Morrison’s is wrong government, in wrong place, at wrong time

The truth is laid bare for all to see. Australia faces five critical challenges to its social and economic wellbeing today and, alas, it now abundently clear that the nation elected the wrong government to deal with any and all of them.

The first and largest challenge is climate change. Science, drought and bushfires are runnig in a parallel explosion of concern. The Morrison Government has no policy for any of it. There is no fix to the Murray Darling water debacle. Towns are runnig out of water. Sydney is next. Nothing has been done to fix rising carbon emissions. And too much in stupid giveaways to uneconomic farmers.

The second challenge is China. Foreign interference has mushroomed as the Chinese Communist Party turns its attention to shaping the region in its image. Instead the Morrison Government has turned its attention to closing the tiny aperture of the Medevac legislation. This pointless distraction utterly fails to cover the scandal of a foreign agent of influence holding the Government’s majority in her CCP-greased hands. Home Affairs has dithered while the problem has intensified. Universities are overrun with CCP influence. There is no China policy as Australians are tortured on the mainland, live in fear in Hong Kong and are pushed out of the Pacific.

The third largest problem is income. Australia households are being strangled by a combination of poor productivity, massive immigration of cheap foreign labour, and an entire raft of policies aimed at boosting rentier profits over wages. The Morrison Government’s response has been to launch union-busting legislation that will make it all worse while doing nothing to make it better.

The fourth largest problem is house prices which pose both an economic risk, as well as huge inter-generational and social fragmentation. Making this worse has been the only concerted goal of the Morrison Government. Meanwhile, it has done nothing about an enormous apartment defect crisis that is ensuring that there’ll will be no economic spillovers from the price boom.

The fifth largest problem is energy prices. Australian gas (and as result electricity) prices remain completely out of whack with our fundamental energy resourses. The Morrison Government has done nothing to fix the east gas price, is constantly supporting doomed coal, its energy minister is embroiled in corrution allegations, even as $20bn per annum is stolen from households and business by an energy cartel, making the income crush much worse.

On four of these a Labor Government would have done much better:

  • actual carbon abatement policy;
  • cutting of temporary visas to ease foreign wage competition;
  • negative gearing reform for house prices;
  • installing aggressive gas reservation.

On the fifth, China, it is certainly compromised by CCP cash and grey beard apologists. But no more so than the Morrison Government’s entire majority hanging on Gladys Liu.

We elected the wrong government.

David Llewellyn-Smith
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  1. Labor wouldn’t have cut the rate of Jimmies flowing in either. In fact they would have brought in retired old farts also

    • My mother is very well connected in the ALP. I explained to her last night that all the ALP had to do to win was stop the identity politics and look after the worker and the will win in a land slide.

      What is “identity politics” ?

      Head meet palm.

      ALP are entirely, like COMPLETELY, enraptured with their PR, marketing, and consumer behavioral teams and market researchers – they can’t get enough of it. Problem is by definition NONE of these people are plumbers or tradies and none of them live in Tarneit, or Dallas – they live in Parkville or Prahran. The people they get their market research from all reside around there too – and drink double macchiato’s from sustainably harvested WWF certified coffee plantations where half the proceeds go to Orangutan rehabilitation. No palm oil.

      The people the ALP listen to because they have their “finger on the pulse” are possibly the most out of touch inner city tossers you can imagine.

      I should know – I live with them, speak with them, know them. According to them I haven’t got a clue and silencing white males like me isn’t racist its absolutely imperative – the future is female and brown. Deal with it. (No thats not a joke – thats what they are being told – its STRAIGHT out of the US Democratic party play book. They think they are soooo with it).


        • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

          I gotta admit that bloke does sound a lot like me.
          Maybe me Ma droped one out before she met me Da and adopted out a brother I never knew I had!

      • Reading through Herbert’s comments, half of him sees Labor as it is, half of him doesn’t. In reality, they’re much more concerned about medevac and visas than workers and wages. Which is why they’ll keep on losing.

        • China PlateMEMBER

          and that’s exactly where the LNP wants them to focus, mean while Labor plays right into their hands

          • Actually, this competition between lib/lab is where both of them want you to focus, while they both continue to work for the benefits of their donors and mates while scewing over the population together with similar policies.

        • ErmingtonPlumbingMEMBER

          I grate a lot of people in my Party when I repeatedly say if we don’t return to aggressively representing the interests of Working people we don’t deserve to Win.

      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        Kelly-Anne Conway pretty much nails the issue – given that the US and Trump represents exactly the same fundamental problem with the ‘working man’s party’ as in Australia:

        “Elitist Law Professors Looking Down on the Forgotten Men and Women of this Country “That woman yesterday looks her nose down at you. She thinks that you are less than her and I’ve had it…Who the hell are you lady to look down at half the country?!”

        • And after three years the Dems still refuse to admit that this is why Trump got in — it was Russian bots! Seriously, what hope does the world have when educated people believe this drivel. We are fcken doomed.

          • The90kwbeastMEMBER

            It is suggestive to me that the Dems know they can’t win the 2020 election against Trump so the only way forward is to double triple down on Trump’s impeachment to remove him that way instead.

      • Yep the “woke” apocalypse has definitely reached its peak. it now pervades all our politics, media and social life.

        The good news is I think it’s now in sharp decline, as it destroys the fortunes of companies, media franchises, and political parties.

        Look at the raging dumpster fire that is the Star Wars franchise. They filled it full of woke, the mSM attacked all the fans as toxic racist biggots to get clicks, and now the franchise no longer moves toys or other products.

        Companies have realised the consultants who told them the kids are all super woke so you gotta target that, were mistaken. Its just a very small number of really noisy people who spend all day on Twitter getting angry at everything with a male white dude in it. And these people don’t spend money, because they don’t actually enjoy anything but their own outrage.

