Incoherent Albo vows to fight for nothing

Via The Australian comes Albo, new Labor leader in waiting:

“The language used was terrible … unions and employers have a common interest. Successful businesses are a precondition for employing more workers, and that is obvious.”

“There are common interests that are there … and if elected I would look for solutions, not arguments. We have to articulate a ­vision for how we increase wealth and not just share wealth.

“The core of Labor’s agenda has been job creation and we need to do that in the context of a global economy that is vulnerable and a changing domestic economy that is going through transition. We need to be able to explain how government can ensure change is in the interest of working people.”

“All of our policies need to be looked at … but not our values,” Mr Albanese said.

…Despite once famously describing his political mission in life as “fighting Tories”, Mr Albanese said his membership of the Left faction had no bearing on what ­direction he would take the party.

…He gave an unequivocal commitment to steer the party back to the policy centre, which had provided the ballast for 13 years of Labor government under Bob Hawke and Paul Keating.

Keating and Hawke both just endorsed Bill Shorten as their reform torch bearers and all three got their arses handed to them.

This is incoherent.

Meanwhile, arguably Labor’s biggest electoral liability, Sally McManus has no idea, either:

“We’ve got to look to our purpose – our purpose as unions is to change workers’ lives through collective action, we are not the campaigning arm of the ALP.”

So says Tim Kennedy, the National Union of Workers national secretary, one of a number of union officials and thought-leaders questioning whether the Australian Council of Trade Union’s estimated $25m spend on the election was worth it.

But the ACTU secretary, Sally McManus, has defended the campaign, arguing that working people can’t pass up the opportunity to fight elections and change laws she says are stacked against working people.

McManus blames two factors for the shock loss: Clive Palmer’s big ad spend and a subterranean social media campaign falsely claiming Labor would introduce a death tax.

Clive Palmer certainly had an impact in channeling the pro-change vote straight back into the Coalition. But I humbly suggest that the reality of Labor’s 2 million aged Chinese visas was more a problem than a death tax lie.

Therein lies the challenge for both Albo and Sally “you’re racist” McManus. They need somehow to get more nationalist to recapture QLD yet they aren’t the types, to the bone.

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  1. Still no emergence of the left wing anti immigration leader (eg: like in Denmark) –

    🔻jobs for Australians, job tenure & wages,
    🔻education not prostituted as a visa alibi,
    🔻the acute housing crisis & homelessness,
    🔻congestion, crush load on hospitals & services,
    🔻wasteful & unneeded infrastructure projects,
    🔻the environmental impact of a 2.5 million migrant guestworker burden choking out two major cities,.
    🔻The Royal Commission on our broken borders & mass scale systemic visa fraud.

    All of which is needed to addressed as a shift in stance and ideology – if the Labor party is ever to be relevant choice to the Australian people.

    • It will never be relevant ever again. It will be the tory party that will adapt just like in the US.

      I prefer Boobs Shorten to Albo and McManus.

    • DominicMEMBER

      Ric was right. Labour are f*ken unelectable. Literally light years away from power so far do they have their heads up their collective ar$eholes.

  2. I am enjoying watching Labor squirm and suffer. The irony of it all. Less than a month a go the Liberal Party was being discussed as becoming irrelevant.

    That Sally Mcimmigration. Personality plus. Just like Shorten. So inspirational.

    • I wonder how the election result affects Sallys ascension into politics. Must have been a tough phone call to make.

    • But, but, but…you can’t say that! It’s violence against a gay woman who has 1000 free identity kicks. To hell with competence, reality, consequences etc. My guess is that she’s incredibly popular in QLD and WA among workers who can instantly scoff the mixed drink of mass immigration and a PC labour movement rhetoric, selling them down the river on an ideological wank-fest.

  3. Ronin8317MEMBER

    There are 7 stages of grief. The ALP is still in denial, and may remain in denial until the next election. Then they can start the griefing process again.

    • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

      At least they won’t be alone in their denial, 90% of Australia’s press will be right along side them denying that their progressive values are in any way culpable for their failure to connect with the majority.

      • “progressive values are in any way culpable for their failure ”
        You have to be really brave to think that Straya is progressive ….out of the last 24 years, the progressives won only 1majority government elections back in 2007, yes I do not believe 2010 minority government was a win.

        Compared to many other western societies that swung between centre left and centre right in the last 25-30 years (New Zealand, Canada, Germany, France, Scandanavia, even the US)…it is considered fantasy to call the masses here “Progressives”.

        I repeat again..”Australia is the most conservative among the western nations” and past elections backs my observations.

        I guess the diminishing centre left in Straya is almost paving it to more of a 1 party system and not even the 2 parties system we used to whinge about.


      • re crash:
        I am totally convinced that this voting pattern, ie getting people on zero to low to lower middle incomes to vote for LNP is for no other reason than the very effective propaganda agenda of the LNP and the majority of the media working on their behalf. If for instance the election information people were to receive all with correct figures as to who is going to benefit and who is going to get a life time punishment then it would be otherwise.. ie people are voting against their own real needs and their childrens needs in favour of filling the pockets of their own landlords, the mega rich, the bankers and all the businesses that offshore their tax obligations. They are also in the process voting for their own financial, health and social demise, to be pushed into a very second class quality of life in order to fill the petty wants of the 1%ers

    • innocent bystander

      and everyone knows you shouldn’t make big decisions you will regret when still grieving

    • DominicMEMBER

      If you can’t diagnose the problem then how can you hope to cure it. Labor’s present cohort do not have the wit to see what the issue is.

  4. Article in Newcastle herald (Hunter Valley, NSW)

    Are coal miners still blue-collar?
    Damon Cronshaw
    Local News
    On Strike: Supporters of coal miners marching through Newcastle streets to Trades Hall in July 1949.
    On Strike: Supporters of coal miners marching through Newcastle streets to Trades Hall in July 1949.
    Cessnock may have gained national attention this week for its One Nation vote, but many years ago it was the Communist Party that held sway in the area.

    So says Brian Lout from Cessnock, who contacted us after we compared Hunter MP Joel Fitzgibbon’s comments about having a crack at the Labor leadership to the cult TV series Game of Thrones.

    We’d written that Fitzy had “copped a dagger to the midriff from Pauline Hanson’s One Nation” and that coal miners out Cessnock-way have had a gutful.

    The narrative to emerge from the election result in the Hunter Valley was that coal miners weren’t happy about Labor’s policy on climate change. They were worried about their livelihoods.

    Fitzy said on Monday that Labor needs to “re-engage with our blue-collar base and put more focus on regional and rural Australia”.

    But Brian – who was a Labor Party member for about 20 years – questioned whether coal miners, in particular, could still be defined as “blue-collar”.

    He reckoned that “coal miners today aren’t like coal miners in decades past”.

    “The vast majority who work in the coal industry today work in open-cuts,” he said.

    “Instead of being working class, I call them the working bourgeoisie. They ride around in salary-sacrificed four-wheel drives and send their kids to private school. To me, they are not working class.”

    Topics: “So they’re not really blue collar? Well, they’re definitely not white collar. We’re trying to think about an in-between collar. Are they more purple collar?

    Brian: “Well they’re not red, we can say that. Coal miners used to be the doyen of the working class, quite militant. In fact, during Cessnock’s history, it used to be referred to as the Red Shire”.

    “In the period between 1944 and 1947, Cessnock or the Kearsley Shire was controlled by the Communist Party. The Communists had a majority on the Kearsley Shire.

    “I know we talk of Joy Cummings being the first lady mayoress. And all the tributes should go to her for that. But Nellie Simm, a communist, was a deputy mayor on the Kearsley Shire. She stepped up and filled the casual mayor’s vacancy for a period. You could well argue that Nellie Simm predated Joy Cummings.”

