“Scotty from Marketing” takes a pounding

Deny it all you want but this stuff is real and it is going to stick to the Morrison Government, at News:

Sir David Attenborough, 93, spoke to the BBC on Thursday as the United Kingdom prepares to host the 2020 UN Climate Change Conference in Glasgow.

“As I speak, south-east Australia is on fire. Why? Because the temperatures of the Earth are increasing,” he said.

“That is a major, international catastrophe. And to say, ‘Oh it’s nothing to do with the climate’ is palpably nonsense.

“Who has been affecting the climate? We have. We know that perfectly well.

“So we have to realise that this is not playing games. This is not just having nice little debates and arguments and then coming away with a compromise. This is an urgent problem that has to be solved.”

John Hewson is scathing at Domain:

Both major parties, over the past couple of decades, played short-term political games with climate change rather than address its magnitude and urgency. We are left in the unimaginable position of still having no climate action plan, no energy policy, no national disaster plan, no waste-management policy, no fuel security strategy, and no transition strategies to achieve a low-carbon society by mid-century.

Even in the depths of community despair, Morrison gave no real ground on any of these issues in his Insiders interview on Sunday. It is staggering how some in the media were at pains to find some marginal policy shift in his use of the word “evolve” in relation to his climate response

As Humpty Dumpty said to Alice in “a rather scornful tone”: “When I use a word … it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.” To which Alice replied: “The question is whether you can make words mean so many different things.” In that interview, Morrison did.

Many still completely misread Scotty from Marketing. He simply doesn’t accept either the magnitude or the urgency of the climate challenge. He is almost totally beholden to the fossil fuel lobby. Several of his senior staff are ex-coal executives; a couple of his key ministers have coal industry links; fossil fuel companies are major donors.

“Scotty from Marketing” has taken on a life of its own. David Crowe has more:

Liberals privately worry that Australians will not believe them on climate change because they think Morrison does not speak with conviction when he says the science is real and he is acting on the problem. What do words matter when Morrison is branded by the moment he walked into Parliament with a lump of coal?

Morrison talks of going “even further” to reduce emissions and building “resilience” to cope with a changing climate, but it is too soon to judge if this rhetoric signals anything other than a political panic.

The technology roadmap may include wonderful ideas for the future, but it is only required because of the failures of the past.

What, and entrenched denialism will win votes? It is my view that we are already at the point where the polity will stop listening to the Government but you’re better off marketing what people want to hear rather than the opposite.

There’s more at Domain about whether SmoCo’s narrow QLD base will crack:

…anti-establishment sentiment is not tied to any particular policy issue. It rests on perceptions of responsiveness to local concerns and events.

Morrison has made the mistake of seeing pro-coal patronage responsible for his 2019 victory. The ABS reveals only 37,800 people are employed in coal mining – barely 0.2 per cent of the voting public. There is no cultural affection for our coal export. Morrison won, in part, because mainstream Australians were turned off by the preoccupation the inner-city left in Melbourne and Sydney have with niche issues and identity politics.

But now there is likely to be a coalescing of views across the community about climate action. Australians reject anything that threatens their security, drives up their bills or risks their jobs. Now climate inaction presents that challenge – they are choking on smoke, homes and property have been destroyed, farmers are unable to grow crops or feed their stock, and fireys have had to risk their employment to protect their communities.

It was a factor. Palmer united is pro-coal. One Nation is pro-coal. They passed on the vital preferences to SmoCo. The other major factor was and remains nationalism and the desire for immigration cuts.

As the scorched states turn on SmoCo he is going to lose NSW and VIC seats. Whether the QLD seats will be shaken by fires is uncertain. SmoCo has an ace up his sleave in playing the nationalist card again and preteding to more phony immigration cuts where Labor won’t tread.

Even so, as the world burns around him, Scotty from Marketing needs something to sell.

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Comments

  1. The BystanderMEMBER

    I’m skeptical that it will last, but I hope it does – he’s a useless waste of a man who’s only got to the top job through his insular network of Liberal chums, and the bushfires have exposed him to the world

    • happy valleyMEMBER

      Not that he would care, this baggage will travel with him even if it is soon forgotten about in Straya (the rolled-gold home of apathy).

    • Agree 100%. The problem is there are many Liberal chums waiting in line. All of them just as useless as he is. The country is fvcked if we don’t exterminate them.

    • Smoko got the job because the other option was the jack booted thug Dutton.

      Nobody want Dutton as PM. He has the personality of a turnip and even rusted on LNP voters would have trouble with him.

  2. I think we all know that you can’t take anything for granted in politics. The next election is a long way away and the opposition is hardly inspiring.

