US bans Huawei as “five eyes” reel

Via Bloomie:

Donald Trump ratcheted up his battle with China for dominance of 5G technology networks, moving to curb Huawei Technologies Co.’s access to the U.S. market and American suppliers.

The president signed an order Wednesday that’s expected to restrict Huawei and fellow Chinese telecommunications company ZTE Corp. from selling their equipment in the U.S. Shortly afterward, the Department of Commerce said it had put Huawei on a blacklist that could forbid it from doing business with American companies.

The pair of actions risk aggravating Beijing as the president seeks to pressure China’s leaders into agreeing to a wide-ranging trade deal with the U.S. Trump has threatened to impose tariffs on almost all imports from China after last week hiking duties on some $200 billion in Chinese products.

And Reuters:

U.S. officials told Reuters the decision would also make it difficult if not impossible for Huawei, the largest telecommunications equipment producer in the world, to sell some products because of its reliance on U.S. suppliers.

Under the order that will take effect in the coming days, Huawei will need a U.S. government license to buy American technology. Huawei did not immediately comment.

Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross said in a statement President Donald Trump backed the decision that will “prevent American technology from being used by foreign owned entities in ways that potentially undermine U.S. national security or foreign policy interests.”

And ASPI’s Peter Jennings on the UK going rogue:

China’s plan to destroy the “five eyes” intelligence network and split Western allies going swimmingly thanks to the UK.


  1. Since Reusa is not here I’m gonna say “This is an attack on free trade and the liberal principles of the world’s largest free market economy!!”

    • I am sure the US economy is not losing sleep over this….. its booming along. Most Americans with brains are enjoying putting China in their place…..

    • billriskasMEMBER

      Did Reusa get banned from MB.? I have not seen his smart arse funny comments for a while or he has been exiled to China?

  2. The same UK whose intelligence asset Christopher Steele was behind the unverified and salacious dossier used by the corrupt FBI leaders from the last administration as pretext to start the Trump Russia hoax probe. With friends like these who needs enemies.

    • With the small proviso that nothing in the dossier has been disproved. It still rates as a pretty competent assessment.

    • Torchwood1979

      Xi has been very effective at playing the long game. He’s perfected the art of divide and conquer within the CCP and will ensure China does everything it can to break up any international bloc of resistance.

  3. The UK has prior form on technology deals with communist states. The US has never really forgiven or forgotten the UK sale of Rolls-Royce Nene jet engines to the Soviet Union in 1947 for peaceful purposes which were promptly reversed engineered and derivatives were installed into Mig Fighters which were then used against the US in the Korean Wars.
    Come to think of it, Australia sold the Chinese an aircraft carrier which was studied for many years by Chinese naval architects before being broken up so the US should be rightfully wary of us!

    • I’m laughing so hard, my stomach aches! The Melbourne was first floated right at the end of WW2 and was sold off in ’82, near on 40 yrs old while also disregarding the year it was designed.

    • Seriously, a 45 yr old design aided them? About as useful as a spitfire or P51 would be for designing a modern fighter. The ship would have been stripped of all its catapult systems, radar etc. or any updates to it’s infrastructure. The only help would be the actual design of the internal structure etc and I doubt that would have been difficult to overcome.

      Edit: Well, not the catapult or approach mirror guidance, but obviously not considered too important.

      • Yes, but when you have not built a carrier before or lack plans for one, the sale was a godsend for the PLAN. They even had the hide to come back later and ask the Australian navy for detail drawings and operation manuals of the steam catapults.
        At the time of sale to the Chinese, the US Navy was stunned by the sale, the US military would have gladly given Australia the scrap value of the ship in exchange for US military hardware, we stunned the Americans again with the sale of the Port of Darwin. – I’ll have to find the link for the US Navy response to the Melbourne sale as it was talked about in amusement (amusement regarding the judgement of theAustralian naval top brass and government at the time) when I worked in the drawing office down at Garden Island in Sydney.
        It took the Chinese over 8 years to dismantle the Melbourne, when a commercial scrapper in India could have had it broken up in around 6 months. Every bit was inspected before put thru the scrap shredder.

    • Thallus,

      I have no doubt they were interested in it, but whether a 45yr + design was of any help to them is another question. I didn’t see Australia using the Oberon submarine as a means to design it’s replacement (the Collins) or using the Collins to design its replacement.

      I’d suggest that maybe it could also have been a hinderance, using 45+ yr old design thinking where off a clean slate without any preconditioning, you could come up with a much better result.

  4. A Chinese company asserting it would not comply with Chinese law does not have a shred of cred.

    The UK going rogue? While exiting the EU? I don’t think so. They need their Five Eyes cousins more than ever

    Elsewhere, SCS, did y’all notice the Phillipines Supreme Court ordered Duterte to enforce the country’s 200km Exclusive Economic Zone against Chinese island building and fishing.

    • Agree. UK will need 5eyes to retain any semblance of being a world power. Besides as I understand it they have only given the OK to Huawei to supply non core components eg dumb antennas, so very hard to use them against UK & much more obvious if Huawei try any alterations.

      And good link, that should lead to more push back.

  5. ChristopherJMEMBER

    The Chinese should retaliate with Apple, Cisco, Intel and other companies that do well out of China

      • ChristopherJMEMBER

        Thanks Zulu, going to be interesting how this plays out in the financial markets.

        And, it’s not as if those companies aren’t listening to everything they can in China and assisting the US intel machine where they can. I mean it’s the patriotic, American way, eh?

    • You have to wonder why they haven’t already. It would be a logical retaliation.
      I mean can you imagine China arresting the Apple CFO?
      China has been much more restrained than I would have thought

  6. Jevons ghostMEMBER

    One thing puzzles me. Why exactly do we need this 5G technology? Seems to me it’s something that we could do without. Antennae every 200 metres? Tell me it isn’t so.

    • ChristopherJMEMBER

      It’s so the Youtube and Netflix and … can broadcast in premium 8k, mostly to small screens that would be fine in 1080p

      • Jevons ghostMEMBER

        Oh. Well that’s all right then. Silly me, getting all het up about nothing.