        It will take political parties much longer to realise, because once infected with these woke grifters it’s harder to get rid of them.

        Until then, I’m looking forward to the new Star Wars thats about to drop and LMFAO as the franchise continues to burn down to a pile of woke ash.

        • Check out Ctrl-Shift-Face on YouTube. Hopefully we can resurrect the new films and replace actors faces with better actors or just dub over the woke sjw lines with garbled Wookie noises.

      • “… the future is female and brown.”

        Yep, explains Raelene Castle. The ‘woke’ Board of RA decided “this appointment should play well with the public”

        In Raelene’s defence, even she was a little taken aback, suspecting expediency.

        All this wokeness is certainly going to reek a bit of damage over time, with plenty of glaring examples already.

      • I don’t know what tradies you’ve been talking to recently, but many (self employed) will now tell you (with chest puffed out) that they’re small business operators, not tradies with a ute and those on resource sites will whinge constantly about paying too much tax and how Labor is a high taxing party. The inability to see that they’re paid so well because of industrial laws and that if the LNP had its way they wouldn’t be getting anything like what they earn is beyond most.

        • Mining BoganMEMBER

          It’s not just the big money earners. Even the $70k yobs I’m with now put down the ALP for trying to bring them down and bang on about their indebted riches.

          This country has a real sickness.

  2. One might even get the impression that the LNP are governing for the 1%.

    But is this what it has come to – arguments akin which political poison tastes the best? Cyanide, strychnine of arsenic?

    Stop chugging poison.

    • Maybe for the .0001%.
      I am probably in the 1% and I pay truck loads of tax.
      Several accountants have just smiled and shrugged their shoulders when I enquire about how I can join these mythical non-taxpayers I read about on MB.

      • If you are a wage earner, it is very difficult to avoid paying tax, and you are also probably not the 0.1% maybe 1% that is being discussed. Trusts,companies and expensive accountants are the path to tax avoidance, but you need a lot of money to make it worthwhile in the first place.

      • I’m no expert but it apparently helps if you already have most of your money and you aren’t earning it. Also:
        – put it in family trusts and company structures offshore.
        – run a company and get them to pay you in shares, or not at all, just have the company registered overseas, siphon money offshore then transfer it to yourself (also offshore) in secret
        – there would be a zillion other tricks

        Get a better accountant!

        And most importantly, you need to think about robbing and ripping off Australia EVERY STEP of the way, not just at the final step.

        • Typically the uber-rich just have debts and no income i.e. they’ll have all their assets abroad in tax havens and then have a global bank with a branch here that simply extends them an unlimited overdraft. The overdraft is then secured on some or other asset in a Cayman’s trust — something like that or a variation thereof. It’s actually not very complex.

          The truth is that if that they any income here it would be offset by the costs of running the overdraft (expenses).

  3. Only in the last few months I have begun to consider, truthfully and in trepidation, will we become the next Argentina? Without hyperbole, the path we are heading down in this country is truly scary. Never in a million years would I have thought Australia would go down this path, but it seems increasingly so that it might.

    • Argentina’s was once heralded across the entire world as the single greatest economic miracle of the 20th century. It was wealthy, prosperous, and highly cultured filled with progressive ideas and as mentioned the bastion of modern liberal economics championed by the world bank and WTO.

      Its demise was centered around its incredibly focused exports into an restricted number of countries. This was exacerbated by its high debt. As soon as those limited number of countries buying their exports dipped in demand it severely affected Argentina.

      Argentina, like Spain at the height of the Conquistadors and their wealth, had become highly reliant on imports – they were both very wealthy and hence had moved beyond supplying their basic needs so when their exports dried up and demand for their currency evaporated the price of imports sky rocketed causing huge inflation.

      With that inflation the only solution was to raise interest rates to temper the rampant inflation – and with the huge amounts of debt everyone was carrying – well the cycle was started.

      That cycle has never been broken – Argentina has climbed out of the hole twice only to be consumed by the same problem each time.

      Australia – tightly focused exports, highly restricted export markets, high debt, no domestic production and total reliance on import, an economy where a serious currency shock will spike inflation to extreme levels in an economy where interest rate rises will destroy the entire economy – for decades at least.


      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        Correct as your comments are regarding debt, that is only a partial analysis as to the structural reason why Argentina transformed from a nation with a European standard of living, into simply another basket case.

        Argentina was relatively un-populated compared to most of the rest of Continental South America.

        Following immigration from Western Europe, in particular Italy and parts of Spain, Argentina actually managed to transform itself into the industrial powerhouse of South America, and became the culturedl, prosperous society you described. It grew rich like Australia from commodity exports, and like Australia it also developed a not insignificant industrial manufacturing sector.

        Like Australia Argentina had a small and extremely wealthy land holding class. In Aust they were called ‘Squatters’ in Argentina they were the Hacienda holders.

        Unlike Australia though, Argentina was not protected by the natural borders of sea. It suited the Hacienda holders to tolerate the immigration, because they got cheap Gauchos to work on their farms and in their factories – sound familiar?

        Consequently as it became rich and a source of employment it was also flooded with mass internal migration from other nations within South America – base level IQ differences between the indigenous and mestizo population compared to Europe meant that it soon self assorted into a fairly stratified society, mainly based around ethnicity – a more capable white, elite, and a majority indigenous mestizo worker class. The population of which exploded relative to the population the European founders.

        Immigration eventually transformed Argentina from a wealthy, fairly egalitarian nation, into a stratified, corrupt and broken society, just as it is transforming Australia.

        If you want to look at Australia’s future, just look to other truly Multicultural nations around the world, India, South Africa, Brazil and Argentina.

