More Chinese international student aggression

Over recent weeks, Chinese international students have been involved in incidents suppressing pro-Hong Kong protests.

Late last month, violence erupted at the University of Queensland when a group of Hong Kong secessionist protestors were attacked by Chinese nationalist students. Hong Kong students were assaulted and reportedly subjected to further harassment and intimidation in the days following.

Auckland University experienced similar incidents of intimidation.

In both cases, the Chinese consulate general praised the actions of the perpetrators as “patriotic” for opposing any form of secessionism.

This endorsement from the Chinese consulates general appears to have prompted further acts of aggression from mainland Chinese international students.

Yesterday, The Guardian reported that four masked men destroyed the Hong Kong Lennon wall at the University of Queensland, which had attracted hundreds of notes calling for democracy and solidarity with Hong Kong, and opposing the totalitarianism of the Chinese government:

“We had someone see it around 11pm and it was fine,” he said. “We got reports around midnight that four guys in masks came and just tore everything apart. We have them on the footage. The CCTV got them…

Tension has also flared around other Lennon walls on Australian university campuses.

At the University of Tasmania, a staff member had to intervene on Tuesday to stop a student tearing down pro-Hong Kong posters, according to the ABC. A similar incident took place last week.

The same occurred at the University of Auckland:

The University of Auckland told Newshub three men “were seen ripping the posters off the walls before running towards Princes St with them” on Tuesday night.

“Security attended and spoke with a witness but we don’t have any information about them or where they are from at this stage.”

Newshub has been told the three individuals were Chinese and from other universities.

Vancouver’s Simon Fraser University also had its Hong Kong Lennon wall vandalised by Chinese students:

The student society at a Canadian university has voted to stand up to “bullying” and “harassment” in which a “Lennon Wall” of messages supporting Hong Kong protesters was repeatedly trashed, announcing it will install a mobile version of the wall on wheels to thwart the vandals.

A video posted on YouTube on Wednesday shows a Mandarin-speaking young man methodically ripping apart the wall at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia as someone pleads for him to stop.

Meanwhile, a 100-strong rally held on Tuesday at the University of Auckland, organised in support of anti-government protesters in Hong Kong, was also interrupted by a nationalist Chinese supporter.

Also today, Domain reports this:

Chinese authorities approached the family of an international student who participated in high-profile protests at an Australian university and warned his parents of the potential consequences of political dissent.

The apparent intimidation tactics suggest the Chinese government was monitoring the demonstration at the University of Queensland to record who attended, in a development one influential Liberal MP said was alarming.

The student took part in last month’s event to show support for pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong and to condemn Beijing’s repression of the Uighur ethnic minority group.

“I was in the protest. When people were recording I was doing my best to hide my face or stay away from the crowd,” the student, who did not want to be identified for fear of repercussions, told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.

To its credit, the New Zealand Government has raised formal objections with the Chinese Government for endorsing aggression against peaceful Hong Kong protesters:

The Government has rebuked China over its recent comments and actions where it sought to suppress freedom of speech and voiced support for violent opposition to Hong Kong protesters in New Zealand.

On Monday, Ministry of Foreign Affairs officials met with Chinese Government representatives in New Zealand to reiterate that freedom of expression would be upheld and maintained, which included on university campuses…

On Tuesday, Ardern confirmed MFAT reiterated the New Zealand’s position on freedom of speech, particularly on university campuses.

“We guard that, that is part of who we are. And I think it is important for those that may take a different view that we are very clear on our expectations.”

MFAT also raised concerns about recent statements from Chinese officials that suggested pro-Hong Kong protests should not occur, and that violence in protest would be justified.

Australia’s educational institutions now domicile more than 200,000 Chinese students, as well as many China-backed Confucius Institute on university campuses.

It’s time Australia follow the New Zealand example and lay out the ground rules for acceptable democratic behaviour for our guests, including diplomatic staff.

With the situation in Hong Kong deteriorating by the day, worsening conflicts on Australian campuses are an obvious risk.

Comments

    • GunnamattaMEMBER

      The really disturbing thing is that the actions of the Chinese consulates certainly give the appearance of ‘State’ approval – the Chinese State.  At a straight legal level that is a State approving actions within another jurisdiction – which implies a sovereignty or suzerainty issue.  Is China suggesting that?  How would China react to foreign embassies or consulates in China issuing statements of support for their nationals undertaking activities which potentially broke Chinese law (eg in Support of Xinjian or Tibet civil liberties)? – Almost certainly those consulates would be shuttered.   

      It really would be befitting for the Chinese government and Chinese consulates to openly state that their citizens in Australia (or Canada, or NZ or wherever) should comply with Australian laws, and should not participate in activities which have potential to damage property, or infringe on the civil liberties of other nationals exercising their right to freedom of thought and expression whilein Australia.