    Brian added there had already been a “cosmic shift” in the Upper Hunter at the last state election away from the ALP to the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

    “There was no Shooters candidate standing at the federal election. My reading is, they’ve shifted from the Shooters to One Nation at the federal level.

    “They broke the nexus between identifying themselves as working people and the ALP. Having broken it, they haven’t returned. Now they’ve chucked their lot in with One Nation.”

  5. there is not one alp or union personality who isn’t a flat out gutless fraud. and albanese and mcmanus are key examples
    get immigration on the agenda you invertebrate skid marks or GAGF.
    do not tell me you’re looking out for the working class you capital fellating population booster haemorrhoids.
    I know you’re lying. the electorate knows you’re lying

  6. My wife received a letter from Doug Cameron/ALP 2 days before the election. To her it looks like ALP did a search of electoral rolls based on last names. She has a Vietnamese last name, however is from China (grandparents migrated here in the 60s). Both parents born in Australia and she is born in Australia. Can’t speak a word of Vietnamese and speaks next to no Chinese.

    The letter was written in Vietnamese, with a flyer showing Scomo, Dutton, Abbot with a Vietnamese slogan across it. The letter is promoting the proposed changes to the aged visa.

    I wonder if the ALP realise the hypocrisy of this? They have clearly racially profiled my wife based on her last name and gotten it wrong to boot. The letter stated the ALP is the party for immigrants (my wife isn’t an immigrant).

    • Brilliant! And this is after Ian McDonald was lambasted for facetiously asking whether Penny Wong was related to Xiangmo Huang. It wouldn’t surprise me if Penny Wong also received one of those letters, written in Chinese.

    • wow – scan it and send it to macro business to post. that is very interesting.

  7. Sally McImmigration is using union funds to actively campaign for programs/policies that will be to the detriment of members. If some of those folk were smarter she’d be in real trouble.

  8. one of a number of union officials and thought-leaders questioning whether the Australian Council of Trade Union’s estimated $25m spend on the election was worth it.

    Anyone who wonders whether spending $25M to not get the result they want is “worth it” isn’t a thought leader, they’re a stupid idiot.

    • HadronCollision

      Good use of members’ money…nnnot
      and they wonder why membership is declining
      I’d join the HSU if they hadn’t had that Fkknuckle extort lots (I mean what secretary is worth 350k a year) and they didn’t charge through the ring for it

    • “Thought-leader”. Now there’s an unintelligible, incomprehensible, completely non-specific job description.

  9. SweeperMEMBER

    This election is a nightmare.
    Now the ALP is going back to the right wing of Keating disasterism.
    Exactly the wrong lesson.
    The ALP primary vote began its secular decline under Hawke Keating from 50% when Hawke was elected down to 40% when Keating was thrown out. It has never recovered since, forcing the ALP to rely on minor party preferences and trying to get the small l liberal vote. Look at all other high income countries atm. The social democratic parties are moving left.
    Christ they need to return back to class politics. Albo is a terrible choice. This whole thing is terrible. Yet people are acting like it’s business as usual. House prices blah blah blah. No it’s not, the Overton window has shifted back to right with this disaster.
    It is one of those elections. Hawke 83, Chifley 1946 – shapes the next40 years. Terrible.

    • The only thing that will help save the ALP will be a recession under the Coalition’s watch.

      • DominicMEMBER


        To be clear: unemployment north of 12%, house prices in the gutter and buckets of free money promised to all.

    • The real problem is that they changed the rules, making it harder to replace a leader, not only in Government, but also in Opposition. Whoever gets chosen now will definitely lead the party into the next election, unless that leader voluntarily hands over to someone else.

      • You haven’t considered the concept of “being volunteered”. There’s the public faces of the ALP, and then there’s those who actually run the show, aka the “faceless men”. When it becomes necessary, I’m sure the FM could volunteer Albo into handing over the leadership to a selected person without too much trouble.

