 million people presently in Australia on a temporary visa.

All were welcomed to Australia on a temporary basis for different reasons including to fill skills shortages; to study as full fee-paying international students; to visit family and friends; or to work and holiday…

There has always been an expectation that temporary visa holders are able to support themselves while in Australia…

Temporary visa holders who are unable to support themselves under these arrangements over the next six months are strongly encouraged to return home. For these individuals it’s time to go home, and they should make arrangements as quickly as possible…

Temporary visa holders are extremely valuable to the Australian economy and way of life, but the reality is that many Australians will find themselves out of work due to the dual health and economic crisis we’re currently facing, and these Australians and permanent residents must be the Government’s number one focus…

The Morrison Government is right. Temporary visa  holders that cannot support themselves must return home wherever possible.

Only in exceptional circumstances, for example where they cannot return home due to travel bans and face homelessness, should Australian taxpayers provide financial support and free medical care. In these exceptional circumstances, we want migrants to self-isolate to help contain the coronavirus, just like Australian permanent residents are required to do, as well as to seek medical attention where necessary.

Beyond the immediate crisis, however, the Morrison Government must also take concrete steps to slash Australia’s immigration intake, both temporary and permanent.

The number of temporary visa holders in Australia is absurd, with 2.3 million counted in late 2019, up 640,000 (38%) since 2012:

This tidal wave of temporary migrants, many of whom have been paid at below market rates and dominate cases of wage theft and exploitation, are a key reason why real wage growth has stagnated and there is so much excess labour capacity across the Australian economy.

These migrants have also helped crush-load both Sydney and Melbourne, trashing living standards.

Permanent migration also must be slashed. With millions of Australians now facing unemployment or underemployment, the popular myth that Australia is experiencing skills shortages and requires a massive (108,000) annual skilled migration intake can no longer be defended.

The very last thing the economy needs is for Australian workers to be competing for scarce jobs with huge numbers of migrants. This excess labour supply would send the unemployment and underemployment rates rocketing, as well as create wage deflation.

Once the coronavirus crisis has passed, and international travel bans are lifted, the Morrison Government must send a significant share of “temporary” visa holders back to their home countries, as well as halve the permanent migrant intake.

Leith van Onselen
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  1. haroldusMEMBER

    Once the coronavirus crisis has passed, and international travel bans are lifted, the Morrison Government must send a significant share of “temporary” visa holders back to their home countries, as well as halve the permanent migrant intake.

    Ah I see the problem here. That’s when they’ll open teh gates.

    Amirite Peachy!

    • Yeah but i thought i heard this is all unecessary.. people will still stay here because. Free medicare and beaches. More will come too even in the face of no jobs.

    • No no no. The story I heard was that migrants will still just stay here with no jobs and saddled with debt that they cant repay because of the free medicare (they have to pay for and doesnt have enough beds) and the beaches (that is illegal to go to) and fresh air (albeit virus infested so quarantine).
      Immigration being pro cyclical and going backwards when times get tough? No not a chance.
      LNP putting out an official statement to say the cheap casual temp workers should go back home? That will NEVER happen.
      Govt stopping immigration from overseas flights? Never. Going. To. Happen.
      So the latest one is now this…
      Govt wont be in a position post virus to open the gates when unemployment over 20% locally? No no, offcourse they will open teh gates because you know, govt enjoys paying out double the newstart allowance forever.

  2. To all the Uber eats Latin Americans etc driving for Uber eats in Brisbane… kindly go home and soon. The nerve to be coming here and stealing our jobs under the pretence of doing some bs course

    The only question is.. when will things get testy for the temporary visa holders who won’t go home and when will the locals take matters into their own hands when they won’t and unemployment is 20percent?

    I always thought the veneer of a multicultural aust was fine in good times and can go quickly cactus in rough times

    • Markus Paddey

      If you come from some South American or Bombay slum you sure don’t want to go home. Uber eats in Australia with free Medicare and welfare is way better than home.

      They will just stay on illegally, or apply for some bs humanitarian visa.

    • Give it time, once the desperate need food, they will start interrupting food delivery services through physical confrontation. I certainly don’t condone it, but it will happen nonetheless .

      • John Howards Bowling Coach

        I never use these services but I have heard it happens that they help themselves to your meals. I can imagine that an illegal migrant working for food delivery making next to no income is going to find it an impossible temptation to resist.

        Given the hygiene standards of many of these 3rd world arrivals they don’t seem to be the best vehicle through which to have any type of food delivered.

  3. Such hypocritical flatulence is truly awe inspiring. Breathtaking even!

    “These (student) visas, and those who are in Australia under various visa arrangements, they are obviously not held here compulsorily….”