      And if they don’t do that then I would posit it is

      1.       Time to send back to China anybody found to have transgressed Australian property or civil liberty laws in the interest of a state other than Australia
      2.       Time to ensure that all people coming to Australia to study (in particular) sign somehting ( an oath maybe) to the effect that they recognise Australian sovereignty in Australia, that they recognise that Chinese sovereignty does not apply while they are in Australian jurisdiction, that they will be sent back home if they transgress Australian civil liberties or property laws for relatively minor offences (or given some slammer time for major offences).
      3. Time to ask all nationals buying Australian apartments to sign a similar declaration or oath – and impose a fine worth five years of rate payments for those who havent done so within a year of the requirement being introduced, and asset forfeiture for those who havent done so within 10 years.

      • Forrest GumpMEMBER

        It’s time Australia follow the New Zealand example and lay out the ground rules for acceptable democratic behaviour for our guests, including diplomatic staff.

        The Australian Government’s Official Position is:

        1: Provide immediate assistance to those affected by granting them a Home buying Visa which can be redeemed at any Australian Major City.

        2. In a show of solidarity to mainland Chinese that are affected by these terrible events, the Australian Government will allow the family of any student studying in Australia, 1 (one) Home Buying Visa for each family member over the age of 16 of which can be redeemed at any Real Estate office in any of our capital cities.

      • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

        Eventually everyone will come around to seeing the benefits of in pursuing Integration and Assimilation in order to foster a single nation identity and culture… pity it will come too late to avert the sort of damage that that we are only seeing the leading edge of today.

        There is are no hyphens in national identity.

      • Australian Sovereignty: that’s a joke right!
        Surely our Sovereignty has always been in reality Suzerainty.
        Has there ever been a true period of Aussie self determination? (oh wait a minute….I know the answer…but let me check with the boss and read the company rules) kinda sums up Aussie Sovereignty, least ways in my mind.
        This is China’s century, I imagine we’ll get very good at resolving such dilemmas as Suzerainty vs Sovereignty, as is the nature of all Realpolitik.
        OR maybe we’ll discover real Sovereignty, but are Aussies really ready for the responsibility that comes with Sovereignty?

      • completely agree but can you imagine the Uni’s and Aus sending them back OMG the outrage haha

  1. Complex Carbon Unit

    The angry bull ants are at it again, crush them and get out the super strong ant killer !…

  2. Poor Hong Kong people. The justice system in China is much like the nationalists’ conduct.

  3. david collyerMEMBER

    We have witnessed China flip effortlessly from communist to fascist, while the foundation stone of totalitarianism remains unchanged.

    It is incumbent on tolerant people to be intolerant of intolerance. Deport the communist agitprops. No explanation required.

  4. reusachtigeMEMBER

    If it’s called a Lennon wall then of course that commie sh1t needs to be torn down so as to protect our freedoms!

    • China PlateMEMBER

      You may say I’m a dreamer but I could not imagine any other comment from you Reus

  5. As Janis once sang

    Freedom’s just another word for nothin’ left to lose
    Nothin’, don’t mean nothin’ hon’ if it ain’t free, no no

    This is the underlying dilemma faced by all in China, HK is just the pointy end of change.

      • Aren’t both songs expressing exactly the same Freedom / Responsibility paradox?
        One westerner sees Libertarianism as Freedom while the next equates Liberalism to Freedom, how can both be correct?
        From an Eastern perspective Confucianism and Neo-Confucianism have very different views on Freedom and that’s before you even descend into worm-hole of Freedom in the context of Filial piety. For a lesson in Historical perspective crack open a book on Aristotle and try to wrap your head around the concept of the “Freedom of Slaves”.
        In the end it’s all about Zen.

      • I’ve lived by that very motto. It means I’ve had to drop my standards on numerous occasions but it’s all been worth it.

  6. SnappedUpSavvyMEMBER

    If they re so pro chyna why study overseas and then want to stay on …..permanently

    The other thing with Chinese students is they are very unworldly and really do believe in unicorns and that the ccp will care for them ….

    • Well the way our gov’t gives out benefits, we look after them a hole lot better than the commies.

  7. And then you have pro-China students rebuking this on social media that they also have the right to exercise “freedom of speech” to tear down the lennon wall and disrupt other people’s protests/messages.

    Regardless, they know that they are supported by the CCP and am not afraid to continue to disrupt the protests knowing that the local governments will not have the guts to prevent them from doing so. Meanwhile, the Chinese diplomats can simply use “fear” tactic by warning them they will be identified and will suffer severe consequences back at home if they continue to support the protesters. There are nothing the domestic government can do because there is no evidence that they are actually doing it and even if they do it, they will argue this is an internal matter and tell us to butt out.

