Turnbull Government to outsource immigration ponzi

By Leith van Onselen

The Turnbull Government clearly has no interest in managing Australia’s borders, nor reining-in Australia’s brake-neck population growth, with the Department of Immigration set to hand over administration of Australia’s visa system to private operators. From Proud to be Public, which is running a petition against the outsourcing:

The Turnbull Government wants to privatise our immigration call centres by handing over the work to private, for profit multinational Datacom.

This is only the beginning – the Turnbull Government has announced that next they intend to privatise the entire Visa processing system. This would see a private company given a licence to run our Visa system as a for-profit business! This privatisation threatens the jobs of up to 3,000 hardworking public servants.

Our call centres deal with important work including applying for a visas, sponsoring a partner, or importing goods.

The Department of Immigration and Border Protection staff who are currently performing work are highly trained and committed to serving the national interest. They deal with highly secure information and are monitored and accountable to the Australian Parliament and people. They do not work for profit, they work for the Australian people.

Privatising this work will put all of this at risk.

If the Turnbull Government gets their way, people calling the immigration line will be talking to a for-profit privatised call centre run by multinational Datacom instead of highly trained staff from the Department of Immigration and Border Protection.

Around 250 people could lose their jobs if the privatisation of the call centre goes ahead, with up to 3,000 more jobs at risk if they go ahead with the privatisation of visa processing. Sign here to tell the Turnbull Government to keep our immigration and border protection system in public hands.

You can sign the petition here.

So after witnessing widespread rorting of Australia’s vocational education and training system by private operators, as well as widespread visa rorting by companies, amid vast segments of Australian business deploying wage crushing strategies and a developing crisis in household income, the government now wants to hand administration of Australia’s visa/migration system over to the private sector?

What could possibly go wrong? The Government has clearly jumped the shark on immigration.

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Comments

  1. to tie the decision making processes in our immigration system to foreigners is a disaster waiting to happen. the ONLY people who should be allowed to work for the department of immigration are certified australian patriots, who have psychologically demonstrated themselves to care about the future of this country. basically we need people like mike & jacob running our immigration system, not soft-touch college graduates or dodgy business types.

  2. OTOH, cutting muslim and afro-gang immigration could be done behind private doors out of view of bleeding heart lefty SJWs that currently infest the public service, sucking on the public teat.
    If it means the whole immigration department gets sacked, i’m all for that.
    Dealing with the downside of a privatized immigration dept can be dealt with later.
    The system first needs to be broken (utterly destroyed) before rebuilding.

    • Stewie GriffinMEMBER

      That could be dealt with by holding a RC into our immigration process and the incestuous relationship between private immigration agents, their favorite public servants and the corporations who are making the most use of the visa abuses.

    • So high rise Harry Triguboff can bribe them to let in more foreigners. He’s whinging in today’s AFR:

      “Many of the Chinese can’t settle. So now we have to resell them – there is another problem.

      “And everyone thought that the Australian buyer would come in – they haven’t – I knew they wouldn’t – it wouldn’t make any sense if they did.”

      Financial Review Rich Lister Tim Gurner also weighed in to the issue.

      “There is no question the banks and government are pushing away foreign investors, which in turn will have a huge effect on Australian housing affordability as supply dries up significantly and demand continues to rise,” he said.

      “Its the perfect recipe for another big run on house prices.”

      “It’s not bad, it’s very bad,” Mr Triguboff told The Australian Financial Review on Wednesday.

      https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://www.afr.com/real-estate/its-very-bad-says-harry-triguboff-as-foreign-buyer-demand-falls-20180109-h0fyyw

      • ”There is no question the banks and government are pushing away foreign investors, which in turn will have a huge effect on Australian housing affordability as supply dries up significantly and demand continues to rise,” he said.

        Pushing away buyers means demand will rise now? Is this something new in economics since I went to uni?

  3. The ALP did the same with the NBN – it was declared to be a company rather than a government department and thus entry level jobs in the NBN are given to 3rd world passport holders! Disgusting.

    Sarah Hanson Young was on Sky News saying “create more jobs”. But what is the point of that when 99% of the new jobs created in the last 10 years were given to foreigners?

    While the LNP love privatising everything, the ALP does not have the spine to buy anything back. Nor do they have the brains to charge $50k/year for each work visas instead of having a bloody occupation list. As David Leyonhjelm says, “how could a politician know about every single occupation?”.

    Martin Ward migrated from the UK in 2012 as a floor finisher – but it’s an occupation that no longer makes the cut

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/31/nothing-to-go-back-for-when-the-457-visa-changes-lives-will-change-too

    The occupation should have never been on the list. There should be no list but a simple $1000/week tax on each work visa!

      • Stephen, charging $52k upfront for each work visa is “not enforceable”? That is like saying “charging hundreds of dollars for an air ticket is not enforceable”.

    • As David Leyonhjelm says, “how could a politician know about every single occupation?”.

      I’m always amused at how people who try to tell us Government should be run like a business, apparently think businesses are run without direction or strategy.

      • drsmithy, houses are sold to the highest bidder – with no regard for the occupation of the buyer.

        Are you saying that houses should instead be sold to people who claim to be working in certain occupations? Even if a guy claims to be working as a project manager, how do we know that he is?

        The current system of giving out 457 visas by having an occupation list is insane. What we all know is, 3rd world males come here to work for illegal wages.