    Errr, well no. But these visas are the closest that a government has to a gilt-edged invitation to come and enjoy the amenity developed by the citizens of Australia over generations so that they can be exploited by industries that want cheap labour while getting everyone else to pay for it through a hidden taxes, externalities and a run down tertiary education system.

    It’s all about Big Australia and Big ideas about Big populations and Big vibrancy – remember that?

    Could it be that during a pandemic that Australian cities stuffed to the gunnels with mass people is no longer convenient? Might it also be that this giant bad of wind will invite them all back again next year so that we can do it all again in a few years time – GFC/debt style but this time with lethal pathogens?

    • haroldusMEMBER

      Of course he will. But I think he has to make this show now. I am sure he’s not doing this voluntarily.

      Suspect some modelling has been done that makes Cronulla look like harmony day.

      Edit: And think about how bad it must be to get through that head.

      • Wait until the first back into the workforce are the temporary visa holders at a reduced rate with unpaid overtime in their 80 hour week.

      • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

        Their pollsters and spin doctors must all be working overtime crunching the numbers on the best new narrative to embrace to manipulate public opinion to keep the LNP in power.

        The Wuhan bat sniffles has wrecked the coalition’s carefully constructed narrative about being better managers of the economy than Labor and their representation of Welfare recipients as all being lazy labor voting bludgers is also getting a hiding.
        So what do the Coalition embrace to win the next election?
        My guess is they will begrudgingly piss off their coporate sponsor’s and cut immigration and Work visas numbers hard.
        There will be no faking it this time, like Howard did, and if Labor don’t follow and match or better the reduction in numbers then an incompetent and corrupt LNP will rule again.
        And again it will be Labors fault.

        • haroldusMEMBER

          Sadly I think there will be faking it, legazens will crack it, there will be mass arrests.

          Let’s face it, how much simmering anger was out there in December, before the Wuflu raised its ugly head.

      • DominicMEMBER

        Modeling the virus or modeling the shambles that will be the budget for the next few years? These ‘temps’ could represent billions of dollars per annum in additional funding just to prevent them adding to the inevitable crime wave and homelessness problem.

  4. Cue Labor to shoot themselves in both feet by calling for them to stay and for the government to support them all.
    Which explains why so many who wanted to vote Labor in the last election didn’t.

      • Charles MartinMEMBER

        nah, they won’t pass up a good moral excellence session. Although, the “Greens” have been quiet, this could be a good opportunity for them to remind us all of their relevance.

  5. And Scumo’s approval ratings soar. See, Canberra, this is what Australian voters want. They are tired of the country being eroded by mass immigration.

    Wonder if Labor will get it through their thick heads. I highly doubt it. Labor may as well name themselves the immigration and foreigners’ interests party.

    • happy valleyMEMBER

      Yep, Scotty’s ratings to the moon – just proves that a happy clappy PM can fool most of the people most of the time?

      Plus, we’ve had a go and we got a go with our years of TV holder wage slaves, helping the LNP/Labor lower the wage bar to poverty level. Now, Scotty knows that we’re going to have 20% + unemployment, so that the locals on the scrap heap will now work for even less? How good is Straya.

      • bolstroodMEMBER

        Freedom is of incalcuable value , that is why it must be protected from those who want the freedom to make slaves.

    • Correct. The fallout will be that entire industries that have been reliant on the underpayment and exploitation of migrant workers through keeping wages low will have their business model smashed and should go down in flames.

      Labor may be holding out that the spike in Morrison’s approval is crisis related, and perhaps comparable to Anna Bligh who had great ratings during the Queensland floods but was suffered a record landslide. I believe the polls have shown Albo’s approval up to 45 and disapproval down, despite Morrison spending hundreds of billions and taking up all the news spots.

      • bolstroodMEMBER

        Let’s wait and see what Scotty’s rating’s are when he declares Snap Back, and cuts the money off.
        This is the reason for his rocketing polls, the “free” money, not so much his telling Temp Visa holders to go home.

  6. Chinese Virus

    Government just needs to stay strong here.

    They’ll get the message if there’s no money coming their way.

    • Yep. Too many instances of ‘should’ in that Tudge document on the weekend. Didn’t see MUST in there which means it’s as weak as p1ss.

      Most of these TV holders will fight tooth and nail to stay if there’s a glimmer of hope on the welfare front. Watch them further clog the court system up with their challenges.

      • DominicMEMBER

        The ray of light here is that the crisis is so severe that courts will not hear their cases and the press will be less than sympathetic when the plaintiffs’ lawyers and / or cheerleaders approach with sob stories. Party’s over folks – time to pack your sh*t and head to the nearest airport.

        • This concept of courts and tribunals not hearing cases is something that interests me. I wonder how much discretion the judicial system has in the context of migration law to use battlefield triage principles and just throw out/refuse to hear cases that don’t have realistic prospects of success (obviously applying a threshold, at this time, that is materially higher than the usual threshold)…

          Who knows enough about migration law to comment on this?