    Time to kick them out.

    • ChinajimMEMBER

      Yeah there understanding of “freedom of speech” and “rule of law” is about the level of the kindergarten playground, perhaps because they have neither in their homeland.

  8. I don’t want to sound like an extremist or anything, but I reckon a quick touch up with belt fed automatic weapons would sort ’em out and send the survivors back to their studies real quick.

    One can only dream.

    • Sorry, but can’t let that comment stand without challenge.

      Yes LS, it is extreme. And a stupid comment.

      • You think so? It’s what the Tiananmen protestors got, and what the Hong Kong protestors are gonna get in a few weeks time, and I have no doubt it’s what these people and their murderous masters would unhesitatingly do to anybody who opposes them if they could.

        These “students” are hostile invaders, and they should be treated as invaders. Yeah…shooting them is obviously unpossible, so perhaps rounding them up and shipping them home en masse would do the trick.

        Unfortunately, neither is gonna happen, and we’re all gonna suffer as a result.

    • So, to support the HK protestors you’re proposing the Australian government acts in the manner of the Chinese government that they are protesting against. What a daft idea.

  9. Posted before, but relevant to this topic..

    1.361 million Chinese mainland born communists onshore in Australia.

    1.213 million or 89% – 4 of every 5 of these Chinese are are onshore as non Australian Chinese Nationals on Chinese passports.

    -/-

    ▫️238,000 Chinese mainland born communists as citizen grants/ Australia passports / their old, sick, useless & the hard core communists & poltical fixers and lobbyists – as the first wave of the ‘South Guangzhou’ colonisation of Australia.
    Many here a decade or more, no assimilation, no English, Chinese only enclaves.
    A healthcare & welfare burden.
    And a highly corrosive political and societal risk to all Australians.

    ▫️483,000 as Chinese Nationals on Chinese passports but granted PR – the old, sick, useless misfit Hukuo underclass – petty criminals & lowlife trafficked in by the Chinese government and Chinese criminal syndicates as part of the 5 year plan in cleansing out the Chinese tier 1 cities – to be our welfare & Medicare burden.
    No English no assimilation, no pretence of a contribution, exported by the racist national socialist Chinese fascist regime as 🇨🇳China First communist colonists, exploiting Australia borders & visa controls.
    They remain on Chinese National passports, buy or bribe influence politically.
    The main conduit for the Chinese criminal syndicates to use as mules to launder in the tens of billions of Chinese dirty money in acquiring hundred of thousands of Australian modest established dwellings (PR / no FIRB check) to convert into migrant guestworker only bunk share, cash in hand, no tax paid, plus claim negative gearing.
    Extensive welfare & Medicare fraud plus blackmarket & vice activities in Australia.
    A massive social, healthcare & welfare burden.

    ▫️340,000 TR (of the 1.8 million TR) Chinese mainland born communists on Chinese passports as fake students or partners, fake skilled, fake regional, fake whatever visas – also the Hukou underclass expelled from the Chinese tier 1 cities & trafficked in to work illegally or in vice.
    A massive social and economic burden.

    ▫️130,000 Chinese mainland born communists as NZ SCV (of 696,000) trafficked in via the NZ SCV passport stamp loophole, NZ being one of the ‘stepping stone’ routes to get into Australia.
    Another social & economic burden.

    ▫️Another 150,000 or more Chinese mainland born communists on Chinese passports as illegally working & living tourist & visitor visa holders. (Of 440,000 or 5% of the 8.8 million Chinese Indian etc so called tourist visitors working illegally- Aust Parliamentary submission) Long stay & repeat stay.
    A social and economic burden.

    ▫️Plus at least 20,000 Chinese mainland born communists as overstayers. (Of 65,000), same.

    -/-

    => That’s 1.36 million Chinese mainland born communists in Australia.

    Of which over 1.1 million are non Australian citizens as Chinese 🇨🇳China First🇨🇳mainland born communists.

    90% or 1.2 million Chinese mainland born communists in just 2 cities – Sydney & Melbourne, in vast Chinese only non assimilated slums.

    Of which at least 1 million who should never have been allowed in. Old, sick, fake ID, fake health, corrupt, petty criminals, misfits, social undesirables, vice workers, mules for money laundering – China First / Han Chinese racist communists.

    These Chinese destroy jobs, wages, housing, education, our infrastructure, social amenity, the environment, congestion & overload our water & electricity.

    They are the epi-centre of foreign run criminal activities in vice, drugs. crime, money laundering & black market.

    They corrupt our politicians and have no loyalty to Australia, only China. Highly racist, intolerant of anything but Han Chinese Nationalism & empire as China First colonists in Australia.