        • Come on mate. Your racial explanation is bullsh!t. Argentina can be explained by basic economics and does not need a rubbish overlay of false assertions that wh!te people are smarter and less lazy than brown, or whatever.

          In any case Argentina’s immigration was not who you claim. It was mostly poor people from Italy and Germany – the same types of people who arrived in the US and it did absolutely fine thanks.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            I’ve spent considerable time in Argentina – studied Spanish there and in Bolivia and know many Argentinians. There are two distinct population groups – white and mestizo.

            For most of its early existence Argentina was a Spanish colony exporting agricultural commodities. Then in the mid 19th century it experienced a massive wave of immigration from Western Europe, as you said “It was mostly poor people from Italy and Germany – the same types of people who arrived in the US and it did absolutely fine thanks.”…. and they did indeed do just fine, not disputing that at all, and helped build Argentina into the wealthy, economic power house that it was at the turn of the century.

            But, its success lead to mass internal migration from other South American nations, such that the European or ‘white’ population was soon outnumbered by Mestizo. The implications of which fundamentally changed the culture and the politics of the nation and transformed it from another European nation (abet transported to the Southern Hemisphere) to simply another basket case.

            Demographics is destiny, and Argentina’s magic soil is no more real than Australia’s.

          • I’ve lived there too. I’m no fan of excessive immigration or basket case economics. But you don’t need a racial element to the argument. The idea that “white” and “mestizo” are separate in Argentina is a fiction (although some whites will claim so, clinging to their fancy surname and pretending to still be European). Certainly more whites are rich and more browns are poor but it is a very mixed continuum not a sharp division.

            And neither the rich nor the poor are any more meritorious or smarter or harder working than the other. They are just (as always) trying to screw the other, and the country, as hard as they can to survive.

            The tools of the poor are voting power, populist policies and strikes. The rewards they seek are wealth transfers from the rich, subsidised electricity and gas, the usual fruits of sh!thouse populist pork barreling.

            The tools of the rich are the usual elite advantages: control of assets , networks of mates, and access to better education, capital and power. The rewards they seek are the usual too – exploit and oppress the poor, rentseeking, creaming off whatever they can and hiding it from the taxman.

            Both are fcken fcked. The country is fcken fcked.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Arrow – I’m not arguing that race explains everything. I agreed with Herbet but added there are other factors as well, but race and demographics explains far more of the differences in outcome than polite company will allow (which is currently pretty much zero).

            In terms of the white/mestizo split, again I agree with you, it is far blurrier than sharp division, but that is ALWAYS the case. There will always be dumb white people and smart brown people, I have never argued that all white people are smarter than all brown people.

            I only argued that the distribution of characteristics that relate to intelligence tend to be found in higher proportions in white populations than brown, (just like they are found in higher proportions among East Asian populations than white) and the outcome of those distributions are evident in what you yourself observed “Certainly more whites are rich and more browns are poor but it is a very mixed continuum not a sharp division.”

            Unlike Australia, Argentina factually ran a far less selective immigration policy than ourselves, certainly during the mid 19th century right up until the early 1930’s. It was FAR more Multicultural than Australia at the turn of the century – how did that work out for them in the long run?


            As it experienced far greater relative success to other South American nations, it was also subject to far higher internal undocumented immigration from other South American nations, which gradually increased as a proportion of its total immigration intake from the turn of the century, but especially after the 1930s.

            All I’m saying and continue to say is that demographics is important and helps explain a significant portion of nations success, past and present.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Argentina remains the whitest nation in South America – but remember South America is also far more racist than the west, so consequently unlike say Australia where every octaroon and above falls over themselves to declare their indigenous ancestry in South America everyone falls over themselves to describe themselves as white.

            Ecuador is a nice place to visit, but having travelled extensively throughout all of South America, the only place I would care to return to would be Argentina…

            GDP per capita Ecuador – 6,200 USD

            GDP per capita Argentina – 14,500 USD

            So despite all Argentina’s basket case economics, that added ‘Whiteness’ still delivers twice the life outcome.

          • Argentina was one of the wealthiest nations in the world at the end of the 19th century. Argentina has always been much whiter than Ecuador, so if their racial / ethnic compositions were a deciding factor then the gap between them should have kept widening over the last 100 + years.

            I think culture plays a role. But when you compare, say, Dominican Republic to Haiti, you wonder how significant their racial / ethnic compositions are.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Just because Argentina is whiter than Ecuador, why would the economic gap between them continue to get wider?

            I would expect a gap to remain, but there is no reason that it would get proportionally wider unless the white or Asian population continued to increase relative to Ecuador.

            Indeed, as I have been saying the proportion of white people as a percentage of Argentina’s population has been decreasing for the past 100 years, so I would expect that the gap between Argentina and other South American nations to gradually be closing – which is EXACTLY what has been observed.

            I think culture plays a role. But when you compare, say, Dominican Republic to Haiti, you wonder how significant their racial / ethnic compositions are.

            In regards to Haiti vs the Dominican Republic, Haiti achieved global notoriety for genociding it’s ENTIRE white population during their slave revolt at the start of the 18th century, and then just for good measure killed all their bi-racial population too, just to be sure the evils of whiteness never re-emerged there.

            The Dominican republic, while initially populated with majority slave population in similar proportions to Haiti, never-the-less continued to pursue significantly more immigration from Europe and other nations.

            Haiti Ethnic groups
            black 95%, mixed and white 5%

            Dominican Republic Ethnic groups
            mixed 70.4% (mestizo/indio 58%, mulatto 12.4%), black 15.8%, white 13.5%, other 0.3% (2014 est.)

            The resulting differences in demographics today, as always, explains the majority of the difference between the two nations.