    • The 1st lesson should be “start formulating policies for the good of Australian citizens instead of mental masturbation about setting up a national gender centre, or making sure immigration is high because of racism, or bending over and dropping trou for the CCP”.

      • You should stand for leadership of the ALP mate. National Gender Centre, FFS.

  10. SweeperMEMBER

    Where is Albo pulling this stuff from.
    There is no evidence that fairness agenda is unpopular:
    – bank RC – popular
    – corporate tax cuts – unpopular
    – workchoices – unpopular
    – privatisation – unpopular

  11. Jevons ghostMEMBER

    Remind me again. What exactly is a “thought leader”? A creator of thought bubbles?

    • A thought leader is a self annointed title that consultants give to themselves in order to sell their advice to people who don’t know enough about the topic to avoid being taken for a ride.

    • DominicMEMBER

      A ‘thought leader’ is a creator of brain farts, just so we’re absolutely clear.

  12. GunnamattaMEMBER

    The backdrop to the election result and the current economic malaise of Australia’s body politic is that both sides of Australian politics have let go of a meaningful discussion of the economy. 

    They both want to discuss bits of the economy – who gets tax cuts, who gets concessions, how balanced the budget is, and what the implications of that are.  But they don’t want to discuss the far larger economic picture.  What makes up Australia as an economy, what does it do to earn its way in a global economy, what are the external variables in that, what are the domestic variables in that, and how do we best ‘improve’ those to create a society which is reasonably robust, earns the quality of life for its people those people want, and how well distributed are the proceeds of what it does, to ensure the people who are the citizens, labour and consumers of the nation believe that there is enough in the economy for them to commit to it?  Neither side of Australian politics goes there.  The Libs have just cleaned up the ALP (in full self-delusion mode) because the Libs have the game as long as the game is about part of the economic dynamic, and they are coming of having handed the nicest juiciest rorts to their vested interests.  Those vested interests will run the Franking credits and Negative Gearing message – and the ALP will invariably be cleaned up.  There needs to be the bigger picture. 

    In lieu of that bigger picture discussion we get all sorts of emotive trolling.  Are we lifters or leaners? When you really sit down and think about it what the fuck is a ‘fair go’ in any workplace, in any contract, or in any customer management sense?  And does that poor chick with two kids to two different fathers collecting social welfare every second week to eke out a living, have a lesser or greater claim to Australian economic redistribution than an elite professional family who have structured themselves to avoid paying as much tax as they can, salted away assets for their privately educated and tax deducted children, and will pay someone to make sure they get access to every last cent they think they are entitled to as they move into retirement?  Does ‘Have a go!’ for smaller employers mean a right to avoid paying superannuation, or backhanding wages, or taking a shortcut on safety, and do any ‘Get a go!’ when they do?  

    The emotion in the election campaign over issues such as franking credits, whether people earning more than 180k are battling or not, and whether negative gearing adds to real estate supply or affect rents and prices, or whether commonwealth funding for secondary education is biased away from government schools in favour of private education serves to shunt the narrative away from a discussion of the bigger economic picture. It avoids a discussion of whether any of those as policy positions make any investment or economic sense whatsoever.   

    Even better, if you want to avoid having that big picture discussion, the emotion generated tends to slip nicely into the stream leading to other emotive and entertaining  issues – the LGBT, the climate, the ABC, religion, the representation of women, refugees, Barnaby and his past and present Missus. Tony and Zali, the Member for Manila.  Part of our problem must surely be that unlike say the Hawke Keating era, where we went frivolous on a load of issues, but stayed pretty sombre on the economic ones, in 2019 it seems that if what we feel is as significant as what we think, how we feel about the economy is all we need to do. 