    • That’s true, but unless they do significant reforms things will just get worse and worse. And they effectively campaigned against reforms. It looks more and more like Keating’s against the odds win that was succeeded by a landslide loss.

  3. As long as Labor insist on going full potato with a side serving of potato, Libs will win elections for the foreseeable future.

  4. Stewie GriffinMEMBER

    Connecting Australia’s terrible environmental record to mass migration should be the #1 effort of any Australian who is concerned with either of those two issues.

    The media, politicians and businessmen elites are doing EVERYTHING possible to prevent that connection from taking place.

    • It may be a convenient narrative, but is it accurate
      Is it the reason, really?
      Taking a counterfactual: what if we did have the CPRS/carbon price, what if the NOALition was not in power? What if things had been more planet friendly in the last 10 years?

      • It may be a convenient narrative, but is it accurate
        Is it the reason, really?

        There are certainly some big environmental issues with little to no connection to immigration.
        * Mining (runoff, site rehabilitation, etc)
        * Fracking (water table)
        * Other industrial pollution
        * Waste disposal (ie: landfill vs recycling). I mean this from a handling and policy perspective, since obviously immigration has a direct impact on the volume of waste.
        * Most land clearing (largely for agriculture)
        * Most water (mis)use (growing high-water-intensity crops in Australia, WTF?)
        * Bushfires (both the current ones, and in general)

        I haven’t seen an easy breakdown of energy consumption for this purpose. While “residential” only accounts for ~7% of energy consumption, “transport” is a huge chunk of it at about 30%, and a substantial fraction of that is going to be private motor vehicles. But mining and manufacturing make up nearly 30% as well, which are obviously not related. Electricity supply is about 25%, but it’s unclear from a quick read how that interacts with the numbers for residential, manufacturing, etc (and I haven’t seen a simple breakdown of electricity consumption by sector to go along with it).
        (https://www.energy.gov.au/sites/default/files/australian_energy_statistics_2019_energy_update_report_september.pdf)

        Taking a counterfactual: what if we did have the CPRS/carbon price, what if the NOALition was not in power? What if things had been more planet friendly in the last 10 years?

        Well the supposedly fake environmental party called the Greens are generally fairly gung-ho on addressing the issues above (along with the corruption that accompanies and enables them) – and usually pilloried in the media for trying to destroy the economy whenever they talk about it – so maybe if they had some more influence some of them would have been addressed.

        I’d also observe people trying to connect immigration with “the environment” tend to be indifferent at best to those issues above (or have the relationships arse-about-face – eg: thinking that huge amounts of land is cleared for housing).

  5. rob barrattMEMBER

    “over the past couple of decades, played short-term political games”. And there you have it. Climate, Immigration etc etc. And it’s hardly a surprise. I look out of my upstairs window & the road is full of SUVs whcih will never go off road. A small Queenslander a few doors up has been demolished & replaced by yet another 6 bed 3 bath mansion.
    In reality this says it all about us: Yes, I’m concerned about climate change, but only after I’ve got my SUV and mansion package.
    Another fact?. Both sides of politics are firmly into the population tidal wave policy which will have a catastrophic effect on average city living standards due to the total failure to invest in supporting infrasructure. They can do this because no-one speaks out and no-one is prepared to block a motorway or something in order to get them to listen. Our overwhelming apathy. Meanwhile, the so-called “socialist” party leaders go off & join banks as senior executives or swan off to London Paris & New York on “government” (ha ha) business..
    We’re a failed democracy. We will get what we deserve.

    • GunnamattaMEMBER

      This is where I am at – we are a failed democracy.

      For anyone raised in an era when Australia was an identifiable form of Westminster democracy with strong civil institutions like….

      a public service – which actually had a priority of public service rather than kissing the Ministers (or executive) backside
      Universities – which prioritised the principle of education not profits

      Policy based on data and rationale rather than ideology – everywhere we look we have an age where neo liberal ideology has completely shafted rational and data and completely rooted real policy……….health insurance, taxation & investment, free trade, immigration, education exports, services sector & wages, energy prices and markets, energy exports, the private sector and public service, – all just endless reams of utter bull……

      and

      media and journalists – Not the 25 year old nuff nuffs we get served up on mainstream TV each night who cannot distinguish faeces from clay, or the breakfast crews and comment hours trying to outwoke each other – but real journalists who dig up facts, establish narratives, and put decisionmakers under pressure, and fry ideology in hard backed data that resonates with the public, and reflects the public experience. Not kids or dullards copying and pasting PR notes into a story and creating ‘A said, B said’ stories of meaningless incoherence, but people who put something out there which is thought through and has integrity

      • rob barrattMEMBER

        Real Journalists? We have a choice of which bleached blondes we want to watch don’t we? And there’s all the naked excitement of the Cash Cow. Sophisticated indeed….