          • DominicMEMBER

            I have no idea — it’s just that, in a crisis, when resources are under severe pressure, less sympathy is forthcoming. That shouldn’t be the way it works but crises have a tendency to change the game somewhat. 2.7m applications to the courts for something or other just won’t wash. The Gubmint would need to move the goal-posts and declare a sovereign force majeure.

          • Does it matter, just get parliament to make up and pass some new laws.
            They were quite happy to do that to throw money around, and reduce our rights.

      • bolstroodMEMBER

        There would be a lot of Temp Visa holders who are trapped here due to lack of money for flights,no flights out ,or closed borders in their country of origon.
        What to do about them ?
        The real problems will arise when the V emergency is over, we have mass unemployment, and Aussie workers (rightly) demand precedence over temp visa holders for work.

  7. with unemployment rising and debt collectors knocking soon, not only temporary visitors will leave
    one can expect many, now permanent, residents to leave running away from debt, poverty, misery …
    with savings of few $10k or just few Australian CCs they can create a nice life in large part of the world

  8. ApproachingZero

    A few weeks ago Scummo was willing to compromise the nation’s health to get foreign students here, now he wants them gone.

    • the aim was to loot their money. Wasn’t 31st March cut off date in regards to refunds.. Someone here reported (from memory) that if Unies shut down after 31st March students are not entitled to refunds or something along these lines.
      I might be wrong on this one but can anyone confirm?

      • darklydrawlMEMBER

        Exactly. Census date was 1st of April for many unis – only a week either side for all of them. Census date is done. Any students still enrolled on that date are liable for the semester 1 fees. That is why SloMo can now ask them to leave. Kah Ching$$$

        • I think it’s worse than that.

          He waited until now knowing that most of them WONT leave now. (sunk costs and all that).

          He’s just posturing about “they should leave”.

          He hasn’t changed his spots at all.

        • darklydrawlMEMBER

          There were a few on here (including myself) who said to look out for the census dates as a trigger point – in my case I was suggesting that is when the Uni’s would close. Given SloMo’s statement – I want to hear a Journalist asked both the Government and some VC’s why they were hell bent on bending the rules to let the internationals back in, just to take their money and then kick them out. It’s the Aussie way I guess. Regardless of any underlying reasons, it looks like we are nothing but a pack of money hungry backstabbers.

          • can we get 100% confirmation from somewhere on this? If students are not able to get refunds then you are 100% correct – the way you described us as a Nation.

          • darklydrawlMEMBER

            Here are samples. LaTrobe only lists the 2nd semester dates now (it was 1st of April – the example is still on the site – copied below). All of the uni sites have this info – although you sometimes need to dig a bit to find it.

            ‘============================================================
            https://www.latrobe.edu.au/calendar/all-students/census-dates

            “Example:

            Amy is enrolled in a Semester 1 subject in 2020, which has a census date of 31 March. If Amy withdraws from the subject on or before 31 March 2020, she will not have to pay for the subject.

            If Amy withdraws from the subject on or before 29 April 2020, she will still have to pay for the subject but won’t be given an academic penalty. If Amy withdraws from the subject after 29 April, she will receive a KN Grade (Fail) for the subject and also have to pay for the subject.”

            ‘============================================================
            https://students.flinders.edu.au/key-dates/critical-enrolment-dates

            “Census date:

            The census date for a topic is the last day on which a student can withdraw from topics without incurring student contribution amounts (Commonwealth supported student), tuition fees (fee-paying student) and student services and amenities fees. Topics withdrawn by this date will not appear on the academic transcript.
            Undergraduate and postgraduate coursework students

            The census date is the Friday of teaching week 5 in each semester. In 2020, these census dates are:

            3 April 2020 for semester 1 topics
            28 August 2020 for semester 2 topics”

            ‘============================================================

            https://www.uwa.edu.au/students/my-course/important-dates

            “5 April Census date (Semester 1), the last day to withdraw from a Semester 1 unit without financial consequence
            See Non-standard teaching periods for other census dates and more information at Fees”

          • Shades of MessinaMEMBER

            Unless Amy decides to max the credit card, break her lease and skip the country without paying her fees never to return !.

          • Yeah. I go to unsw and their census was 15th march. But all of them pretty close to each other in fhe last few weeks.

      • But highlights the short sightedness of Australia on all levels. Yay we screwed em and got the money, for semester 1.
        What happens for the next few years/decades though. That well has been well and truly poisoned.

        • Correct. Most students don’t realise they are not getting their money back. Give it a week or two and then social media will go off. Some countries Govs will also get involved and rightfully too. I would expect India and China to respond. The backlash will be huge.
          lol – greed will make our Unies and Gov lose long term gains for extremely short term benefit. Will be even funnier if our Unies are forced to give money back while international students never return to Oz.