    That serves the Liberal (both the Australian political party and the general Neo – Liberalism which has dominated western democracy for a generation) agenda quite handsomely, because it brings the level of discussion down to the lived experience of every individual and their thoughts about that. Every individual is an expert on their own lived experience.  Even better, every individual is an expert on every subject as it is felt by them. A person might have all sorts of progressive thoughts vis tax reform or negative gearing per se, but if they are negatively gearing a place and think it’s the only break they will ever get, or they think they will be getting less out of a shake up of the tax system, or if they think there are other hidden taxation valleys far more deserving of reform, which way should they vote?  Even more, how should they vote vis reform if they think that our politicians are, as a class, on the take, keen to use up a taxpayer funded entitlement, or lining themselves up a nice little post politics earner?

    That is where we are in Australia in 2019.  For the most part – and this was my experience of the election – we tend not to trust any of them when it comes to politics.  We don’t trust our politicians to do anything competently let alone altruistically in the best interests of the nation, and if they are being competent we assume they are being competent in their own interests first.  We, if we are getting anything at all out of the government, don’t want to give it up for a group of people to reallocate in the national interest, when we don’t think they will actually do that.  Once we have ceded that the discussion comes back to individual feelings about what they are getting.  The pension, the right to a pension after minimising tax payments over a lifetime, the Family Tax Benefit, the discount for cash, a tax write off for business costs, tools or equipment that happens to pay most of a household energy or phone bill, or lots of furniture.  It becomes an exercise in how an individual feels about defending what they are getting, and leaving the interests of anyone else for anyone else to deal with – as long as it isn’t cutting into their take.

    For the ALP this creates an immense problem.  They came out with a policy canvas which featured a couple of big brush strokes (lets call them negative gearing and franking credits reform) – which they pitched as reforms for ‘fairness’ and didn’t really present in the context of the wider economy.  They were pitching to an Australia which probably told every pollster who ever asked them that they thought negative gearing was an insane misallocation of public funds to promote loss making housing speculation, or that giving government payments to non-tax paying pensioners on the basis of tax they haven’t paid by companies they have shares in is money for jam for those with money to begin with.  But they were also pitching to an Australia which rightly sees the ALP essentially indistinguishable from the Liberals.  Has there been any real difference between the ALP or LNP commitment to Free Trade Agreements which reconcentrate the economy around commodity exports, and spakfill demand gap with debt and an icing of immigration to keep the GDP graphs sweet.  Has either side of mainstream politics articulated how they see the economy evolving and how they best position Australia for the future – let alone carry through the implications?  They have both slept through the need to look at the banking sector. 

    The people of Australia look at both sides of mainstream politics and see the ALP and LNP delivering pretty much the same thing at the macro level, yet the ALP was trying to bring about change at a subset of that for the last campaign without really trying to explain why (which involves the bigger picture and requires explanation of the bigger picture), and while offending the recipients of two of the most spectacular rorts – who were loud about the ‘unfairness’ being visited upon them, with their claims about that getting traction simply because nobody wanted to go into the bigger picture.

    I tend to the view that the only way we get meaningful change from here is when the status quo becomes so trimmed that it cannot sustain all the current entitled vested interests, and they are playing off against each other.  That involves economic implosion – which may not be all that far, but for sure will see us with full blown Population Ponzi and full blown last drinks of the milky wilkies for those receiving them, and the sections of Australian society being discriminated against – any PAYE taxpayer, anyone under the age of maybe 55, anyone with an interest in what their kids will do in 15–20 years time, anyone wondering if it really is in their interest to lever up into Australian housing, etc etc etc – take up the cudgels and start seriously tearing Australian politics apart limb by screaming limb…….because neither the ALP or LNP is ever going to deliver anything other than what we have been served as government for the last 4 terms.

    • SweeperMEMBER

      If you agree that there is a big inequality problem in this country there are only 3 ways to fix it:
      – redistribution via the tax system
      – redistribution via wage fixing/ reunionisation
      – redistribution via government control over certain industries.

      The electorate is not ready for 2 & 3 so it had to be 1.
      Now 1 is off the table so it is a return to the “growth agenda” of Keating meaning trickle down. This is why this election is so bad. The message and effect it will have on Labor’s agenda.