      • Just democracy the same as it ever was.
        The problem is the populace has lost it’s usefullness to the elites so is now getting shafted.
        Why spend money educating locals when you can import workers that other countries have educated for you, with the added bonus of using the education system to scam even more suckers into paying for an education?

        Policy is based on data and rationale.
        The problem is you misinterpret the desired outcomes. Policy is working wonderfully to enrich the wealthy at the expense of the masses. ideology doesn’t produce those results without sound planning underlying it.

        Media and journalists, like always simply do as the people paying for their services demand.
        Back in ye olden times when msm was a highly profitable exercise then they represented the views and interests of the populace responsible for paying their salaries.
        As distribution costs have fallen to 0 and lower cost alternatives have appeared the populace has made it abundantly clear they aren’t interested in funding the media any more so they wealthy elite have taken over funding them, with the inevitable outcome that they now represent and promote the views of these people.

    • Exactly. The country voted for Scotty to make house prices great again and that’s what he did.

      I don’t see anything major changing.

  6. Sorry but need to interrogate the assertion that the other major factor was immigration – is this backed up by any data around sentiment or post election polling for reasons?

    Or are you saying it’s inferred by the backlash against Albodross’s miyon moar grandparents (again though, what evidence supports this)

  7. Just need some cash handouts to boat owners from the north. A few seafaring muzzies wouldn’t go astray right now. Just ignore the flying ones.

    • It also works with helping to think about Trump. He’s just a dodgy property developer. Once you picture him like that is behavior makes sense. It’s only when you start thinking about him as a leader or a statesman that he is either completely infuriating or the messiah, depending on what floats your boat.

  8. Bolt brain farts again

    He’s starting to look like a pig on spit but no apple in the mouth chunk coal instead and half eaten raw onion (with Tony’s denture markings) stuck in he’s rectum flavouring you see

  9. Dale SmithMEMBER

    Really?

    Australia has just proven Climate Change is a Smoke Screen. Oh so ironic.

    Considering Macrobusiness has been quite happy for years to report on coal/oil/gas/trade/ etc. etc. between companies and countries based solely on the economics of trade, to suddenly lay the blame on where Australia sits now on one political party or one person in that party is pretty lame.
    Do you really think the any other party having won the last election would have changed the outcome of these fires?

    Where was the outrage about all the coal and iron ore that was being exported to China over the last couple of decades with regard to Australia providing the ammunition for China’s epic CO2 emissions?

    Australia has had the financial means more than any other country in the world to get their act together on Climate change, because you also needed to because you are prone to these fires more than most.

    Irrespective of climate change, historically high fuel loads are going to increase the size and number of fires, reducing that is the only thing you can do as a preventive measure to mitigate the severity.

    This latest politician you have is no different to the revolving door of parties and leaders you have had, and does anyone really think it was a coincidence that Ardern was ‘holidaying’ in Australia over this time?

    And for the record, our NZ politicians are no better, its just we don’t burn as readily as you do.

    And don’t send us your Koala’s, I can just imagine if the drop bears got as out of control as your possum presents did.

    Mind you we could then make toy Koalas out of real Koala fur instead of using possum fur like we do.

  10. Bolt brain farts again

    It maybe the only place left for breeding program as these fires will continue for the next 4to 5 years

  11. Jumping jack flash

    A couple of decades of doing nothing will do that.
    The problem was that politicians in charge no longer needed to know anything about the things they were in charge of. They no longer needed to do anything. They got a shiny monthly report from the private companies that were actually in charge, and that was enough.

    How good is privatisation?

    This freed up valuable time for the busy politicians to pursue the important things, like fighting among themselves over citizenship, big lunches, all manner of corruption and abuses of power, going overseas to visit their mail order brides, the incredibly important and nation-stopping issue of gay marriage [that took 2 years], and most importantly, organising and preparing for their life after politics.

    I’m sure these aforementioned are all vital issues, and far more pressing than trivial things like:

    “having no climate action plan, no energy policy, no national disaster plan, no waste-management policy, no fuel security strategy, and no transition strategies to achieve a low-carbon society by mid-century”

  12. Scotty from marketing can take the pounding, because he’s a cvnt, and nothing can get pounded as good as a…

  13. Just sent this message to local member Michael McCormack
    Having no climate action plan, no energy policy, no national disaster plan, no waste-management policy, no fuel security strategy, no transition strategies to achieve a low-carbon society by mid-century and no strategy on immigration increase , how do you and your party think that our community can continue with “growth” as your only stated objective?
    Expect that **crickets** will be the reply, same as last time I sent him an email