        • It has more to to with the US imposing the Monroe Doctrine (1823). This triggered an investment retreat by the UK and other European countries. A void that was never filled by the US and something Argentina never recovered from economically. In fact the US has stalled investment and progress across South America.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            If that were the case why did Argentina continue to prosper and expand for another 80yrs?

            Undoubtedly the Monroe doctrine has had some impact on all of South America, however Herbert’s argument’s around debt, and the impact of the great depression in the 30s and collapse in world trade, had a far larger impact on where Argentina is today than the Monroe document.

            Again, I’m not arguing that economic factors haven’t influenced where Argentina is today – but considering the fact that BOTH Australia and Argentina had relatively similar economies at the turn of the 20th century (indeed Argentina’s manufacturing was significantly larger than Australia’s) there are obviously other factors at play in explaining the relative differences in where we are today.

            Starting from the 1850’s Argentina ran a significantly more Multicultural immigration policy prior to the 20th Century than Australia, and it took significantly more immigrants from Spain and Italy, especially the Southern regions. It has also experienced massive internal immigration from other South American nations – as I have elaborated on above.

            Australia’s immigration policy only began to resemble Argentina’s in respect of cultural diversity from about 1980’s onward i.e. increasingly diverse and in greater numbers relative to the existing population.

            We WILL become a more dysfunctional nation, just like Argentina – the sort of things MB opines about are a sign of economic and political dysfunction.

            Fifty years from now there will be little economic difference between Aust and Argentina.

        • You’re using Brazil as an example of failed multiculturalism? The country had the largest and longest history of slavery that created an entrenched underclass while the while minority elite has continued to govern in its own interest for centuries…and for you this is an example of failed multiculturalism? My god, that’s ridiculous.

          I’m in favour of reduced immigration to Australia, but when I read these ridiculous posts trying to explain the clear result of historical (European) crimes I start to wonder whether the economic arguments I read around here are really just cover for ahistorical cultural jingoism.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            I included Brazil among a list of other nations, including South Africa, India, but I may has well have included Argentina on that list as well.

            There were more white slaves traded in the Barbary slave trade than were Africans ever exported to North America. Those slaves experienced far more brutality than was generally metted out in North America, yet you don’t see a white underclass in those Arab nations today do you?

            Far from being a homogeneous Multicultural nation, Brazil far more resembles a United Federation, with the exception of the major cities of Sao Paulo, Rio and Brazilia, are generally comprised of fairly ethnically distinct population groups.

            Descendants of African slaves dominate the Northern States, while various European population settled in the Southern states. If you have travelled there you would note that the cities, culture and quality of life are also reflective of the general surrounding population – parts of Rio Grande do Sul and Paraná are virtually indistinguishable from towns in Germany or Italy.

            Pretending that all that is wrong with the world today is simply the result of past injustices is as facile as pretending that past wrongs have had no impact on peoples life outcomes today.

          • The cities in the south of Brazil were being populated by Germans while African slaves were still being brought in and forced to work in the sugar fields. Poorer European immigrants came to Brazil in waves, starting before slavery was abolished. The process aimed to reduce the risk of the slaves (and ex-slaves) rising up by whitening the country – poor Euro immigrants were promised (and usually granted) land for farming while this was denied to black Brazilians. Even after slavery was abolished, indentured labour continued to be the norm.

            In Brazil, overwhelmingly, to be poor is to be black and to be black is to be poor. Any attempt to explain this as a cultural phenomenon rather than the direct result of slavery is insulting.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Happy to insult you, because as I’ve clearly pointed out with the difference between Haiti and the Dominican Republic, there are more things influencing a nations outcome than whether or not slavery existed in it at any time in the past.


            That is not to say the injustices of slavery have not contributed to some or even the majority (i.e. >50%) of the differences in life outcome between different population groups in Brazil, but it is the height of stupidity to suggest it is the only thing.

          • Fair enough.

            I’m done getting gaslighted by someone with only a passing knowledge of Brazil, and whose only interest in it is to what extend he can cherry pick from its history to try to prove something about the failures of multiculturalism.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            I lived, partied and socialised with heaps of Brazilians in London, more so than any other nationality and have subsequently spent a prolonged period of time traveling extensively throughout Brazil – my knowledge is more than passing.

            I haven’t denied anything you have said as being FACTORS contributing to the differences in life outcomes between different Brazilians, but I’m saying that blaming all the differences on racism or slavery is just plain false or at least half the story…. just as I replied to Herbert that there was more contributing to Argentina’s demise than debt and the impact of the 1930’s depression.

            Honestly, ignoring culture and ethnicity, and how the demographics of a nation expresses itself in terms of the society and economy that it results in, is like a blind man trying to describe an elephant just by feeling its trunk.

          • I lived in Brazil for nearly 10 years. I speak fluent Portuguese. My wife’s PHD was on the Brazilian state’s suppression of landless movements/land reform and how that compared to state sanctioned squatting by elites.

            I’m glad you had a good time in London.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            I haven’t denied anything you have said as being FACTORS contributing to the differences in life outcomes between different Brazilians, but I’m saying that blaming all the differences on racism or slavery is just plain false or at least half the story

            Your wife’s PHD on the Brazilian state’s suppression of landless movements/land reform and how that compared to state sanctioned squatting by elites does not invalidate and is not invalidated by what I have stated.

            There’s plenty of people who blame ALL the differences in life outcome in Australia on racism too – they are just as wrong.

          • Your debating style is obvious. I could sit here all night drawing clear lines between Brazil’s slavery and today’s conditions – the myriad ways Brazil’s elites have entrenched their structural advantages through the state, the security services and the legal system. After all that effort, you’ll say – “I don’t deny they are FACTORS…but culture!”.