      • Are you saying that houses should instead be sold to people who claim to be working in certain occupations?

        No.

        The current system of giving out 457 visas by having an occupation list is insane.

        Indeed. How utterly crazy to try and actually govern the country with some sort of direction, strategy, goals or benchmarks. As dumb as trying to run a business in that fashion. I mean, the idea that boards of directors and senior management should have some idea of market opportunities, competitors’ weaknesses and customer desires, or set revenue and marketshare targetsthen, then manage the company based on that ? Lunacy !

  4. reusachtigeMEMBER

    I think that immigration, like all services, would be better run via a private operator as they will always operate to maximise profits and that is the free and capitalist way – proven to be the most successful system besides the chinamen’s own version. Those willing to pay their way should always get in!

      • proofreadersMEMBER

        MB’s pleadings on reducing immigration would seem to be “dead, buried and cremated”, because if the government privatises aspects of the visa system it is going to have to effectively guarantee the private sector operator a large and growing customer base.

        Also, once the system is privatised by the LNP, Labor will likewise have an excuse to keep the immigration floodgates open.

    • it’s the same in most of the middle east and is working effectively. The government will set the quota of PR and Skilled Visa grants and the private operators will assess the application against existing migration regulations applications. Any fraud can be managed through (yet to be devloped) fraud control screenings.

      • brian560, Middle Eastern nations do not give out passports to foreign-born people unless they have been living in Dubai/Riyadh/Kuwait/Muscat for 10 years. David Leyonhjelm said in a YouTube interview that Switzerland only gives out passports after 9 years.

        The ALP gave Aussie passports to burger flippers and bus drivers in just 4 years. Disgusting.

  5. What is wrong with letting everyone into Australia?! They then need to buy a house or rent as well as pay for goods and services. Australia should allow entry to anyone who wants to be here, as long as we have adequate infrastructure, low crime, and high liveability/livability rate!!.

    • Yeah and that’s the problem, I don’t mind higher immigration only if it’s done properly, and what they’re doing now is not properly. We need to build some Bali style prisons and have tough penalties for crime like the rest of asia has. Look how recent immigrations working out in Melbourne! Until the govt gets properly tough on crime which they never will, i don’t want no third world scum coming to my city and country raping our girls and tormenting the public with violent crimes while getting away with it. I blame the govt not the perpetrators for this

    • The main problem is that the new arrivals immediately require the full complement of infrastructure up front, which is running at about $100,000 per person, according to Jane O’Sullivan, who has written extensively on these issues. This is just for public infrastructure. If your electricity utility raises rates to pay for more poles and wires, you pay for it too. Assuming that infrastructure has an average lifespan of 50 years, then a country with a stable population would need to spend every year around 2% of the cost of building the infrastructure in the first place, just to keep up. If your population is growing at 2%, then what you have to spend doubles. It is actually worse here, because all the development is in a few big cities, and retrofitting infrastructure in built up areas is very expensive. The politicians are letting the infrastructure deteriorate because it would be politically impossible to raise taxes sufficiently on existing residents, who, after all, are not going to see any improvement.

      This doesn’t even consider loss of amenity through overcrowding and congestion, pressure on the environment, or dilution of our natural resource base.

      • SchillersMEMBER

        Beautifully articulated Tania and spot on. The running down of public infrastructure on a per capita basis has been happening for years. It’s an absolute disgrace. On any metric, politicians of all persuasions at all levels of government have failed to deliver the key infrastructure necessary to keep up with rampant population growth, due primarily to a rapid mass migration program that is wilful, culpable and bordering on the insane.
        Yet listen to them crow about how many more $ they are spending in this area and that area. And the pathetic mainstream press (especially the ABC) just let them get away with it, unchallenged and not held to account.

  6. proofreadersMEMBER

    MB’s pleadings on reducing immigration would seem to be “dead, buried and cremated”, because if the government privatises aspects of the visa system it is going to have to effectively guarantee the private sector operator a large and growing customer base.
    Also, once the system is privatised by the LNP, Labor will likewise have an excuse to keep the immigration floodgates open.

  7. Yes and no. Call centre is not really an issue.
    The question becomes legal decision making and integrity – ie do non APS staff working in a private setting effectively have the delegation?

    Further, most visas are tourist/ETA visas which are already largely automated so no real change there. Not a fan at all of this move however, there’s a slew of bureaucracies we can get rid of but immigration should be one of the few that should not be touched.

  8. And then we will find out Indians working in the call centre have been giving preferential treatment to Indians wanting to migrate to Australia. But probably not through an ABC / The Age joint expose.

  9. St JacquesMEMBER

    And here I was thinking that border control was a core government function….apparently not.

    The LNP incentivising corruption – with great Australian patriots like that, who needs enemies?

  10. St JacquesMEMBER

    Just think of the massive creative potential for rorting the system at corporate, managerial and even worker level. Now this is the sort of innovation we lead the world in..

  11. Quick check of the 7 deadly sins of outsourcing and I’m under no illusion that after past performances, all 7 have not merely been broken, they’ve been fckn smashed.

  12. I don’t need no arms around me
    And I don’t need no drugs to calm me
    I have seen the writing on the wall
    Don’t think I’ll need anything at all
    No, don’t think I’ll need anything at all
    All in all it was all just bricks in the wall
    All in all you were all just bricks in the wall

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