Professor: International students “gone wild” at Aussie universities

Last month, Salvatore Babones – adjunct scholar at the Centre for Independent Studies (CIS) and an associate professor at the University of Sydney – released arguably the most definitive assessment of Australia’s international student industry ever conducted.

In this study, Babones argued strongly that Australia’s universities have far too high a concentration of international students, which is badly degrading both entry and teaching standards, as well as placing universities at dire financial risk in the event that international student flows retrace.

Arguably the most stunning data presented by Babones was Figure 2 below, which shows that Australia has roughly 2.5 times the number of international students per capita than second-placed United Kingdom, and three times the number per capita of third-placed Canada:

Australia now hosts more international students than any other major country in the world, as depicted in Figure 2. Australia leads the world by taking in 26 international students for every one it sends abroad, a ratio more than twice that of its nearest competitor, the United States (which has 14 inbound students for every outbound one)…

International student enrolments, expressed as a percentage of all students, are reported for Australia’s 37 comprehensive public universities in Figure 6.

Most Australian universities rely on international students for more than 20% of total enrolments, and all but two (the University of New England and Notre Dame) are above 10%.

In terms of actual EFTSL student hours generated, Australian universities are even more dependent on international students than the numbers reported in Figure 6 indicate, since 86.5% of international higher education students are enrolled full-time, compared to only 65.2% of domestic students.

Across the entire Australian higher education sector (including both universities and other providers), international students accounted for 28.5% of all students in 2017, but 30.4% of EFTSL.

Yesterday, Salvatore Babones tackled the international student issue again in an article published in the The Spectator Australia. Here, Babones again argued that Australia’s international student enrolments are far too high and should be roughly halved to meet best practice:

Addressing the National Press Club earlier this year in her role as chair of Universities Australia, Monash University vice-chancellor Margaret Gardner boasted that Australian universities have been ‘incredibly successful’ competitors in the international education marketplace…

Australia ranks third in the world in the number of international higher education students, trailing only the United States and the United Kingdom. Australia has more than twice as many as Canada, which has a population 50 per cent larger than Australia’s.

Measured on a per capita basis, Australia now hosts more international students than any other major country in the world. They make up 3.6 per cent of Australia’s total population, with international higher education students alone accounting for 1.5 per cent of Australia’s population.

At most of Australia’s universities, international students now account for more than 20 per cent of total enrollment. At Sydney, Melbourne, and ANU the figure is more than one-third. At the Sydney and Melbourne business schools, it’s more than two-thirds, with data not published for ANU.

No public university in the entire United States even comes close to these concentrations of international students. Only one, the University of California at San Diego, has more than half of the international student concentrations of Sydney, Melbourne, and ANU. If Australian public universities were included in an international student league table alongside American public universities, the Australians would fill all 20 slots at the top of the table and 31 of the top 33.

Which all raises the question: how much is too much?…

If the most successful American public universities are any guide, when it comes to international students, 10 per cent adds diversity to the student body, 15 per cent is the maximum reasonable level, and 20 per cent represents internationalisation gone wild. In Australia, the average level of international students across the entire university system is 26.7 per cent. By any reasonable standard, that’s too high.

Sadly, Salvatore Babones’ valid arguments will most certainly fall on deaf ears. Because slowing the flow of international students would place our universities’ entire business models at risk.

Comments

  1. Not to mention the risk to our permanent residency applications.
    Who could possibly have forecast that such a situation would come about? The above article is borderline racialist…..! Let them in, what do Uni standards mean anyway? How many properties do OZ uni students purchase? So we need the foreigners to buy the new dog boxes. It’s our right. Sell them dog boxes & PR, oh & yeh & a certificate in something from a Uni or whatever?

  2. Looks good, feels good, is good…..

    International students rise to half of Australia’s master’s enrolments
    https://www.theage.com.au/education/international-students-rise-to-half-of-australia-s-master-s-enrolments-20190910-p52psl.html

    ‘Racist’ decision bans Chinese students from running in university election
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/racist-decision-bans-chinese-students-from-running-in-university-election-20190910-p52px5.html

    International students have been banned from contesting student elections at one of Victoria’s most prestigious universities, in a move to stop a group of Chinese students seizing control of the student union.