            I could also find plenty of examples, from colonization until today, of Brazilian authors using this same argument of cultural inferiority to justify slavery, to explain why the indigenous are subspecies and so on. It’s kind of ironic to be hearing the same thing from an Australian.

            I don’t know much about the other countries you’ve mentioned, but I’m guessing it’s the same story. You cherry pick some data that suits your argument, you skip over historical context until you get push back, then you admit that it’s “a factor” so you don’t have to totally deny that history actually happened.

            Brazil is a difficult country with many problems…but no, “multiculturalism” is responsible for exactly 0.0% of these problems.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            If you want to look at Australia’s future, just look to other truly Multicultural nations around the world, India, South Africa, Brazil and Argentina.

            Is that statement factually wrong? If Brazil is such a Multicultural nirvana, why have you moved here?

            I am well aware of EVERY SINGLE issue you have raised, and I don’t dispute any of it. The only thing I have issue with is the assertion that ALL of the life outcomes in Brazil are due to racism or slavery.

            You came straight at me gun-ho, and denied that there was any dysfunction to Brazil that was not due to its past slavery and racism, my assertion is that a portion of it is due to the fact that every single Multicultural nation around the world exhibits increasing dysfunction.

            The irony is that if someone was to ask me out of all the countries in the world where the MAJORITY of the gap in life outcomes is a result of Slavery or racism, I would probably have said Brazil (I already previously admitted that I thought ‘white’ South Americans were far more racist than most Westerners.

            The horrors perpetrated on the the Africans in the Brazilian slave trade, which was 10 times greater than the North American slave trade, are almost without par. I am aware of the land reform movement and of the fact that Africans were long forbidden from holding land, and your wifes PhD has hopefully assisted in rectifying the on going wrongs in that regard – but is the difference in life outcomes in Brazil 100% due to slavery and racism? I would categorically say No. Would it be 50% ? No, it probably much more.

            The history of India, South Africa, Brazil and Argentina are quite different to each other, so of course they’re will also be different drivers for their relative dysfunction. But they are all examples of true Multicultural societies. Despite the unending propaganda that we are subjected to in Australia, Australia IS NOT a Multicultural nation, although we are rapidly moving in that direction, we are still over 80% white, or of European ancestry with the overwhelming majority of that percentage derived from just 3 nations in the British Isle.

            Africa is like Africa because of Africans, if it was full of Germans living there it would look like Germany – just as in the case with Brazil.

            If there weren’t more factors determining life outcomes than simply historical slavery then there is no reason that Haiti, which has 200 years of freedom since they slaughtered all whites and bi-racials, should not resemble Waikanda or at least Korea (which was bombed back to the stone age 50 years ago). Instead the local Haitian delicacy is literally dirt – pies made from mud/clay.

          • It’s ridiculous to try to prescribe a % of causality from slavery to today’s conditions or life outcomes. Structural inequality is self perpetuating. A young black Brazilian caught with a small amount of cocaine tonight will likely go to jail without trial, a rich white boy will walk away without charge. What % of that is due to slavery or racism? It doesn’t make sense to try to quantify these realities and it makes even less sense to ascribe any of this causality to “cultural differences”. The only thing that is undebatable in the Brazilian reality is the clear historical path to where we are now.

            I fundamentally disagree that the problem of Brazil is due to “multicultural disfunction”, unless we are expanding the concept of “multicultural disfunction” to include the historical exploitation and subjugation of black Brazilians and its results. In that case you might as well describe the Holocaust as a “multicultural disfunction”. It’s absurd reductionism.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            The same story of persecution is played out in Australia between wealthy white boys and poor white boys, sure there is probably a bit more racisim involved with Brazil. But it is class and the unfair execution of power that is the injustice core injustice, but thanks to Multiculturalism or Multi-ethnicity it is cloaked and described as racism.

            The problem with Multi-ethnic societies is due to ‘diversity’ and the different distribution of physical and mental capabilities between population groups, what ends up happening is that in time class in those societies generally become stratified around race, which in turn leads to more discrimination and lower levels of co-operation, i.e. dysfunction rises.

            In some of those societies, it becomes highly stratified culturally, to the point it devoles in to a rigid class based system like India that permanently keeps different racial groups locked into a predetermined life outcome irrespective of an individuals capabilities. As racist as Brazil may appear, a young black man would still have more chance at moving into a higher class and obtaining a higher quality of life than your average Indian throughout most of Indian history.

            Taking issue with the fact that I tried to describe the ‘grey’ that exists in terms of just how much of Brazils dysfunction is due to its past from slavery or its multicultural nature, as being a ‘percentages’, is childish and ridiculous. My position that probably the majority of the difference in life outcome in Brazil is due to racism and the impacts of slavery, but not all, some of it is due to valid cultural and/or issues of biological fact.

            I could spend all night providing many reasonable counters and links to support and validate my views and opinions, but what would be the point? You are an ideologue who deals in absolutes by seeing the world in black and white, and probably a bigot too given how strongly you reject the validity of views that differ to your own.

          • “I could spend all night providing many reasonable counters and links to support and validate my views and opinions, but what would be the point? You are an ideologue who deals in absolutes by seeing the world in black and white, and probably a bigot too given how strongly you reject the validity of views that differ to your own.”

            Haha, righteo pepe.

          • You’re wasting your time having a discussion with someone who views everything through the prism of white nationalism. They will bend or just ignore any fact to suit their twisted world view.

      • I would add that Zimbabwe was also once hailed as Africa’s ‘economic miracle’ — the food bowl of Africa.

        Now it is little more than a dust bowl and an economic basket case. Part of the problem is that powers-that-be get high on all the success that is going on around them – and they get greedy (so corruption sets in) and they spend on things they don’t need like upgrading the military, such is the extraordinary wealth that surrounds them. But wasteful spending and graft eventually gets the better of even the strongest economies.