      • GunnamattaMEMBER

        Well they didnt get far with number 1.

        And while Keating didnt help last campaign with his Dutton and Security services comments the ALP desperately needs his ability to explain economic reform against a macro backdrop.

        And while there have no doubt been downsides since he left the lodge what he did do while Treasurer and PM – despite the fact i agree it was/is based on trickle down – was buy the economy 10-15 years, which stretched to 25 with a debt surge and mining boom.

        I dont think the Liberals are a hope in hell of buying another 15 years. If it is is to be the ALP it will require the macro – and explaining that the Population Ponzi is just another economic painkiller we have become addicted to. The Liberals have far more in common with the local dealer and will always cream the ALP when it comes to giving out hits. The ALP needs to explain economi health and a fair bit of irritability as we all go cold turkey.

    • Ronin8317MEMBER

      All true. None of the major political parties have an energy policy, which indicates they have no interest in governing the country.

      • GunnamattaMEMBER

        They are both tied to a policy framework which has as a centrepiece…..

        Australia having the most expensive employees on the planet
        Australia having the most expensive land on the planet
        Australia having the most expensive energy on the planet
        Australia having the worst private debt on the planet

        Which all adds up to Australia having about the worst investment case for anything on the planet

        Which may be plausible but ultimately means Australia will rely on solely the macro provided by coal iron ore gas and some gold. That uses about 2% of Australians.

        So that brings us back to why we would want more people.

  13. The ALP is complaining that Clive spent $60 million on advertising.

    $60m buys Clive nothing but costs ALP dearly

    In some polling booths in the Townsville-based seat of Herbert — one of two the LNP picked up — 90 per cent of the preferences of Mr Palmer’s United Australia Party flowed to the LNP

    How is that different to the ALP being funded by Anthony Pratt and the pharmacies?

    The brainless ALP needs to get the AEC to adequately fund the political parties.

  14. CanuckDownUnder

    The ALP will learn nothing from this, nor will their declining supporter base. My left-leaning friends are already bemoaning the fact that, and I doubt this will get past the mod filter, so let’s just say the frontrunners for the new leader are all a particular gender and a particular skin tone.

    • The scales have fallen from my eyes. What the ALP needs to ensure electoral success is a female Muslim Somali immigrant leader… like whatsername…that Magrieb woman who was such a successful public figure. That’ll fix thing.

    • HadronCollision

      I honestly don’t care what sex or skin colour or religion someone is (as long as they keep a lid on their God-iness unlike ScoMos pretend keeping a lid on it) – just have good fecking policy and communicate it in the the Queen’s fecking English without weasel words.

      That WILL fix thing

      • Agreed, immigration fundies are going to have to start speaking in plain English.

    • BubbleyMEMBER

      I don’t know about “learning nothing” from it.

      They are an incoherent mess, they don’t stand for anything and don’t make any sense – just like the LNP

      If the 2019 election is anything to go by, all they have to do is have zero policies and rag on the LNP and they will win in 2022.

  15. I’ve seen a lot of smoke being blown by Guardianista types on social media. According to them the real reason that Labor lost the election is pretty much because the punters of the country are a bunch of stupid cnuts. Call me crazy, but I suspect that if the ALP and others go around shouting in the media that people are stupid cnuts for not voting for the ALP then people will continue to not vote for the ALP. The ALP and their mates will probably do that though, because it’s a lot easier than admitting to a galactic scale Fcukup.

    • Liberal voters are apparently “truculent turds”. You can write that on Twitter, get a really negative response and follow up with your own SMH article bemoaning the inability of people to engage in civil discourse over political differences.

    • HadronCollision

      Me live in country on land
      Me own guns
      So me dumb and hayseed
      Also me engineer on good wage
      Me want social justice issues dealt with, me want Fed ICAC and AGW action, me want economy run well and nationalised gas or domestic reservation


    • BubbleyMEMBER

      “They are going to take away my franking credits!”