    The ban, which the country’s peak student body called an “attack on international students”, comes as politicians and academics are increasingly concerned about Chinese Communist Party influence at Australian universities.

    Leaders of Monash University’s Caulfield campus student body last week passed a new rule that students wishing to run at next week’s election must be eligible to work 22 hours per week.

    Foreigners on student visas are not allowed to work more than 20 hours per week, meaning more than half the campus’ students are barred from running for election.

    • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

      The hardest part to comprehend about this debate is that some of the people getting most worked up about it are the very same people who vigorously support the immigration policies that have brought them all here.

      This is what we want isn’t it – diversity? This is just diversity of political thought, supposedly it will only make us stronger and more united.

      As I’ve been saying, it is too late to have these sort of conversations once these population groups are here en-mass, we are a democracy and it is their RIGHT to participate in it as they see fit.

      In Belgium and many other parts of Europe, Muslims are joining together to form political parties to implement Sharia law. Contrary to progressives beliefs all those Muslims they’ve been importing for the past 40yrs aren’t in the main liberally integrating into secular European society – the majority still believe it is more important to adhere to their cultural beliefs than the secular laws of the nations they live in….. but hey, the 600,000 Muslims we’ve imported so far into Australia will never be a problem because of our magic soil.

      https://www.euronews.com/2018/04/26/islam-party-stirs-controversy-ahead-of-belgian-elections

      But back to the Chinese, this is just about the Chinese people we’ve imported flexing their democratic rights. The only issue now is that a lot of the liberals or progressives who’ve championed bringing them here en-mass are waking up to the fact their importing values not in accordance with their own and are now taking steps to silence them – THAT IS TRUE RACISM.

      Restricting their freedom and trying to prevent their views from being heard is simply Totalitarianism – frankly it is highly hypocritical of to support Multiculturalism and then turn around and say “Hey we don’t like the illiberal cultural views we’re importing.” Too bad.

      It is these Chinese students rights to express themselves politically and remain true to their cultural values.

      Either you support Multiculturalism and the resulting political and social fracturing that it results in, or you do not. You can’t say, hey “I want this value, but I don’t want that” so suck it up, that’s not how multiculturalism works – you have to accept ALL values, and so long as you show tolerance to those phucked up values that don’t agree with your own, that’s all good.

      This is who we are now – it will take generations to repair. But hey, at least no one can call us racist (although they will, every day from now until eternity some aggrieved minority who we’ve imported will be using it against us).

        • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

          Hi Jim, it is the inevitable outcome of the policies we’ve been pursuing and as obvious as a shag on a rock.

          Too many people have been blinded by the moral conceit that our society and culture is so superior to all others, that newcomers will abandon their own cultural values to take on our own.

          Of course they’ll never see it in that frame, they’ll just consider themselves “good” people who are tolerant of others, but it is the unspoken belief in the superiority and attractiveness of our cultural values (true progressive racism and belief in their superior cultural values), that disarms them of all caution towards other peoples cultural values:

          “As I’ve been saying, it is too late to have these sort of conversations once these population groups are here en-mass, we are a democracy and it is their RIGHT to participate in it as they see fit.”

          If you are a true liberal, as opposed to a blue sky virtue signaller, then you should be fighting for the right of these Chinese students to participate in these student bodies – I dislike the idea that their values are influencing our society, it would in my opinion have been far better that they never had been allowed in, but now that they are here it is their Democratic right to participate.

          It also highlights the true outcome of Multiculturalism – it only becomes possible to sustain over the long term, through increasingly repressive and totalitarian policies.

          • “I dislike the idea that their values are influencing our society, it would in my opinion have been far better that they never had been allowed in, but now that they are here it is their Democratic right to participate.”

            -Let them eat cake.

        • Stewie you silly old cuck, you seem to forget that culture is not fixed and absolute. Rather like many things (such as your deviant, disgusting sexual preferences) it evolves over time. You cannot deny that MANY second, third, fourth generation immigrants have taken on most aspects of Australian culture. You only look at the negative, minority examples and apply that image to all immigrants. Im willing to bet you haven’t had many immigrant friends during your life and your only interaction with them is on a superficial level. Which doesn’t surprise me if your wife cucked you for some foreigner 😂

          • @Bearclaw the Chinese are here to demographically replace us and the Indian’s are here to loot and steal as much wealth as possible and then move on when there is nothing left.