  9. 2.17million X $1000 per ft night for 6 months is $28,210,000,000 not including healthcare etc………….send them packing ASAP

    • Most of the TVs will have zero money, the Government should offer free flights to their home country.
      Then no excuse when found still staying here.
      Probably have to be charter flights, as other posters have pointed, no or limited International flights.

      • bolstroodMEMBER

        Didn’t Qantas receive a sqillion $ from the govt. just before sacking 20,000 workers ?
        They owe the Australian taxpayer a great deal. Now is the time for Slomo to call that favour, un mothball the grounded aircraft and give the temp visa holders a free trip home.

          • bolstroodMEMBER

            Yeah , what a waste, they are configured to spread disease, with shared A/C circulating thru the ship.
            No way they can be converted to hospital ships.
            There are another 20 waiting to be launched.

  10. Mr SquiggleMEMBER

    I don’t mind providing shelter to homeless and medical care to the sick, provided it’s not on my coin. We need an international chargeback system for this situation, similar to the agreements countries Have in place for Social security pensions for migrants.

    If we don’t, how do we justify the compulsory rules around private health insurance, or the Medicare levy for australian tax payers? Free healthcare for TVs is a difficult idea, that highlights the moral hazard of mass migration.

    • Absolutely. How much is it now costing us to look after the Ruby Princess? All the while it remains registered in Bermuda, who are obliged to take her. Good luck with that. We need to send them the bill and they can pay it off with some of that tax haven cash.

      • Ukraine fnMEMBER

        @Jimbo problem being that they don’t have the cash. Carnival cruise line just got a line of credit to keep going and with all of their boats as collateral at 13% interest rate.

        • Possession is 9/10ths of the law as they say. We’ll take her and convert her into a hospital ship ala USNS Comfort. Think of the jobs!

  11. Jumping jack flash

    I guess since they effectively placed a floor under banks’ mortgage repayments either by shutting service businesses down and offering moratoriums and holidays, or offering huge wage subsidies, it is ok to send the slaves home for a while until it all blows over.

    Also since the government borrowed billions for the main purpose of consumption spending (which potentially 100 billion of that or more flows to the banks over 12 months), it doesn’t really matter if the slaves are here to steal wages from.

    Well played.

    • Jumping jack flash

      houses = banks = houses, so it is a sure thing.
      There’s more than enough stimulus now to ensure the banks can get their cut. There’s even enough left over after the banks take their share to boost the economy higher than it ever was before the virus.

      And don’t worry about the repayments for the stimulus debt, as long as the interest is repaid the banks are happy. In fact they like it best when just the interest is repaid.

  12. Negative NOM this year is now virtually guaranteed.
    Next year zero or close to it NOM as travel bans can’t be lifted until vaccine exists and widely distributed (at least six months after it becomes available)
    Even following year NOM will be down as places like India struggle to vaccinate everybody.

    By then we’ll be getting very close to having a shrinking China, so Big Australia never coming back is a real possibility.

    • darklydrawlMEMBER

      And then there is the issue of trying to vaccinate all of those halfwits who are busy burning down the 5G phone towers cause, you know… Facebook said it was a ‘Deep State’ instrument to trigger the virus and for mind control. Government approved Vaccine? F.off you deep state agent! You’re not going to inject me with that poison…

  13. Markus Paddey

    Sending 2 million visa holders back home should keep Virgin and Qantas in business too!

    • Jumping jack flash

      good point.

      This virus panic is shaping up to be the biggest boon to the economy ever. A lot of people and businesses were in deep trouble before all of this. Once lockdown is announced and a couple of new “emergency measures” are put in place to soak up the unemployed, the stats will be never better.

    • adelaide_economistMEMBER

      If we’re bailing them out to the tune of billions it makes perfect sense to charter them en masse to shift hundreds of thousands of people who will otherwise be committing crimes or costing us a fortune in welfare and medical costs. Killing two birds with one very expensive stone.

    • Shades of MessinaMEMBER

      Need to keep an eye out for the domestic violence now unfortunately. Will be replicated across the country in numerous households.

      Got to feel for the kids caught up in these situations.

      • adelaide_economistMEMBER

        No worries, everyone from Australian government advertising campaigns through to Clem Ford assure me that domestic violence is a purely anglo-celtic activity so none of the new migrants should suffer at all. I mean, that is why the emphasis is on white men in all of these campaigns, right?

        • Now now don’t get tetchy. We have to reassure our imports that it’s not just them who engage in this unsociable and economically costly activity. It’s the oblique way of letting them know what is and is not acceptable here. Just take one for the team ok? Thanks!

  14. Surely $500 a week is a pittance compared to the cost of the course. So if the students want to stay (remembering that PR is the end game) they will find the money from mum and dad who paid for the course in the first place.