          • I know, right.

            I note that some black professor in the US has declared that milk is raycist — way too white, obviously. If the human race dies out soon, it’s because we deserve to. And Sweden continues to wallow in their delusional politically correct state with Germany not far behind — falling over themselves to accommodate migrants, to the point of wholesale denial of their own identity. Nationalism is evil!

            And Kamala Harris has dropped out of the race for Democratic nominee, claiming: “I don’t think America is ready to be lead by a woman of colour.” WTF! We just had a ‘man of colour’ in the top job and a woman (HRC) only narrowly missed out on the top job. But that’s okay – just blame your failure on ray-cism anyway. Rather than, say, the fact that nobody (in your own party!) likes you or your policies.

        • Ronin8317MEMBER

          What started the rot was getting involved in the civil war in Congo, which got really expensive. The government ran out of money to pay for the veterans, started the farm invasion, and the rest is history.

          • Military ventures, Ronin.

            They get the better of you eventually. History is replete with such examples – the Roman Empire being a fine example. War is never good – at least not for citizens, or the economy.

    • Same here. I’ve been frequently disappointed in our country’s political leadership for most of my adult life but until about July this year, always thought Australia would pull through.

      With the whopping amount of private debt we owe for housing and reliance on a narrow range of exports plus a government hell bent on keeping the current economic strategy alive I’m starting to feel genuinely scared for our future.

      • The burgeoning number of nail salons and massage parlours should give you some comfort.

        And if you’re into hookers, they’ll be a fraction of the price once recession sets in.

        • It’s already here.

          I’ve got a lawyer/economist mate that keeps track of a Gumtree Mandurah ute index and a Locanto (previously Craigslist) sex worker index for Perth/WA.

          The sex worker one has changed heaps in the last ~5 years. (Asking) Prices have gone way down, especially for elite white girls (from $500+/h down to $250-300/h for the glam girls, much less for the old/fat/ugly), and the asian girls (running under about $160/h). Asking only prices, everything is negotiable.

          The number of ads/girls has also boomed. From ~120 to 400+. He scrapes the data and assumes a unique girl for each phone number. Which underestimates the numbers, based on the pimp accounts posting multiple girls each, even adjusted to assume a healthy does of fakes/catfish.

          East asian girls are by far the most numerous, but Indian girls have started to climb in number/proportion; there were almost none up to three years ago and now they are common. There are the same-ish number of glam white girls but many more ‘poorly’ presented white girls.

          It’s gotten to the point where he even categorises by stay-at-home mums, based on the number of ads for school hours only service.

          Most disturbing is that when he started tracking practically no girls offer unprotected sex and now unprotected offerings (even no-holes-barred) is approaching the norm. The public health implications are staggering.

          He’s a good mate to have. A bit Aspergers, but it keeps him off 4chan.

      • Watching last night’s 7.30, Pansy Albo interview is painful. The country’s stuffed and he still can’t seem to find a position on anything.

        We’re doomed 🙁

  4. It’s articles like this that make me glad I never had kids. And given my diet and life style I expect I will be lucky to see out the next 10 years. And I’m kinda glad about that as well frankly. My family line ends with me. I’m good with that.

  5. All I remember of Labor in government was total self inflicted chaos. One issue after another.

    I’m not saying LNP’s any better but Labor is absolutely not the answer.

    • Thats because you read the Australian and watch Sky News. It is an absolutely absurd comment with no basis in truth.

      Every single major institution you see around you which benefits Australians comes from Labour – from Super to Medicare. The last ALP government brought us NBN FTTN which would have been revolutionary, NDIS, reformed education, Carbon Trading and a plethora of other innovations – Gillard passed more initiatives than any other sitting Prime Minister with a minority government.

      In three terms LNP have destroyed the NBN, NDIS, Great Barrier Reef, Murray Darling Water Scheme, etc,etc – literally nothing. While NSW LNP tears down stadiums, shuts down the cityand fails to build new ones, builds a single failed tram line – Victoria builds literally half a dozen transformational peices of infrastructure including a new underground loop. Astonishing.

      • The Australian is subscription and I don’t watch Sky.

        But I was there for that horrendous Gillard and Rudd era of BER, batts, lost boorderrs, “a bigAustralia”, cattle exports, NBN.

        Australia would be best forgetting it even happened. Labor are damaged goods and won’t be winning back trust until the cohorts that saw Gillard and Rudd in action, along with today’s numpties Wong, Plibersek, Burke, Albanese, Bowen die out.

        Most Australians I know, ex Labor voters, are angry with Labor. That’s not easy to fix.

        Like I said, LNP are no better, but Labor are absolutely not an answer for anything. They’re a fking joke that needs to be kept away from government.

        • Nup.

          I remember working in the Pilbara when Rudd/ Gillard were doing their thing. That’s when the foreign workers with low skills started turning up en mass to replace the Australians who desperately wanted those jobs. It was Rudd / Gillard who took the Howard immigration/ visa worker ball and ran hard with it.

          Then they folded on the Minersls resources tax and it was the start of the end for ALP and myself. Now they’re unrecognisably distorted and off course.

          It’s one thing to praise Labor in retrospect after their loss , but history indicates that they would have run our country down just as badly but in their own way.

          The China thing is enough.

          • The best thing for Australia is the end of the Labor party.

            They’re in the way of another party forming to oppose LNP.

          • That a half dozen million dollars determines who we vote for, who wins, and our country’s destination is insane.

          • May be insane, but it is reality.
            Either that or it is what the population truly wants.
            There are plenty of alternate parties that could replace the ALP. Why don’t they?

          • “There are plenty of alternate parties that could replace the ALP. Why don’t they?”