    They are a social, economic, political & security threat to all Australians.

    Time to get the internment & deportation camps ready.

    • You are right (and Hastie is right), but the self-hating progressives and blinkered neo-liberal economic cowards have stymied any prospect of discussion about this issue. It beggars belief just how easily one self-interested generation of Australians gifted the Chinese strategic influence over our country.

  10. Do these actions by Chinese students offset their poor social credit scores given that their parent’s laundered money in the West?

    • Almost all of these Chinese foreign students and other visa categories are the Hukuo* underclass.
      * Hukuo – Chinese internal pass control.

      The current Chinese 5 year plan is to shift 100 million Hukuo 2nd generation peasantry, criminals, vice workers, low life etc from their tier 1 cities (hence the ghost cities built & internal roads & infrastructure). It’s core 5 year plan policy.

      That failed & China fearing internal unrest & rebellion colluded with the Chinese foreign criminal syndicates to instead ‘export’ this Hukuo underclass to the rest of Asia, Africa, the Middle East and the west.

      Particularly to UK, US, Europe until they hardened their borders. Then Canada until the same.
      And Australia & New Zealand as stepping stone into Australia.

      9.3 million of the Chinese Hukuo underclass have been trafficked out.

      Australia has 1.3 million of them – the vast majority are PR or TR. Not the best & brightest. Not the deserving or useful. We get the highly filtered absolute trash and criminal class of the old, sick, useless, misfits, socially undesirable, end of life vice wirkees and hardened criminals that China can’t get rid off or dump anywhere else.

      $2k in Guangzhou China today buys an Australian PR with free Australian Medicare & Centrelink for a diseased old hep & TB ridden Hukuo factory worker, or a tattooed up Chinese sex worker or criminal pimp to enter as a student (to work in vice or continue as the pimp partner).

      Fake papers, fake ID, fake ages, fake health checks, fake everything.

      It’s an industry production line – an conveyor belt of the Hukuo Chinese Hukuo underclass from their slums in China into the same Chinese slums in Sydney & Melbourne.

      The Chinese government actively collaborating with the Chinese criminal syndicates to export and dump this Chinese detritus into the naive & stupid western countries in both Chinese colonisation, and to dump that toxic lowlife burden onto foreign countries welfare & healthcare.

      By the numbers:

      1.361 million Chinese mainland born communists onshore in Australia.
      1.213 million as non Australian Chinese Nationals on Chinese passports.

      -/-

      ▫️238,000 Chinese mainland born communists as citizen grants/ Australia passports / their old, sick, useless & the hard core communists as the first wave of the ‘South Guangzhou’ colonisation of Australia. Many here a decade or more, no assimilation, no English, Chinese only enclaves.
      A social, healthcare & welfare burden.

      ▫️483,000 as Chinese Nationals on Chinese passports but granted PR – the old, sick, useless misfit Hukuo underclass exported from the Chinese tier 1 cities to be our welfare & Medicare burden. No English no assimilation, no pretence of a contribution, only here to steal as China First communist colonists.
      A massive social, healthcare & welfare burden.

      ▫️340,000 TR (of the 1.8 million TR) Chinese mainland born communists on Chinese passports as fake students or partners, fake skilled, fake regional, fake whatever visas – also the Hukou underclass trafficked in to work illegally or in vice. A massive social and economic burden.

      ▫️130,000 Chinese mainland born communists as NZ SCV (of 696,000) trafficked in via the NZ SCV passport stamp loophole, NZ being one of the ‘stepping stone’ routes to get into Australia. Another social & economic burden.

      ▫️Another 150,000 or more Chinese mainland born communists on Chinese passports as illegally working & living tourist & visitor visa holders. (Of 440,000 or 5% of the 8.8 million Chinese Indian etc so called tourist visitors working illegally- Aust Parliamentary submission) Long stay & repeat stay.
      A social and economic burden.

      ▫️Plus at least 20,000 Chinese mainland born communists as overstayers. (Of 65,000), same.

      -/-

      => That’s 1.36 million Chinese mainland born communists in Australia of which over 1.1 million are non Australian citizens as Chinese 🇨🇳China First🇨🇳mainland born communists.

      90% or 1.2 million Chinese mainland born communists in just 2 cities – Sydney & Melbourne, in vast Chinese only non assimilated slums.

      Of which at least 1 million who should never have been allowed in.

      These Chinese destroy jobs, wages, housing, education, our infrastructure, social amenity, the environment, congestion & overload our water & electricity.

      They are the epi-centre of foreign run criminal activities in vice, drugs. crime, money laundering & black market. They corrupt our politicians and have no loyalty to Australia, only China.

      They are a social, economic, political & security threat to all Australians.

      Time to get the internment & deportation camps ready.