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            You cannot deny that MANY second, third, fourth generation immigrants have taken on most aspects of Australian culture

            No I won’t deny that – but stand back and think about what you are saying Maggot, you are condemning the current population AND their kids, to effectively live their ENTIRE LIVES sub-optimally, for “only” 3 or 4 generations…. assuming the current mass migration ends today, as they are forced to endure the cultural and social tension of having large population groups, with competing values and beliefs, forcefully injected into their society….. for what, the hope, and it is nothing more than hope, that at some point in the far distant future they will integrate, forcefully changing (genociding) the existing culture in the process.

            It sounds very much like oppression to me.

            Your presence in my nation is an act of oppression against me and my society – I look forward to being able see it, and you, ended in the not too distant future.

          • Lol, I am certain that your feeble, limp d!icked self will perish long before I cease to exist. “Your” society’s offspring will be thankful for it, you dirty old deviant! 😂

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Lol, I am certain that your feeble, limp d!icked self will perish long before I cease to exist. “Your” society’s offspring will be thankful for it, you dirty old deviant!

            LOL – well you better get started then, the last time I checked this limp d!cked self was responsible for 5 kids, 3 of them being boys.

            Oh, and by the way….

            “The evidence for the heritability of psychological traits is immense.”

            https://quillette.com/2017/06/14/are-liberals-dying-out/

            Australia’s future is going to have far more of me and my values in it than some pin d!cked Indian mullato.

          • Lmao, three boys huh? We already know u have a fondness for little boys stewie, but your own children??!
            You dirty, old deviant!

          • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

            Yawn… with a come back like that I’m pretty sure that the natural order will eventually reassert itself.

            Yamnaya people at the top and mud men like yourself and your descendants (assuming they haven’t all been castrated) scrapping our shyt out from beneath our homes.

          • Stuie, you’re just feeble limp dick. That’s why u like to associate yourself with the main group or “tribe” – at your core you know you’re just a weak, pathetic prick that can’t stand on his own feet without the rest of his tribe to back him up.

      • “The only issue now is that a lot of the liberals or progressives who’ve championed bringing them here en-mass are waking up to the fact their importing values not in accordance with their own and are now taking steps to silence them – THAT IS TRUE RACISM.”

        The one thing you’ve got to understand about the regressive left’s attitude towards race and identity, it’s a corollary to conformity and seeking approval.

        In reality, the left treat immigrants like pets. Third worlders are good for voting in socialists who promise never ending “give-me-thats”, but as far as the pets progressing the ‘real issues’, leave that to the enlightened ones (white leftists)

        As you said, the left is indoctrinated to adhere to the magic dirt dogma, not because they have a philosophical understanding and approval of it, it’s just that everyone else is doing it, so they will too. It’s a nice starting point to ones activism, and even militancy. When whites walk off the plantation for example, it’s time to dog pile on them and destroy their career, their social links, etc. When vibrant communities vote no for same sex marriage…. well that’s OK, they’re backwards and they don’t know any better. The ban at Monash is this sentiment too.

        Likewise, if Sydney’s Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras wanted to resume any relevance as a genuine pride and counter-protest movement, they’d hold it in Lakemba.

        Now why the magic dirt premise? The war on white people has taken form that they are responsible for all the world’s evil, there is a culpability there due to wrong-think and once we correct that (to never return) all the worlds problems will go away. White guilt is when white people internalise this sentiment. Also, fixing that is not just hounding it out of existence from deplorables, but perpetually demonstrating one’s awareness and action against wrong think. “Look at my explicit views !!! That’s not me, I have corrected my thinking”.. we now know this as virtue signalling. The more ‘correct’ signals expressed, the more virtuous that person is.