      “But Gran, you don’t have any shares or any money to buy them”

      “I don’t care! I still don’t want to lose them!”

    • DominicMEMBER

      Yes, and Hillary lost to Trump because the Russians swayed the vote his way — nearly two years on and they’re still harping on about it. No introspection likely any time soon.

      • 🙂 guess you are being sardonic.

        Now Trump & the Republicans are cleared of any ‘Russian conspiracy’ (collusion isn’t a crime btw) or any ‘obstruction’ it’s getting interesting.

        The fake Russian conspiracy & attempted coup d’état, & even our own little Clintonista Alexander Downer in the slow drip of FISA warrants & and unravelling of the politically weaponised intelligence agencies & DOJ.

        ‘The Charge List’ so far.

        🔹John Brennan, Obama CIA Director and the ringmaster of the fake Russian narrative. The searing image will be Brennan in an orange jumpsuit & shackles in the dock, timed for the 2020 election run-up. A Colonel Jessup figure who will quickly fold as they go him for sedition, subversion & an attempted coup d’état.

        🔻Obama, who authorized the fake Russian Narrative – covertly in March 2016 and by secret order in April 2016.

        🔻Hillary Clinton, who funded it.

        🔻Glen Simpson & Mary Jacoby, Robert Otto & John Williams who architected it. April 10th 2016.

        🔻Comey, the 6’8”” yellow streak of perjury & cowardice, craven to Brennan & allowed the FBI to be complicit.
        🔻Ohr & wife.

        🔹The foreign agents & spies.
        🔻UK Mi6 & the Italians.
        🔻Ukraine & Estonian secret service
        🔻Steele & Fusion GPS / Simpson
        🔻Sergei Millian (Source D)
        🔻and our own little Alexander Downer Aust UK HC who is now under investigation for the Brennan Halper Mifsud – Papadopolous frameup.

        🔹The complicit US media will get hammered.
        🔻Bezos & Washington Post – John Brennan Deal
        🔻NyT on just silly bias
        🔻CNN has failed / lowest rankings ever
        🔻Buzzfeed – Washington feed lies & smear leaks
        🔻Facebook – Zuckerberg / bias / profiling
        🔻Google in a slap on the wrist for ’politized’ search omission, filtering & reranking.

      • DominicMEMBER

        The list is quite staggering and goes to show what a freak show Washington has become and what a sham democracy truly is. Washington is little more than a group of sociopaths duking it out in a series of power-plays and the tactics are as dirty as your imagination will extend to. Governments everywhere, but especially there just need a top-to-bottom clear out and a new start.

        “Drain the swamp”. Nice thought but will not happen until the current fiat money system collapses.

  16. “And does that poor chick with two kids to two different fathers collecting social welfare every second week to eke out a living, have a lesser or greater claim to Australian economic redistribution than an elite professional family who have structured themselves to avoid paying as much tax as they can, salted away assets for their privately educated and tax deducted children, and will pay someone to make sure they get access to every last cent they think they are entitled to as they move into retirement?”
    Both are parasites, albeit different types of parasites.
    The PAYE Tax Payers are the chumps stuck in the middle.

  17. HadronCollision

    Christ on a stick

    There are common interests that are there

    And to this

    But I humbly suggest that the reality of Labor’s 2 million aged Chinese visas was more a problem than a death tax lie.

    I don’t suppose we have any way of knowing, do we, given this policy had almost zero, sorry, virtually zero, media oxygen.

    • DominicMEMBER

      I agree. I can’t recall it being discussed anywhere outside of this blog. I’m wondering now if it was in fact an actual policy

  18. “unions and employers have a common interest”

    Too right Albo! Their common interest is mass immigration.

    How about considering the interests of the next generations of Australia?? And that the majority of the people of Australia are opposed to high immigration??

    Utterly out of touch.