            Because you can’t start the institutional networks from scratch in a election cycle. Similar to the Clinton’s reforming the Dems from the inside out to a moderate urban republican based party and now Sanders attempting to do the same, this is the second cycle for him and fellow travelers.

      • Well super benefits the rich and very rich, NDIS has reduced services but made the new NDIS providers rich, education is now an export commodity that is being made worthless to cash in, Is this the education reform you are talking about?
        Yay labor, it’s awesome.

        • People i know using NDIS say it’s far worse than what they already had. Having to change providers and be constantly reassessed.

          Labor are a bad joke.

        • And LNP is?? The IPA/Rupnews stooge.

          Plenty if false equivalence here.

          I also want immjgration cut to bring back longterm average. IPA/LNP has nooo interest in reduction.

          • When has Labor said anything about immigration cut back?

            Labor’s the problem that makes immigration an issue not to be discussed.

          • The point is quite clear and yet you guys insist on arguing the toss over LNP vs ALP.

            The Govt are parasitical cvnts. All of them. They are bad news for the interests of citizens. ALP, LNP …. two sides of the same coin. The electoral system in this country is a total fit-up. No material change will ever take place while the ‘choice’ remains between Tweedle-dumbfvck and Tweedle-dumberfvck.

            Democracy is an illusion designed to dupe stupid people into thinking they real choice when they having nothing of the sort.

          • Labor; some good ideas badly implemented, mixed with terrible Globalists and Woke BS.
            LNP. Honestly doesn’t even pretend to not be corrupt anymore.
            Pick your cancer.

          • Ithink Domonic wins the prize for best descrptor of our Politics.
            Politicians should be kept well away from major decision making, ythey are not qualified.

          • They are perfectly qualified, they are poorly motivated.
            The policies introduced are having exactly the intended outcome, that outcome is just not for the benefit of the population as a whole.

          • Seems some negate that regardless of party you get the same economics over a protracted period and then squabble about management styles.

  6. The fundamental core difference between LNP and ALP is that ALP genuinely believes in governments working to benefit the lives of Australians. The LNP believes that Australia is there to be exploited for the benefit of capitalism, primarily major international and foreign corporations which are the biggest and best. There is no “Australia” in their outlook – only resources and opportunities for exploitation.

    • Some of Labor maybe. Bob Carr and his cronies in NSW definitely not. They were focused on mate$$$$ as much or more than the libs.

    • Gee, Herbert, I think you’re living in another paradigm. The Labour party you’re talking about is the Labour from the last century. The current Labour party care only about identity politics – nothing else. They would have this country over-run with 3rd world migrants (and their extended families) in a heartbeat, in the process crushing wages for all locals and pressuring the welfare system until it fails entirely.

      The problem with Left-wing parties is that they tend not to understand economics nor ‘money’ very well. If you look at their policies it becomes fairly obvious that they believe one or a combination of the following: A) money grows on trees B) companies and the wealthy are willing swallow extremely highly rates of taxation but still soldier on diligently under such a regime C) the State can do a superior job running the economy than a the private sector can and D) resources are effectively unlimited.

      • ” the State can do a superior job running the economy than a the private sector can ”
        The private sector has done a stellar job of proving they can run utilities, essential services and monopolies in a much worse way than the government used to, so maybe they are right?

        • + many.
          The best outcome would be a merger between the Far right conservative Libs and the Labor right, leaving the small L libs, left wing Labs and Greens to form another coalition.
          The Nats are dead , killed by drought, fire and Climate Change

        • You misunderstand the situation – the private sector has to run a business profitably or go bust (and the owners lose their equity investment). The State has no such constraints – it just tips unlimited taxpayer money into state-owned ventures and efficiency doesn’t matter — and nor does customer service because there is no competition. Kinda of easy to ‘run’ a business under those circumstances, no? Basically, you could put a chimpanzee in charge, because, no accountability. And when the money runs out you just bend the taxpayer over again. What’s not to love? Hardly what any sensible person would constitute ‘doing a superior job’. You’re not even comparing apples with apples, here.

          In any event, these utilities privatisations are an abortion more because of the way in which they were executed. Most of them have ended up being a bad deal for both consumer and taxpayer.

          • The privatised monopolies and utilities won’t be allowed to go bust either, tax payer money will simply be funnelled into the private companies, or private chaarges for essential services will simply continue to climb as the private “tax” collectors jack up their fees, see electricity, tolls on roads, and the annou nced broadband tax tio support nbn.

          • You must have missed the Chicago boys and their management style when they took over the USSR, not only that I find your views on money and government expenditure to be just as confusing.

          • 100%
            Same old, same old. The Govt c0cks up the privatisation, then the new owners ring the Govt up and threatens to embarrass them with insolvency, power outages, whatever, and the Govt cave and hand out more taxpayer funds to save their skins. Happens all the time – happens everywhere it’s been tried. I worked on some privatisation fundings in the UK. Same old sh*t.

          • The Chicago school and the USSR? Are you sure about that?

            That’s akin to claiming that Bikie gangs are secret trannie admirers.

            To be sure, Milton Friedman, is a monetarist but what that has to do with the USSR I am not sure.

            C’mon Skip, shape up!

  7. reusachtigeMEMBER

    What I love about the Morrison Liberal Nationalist party is that they will always protect our economy and house prices. They are great managers of stuff.

    • Angry Angus assured the parliament that neither he nor anyone from his office had anything to do with the tampered travel accounts of Clover Moores Council.
      Yeterday it is reported that a bloke in his office did have something to do with it.
      Not only is the staffer kept on , but there is no call for Angus to resign for missleading Parliament.
      Goodbye Westminster Parliamentry Democracy.

  8. Journalism got LNP elected.
    “Death tax, retiree tax, housing tax”
    2019 election was a disaster in so many ways.
    One side had well though out correcting policies, the other had a fake campaign led by an actor with no policies just lies and fear.
    Despite that journalism got the LNP elected.