        It is the basis of seeking attention, and then the feedback of ‘we approve of your views’. An intoxicating combination in today’s disconnected world, more so as social dysfunction is a hallmark if left leaning people

        • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

          Costless virtue signalling by elites as they compete with each other to gain the status currency of ever greater virtue over those they look down on and despise, i.e. the poor and unfortunate in OUR society, who they would rather condemn as racists than help.

          Progressive bigotry and class warfare.

  3. Talk about the Emperor’s new clothes — literally there is nothing to our economy except dirt and slum labor ..

    Oh, and a parasitical rentier class milking pennies from a slowly drowning working/middle class.

  4. I might be wrong but as far as I can tell no-one has asked the real question:

    why is the CIS running so hard on this issue.

    And please don’t tell me it has anything to do with the national interest.

    The CIS has cautiously with Howard in the first Hanson era of the late 90’s then pivoted to pro immigration when Johnny opened the floodgates. It would appear that they are moving against Liberal policy. Or is it their job to condition the public to a large cut in student numbers and a massive cut to uni spending?

    Unfortunately if uni spending got cut the academics and researchers would all go and the admin and social justice lot would remain.

  5. Hilariously ironic, the Universities ask their contractors to abide by the Modern Slavery Act and ensure their supply chain does to, yet the Unis are responsible for bringing in so many foreigners who are here to work for slave wages and get residency

  6. The universities were too busy counting their money to look outside to see what was happening with the Chinese and brothels. What was once an Australian industry with a few Lebanese around hiring Australians is now a Chinese-dominated industry offering no condoms and $50 sex. Perhaps the unis are now waking up. All the universities have open days on now. Easily 8 out of 10 who attended were not of your classic Australian appearance….so why do we complain when they are about to dominate student councils? The trouble with it is they all stick together and mainly don’t want the classic Australian part of their hub, where as we encourage inclusion as do university policies. Interesting that Australians are finally fighting back.

    • “The trouble with it is they all stick together and mainly don’t want the classic Australian part of their hub,”

      Trouble for whom? Not them. This was entirely predictable.

      “where as we encourage inclusion as do university policies.”

      Try asserting straight pride, white male pride, opposition to gay marriage or relaxation of gun laws and see how inclusive university is. There is an open, explicit and endorsed oppression of ‘deplorables’.

      Proponents of free speech have been against it, and vilification has come their way too. You allow oppression in one place, it will always move to another place.

      It is why free speech needs to elevated above ‘offence’ in ALL cases.

  7. The Chinese are exploiting the liberal immigration policies of AUS, CAN and NZ to colonise the strategic coastal cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland and Vancouver so as to deny these cities as anchorages and bases for USN operations in the Pacific Ocean. They’ve achieved this in Australia and NZ by exploiting the unregulated student visa program. The Chinese Govt are funding the operation of Chinese owned and managed private colleges which exclusively enrol and employ Chinese, they’re creating a parallel society and these colleges will not only allow China to colonise Australia and NZ by stealth, they will also allow it to create a parallel society that is self-sufficient in all the services for such a society to function. To give you an example of how far China has infiltrated Australian society, the Victorian State Govt to which Melbourne is the capital city, has just signed onto the One-Belt One-Road initiative in complete defiance of the Federal Govt.

    • “The Chinese are exploiting the liberal immigration policies of AUS, CAN and NZ to colonise the strategic coastal cities of Sydney, Melbourne, Auckland and Vancouver so as to deny these cities as anchorages and bases for USN operations in the Pacific Ocean”

      ?? …

      ??????

      The US Navy would need a west coast base in Vancouver would they?

      The port’s of Melbourne and Auckland are strategically positioned are they??

      This really doesn’t make any sense.

      • Auckland is one of the finest harbours in the world and so is Vancouver, in fact Chinese make up 43% of the population of Vancouver. These are all major population centres and Melbourne is the largest container port in the Southern Hemisphere and also has facilities to host the USN and the same applies to Auckland, in fact, controlling Auckland will allow Chinese control of the South Pacific.

  8. I suspect soon to be FORMER adjunct scholar at the Centre for Independent Studies (CIS) and an associate professor at the University of Sydney

  9. This is great. Non citizens shouldn’t get to vote. On anything. Because this is our country, not theirs. They are temporary guests. They should conduct their business then fcuk off back to their sh1tholes.