  9. Black fella employed controlled burning to prevent dangerous fires for 40,000 years.
    White fella thinks controlling the weather is the solution.

  10. Scumo’s gov is the gov we had to have. We voted for it, we earned it and deserve it. Now enjoy it for rest of the 3 year period. I certainly do.
    Already had friends telling me how disappointed they are with Scumo and next time around they may not vote Libs. Working class that voted Libs – LOL. I told them in the face that Scumo literary fckd them up and that LIBS never ever had any interests to protect their rights let alone to enhance them. So I asked them why do they vote Libs? Their answer was because no one liked Shorten – they listen to stupid radio shows while driving to work and they actually believe what the radio tells them. For as long as we are this stupid and can’t think for ourselves we deserve nothing better than scum gov that we already have.
    If anything, I think we might deserve even worse Gov if there is such.. For 4 days I’ve been working with all windows closed as a result of bush fires and there are no calls to go out and organise any protest – where is the opposition? We have ministers misleading the parliament and no calls for protests – where is the opposition? Remember how Tones and the Helicopter Witch joined the rat tag “burn the witch” protest in front of the parliament? It was a protest that was calling for elimination of an elected PM. But now the opposition can’t even bring itself to call for an environmental protest to force the Gov to do something about climate change.
    I think Scumo’s Gov is very right Gov, at very right place and very right time. Now, Quiet Australians and get back to work.

    • rob barrattMEMBER

      The only difference between a Labour politician and a Liberal politician, given that they are completely alike in terms of self interest and dishonesty, is that Labour have an extra personality talent – they are supreme hypocrites. How does a Labout PM in QLD go to work for a bank? Look at the stats:
      More ALP than LNP by a country mile. Of course that’s because the LNP are much better at covering their tracks.

      I assume you could only have trusted ANY of them in your young impressionable naive years…

      Reality? Life is competive. Ask any slow and unfit Zebra in the Serengeti. Or Lion for that matter (when they get old and slow).

      As Thomas Jefferson put it (when he had spent time in France during the revolution) – the government has to fear the people.
      We don’t hang our politicians Nicola. Perhaps you could say that’s OK in a democracy. Trouble is – our media prefers to talk about where Prince XXX spent his time in a brothel. That’s why we’re where we’ve got to. That and our insistance that, because we are white Ango Saxon, we DESERVE to be comfortable. Who cares that Asians work twice as hard and are increasingly a lot better educated?

  11. The90kwbeastMEMBER

    ‘The truth is laid bare for all to see. Australia faces five critical challenges to its social and economic wellbeing today and, alas, it now abundently clear that the nation elected the wrong government to deal with any and all of them.’

    To be fair, did the LNP ever have any strategy whatsoever during their campaign other than to do nothing? We are getting what we voted for; the status quo and action on nothing.

  12. It is now becoming clearer what is happening to the economy. As private debt is peaking (net external debt of $1.2trillion) and will be difficult to service this is leading to declining consumption. The idiot politicians are now filling the void with increases in public spending to sex up the GDP figures. We will soon reach peak debt and it will reveal a ‘hollowed out’ economy.

    • Yep, it’s straight down the rabbit hole and keep on going until the inevitable Borrow, borrow, borrow, borrow …. bang.

      What now fellas?

      (We didn’t see that coming. Whocouldanode etc etc ad infinitum)

      • Sovereign Governments don’t borrow, but then you would have to understand a lot of things going back to Plaza and setting up Capital to flow like water or to crack open various nations markets.

        • Just how do sovereign governments NOT borrow when they issue bonds into the market? Is it make-believe?

          To the extent that central banks print money and buy sovereign debt I’d have some sympathy – except that the borrowing is still on the Govt’s ledger and interest still needs to be paid.

          • You can trot over to NEP and its all spelt out, government does not have to issue bonds to fund itself but it does have other economic considerations. Its not like once off the hard gold standard that it was kept on board to give capital free stuff in trade off for social stuff.

          • Skip, you’re keeping me in suspense here. I cannot trot over to NEP, sadly. I need you to spell it out for me – in plain English.

          • If you were more aware and rounded in economics you would know what it is and who staffs it, not a good look when banging of about stuff like your some kinda of authority on anything.

    • Huge differences between public, private, corporate debt, so starring at debt with monetarist optics will inevitably be rubbish in rubbish out.

      • C’mon skipster, ALL debt gets paid. Just think about that statement for a minute.

        The only question is: who gets to pay it?

          • Which debts don’t paid, then?

            I’ll put you right – using commonsense, not ideological smoke ‘n mirrors. 😉

          • “Which debts don’t paid, then?”

            Lots of debts don’t get payed, war debt has been extinguished, did you miss the Canadian credit debt extinguished by Citi of late, it happens all the time from a historical perspective. Debt is just a contract than can be modified for any reason or canceled and the so called money just goes poof.

            “I’ll put you right – using commonsense, not ideological smoke ‘n mirrors. 😉”

            Common scene is a throw away term usually used by ideologues indicating bias confirmation or environmental indoctrination, not that you might want to look up the term and understand the many variants of it and how that changes its use and meaning. The problem is there is quite of lot of things that are counter intuitive but humans have emotional connections with various beliefs regardless on any evidence contrary. See the anti vax sorts and how that is playing out in Samoa or people voting based on traditional family or local factors, its also known as path dependency – look it up.

  13. The five problems can be ameliorated or eliminated by bringing the mass Third World net immigration program down from average 250,000 a year to 50,000 a year. The present ideology is unsustainable unless you want a Third World country both economically and demographically.
    There will be no ‘brown man’ Garden of Eden for Australia.